₦airaland Forum

7lives:
orishirishi, Atletico Madrid have toiled all these years without winning champions league, let UEFA dash them the trophy.
Does this makes any sense?, NO.
Politics is a game, let Igbos learn to play.

Your analogy doesn't fit.

Nchenches:
Yoruba hated PDP to the bone and had ACN as Yoruba party when Nigeria agreed to two Yorubas to take the presidential ticket of the two other major political parties in 1999.

You are a poor student of history. Go and sleep.

PDP was how many years old in 1999? Our democracy was even still in kindergarten as at then. The same democracy has matured now, and can't be gamed to fit the whims and caprices of poor political players like igbos. If you guys want the presidency so bad, then hold pdp in the scrotum - since that's the only party that is close to the heart of your region. Apc won't give its party ticket to an igbo man. You can stake your bet if you doubt this.

Misterdhee1:
PDP was how many years old in 1999? Our democracy was even still in kindergarten as at then. The same democracy has matured now, and can't be gamed to fit the whims and caprices of poor political players like igbos. If you guys want the presidency so bad, then hold pdp in the scrotum - since that's the only party that is close to the heart of your region. Apc won't give its party ticket to an igbo man. You can stake your bet if you doubt this.

History of rotation of presidency is why you talk about a Southern Nigerian - Yoruba - to succeed PMB. Not because more Yoruba voted for APC than Igbo in presidential elections.

History influences today and the future.
History of political leadership of Nigeria influenced our acquiescing to two Yorubas taking the tickets of the two major political parties in 1999. That’s rotation of the presidency between north and south.


That same history is what you want to throw away because you believe Yoruba is entitled to presidency for the 2nd time before the Igbo.

You are a nobody as you want to drop history and speak authoritatively like APC Spokesman. Area Boys political calculator.

CaptainMitch:
Okwadike my man, you have said the truth.

Presidency cant goto the Ogwo ego people, forget it.

7lives:
National security, yeye dey smell who are you threatening?.
You can't work for GT and collect salary at access, e no go ever happen.

. OK

Nchenches:
History of rotation of presidency is why you talk about a Southern Nigerian - Yoruba - to succeed PMB. Not because more Yoruba voted for APC than Igbo in presidential elections.

History influences today and the future.
History of political leadership of Nigeria influenced our acquiescing to two Yorubas taking the tickets of the two major political parties in 1999. That’s rotation of the presidency between north and south.


That same history is what you want to throw away because you believe Yoruba is entitled to presidency for the 2nd time before the Igbo.

You are a nobody as you want to drop history and speak authoritatively like APC Spokesman. Area Boys political calculator.

Igbos don't have stake in APC. Make Una drag PDP for una birthright. You only reap where you sow - that's Politics 101. Don't worry, Nigerians are willing to vote for you. But never in APC.

delusional people

Nchenches:
What was in a name - Groups of Provinces and Regions - when the regional governments still functioned in the name of Groups of Provinces when Ironsi was killed?

Why even take powers from the regions at all in the first instance? Was the public complaining of too much concentration of powers at the regions? Contrary to your assertion, the regional governments no longer functioned as before when Ironsi had centralized the civil service. In secondary school Government textbooks it is clearly stated that the civil service is the only means by which any government operates in totality. A government generates revenue, collect taxes, deploys same to carry out projects, pay salaries and carry out all other statutory functions through its civil service. In short the civil service is the engine room of any government, so by centralizing the regional civil services Ironsi simply paralyzed the regional governments. It is like your mechanic removing the engine of your car in the process of repair, and just because he left the body intact you agree with him that he didn't destroy the car hence you accept it back from him. Imagine the Anambra State civil servants directed to now start reporting to Abuja henceforth. How will Obiano be able to run any government in Anambra State anymore under such a scenario?

Nchenches:
Truth is that Ironsi only took some little powers from the new Group of Provinces to the central government to forestall imminent break up of Nigeria then?

And you have still refused to answer the question of how the previous regional arrangement was a basis for disintegration. If anything, it was Ironsi's centralization of powers that sparked off agitations for disintegration as people began to fear that the entrenchment of the long suspected Igbo domination agenda was going to be officially implemented through the Unification and Anti-secession Decrees of Ironsi. Did the North ever talk of Araba Republic before Ironsi centralized the civil service?

Nchenches:
Regional governments still remained in the name of Groups of Provinces and functioned like regional governments when Ironsi was killed. Only little powers were taken by Ironsi from the regions he renamed groups of provinces.

You mean Ironsi made decrees and didn't implement them? Funny. How could regional governments which had lost power and control over their civil service institutions be said to have continued functioning as they did initially? Moreover, unlike the governors of the groups of provinces who were reporting to Ironsi at the center, the regional premiers were autonomous and didn't report to Balewa while the genuinely regional structure lasted.

Nchenches:
Call for restructuring: the present political structure of Nigeria was created by northern military dictators who wrongly used land mass as yardstick and proliferated too many states in the north, 19 states and Abuja; but left 17 states in the two southern regions.

And I guess the Ironsi who introduced military rule in the first instance was himself not a military dictator, right? Who and who did he consult before he began to make his anti-people decrees? Weren't his decrees as autocratic and dictatorial as the ones of his Northern successors? What parameters did Ironsi himself use to create his provinces if not the same landmass? The states you currently have are actually a reflection of the boundaries of Ironsi's provinces. Come to think of it, Ironsi created 35 provinces and we now have 36 states. Doesn't that tell you that those Northern military guys almost entirely followed Ironsi's template in creating their states?
Under civil rule we had three regions in the South and just one in the North, but the coming of the military ended up tilting the balance in favour of the North which now has 19 states against the South's 17. Now, who in the first instance introduced that military rule which caused all this?

Nchenches:
The political structure gives northern politicians undue overwhelming majority at the central government of Nigeria, including the Federal Executive Council, the Armed forces, the National Assembly, the National Council of States, and in fact, in every department of Nigeria’s political and economic development process. To have fair play for all the formative three regions that formed Nigeria at independence is part of the reasons for calls for political restructuring from the two southern regions, now called three zones.

Like I already said, had Ironsi never brought the military into power and politics, all these wouldn't have ever happened. May I ask you why Ironsi felt he alone had the solution to Nigeria's 'problem' hence refused to swear in the Dipcharima who was the democratically nominated replacement for Balewa? That was the beginning of all the structural problems you now complain of today.

Nchenches:
If you don’t know that north was asking for “Araba” - north separating from Nigeria when problems erupted in the southwest region, go ask your elders. That’s why Ironsi tinkered with taking powers from the regional governments to save Nigeria from disintegration.

It seems you enjoy rewriting history. Problem erupted in the Southwest from 1962 to 1965 under Balewa government while the North's demand for Araba began in 1966 during Ironsi's rule. In fact Araba agitation was sparked off by Ironsi's tamper with the constitution and not the other way round as you try to paint it. Go and study your history very well.

Nchenches:
Most of the senior army officers of Nigeria’s armed forces were Igbos when the 1966 military coup took place. Did you not expect most of the senior army officers to be from the north or SW? The coup was collectively planned and executed by senior army officers from all major ethnic groups in Nigeria, the Igbo was majority in the armed forces, so as expected, the senior officers in the coup should be Igbo.

The coup is dubbed an Igbo coup not because of the ethnic composition of the participants but by the ethnic pattern of the casualty. How come no Igbo politician was killed? Or were the allegedly existing and corrupt political heavyweights then only from the North, West and Midwest? Were the Igbo politicians of those times saints hence free of the alleged corruption and misgovernance?
Why were Azikiwe, Okpara, Mbadiwe, etc spared unlike their Northern, Western and Midwestern counterparts? Those in the coupists hit list that escaped being actually hit were all Igbos. Why? And you call that a pan-Nigeria coup?

Nchenches:
The coup was also foiled by Igbo army officers.

Foiling of a coup means to prevent the coup from achieving its aim of having soldiers take over government. How did Ironsi's foiling of the coup prevent military take over of government? If anything, Ironsi's so-called foiling of the coup ended up producing exactly the same outcome (military take over of power) as the Nzeogwu/Ifeajuna coup would have done, so what difference did it make? A thief robbed you of your money at gun point, and on his way away a second thief waylaid him, collected the money from him and went with it. Then you the original victim begin to celebrate the second theif for foiling the robbery attack on you when the second thief didn't return the money to you. That is how this defense of Ironsi foiling the coup looks like.
In fact a school of thought argues that an Nzeogwu military rule would have been better for Nigeria than the Ironsi's military rule since Nzeogwu and co never planned to tamper with the Independence Constitution the way Ironsi did. Secondly, an honest Nzeogwu in power would have later found ways to balance up by arresting and killing Azikiwe, Okpara and Osadebey hence putting paid to the Igbo coup perception thus forestalling the revenge coup and the unfortunate civil war which it all
later culminated in.

Jonathan39:
Abia state is the only state in South East Ekiti and Osun state is from America

Ekiti and Osun state are like America when compared to Abia state in term of infrastructure.

Let's do this then. Bring up the infrastructures in Ekiti and Osun let's see

Smartwave:
Ekiti and Osun state are like America when compared to Abia state in term of infrastructure.

LegendHero:
Exactly. They won’t even vote APC to start with if both parties present an Igbo aspirant. So what will be the gain of the people that built APC.

Seun might have his own opinion about this maybe from political correctness, but reality and the pattern of play shows that the SE deserves no preferential treatment in APC for any ticket.

Seun is far more logical, intelligent, unbiased and foresighted than you and the person you quoted!
In a presidential election, it wouldn't matter in the long run who the Igbos or SE decide to vote for. No particular region can ever make a president to win, it is the collective wish of the 6 regions that matters. In 1999, there was a behind-the-scene agreement for the two major parties to present Yoruba candidates so that heads or tails, a Yoruba man will emerge. It was done to placate the region over the injustice that was meted out on Abiola. It is even interesting to note that while majority of Yorubas wanted and voted for Olu Falae of AD, other Nigerians mostly voted for Olusegun Obasanjo of PDP and he won!

So even if we are to go by your irrational logic, and Igbos decide to vote for PDP overwhelmingly, you and other Nigerians can still vote for APC and the APC candidate will still win based on total majority.

The way some of you argue senselessly often makes me to wonder if it's kids talking or just people acting mischievously.

Only an Igbo man occupying Aso rock in 2023 will stabilize Nigeria and anyone who really believe in this country will support it.

BastardWike:
Seun is far more logical, intelligent, unbiased and foresighted than you and the person you quoted!
In a presidential election, it wouldn't matter in the long run who the Igbos or SE decide to vote for. No particular region can ever make a president to win, it is the collective wish of the 6 regions that matters. In 1999, there was a behind-the-scene agreement for the two major parties to present Yoruba candidates so that heads or tails, a Yoruba man will emerge. It was done to placate the region over the injustice that was meted out on Abiola. It is even interesting to note that while majority of Yorubas wanted and voted for Olu Falae of AD, other Nigerians mostly voted for Olusegun Obasanjo of PDP and he won!

So even if we are to go by your irrational logic, and Igbos decide to vote for PDP overwhelmingly, you and other Nigerians can still vote for APC and the APC candidate will still win based on total majority.

The way some of you argue senselessly often makes me to wonder if it's kids talking or just people acting mischievously.

Only an Igbo man occupying Aso rock in 2023 will stabilize Nigeria and anyone who really believe in this country will support it.

@the bolded, Behind the scene agreement by which tribe or zone? Are the Igbos included?. Not all region came together for a behind the scene agreement to bring a Yoruba candidate to rule, it is only the NORTH.

Most of you on Nairaland don’t know jack about your history and that is why ignorance abound on this forum.

I will lecture you once and I will ask you a question at the end.

—After the death of Abacha, Abdulsalam allowed parties to contest elections

—The parties were not yet fully certified, he said they must win a certain part of their constituents to be certified, so they used the local government election of Dec 5th 1998 as the test.

—9 parties contested in the local government elections but only 3 parties performed well. They were AD, APP, and PDP. Hence Abdulsalam only allowed full registration of these three parties for the presidential elections of 1999.

—However there is an agreement between all parties that the presidential ticket by all parties will be zone to the SOUTH (SW + SE + SS).

—PDP had the largest might and the biggest party, they did their presidential primaries. Below are the candidates and their share of the delegates:
-OLUSEGUN OBASANJO 67.98%
-ALEX EKWUEME 21.36%
-DON ETIEBET 4.35%
-GRAHAM DOUGLAS 2.91%
-JIM NWOBODO 2.42%
-PHILIP ASIODU 0.49%
-FRANCIS ELLAH 0.49%

@the above, the reason Obasanjo won is because all the military guys supported him and they spend nothing less than 50k each on delegates on the Election Day. Also, the Northerners supported OBJ like their own, and all the Governor-elect of the PDP in the North stood with him. Yar’Adua boys like Atiku, Dr. Iyorchia, Jerry Gana, and Alh. Yahaya Kwande controlled OBJ campaign.

Do you see the votes of Ekwueme? Can you see the Igbos contested against OBJ in PDP primaries? Infact, after OBJ won the primaries, Ohaneze then threatened that the Igbos will go and vote the other party in the presidential election instead of PDP as a protest against PDP presenting OBJ.

The NORTH and Military made OBJ and not the Ibos. Fact!

—For the APP presidential primaries, below is the result:
-Olusola Saraki
-Gamaliel Onosode
-Emmanuel Iwuanyanwu
-Ogbonnaya Onu
And etc.

Onu won the ticket. Olusola Saraki was told to step down because it was already zoned to the South and because he’s from Kwara (North), they prevailed on him to step down. So Onu will be the one to lead the alliance with the AD.

—For the AD primaries, you have the likes of Bola Ige, Falae and etc. Then Falae won the primaries.

—Now the APP and AD agreed to form an alliance to fight the PDP and Falae won the nomination where they agree to share the government positron if elected in like 70% for the APP and 30% for the AD since the president is AD.

You might ask me what is the strength of the APP, but know they won 9 governorship position in the 1999 elections all in the North while AD only had 6 governorship position in the SW.

——Verdict: The Northerners were still the one that gave the Yorubas the chance for the AD/APP ticket.

Questions:
In all this, do you think the Yorubas owe the SE any favor on 2023 such that they will need to give the presidential ticket to them free of charge in APC?

The only way for the Igbos to win that ticket is to lobby the North. If the North can support them with their delegates, then they will have the hope to win.

Seun might have forgotten this history or he might not know about it. Hence, he might try to be politically correct like other liberal Yorubas that have been hypnotized by the constant appeal to “Its our time” the Ibos always play. Bro, you have never supported the Yorubas in anything all through your history, and hence we are not under any duty either to man or to God, to reciprocate anything to you guys.

There is an advantage of being a majority tribe, you can form your own country!

PDP making an Igbo man their presidential candidate does not automatically translate to being the president come 2023 but APC and PDP doing it makes it certain. It's simple logic you refused to get. When you want to solve equity and justice issue, you go all out to solve it!

omenka:
What do you mean by this? What about an Igede or a Tiv or an Idoma man becoming the president?

What makes you think Igbos have more right to become the president than anyone else? What makes you think it is JUST for an Igbo man to be the president and UNJUST for an Igede man to be same?

People reap where they invest, Igbos invested heavily and are still investing in pdp, shown clearly even by their comments here. The most JUST thing that could happen is for pdp to hand them their ticket. Is that too much to ask?

Funny how some of you understand politics.

When it's the turn of Igbos you want good governance. Why didn't you tell the North that has been insisting on power forever and failing to provide good governance?

Sleekfingers:
you be correct person......all these ethnic politics we are playing aint gonna move this country forward......all i want is good governance.....and that is what we should be asking for.........but no, we just keep on playing ethnic politics......we got a long way to go .........

Instead of voting for a competent man, you're basing your voting decision on who will not divide Nigeria. Your utmost concern is the invisibility of Nigeria, what are you gaining from one Nigeria? Do you really love all Nigerians irrespective of tribe? Why do you wanna be with people you don't love?

So if Peter Obi is in ballot with Okorocha, you would pick the incompetent Okorocha?

Btw, what makes you think a president has the power to divide the country?

fk001:
I support this, only Rochas is worthy of my gote from the East and I just speak the mind of 90% of northerners.

I worked with Rochas, and I still do time to time here in Abuja, he Is the most detribalized igbo on earth. In his office at Unity house Abuja he employed his staff based on credibility regardless of tribe or religion.


I know his people will not vote for him, but I am definitely sure he will have Northern block votes and Some votes from SW.

You dont get it? We are not talking of Igbo presidential candidate, we are talking of Igbo presidency! This goes beyond PDP only!

juman:
PDP should readily give igbo the presidential candidacy.

Is Rochas competent to you? Can he lift millions out of poverty? You chose a failure because he is a praise singer of the North?

GeneralPula:
Not some but many votes from south west. Rochas is the only sellable credible candidate SE can produce that nearly all the country wouldn’t mind voting for him.,

Sad part for them yeeboz is they been hating on the man long time ago because he isn’t in PDP lol.

When he was killed, did Gowon not repeal the decree? How can a country be cast in stone by the activities of one man that stayed six months?

lekki1444:
bros are you arguing with what was printed in national newspaper in 1966 ?

DMerciful:
You dont get it? We are not talking of Igbo presidential candidate, we are talking of Igbo presidency! This goes beyond PDP only!

Its possible with good politicking.

If Nigerians did not truly want the abolition of the regions for provinces(we have provinces in Canada) why did they preserve the arrangement after killing Ironsi? For goodness sake, he only spent 6 months! Gowon was there for 9yrs yet could not reverse it?

lekki1444:
this is the full broadcast here by aguiyyi

https://www.dawodu.com/irons2.htm

"The Regions are Abolished': Ironsi's Broadcast to the Nation banning
Political Parties and introducing Decree No. 34, 24 May 1966.



Fellow Nigerians:
During the past two weeks I presided over meetings of the Supreme
Military council and the Central Executive Council at which many
important state matters were considered. . .
It is now three months since the Government of the Federal Republic
of Nigeria was handed over to the Armed Forces. Now that peace has
been restored in the troubled areas it is time that the Military
Government indicates clearly what it proposes to accomplish before
relinquishing power. The removal of one of the obstacles on the way
is provided for in the Constitution (Suspension and Modification)
Decree (No. 5) 1966 which was promulgated by me today and comes into
effect at once.
The provisions of the Decree are intended to remove the last
vestiges of the intense regionalism of the recent past, and to
produce that cohesion in the governmental structure which is so
necessary in achieving, and maintaining the paramount objective of
the National Military government, and indeed of every true Nigerian,
namely, national unity.
The highlights of this Decree are as follows:
The former regions are abolished, and Nigeria grouped into a number
of territorial areas called provinces. . . .
Nigeria ceases to be what has been described as a federation. It
now becomes simply the Republic of Nigeria.
The former Federal Military government and the Central Executive
Council become respectively the National Military Government and the
executive Council. All the Military Governors are members of the
Executive Council.
A Military Governor is assigned to a group of provinces over which
and subject to the direction and control of the Head of the National
Military Government, he shall exercise executive power. In order to
avoid any major dislocation of the present administrative machinery,
the grouping of the provinces has been made to coincide with the
former regional boundaries. This is entirely a transitional measure
and must be understood as such. The present grouping of the
provinces is without prejudice to the Constitutional and
Administrative arrangements to be embodied in the New Constitution in
accordance with the wishes of the people of Nigeria.
The National Military Government assumes the exercise of all
legislative powers throughout the Republic subject to such
delegations to Military Governors as are considered necessary for
purposes of efficient administration.
The public services of the former federation and regions become
unified into one national public service under a National Public
Service Commission. There is a provincial Service Commission for
each group of provinces to which is delegated functions in respect of
public officers below a given rank. This rather drastic change will
probably involve a reconstitution of the existing commissions, and
the National Military Government reserves the right to do so in the
manner stipulated in the Decree. Until this is done, the present
Commissioners continue to act in their posts. Every civil servant is
now called upon to see his function in any part of Nigeria in which
he is serving in the context of the whole country. The orientation
should now be towards national unity and progress. I expect all
civil servants to co-operate and to consult at all levels, vertically
and horizontally, between groups of Provinces and between Provinces
and the Centre.
People are aware that Study Groups have been set up to look into
various aspects of governmental activity. One of them is concerned
with problem relating to the Constitution. This Decree is without
prejudice to their activities and their reports will be given proper
consideration by the National Military Government in formulating the
proposals for the future civilian government.
In my nation-wide radio broadcast of January 28, 1966, I said, among
other things: "We cannot afford to continue with sterile political
strife and mutual recriminations. I have therefore ordered that
there shall be no display in party flags or symbols, and no shouting
of political slogans.'
On March 3, I caused a press release to be issued calling attention
to the fact that political meetings were, in spite of my order, being
held in certain parts of the country, and warned the public and the
press to cooperate with the Federal Military Government in its tasks
of national reconstruction.
In spite of these warnings, political party activities still
continue, either directly, or through various tribal societies and
organizations. The National Military Government owes it as a duty to
the people of this country to remove the ills which infested the
former regime, to restore the faith of our people in their to remove
the ills which infested the former regime, to restore the faith of
our people in their fatherland and its institutions, so that when the
time comes for the civilian government to return, a healthy body
politic would have emerged, and last vestiges of bitter factionalism
removed.
The National Military Government having committed itself to this
task is firmly resolved to conclude it, and will not be diverted from,
or obstructed in, the fulfillment of this objective by the
activities or political manoeuvres of any society, party, union or
association. Part of our task is the removal of politics based on
tribal affiliations which, as everybody knows, have manifested
political intrigues, or have been used as bases for party-political
propaganda. This leads me to the removal of the second obstacle on
the way for which provision has been made in the Public Order Decree
1966, which I have signed today and which comes into operation
forthwith, dissolving all organizations of the type scheduled therein,
and banning any manifestations of their political purpose. These
organizations have been dissolved and will be buried along with the
tribal, sectional and regional bitterness which they engendered.
Certain types of associations and organizations are unaffected and
will remain so, only for as long as they do not engage in any
political activity. It is the cardinal aim of my Government to foster
the growth of town development unions, membership of which should be
open to all inhabitants of the particular town irrespective of their
tribal origin. This does not mean for instance that Efiks residing
outside Calabar should not contribute towards the development of
Calabar development union but it does mean that a Tiv or Hausa
residing in Calabar should be eligible for membership and should be
allowed to participate fully in the development of that town.
This Decree also prohibits the formation of new political parties.
I must emphasize however that the ban on formation of new political
parties is of limited duration and is designed to enable this
corrective government to get on with its task especially at this
initial stage. At the appropriate time provisions will be made
outlining the procedure for the formation of new political
associations.]
I want however to leave no doubt in the mind of anybody, that the
provisions of this decree will certainly be enforced. This is a
Military Regime and soldiers do not allow themselves to be diverted
from or obstructed in the fulfillment of their objectives. With us
the objectives will be pursued with supreme determination and vigor.
In this we need not only the cooperation but the discipline of every
Nigerian.
I wish to make it clear that the prohibition of the formation of new
political associations has no sinister motive. The limitation period
until the 17th of January 1969 may be reduced if the Military
Government accomplishes its aims before then. Our determination is
that until the two decrees I have signed today are abrogated, every
individual should be preoccupied with the task of national
reconstruction, not as ex-politician, but simply as a Nigerian with
faith in his country's destiny.
Malicious rumours designed to mar our national reconstruction
continue to be carried about by certain individuals in spite of my
repeated warnings. Cases of impersonation of officers of the Armed
Forces are still reported. I have to warn again those who indulge in
these criminal acts to discipline themselves forthwith and not to
provoke us into taking very drastic measures which may otherwise
become necessary.
In pursuance of its policy for achieving national unity, my
Government is setting up a body to review all the existing Government-
sponsored newspapers in the context of national unity. This body
will also recommend the most effective organization for running the
Information, Broadcasting and Television Services in the country and
the financial implications involved.
I must not end this broadcast without pointing out a recent
development which, if not checked, will adversely affect the morale
of the Civil Service and thereby hamper our national reconstruction.
By this I mean the unnecessary criticism recently being leveled
against the Civil Service by certain sections of the Press. It is
common knowledge that civil servants are expected to tender advice to
Ministers but it was not obligatory on the part of the former
Ministers to accept advise so tendered. It will therefore be wrong
to blame civil servants for mistakes made by their Ministers who in
many cases did not accept the advice given to them by these officers.

I have to make it abundantly clear to everyone that my Government
will continue to use the services of the present civil servants.
However, my government believes in maintaining the highest standard
of efficiency in the Civil Service and will not hesitate to do away
with anyone found guilty of inefficiency, nepotism, tribalism and
corruption.
I therefore wish to appeal to all newspaper editors and columnists
to look for a more profitable pastime and desist from criticising
civil servants unnecessarily especially as they realize that because
of the tradition of their calling, civil servants are barred from
defending themselves on the pages of newspapers. Such attacks will
certainly not help the Military Government and is sure eventually to
demoralizes members of the Public Service who are rendering such
noble service to this nation under difficult conditions. If any
member of the public has any genuine case against any civil servant,
he or she should make a report to the appropriate quarters.
We are determined to accomplish the main tasks we have set ourselves.
The various problems involved are being studied by the various
working parties which I have set up. Whilst these studies are in
progress my Government cannot remain at a standstill and must
therefore forge ahead in the meantime. As a corrective regime we
must ensure that the fatal maladies of the past are cured before we
relinquish power. We propose as a last act to give the country an
accurate count as well as a Constitution which will guarantee unity,
freedom, and true democracy to all Nigerians everywhere.
Investigations are proceeding in respect of ex-politicians of the
former regime. Any of them found guilty will be dealt with according
to Law irrespective of their position in the community. My
Government will then consider utilizing the services of those who
have not been found wanting and who are prepared to serve in the
context of national unity.
Nigerians must understand and respect one another in the new
national spirit. Those ex-politicians in different camps who
previously regarded one another as enemies should now forget the past
and work together for the common good.
With the dissolution of political parties and tribal unions I want
all Nigerians everywhere in Nigeria to regard one another not as
strangers but as Nigerians with common nationalists irrespective of
their tribe or place of origin. From henceforth no reference to
tribe or place of origin will appear in any official document. . .
Finally, I appeal to all Nigerians and friends of Nigeria to
cooperate with the Military Government in the difficult task of
national reconstruction.

LegendHero:
@the bolded, Behind the scene agreement by which tribe or zone? Are the Igbos included?. Not all region came together for a behind the scene agreement to bring a Yoruba candidate to rule, it is only the NORTH.

Most of you on Nairaland don’t know jack about your history and that is why ignorance abound on this forum.

I will lecture you once and I will ask you a question at the end.

—After the death of Abacha, Abdulsalam allowed parties to contest elections

—The parties were not yet fully certified, he said they must win a certain part of their constituents to be certified, so they used the local government election of Dec 5th 1998 as the test.

—9 parties contested in the local government elections but only 3 parties performed well. They were AD, APP, and PDP. Hence Abdulsalam only allowed full registration of these three parties for the presidential elections of 1999.

—However there is an agreement between all parties that the presidential ticket by all parties will be zone to the SOUTH (SW + SE + SS).

—PDP had the largest might and the biggest party, they did their presidential primaries. Below are the candidates and their share of the delegates:
-OLUSEGUN OBASANJO 67.98%
-ALEX EKWUEME 21.36%
-DON ETIEBET 4.35%
-GRAHAM DOUGLAS 2.91%
-JIM NWOBODO 2.42%
-PHILIP ASIODU 0.49%
-FRANCIS ELLAH 0.49%

@the above, the reason Obasanjo won is because all the military guys supported him and they spend nothing less than 50k each on delegates on the Election Day. Also, the Northerners supported OBJ like their own, and all the Governor-elect of the PDP in the North stood with him. Yar’Adua boys like Atiku, Dr. Iyorchia, Jerry Gana, and Alh. Yahaya Kwande controlled OBJ campaign.

Do you see the votes of Ekwueme? Can you see the Igbos contested against OBJ in PDP primaries? Infact, after OBJ won the primaries, Ohaneze then threatened that the Igbos will go and vote the other party in the presidential election instead of PDP as a protest against PDP presenting OBJ.

The NORTH and Military made OBJ and not the Ibos. Fact!

—For the APP presidential primaries, below is the result:
-Olusola Saraki
-Gamaliel Onosode
-Emmanuel Iwuanyanwu
-Ogbonnaya Onu
And etc.

Onu won the ticket. Olusola Saraki was told to step down because it was already zoned to the South and because he’s from Kwara (North), they prevailed on him to step down. So Onu will be the one to lead the alliance with the AD.

—For the AD primaries, you have the likes of Bola Ige, Falae and etc. Then Falae won the primaries.

—Now the APP and AD agreed to form an alliance to fight the PDP and Falae won the nomination where they agree to share the government positron if elected in like 70% for the APP and 30% for the AD since the president is AD.

You might ask me what is the strength of the APP, but know they won 9 governorship position in the 1999 elections all in the North while AD only had 6 governorship position in the SW.

——Verdict: The Northerners were still the one that gave the Yorubas the chance for the AD/APP ticket.

Questions:
In all this, do you think the Yorubas owe the SE any favor on 2023 such that they will need to give the presidential ticket to them free of charge in APC?

The only way for the Igbos to win that ticket is to lobby the North. If the North can support them with their delegates, then they will have the hope to win.

Seun might have forgotten this history or he might not know about it. Hence, he might try to be politically correct like other liberal Yorubas that have been hypnotized by the constant appeal to “Its our time” the Ibos always play. Bro, you have never supported the Yorubas in anything all through your history, and hence we are not under any duty either to man or to God, to reciprocate anything to you guys.

I agree with you on the second to last paragraph. The North holds the aces and we are already lobbying them. They have the largest number of delegates in both parties and the incumbent is also from there. The new APC register they want to compile without Tinubu's influence is also part of it.

Nigeria is tottering on the brink of collapse and anything that will help to stabilize it is what should be done.

DMerciful:
If Nigerians did not truly want the abolition of the regions for provinces(we have provinces in Canada) why did they preserve the arrangement after killing Ironsi? For goodness sake, he only spent 6 months! Gowon was there for 9yrs yet could not reverse it?

Was too late, Aguiyi had written it into the constitution

Aguiyi did a constitution in 6 months? Which constitution was that? The military does not use constitution my friend and constitution can be reviewed. Let's say I go with your argument for the sake of towing your line, what stop Gowon from rewriting it?

lekki1444:
Was too late, Aguiyi had written it into the constitution

Misterdhee1:
PDP was how many years old in 1999? Our democracy was even still in kindergarten as at then. The same democracy has matured now, and can't be gamed to fit the whims and caprices of poor political players like igbos. If you guys want the presidency so bad, then hold pdp in the scrotum - since that's the only party that is close to the heart of your region. Apc won't give its party ticket to an igbo man. You can stake your bet if you doubt this.

You're quite ignorant of local politics is played in Nigeria. It is actually the Northern cabals that have been influencing who emerges in national elections. The same way they gamed the system by sabotaging Alex Ekwueme who was the G34 leader that formed PDP to promote Obasanjo who was just released from prison to eat where he did not sow, is also how they're going to game Tinubu to promote Dave Umahi or any other Igbo man. If you're observant, you will notice that they have started the preliminary process already. They're about to discard the APC register Tinubu men compiled and compile a fresh one without his input. Also, they've eliminated most of Tinubu's henchmen in APC and top government offices and are also removing more of them. I can assure you that they're watching Tinubu too, one careless move by him and they will haunt him.

DMerciful:
Aguiyi did a constitution in 6 months? Which constitution was that? The military does not use constitution my friend and constitution can be reviewed. Let's say I go with your argument for the sake of towing your line, what stop Gowon from rewriting it?

well also championing the course after aguiyi was nnamdi azikiwe.

BastardWike:
You're quite ignorant of local politics is played in Nigeria. It is actually the Northern cabals that have been influencing who emerges in national elections. The same way they gamed the system by sabotaging Alex Ekwueme who was the G34 leader that formed PDP to promote Obasanjo who was just released from prison to eat where he did not sow, is also how they're going to game Tinubu to promote Dave Umahi or any other Igbo man. If you're observant, you will notice that they have started the preliminary process already. They're about to discard the APC register Tinubu men compiled and compile a fresh one without his input. Also, they've eliminated most of Tinubu's henchmen in APC and top government offices and are also removing more of them. I can assure you that they're watching Tinubu too, one careless move by him and they will haunt him.

You're swimming in a self-imposed river of ignorance. Umahi would be used and dumped like Akpabio. By 2022, no one would even hear his name anymore because he simply doesn't have any structure outside his small ebonyi state. You can write today's date down. The only southern politician that has the clout and connection to fight those northern cabals back to back is Tinubu. They all understand this and that's the basis for the alleged gang-up. And peradventure they foolishly test their might and give Umahi the ticket (which won't even happen), then swest will be ready to play the spoiler game for apc. Moroever, pdp will easily win against an apc igbo candidate, even in SE. So rather than deceiving yourself and believing an hausa and Yoruba-Muslim party go hand its ticket to an igbo man, you're better off believing the world will expire before 2023.

Loool.....you need to read Nigeria history and forget listening to people. You got it all wrong!

lekki1444:
well also championing the course after aguiyi was nnamdi azikiwe.

DMerciful:
Loool.....you need to read Nigeria history and forget listening to people. You got it all wrong!

ITS THE TRUTH I HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTS. read this my thread

https://www.nairaland.com/6268143/ndigbo-should-held-responsible-creating

BastardWike:
I agree with you on the second to last paragraph. The North holds the aces and we are already lobbying them. They have the largest number of delegates in both parties and the incumbent is also from there. The new APC register they want to compile without Tinubu's influence is also part of it.

Nigeria is tottering on the brink of collapse and anything that will help to stabilize it is what should be done.

Let’s see how it goes with the APC register.

One thing I’ve learnt is not to write Bola Tinubu off as a strategist.

But I also don’t like speculations, let’s see how the 2023 game will play out.

Gracias!

NADECO II is what I see these Yorubas are cultivating by denying Igbo presidency after PMB.

But this time, there will be no Alex Ekwueme with his G33 to retrieve power from the north to give to another Yoruba as compensation or for rotation/zoning for the south.