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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 5:19pm On Dec 08, 2020
Wale "Wally" Adeyemo, a Nigerian born man appointed as America's deputy Secretary of the treasury.

Why can't we run African countries in a way to attract top intellectuals of african descent from around the world to help us build a better Africa?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by chrisooblog: 5:46pm On Dec 08, 2020
always our primordial ways of selecting our tribal "pesin" instead of choosing our best and most competent. like many writers have rightly said PMB mismanaged the countries diversity which has deliberately or not further divided the country along ethnic lines.

obaaderemi:
Wale "Wally" Adeyemo, a Nigerian born man appointed as America's deputy Secretary of the Reserve Bank.

Why can't we run African countries in a way to attract top intellectuals of african descent from around the world to help us build a better Africa?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by chrisooblog: 5:49pm On Dec 08, 2020
Wale Adeyemo would probably be a "senior special adviser" for one politician like that if he was back home. that is even assuming he's considered for any political office.

obaaderemi:
Wale "Wally" Adeyemo, a Nigerian born man appointed as America's deputy Secretary of the Reserve Bank.

Why can't we run African countries in a way to attract top intellectuals of african descent from around the world to help us build a better Africa?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by ednited(f): 6:21pm On Dec 08, 2020
obaaderemi:
It's good you are safe. I hope the trouble has subsided. There were images of Ethiopians crossing into Sudan. That's horrible. Your president is a Nobel peace prize winner but he is bombing his own people. African leaders are something else.

Nigeria too has got its problems. Badly managed economy, covid19 and our perpetual terrorism problems in the north.

So where is the world fine?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 7:11pm On Dec 08, 2020
chrisooblog:
always our primordial ways of selecting our tribal "pesin" instead of choosing our best and most competent. like many writers have rightly said PMB mismanaged the countries diversity which has deliberately or not further divided the country along ethnic lines.

The thing tire me. Our diversity should be our strength but the reverse is the case not only in Nigeria but across africa.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 7:11pm On Dec 08, 2020
ednited:

So where is the world fine?
Nowhere.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Roan77: 7:55pm On Dec 08, 2020
Samorobo2:


Lol the idiot said that grin grin grin honestly why am I not surprised.

Yes, the unintelligent shma2020 used tetracarbon dioxide as a laughing gas, and when i caught him pants down, he accused me of modifying his post, but he later admitted to his error.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Roan77: 8:13pm On Dec 08, 2020
obaaderemi:
Yes, but the biggest hindrance is Africa's lack of abilities to manufacture stuff that other parts of the world wants. Without manufacturing Africa is going nowhere.

I agree with you bro.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 4:58am On Dec 09, 2020
obaaderemi:
Wale "Wally" Adeyemo, a Nigerian born man appointed as America's deputy Secretary of the treasury.

Why can't we run African countries in a way to attract top intellectuals of african descent from around the world to help us build a better Africa?

You can't run Africa, run individual countries first

There are African countries that are well run
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 4:59am On Dec 09, 2020
Roan77:


I agree with you bro.

Take Mauritius it is not into manufacturing but country doing well with service sector
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 5:02am On Dec 09, 2020
obaaderemi:
The thing tire me. Our diversity should be our strength but the reverse is the case not only in Nigeria but across africa.

Africans should stop worrying about whats happening in Africa rather focus in your own country and how you can make it better


Worrying about Africa even your own country has 1000 issues is pointless
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 6:11am On Dec 09, 2020
Austine1213:


Africans should stop worrying about whats happening in Africa rather focus in your own country and how you can make it better


Worrying about Africa even your own country has 1000 issues is pointless
Look at the way this guy is reasoning.
It's all linked. And I'm not surprised you don't realize that anyway.

If Nigeria is doing well, it has an effect on its neighbours. If our neighbours are doing well, it has an effect on us. Asian countries are growing together. These things are like domino effect.
If South Africa's neighbours are doing well, do you think you will have something called xenophobia in South Africa. Why do you think Europeans and Asians have organizations like EU, ASEAN, etc? Of course, issues in other African countriesw should concern someone with an exposed mind.
Besides, there's something called PanAfricanism. wink

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 6:12am On Dec 09, 2020
Austine1213:


You can't run Africa, run individual countries first

There are African countries that are well run
You need to get exposed to international affairs, my guy. wink
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 7:49am On Dec 09, 2020
obaaderemi:
You need to get exposed to international affairs, my guy. wink

I'm well exposed... Thank you

Improve individual countries, when that is coming alright the Africa issue will sort it self out
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 7:57am On Dec 09, 2020
obaaderemi:
Look at the way this guy is reasoning.
It's all linked. And I'm not surprised you don't realize that anyway.

If Nigeria is doing well, it has an effect on its neighbours. If our neighbours are doing well, it has an effect on us. Asian countries are growing together. These things are like domino effect.
If South Africa's neighbours are doing well, do you think you will have something called xenophobia in South Africa. Why do you think Europeans and Asians have organizations like EU, ASEAN, etc? Of course, issues in other African countriesw should concern someone with an exposed mind.
Besides, there's something called PanAfricanism. wink

Individual countries affairs will only be fixed internally, for instance so you think Ghana can solve SARS issue? No it wont

What's making other countries not to function is internal affairs, citizens are to blame for the state their country is in, after all government is elected by the people

Nigerians issues will only be solved by Nigerians.... Even if the Africa free trade things starts until Nigerians solve their internal affairs.

For instance countries in the South African customs union are all doing well except for Lesotho. Zimbabwe and Mozambique are not in the union, and because they not willing to solve they own issues that's why their countries are in a mess. It's their citizens unwilingless to fix their countries that's hindering them.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 8:02am On Dec 09, 2020
obaaderemi:
Look at the way this guy is reasoning.
It's all linked. And I'm not surprised you don't realize that anyway.

If Nigeria is doing well, it has an effect on its neighbours. If our neighbours are doing well, it has an effect on us. Asian countries are growing together. These things are like domino effect.
If South Africa's neighbours are doing well, do you think you will have something called xenophobia in South Africa. Why do you think Europeans and Asians have organizations like EU, ASEAN, etc? Of course, issues in other African countriesw should concern someone with an exposed mind.
Besides, there's something called PanAfricanism. wink

EU, ASEAN ountries are functional because their citizens had will power to improve their own

YOU CAN'T BE SPEAKING OF AFRICA WHEN ECOWAS is not functional, Nigeria can't speak ECOWAS when Nigeria is not functional, so you get where I'm getting?

NB I'm not saying Nigeria is not functional, nor is it an attack on Nigeria... I'm trying to give you a picture how things work
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 8:13am On Dec 09, 2020
Austine1213:


Take Mauritius it is not into manufacturing but country doing well with service sector
I wonder where you get these your wrong notions from.
Manufacturing and export of manufactured goods is critical to the Mauritian economy. It is a small country but then industry contributes 21% of its GDP. In South Africa it's just 29%. It's even lower in other African countries. Export of textile and sugar is very important to Mauritius.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 8:18am On Dec 09, 2020
obaaderemi:
I wonder where you get these your wrong notions from.
Manufacturing and export of manufactured goods is critical to the Mauritian economy. It is a small country but then industry contributes 21% of its GDP. In South Africa it's just 29%. It's even lower in other African countries. Export of textile and sugar is very important to Mauritius.

Mauritius economy is largely service-based (76% of GDP in 2019), followed by industry (21%) and agriculture (3%). Aggregate demand has been underpinned by strong growth in household consumption, while investment stood at 19% of GDP in 2019. Afdb (2019)

Services is what makes Mauritius what it is not industries

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 8:20am On Dec 09, 2020
obaaderemi:
I wonder where you get these your wrong notions from.
Manufacturing and export of manufactured goods is critical to the Mauritian economy. It is a small country but then industry contributes 21% of its GDP. In South Africa it's just 29%. It's even lower in other African countries. Export of textile and sugar is very important to Mauritius.

It was careless of you to dismiss the 76% contribution of the service sector to GDP

What's the make up of Singapore and US economy?
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 8:25am On Dec 09, 2020
obaaderemi:
I wonder where you get these your wrong notions from.
Manufacturing and export of manufactured goods is critical to the Mauritian economy. It is a small country but then industry contributes 21% of its GDP. In South Africa it's just 29%. It's even lower in other African countries. Export of textile and sugar is very important to Mauritius.

If you check out all the advanced economies make up

You'll find more than 60% of GDP is service, followed by industries then primary(mining, agriculture)


Even better check out China economy make up, it's make up is service, industry then agriculture

The bigger the service sector grows t the more country will prosper

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 8:32am On Dec 09, 2020
Austine1213:


Individual countries affairs will only be fixed internally, for instance so you think Ghana can solve SARS issue? No it wont

What's making other countries not to function is internal affairs, citizens are to blame for the state their country is in, after all government is elected by the people

Nigerians issues will only be solved by Nigerians.... Even if the Africa free trade things starts until Nigerians solve their internal affairs.

For instance countries in the South African customs union are all doing well except for Lesotho. Zimbabwe and Mozambique are not in the union, and because they not willing to solve they own issues that's why their countries are in a mess. It's their citizens unwilingless to fix their countries that's hindering them.
I don't know what you are talking about.
Can you point out where I implied that Nigeria's issues should be solved by others or where I said South Africa should help solve Zimbabwe's issues.
But then you can't wave away the importance of regional cohesion and economic linkage. Countries of Eastern Europe for example, functioned better after joining the EU. Do you know how much Nigeria has done in sustaining peace in West Africa? Spending billions and losing soldiers. Do you think South Africa crushed apartheid exclusively on its on?
Humanity is more linked than people like you think. This is why countries like USA take foreign affairs very seriously. And it all starts by thinking about your region and not just your internal affairs. If the big countries of Africa begin to do well, it will have a multiplier effect on other countries and vice versa. I hope you get it now. wink

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 8:38am On Dec 09, 2020
obaaderemi:
I don't know what you are talking about.
Can you point out where I implied that Nigeria's issues should be solved by others or where I said South Africa should help solve Zimbabwe's issues.
But then you can't wave away the importance of regional cohesion and economic linkage. Countries of Eastern Europe for example, functioned better after joining the EU. Do you know how much Nigeria has done in sustaining peace in West Africa? Spending billions and losing soldiers. Do you think South Africa crushed apartheid exclusively on its on?


much of it was sanctions imposed on South Africa, and international from countries like Netherlands, UK, Russia, US and put pressure on the apartheid government

South Africa can't help Zimbabwe if people of Zimbabwe are not willing to fight for their country, Zimbabwe is a sovereign country

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 8:40am On Dec 09, 2020
Austine1213:


If you check out all the advanced economies make up

You'll find more than 60% of GDP is service, followed by industries then primary(mining, agriculture)


Even better check out China economy make up, it's make up is service, industry then agriculture

The bigger the service sector grows t the more country will prosper
Yes, the service sector is always the biggest not only in advanced countries but everywhere. Even in China which is the workshop of the world. That should tell you that Mauritius having 21% of its GDP from manufacturing is something great! Making your statement wrong when you said Mauritius is not into manufacturing.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 8:42am On Dec 09, 2020
obaaderemi:
I don't know what you are talking about.
Can you point out where I implied that Nigeria's issues should be solved by others or where I said South Africa should help solve Zimbabwe's issues.
But then you can't wave away the importance of regional cohesion and economic linkage. Countries of Eastern Europe for example, functioned better after joining the EU. Do you know how much Nigeria has done in sustaining peace in West Africa? Spending billions and losing soldiers. Do you think South Africa crushed apartheid exclusively on its on?
Humanity is more linked than people like you think. This is why countries like USA take foreign affairs very seriously. And it all starts by thinking about your region and not just your internal affairs. If the big countries of Africa begin to do well, it will have a multiplier effect on other countries and vice versa. I hope you get it now. wink

Apartheid was not crushed, there was a referendum whether to continue with apartheid or not.

The results came and white South africans voted for it to be abolished. That's howMandela ^released the rest is history

And much thanks to our grandpa's and grandma's who were in the streets being shot at day and night.. And never thought of leaving to another country

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 8:47am On Dec 09, 2020
obaaderemi:
Yes, the service sector is always the biggest not only in advanced countries but everywhere. Even in China which is the workshop of the world. That should tell you that Mauritius having 21% of its GDP from manufacturing is something great! Making your statement wrong when you said Mauritius is not into manufacturing.

China knew where the future is that's why it started focusing on services over decade ago, China will surpass US cos its service sector not cos of industries

Mauritius is not much into industry, its a service country that's why service accounts[i] 76% to the gdp

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 8:49am On Dec 09, 2020
obaaderemi:
Yes, the service sector is always the biggest not only in advanced countries but everywhere. Even in China which is the workshop of the world. That should tell you that Mauritius having 21% of its GDP from manufacturing is something great! Making your statement wrong when you said Mauritius is not into manufacturing.

My statement is very correct

Just like saying "Italians are not into rice, does not mean they don't eat or have it" general make up of dishes is not rice
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 8:50am On Dec 09, 2020
Austine1213:


much of it was sanctions imposed on South Africa, and international from countries like Netherlands, UK, Russia, US and put pressure on the apartheid government

South Africa can't help Zimbabwe if people of Zimbabwe are not willing to fight for their country, Zimbabwe is a sovereign country
That's what I am saying. But you must admit people came together to help South Africa. Sanctions or no sanctions, they helped South Africa. And it wasn't just us, Russia and UK. Nigeria, Tanzania, Ghana and other also contributed. I still don't know why you black South Africans always find pleasure in belittling the efforts of fellow African countries, while praising the efforts of whites who actually worked with the apartheid government against blacks. Until the 80s the government of Ronald Reagan was still labelling the anc a terrorist group and staying away from sanctioning the apartheid regime. grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 9:11am On Dec 09, 2020
obaaderemi:
That's what I am saying. But you must admit people came together to help South Africa. Sanctions or no sanctions, they helped South Africa. And it wasn't just us, Russia and UK. Nigeria, Tanzania, Ghana and other also contributed. I still don't know why you black South Africans always find pleasure in belittling the efforts of fellow African countries, while praising the efforts of whites who actually worked with the apartheid government against blacks. Until the 80s the government of Ronald Reagan was still labelling the anc a terrorist group and staying away from sanctioning the apartheid regime. grin

So what did Nigeria, Ghana, Tanzania really do to help South Africans?

Its the actions of ANC that brought to be listed terror group, as they were damaging and bombing electricity infrastructure, bombing buildings... Those are actions of a terrorist

That's what would terrorists in Kenya or Nigeria do right?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by obaaderemi: 10:45am On Dec 09, 2020
Austine1213:


So what did Nigeria, Ghana, Tanzania really do to help South Africans?

Its the actions of ANC that brought to be listed terror group, as they were damaging and bombing electricity infrastructure, bombing buildings... Those are actions of a terrorist

That's what would terrorists in Kenya or Nigeria do right?
Nigerians and other African countries helped keep apartheid in public minds. British companies were nationalised in Nigeria because they continued working with the apartheid regime. Money was donated to ANC from across Africa. Or how do you think anc survived. Some of your freedom fighters were accommodated in other African countries. It goes on and on. South Africa was sanctioned by other African countries.

The whites you felt helped you actually worked against the downfall of apartheid because they had a kindred spirit with your white tormentors.
Both Thatcher and U.S. President Ronald Reagan accused
Mandela and the ANC of being communists and terrorists in
the 1980s, and Reagan’s administration even placed Mandela
and the ANC on a terrorist watch list . The U.S. and U.K.
leaders considered South Africa’s apartheid regime to be a
Cold War ally, and the opposing ANC to be an enemy bent on
spreading communism
.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 10:57am On Dec 09, 2020
obaaderemi:
Nigerians and other African countries helped keep apartheid in public minds. British companies were nationalised in Nigeria because they continued working with the apartheid regime. Money was donated to ANC from across Africa. Or how do you think anc survived. Some of your freedom fighters were accommodated in other African countries. It goes on and on. South Africa was sanctioned by other African countries.

The whites you felt helped you actually worked against the downfall of apartheid because they had a kindred spirit with your white tormentors.


Apartheid ended after a referendum that's fact


Can you prove how many were accomodated, the ANC was in Zambia fact.


Tanzania chased then away, Nigeria was hostile, ANC peeps diapeared without a trace

African countries were transit countries, only Zambia really accomodated ANC

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by chrisooblog: 11:10am On Dec 09, 2020
bro can't believe you are actually saying all this.

Mandela himself in his book Long Walk To Freedom acknowledged the role African countries like Nigeria, Tanzania, Ghana, Guinea heck even Algeria played in contributing to the abolishment of apartheid.

Please spare us the referendum story everyone knows the White led government finally caved in when their biggest backers like the US and UK were getting cold feet because of pressure from their citizens.

read up on the 1976 olympics in montreal that African countries boycotted in support against Apartheid.

Austine1213:


Apartheid ended after a referendum that's fact


Can you prove how many were accomodated, the ANC was in Zambia fact.


Tanzania chased then away, Nigeria was hostile, ANC peeps diapeared without a trace

African countries were transit countries, only Zambia really accomodated ANC

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Ashirioluwa: 12:24pm On Dec 09, 2020
Most Kenyans believe their country is better than Nigeria because a lot of Nigerians are living in Kenya. Most of these Nigerians are there just for travel sake. Most of them get stuck in Kenya because they failed to do research before they made that decision to relocate to Kenya. Everybody wants to live abroad

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