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Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by reallest(f): 6:48pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
DZTech: Same way Oyinbo people killed themselves,is it Sunni/Shia war or Catholic/Protestant? |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by DZTech: 7:31pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
whatever u might mean, my point is simple- every nation seeks to get the upper hand over it's neighbors. there are conflicts in almost every country, so Africans can develop and grow only when they (we) accept responsibility for our situation. the West is no more guilty than the middle East; it's all our ancestors- who fought and enslaved each other thru the millennia. Zimbabwe was wrecked and looted by Mugabe and his cronies. South Africa has been ruled by blacks since Mandela, yet poverty and corruption are rife- even worse- there. who do Nigerians have to blame for the State of the nation? Nigerians. unless ur saying we're either mentally deficient- which is the only reason why outside forces can influence us; or the continent is full of children. is that what ur saying? reallest: 1 Like |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by LukasPodolski: 7:50pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
scholes0:I was talking about Indigenous people only, there is no doubt that Ilorin is a Cosmopolitan city with hundreds of thousands of people from Kogi, Kwara South, Ibos e.t.c... In Kwara non- indeginous people don't vote, they used to travel back to their hometown/state to vote. Now if we use the number of registered voters in each local government to judge the population, the three Ilorin LGA are the top three (massively), Saraki wasn't actually wrong when he said his adugbo vote(I exaggerated when I said polling Booth) is far more than a certain LGA (Ekiti, Isin and Oke-Ero), he did said that. And if we look at it very well, He wasn't wrong, looking at the massive registered voters in Ilorin west (Saraki LGA), it's possible for Agbaji to pull more voters than one of (Isin, Ekiti and Oke-Ero) You can Google the number of registered voters in each lga. NOW BACK TO THE SUBJECT UNDER DISCUSS (though I don't want to discuss this further) KWARA CENTRAL : which constitutes 30-40% of the whole state population should be at least 95% Muslims (throughout my stay in Ilorin, I never meet and indigene that practice Christianity, I'm being fair with 5% I gave Christians, actually it should be 98% Muslims, from my own experience) KWARA SOUTH : Offa is majority muslims(massively) Ifelodun too is majority Muslims Irepodun looks like 50/50 or slightly Muslims majority. the above three are the largest and the most populous LGA in Kwara South out of 7. If you are coming Southward from Ilorin, it's when you get to OKEONIGBIN in Isin that you will start seeing Christians dominated towns, from OKEONIGBIN downward are smaller towns and villages except OMU-ARAN(Irepodun LGA) OMU-ARAN that I know very is like 50/50 Now back to OMU-ARAN (and Irepodun), omu Aran is cosmopolitan with influx of people from nearby small villages like (Oko, Aran orin, eleyin, Roore, Olla, e.t.c), these smaller villages are Christians dominated but very small in population. Irepodun looks like 50/50, in Irepodun, bigger towns like Oro, Ajase-ipo are Muslim dominated, while smaller villages are Christian dominated. Next LGA is Oke-Ero, Iloffa which is the biggest is 50/50 (I personally know this place) but other towns like Odo-owa, Ayedun, Ekan, Idofin with massive Christian population will set Oke-Ero at 80%/20% in favour of Christians. Ekiti has the same pattern with Oke-Ero, the biggest town, Osi is muslim dominated and the rest villages are massively Christians 80% Christians with Oke-Ero. Offa+Ifelodun will surely cancel Isin+Oke-Ero+Ekiti (while Irepodun will remain neutral) OYUN LGA is what I don't have an idea, but it's also small and very close offa, I believe it should be 50/50, Offa should have an influence on this LGA, even most people don't know the difference between Offa and Ijagbo. KWARA SOUTH AT BEST IS 50/50 or slightly Muslim majority (judging by the analysis in the last two paragraphs) Hence I wasn't wrong when I said the Yorubas (Kwara central and Kwara South) are 70% muslims, 30% Christians, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ADD MORO(the other Yoruba LGA in Kwara north) Moro is majority Muslims and will surely cancel Oyun (that I said I don't have an idea about) 70%-30% in favour of Muslims looks fair. Now since we all agree that Kwara north is Majority Muslims, won't that reduce everything? Kwara north will reduce Christians to like 20-25% at best. Cc Nowenuse Last, Mr Nowenuse, I'm not a Muslim, I have no reason to deny my faith. |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by LukasPodolski: 8:26pm On Dec 14, 2020 |
ggood:The people of ILORIN are not conquered people, albeit the Emirate system was forced on them. The Emir (Emirate) title, is not an Ethnic title, it's a religion title... the Ilorin people fell in love with the title, I think because they are devoted Muslims, they prefers a religion ruler to ethnic ruler. But the Kwara South where I came from is a different ball game, each town all have an Oba( the Yoruba traditional title), out of the 7 local government areas in Kwara South, only one doesn't have a FIRST CLASS KING, one (Irepodun even has TWO FIRST CLASS KINGS) IN TOTAL THERE ARE 7 FIRST CLASS KINGS IN KWARA SOUTH. THE EMIR OF ILORIN IS ALSO A FIRST CLASS KING, AND HE'S NOT SUPERIOR TO THE 7 KINGS IN KWARA SOUTH. I think there is a difference between KWARA AND ILORIN. If you say ILORIN people are conquered people, we may agree (but I don't think so) they are not conquered people. Saying Kwara people are conquered people is nonsense, ILORIN IS NOT THE WHOLE OF KWARA STATE. DELTA people are not conquered people, in Asaba, The traditional ruler is an Obi, using your analogy, is it safe to say, Urhobo, itsekiri and Isoko people are conquered people? Same with EDO, Oba is a Yoruba title, but the Bini king is an Oba. Hence, Bini people are not conquered people. URHOBO people are not conquered people for having an Obi in the state capital. Ilorin people too are not conquered people (Emir is a religion title and not Fulani title) Thank you. I wan ignore this question before Sha, so don't ask another stupid question. |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by reallest(f): 8:23am On Dec 15, 2020 |
DZTech: So if we're not mentally deficiency would I be hating someone because he's a Muslim and I'm irreligious?you see we Africa need to do away with all this Oyinbo religion that keep dividing us if we are to move forward,can't you see how aggressive that nowuse is? I'm even surprised he's a Christian because christians are known to be gentle,but with what Christianity is turning to in Nigeria now,it won't take 10years from now before they start same madness as their compatriot to Islam is doing,Why must you hate someone because he's not of your religion faith? |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by DZTech: 9:16am On Dec 15, 2020 |
wait o. so for ur mind, we'd all be living in harmony, if we were worshipping African deities..? BUHAHAHAHA!! reallest: |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by porka: 9:38am On Dec 15, 2020 |
LukasPodolski: Ogbeni, you have been making many bogus assertions but this one in boldface is the worst. No educated person should type that. Just remove that one immediately or modify ASAP. |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by LukasPodolski: 9:55am On Dec 15, 2020 |
porka:will you keep quiet? 98% of voters in Kwara State are indigenous people (the other 2% is even negligible) non-indigenes usually go back to their home state to vote since they registered in their home state, is this even a rocket science? and this happens in other states too except states like Lagos, FCT and some other states. Voters are adviced to register in their hometown because it's gives their hometown opportunities, I mean having large number of voters give their hometown some special status. and that's why some towns do organize free transportation for their people living outside during voters registration. shut up and stop quoting me.. this is what every SENSIBLE person should know. |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by reallest(f): 11:12am On Dec 15, 2020 |
DZTech: Yes in this present age |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by porka: 6:36pm On Dec 15, 2020 |
LukasPodolski: No matter what is done, a local folk will remain local. You were offered a life-line to modify the nonsense you wrote but you doubled-down instead. Is it conceivable that any smart person would claim that only indigenous people vote in any jurisdiction and even refer to that as "science" in December 2020? Why then do politicians all over the country (including Kwara State) reachout to different settler communities in their domain to canvass for their votes? If they all settlers travel to their villages and home states as your "science" taught you, who do politicians go to see for support during elections? Do you know what intelligent people do? They refrain from throwing figures and percentages everywhere without anything to back them up otherwise they are seen as charlatans or quacks. Except it is something everyone can verify or a survey you conducted or participated in (which, of course, should be in public domain) it makes more sense not to make bogus claims like you doing here. In the absence of a scientific survey or a census (headcount), demography is difficult to ascertain. All the percentage you have been dishing out here amount to mere assumptions or wishful thinking or falsehood. 1 Like |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by DZTech: 10:03pm On Dec 15, 2020 |
reallest:lol. remember ife-modakeke crisis? tribal. tiv-igala? tribal. Southeast- land wars South South- ikwere vs ijaw so many in almost all northern states. or u think bandits r attacking a religion? or that our politicians are divided along religious or ethnic lines? let me help u change ur perspective- d black man is mentally lazy. that's why politicians can lead them by the nose. we refuse to ask questions, let alone read books. all the answers to our problems are right at our fingertips, but we INSIST on being spoon-fed. I beg u, let charity begin at home. stop blaming oyinbo. |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by aumeehn: 2:56pm On Dec 17, 2020 |
Nowenuse:lol i am not going to drag this with you ok. It's obvious you don't live in Adamawa. |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by Flamezreal(m): 8:17pm On Dec 18, 2020 |
tamdun:I'm from oke-sunna. for privacy i won't give u my house name. |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by 9jakool: 9:53pm On Dec 18, 2020 |
LukasPodolski: Ilorin is 99.9% Muslim just as the sun rises in the West and sets in the East. |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by eas01: 8:51am On Jan 07, 2021 |
dustmalik:So how many % of igallas are christians then? |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by TooMuchStuff: 9:45am On Jan 07, 2021 |
Nowenuse:Wow. Just discovered this whole truth. Very aptly put |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by Rivguydee(m): 5:54am On Sep 21, 2022 |
Flamezreal:So pathetic |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by kevclin(m): 6:29am On Feb 24, 2023 |
[quote author=aumeehn post=97028566] Adamwa Christian dominated, OGa sharrap!! List 5 LGA out of the 21 in Adamawa that is 100% dominated by Christians! [/quote There's no Local Government in Adamawa that's 100% dominated by any religion. But Christians have slight edge in population in the State. |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by Spiderm: 9:18pm On Mar 03, 2023 |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by Teymanhenry(f): 7:04am On May 14, 2023 |
Nowenuse: You nailed it man. Just as a Christian clearly won this just concluded state gubernatorial elections but the president and many Muslim top shots have to leave their states come to Nasarawa and turn the votes. It's unfortunate that Christian top politicians couldn't come and help |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by greatiyk4u(m): 7:20am On May 14, 2023 |
AdaugoChisom: Minchika, is over 85%Christian dominated All the areas Boko haram operate in the North east are Christian dominated LGA, it is a ploy to forcefully convert them to Islam In Adamawa state they dominate Gombi Hong Mubi north and south Madagali Minchika...etc These are boarder LGA with southern Borno state that are equally indigenous Christians. Do you know there is no indigenous Hausa in the whole of Noth east and North central? They have their tribes Nd dialects, the Hausa/fulanis migrate there with Islamic religion and impose it on them using Politics Economics as they are more entrepreneurial Government jobs and promotions Leaderships....you can't be corroborated a king if you are not a Muslim, the only exception to this is in Jo's where the gbongon Jos has historically remained Christian's, same with wukari and Numan in Taraba and adamawa state. |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by biotechshola(m): 7:46am On May 14, 2023 |
Nowenuse: You people like causing unnecessary troubles with your flawed analysis..so you think a northern Christian identify more with an Igbo Christian because you both practise Christianity? A northern Christian that worships in hausa and even refer to God as Allaah, Ubangidi and so on..? The reason why you people always think the Christian yorubas will align more with a Christian Igbo at the expense of his own brother, sister or even mother who is a Muslim.. No wonder a Muslim Igbo is considered an outcast and rejected even by his own families.. Years after colonization, some of you are still unliberated.. Shame!! 1 Like |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by WorldRichest: 8:02am On May 14, 2023 |
TooMuchStuff: Then tell the Christians to learn how to play politics |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by J3susFr3ak: 8:38pm On May 14, 2023 |
biotechshola: It is your analysis that is terribly flawed Mr. Shola. Prior to colonial contact and rule, MOST Middle Belt ethnic groups had either resisted the Islamic onslaughts or had zero contact with them at all. The Missionaries had already done extensive work translating the Bible to Hausa to preach primarily to the Hausa Muslims first. But the met a strange and stiff Luguardian policy that forbade or restricted them from preaching to Hausa or Fulani Muslims. So it is in this regard that the Missionaries observed that a lot of non-Fulani/Hausa pagans were more open and receptive to Christianity...where Hausa or Fulani contact with these natives were entirely minimal or zero at best. The Colonial administration grudgingly allowed the Missionaries to work with these pagan populations. But the unfortunate reality was that since there were hundreds of different minority languages but the Bible had originally been translated to Hausa using a lot of Hausa terms and Hausa-translations equivalents for Hebrew names (like Jacob being translated to Yakubu etc.,) the only option at the initial time was for the Missionaries to begin preaching to these pagans in Hausa. In the places the built schools, English was used but for the local people in the villages--who were not educated, Hausa was used to preach using the Hausa Bible. This was how many also adopted the names from the Bible based on the Hausa translation as well. It had entirely nothing to do with being "brothers" with any Hausa. Today, there has been a lot of effort to translate the Bible into indigenous Languages as it is in the Bible Translation Trust in Jos. The 60s was a time filled with a lot of ignorance. But clearly with the level of enlightenment today, there was a clear reason why Plateau for instance massively voted for Obi and were so very disappointed--even depressed when he did not win. |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by J3susFr3ak: 8:39pm On May 14, 2023 |
WorldRichest: Sorry...Terrorism is not in our pure Christian blood. Satan tried to play politics too with God...Jesus had to put him back to His place. There is time for everything... |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by EnEnPeecee: 10:36pm On May 14, 2023 |
Apart from Kano, jigawa, katsina, sokoto and zamfara, the rest are Christian dominated |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by Mantahirdra(m): 11:14pm On May 14, 2023 |
All this propaganda is to fight for lost campaign ( Obi ) . I laughed when I saw someone said there are almost 25 Christians in Katsina State and Kano . |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by jalaludeen1(m): 11:15pm On May 14, 2023 |
This is the kind of tread that made Peter Obi to use religion to campaign and eventually led to his failure. Christian population in the North is over estimated in this tread, especially in Nasarawa,kwara, kogi and Niger. I am from Niger but I just laugh when someone say Niger is 50/50 Muslims and Christian population. |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by Mantahirdra(m): 11:20pm On May 14, 2023 |
You have counted the Christians in the North , so what about the Muslims in the south ? I think the whole Oyo , Ogun , Osun and Lagos are Muslim dominated state , only Ondo and Ekiti are Christians dominated state in the south West . And how many towns and villages are Muslims dominated in South South ? |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by garfield1: 11:23pm On May 14, 2023 |
Teymanhenry: Oga,engr sule defeated Dave |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by Christistruth02: 11:35pm On May 14, 2023 |
DasaintHope: But Gen Martin Luther became COAS after that |
Re: Which Parts Of The North Are Christian - Dominated? by frank14011991(m): 3:26am On May 15, 2023 |
Christistruth02:don't mind that guy vice admiral Usman is a former Chief of naval staff and Christian from southern kaduna |
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