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Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by Nomorelove: 9:49am On Dec 20, 2020
Dalil8:
There's nothing special about this record, Ronaldo could have shattered this record years ago if he was still at Real.

Mrs Pessi still missed a penalty yesterday lmaoo..

CR7 still remains the G.O.A.T with 774 Goals.
Stupid fool. Did Ronaldo not miss a penalty last week? Upon that he didn't even try to score again. You'll keep wailing all your life. Anuofia

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Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by amamahdaniel(m): 9:59am On Dec 20, 2020
Praktikals:

Dont look too far, Ronaldo is better than him. Ronaldo has proven himself in England, Spain and Italy. Let Messi do the same.





If your head cannot understand that
CR7 is the G.O.A.T with 774 Goals, how can your head handle the Jamaican weed I smoke undecided

someone told me you are a fool but I was arguing not knowing you are more than a fool.

Did you know that MESSI has more goals than Ronaldo against England top 6.
MANCHESTER UNITED, MANCHESTER CITY, CHELSEA, ARSENAL, LIVERPOOL AND TOTHEHAM.

without playing in that league compared to Ronaldo than spend more than 3 seasons there.
your foolishness is legendary bro.

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Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by Dalil8: 10:00am On Dec 20, 2020
Nomorelove:

I'm a bastard and my mum is a Wh0re. Did Ronaldo not miss a penalty last week? Upon that he didn't even try to score again. I'll keep wailing and living in poverty all my life.

Don't be too hard on yourself kid.
Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by Evilgenuis: 10:01am On Dec 20, 2020
internationalman:
Happy for Messi...

But Barca is just another Arsenal of Spain...

I still don't understand why Koeman sold Suarez citing that Suarez left because he wasn't willing to prove himself.. Like WTF does he have to prove when his records speak for him...

You want Messi to remain at the Club yet you keep letting go easily all his best friends on and off the field..

All these new armature coaches that are forming professional last last body go tell them.

Lampard, Koeman, Arteta, your days are all numbered..

Modified: I didn't include OGS because he hardly has issues with any of his first team players, even as difficult as Pogba is to manage he still tries to manage him.. He gives every player chance to play without freezing out anyone citing a personal or footballing reasons like Lampard did with Giroud, Arteta with Ozil and Koeman with Suarez..

Ighalo comes to mind angry angry angry angry
Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by emmyrate1(m): 10:02am On Dec 20, 2020
Dalil8:
There's nothing special about this record, Ronaldo could have shattered this record years ago if he was still at Real.

Mrs Pessi still missed a penalty yesterday lmaoo..

CR7 still remains the G.O.A.T with 774 Goals.
the last time I check Ronaldo miss a penalty that was supposed to win juve the game.
Another record broken by Messi which will take a centuries to break. Messi have about 3 centuries record on ground which might not even been broken till eternity. I guess ur Ronaldo don't even have record that can stand for 20yrs without seeing anyone that can break the record.

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Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by DonCortino: 10:04am On Dec 20, 2020
nothing spectacular about this record. undecided

Messi has made sure no other good striker lasts in Barcelona so that he keeps collecting everything.

it wasnt like that during Pele's time.
Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by Beverlyjean(f): 10:05am On Dec 20, 2020
xcesspaschal:


Having played more than 158 matches more than messi. Receive sense man.

Just like messi has also played 110 more games than pele
Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by Dalil8: 10:06am On Dec 20, 2020
emmyrate1:
the last time I check Ronaldo miss a penalty that was supposed to win juve the game.
Another record broken by Messi which will take a centuries to break. Messi have about 3 centuries record on ground which might not even been broken till eternity. I guess ur Ronaldo don't even have record that can stand for 20yrs without seeing anyone that can break the record.

STFU! Ronaldo broke a 59 years old record last night.
Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by ThierryJay: 10:06am On Dec 20, 2020
ogbonti:



you are really a kid who knows just Messi and never found time to research the players you compared to Messi above

I use to think Maradona was an averagely good player who only shone at Mexico 86, pulled a fluke at the world cup against England with that lucky dribble and managed to win the world cup until I watched multiple documentaries on Diego Maradona - The attack and assault Diego faced on the field of play without referee protection, If Messi faced 1/10th of it he will be long retired since 2010. These days, ordinary slight body touch a player gets a yellow card or even red card, when Maradona was destroying defenders and scoring amazing goals, a player can only earn a red card if he strikes a blow to your face - every other tackling including pushing, slide tackle from behind, knee hacking, jersey pulling etc were almost always acceptable and the crowd will have to boo and scream for the referee to warn the offending player. IT WAS LIKE WRESTLEMANIA.

SAME GOES FOR PELE - Do you know the RED and YELLOW card was ONLY introduced to the 1970 Mexico World Cup? Which was Pele's last world cup? So how did the likes of Garrincha, Revelino, Eusebio, Zagalo, Pele, Bobby Charlton etc survive merciless tackles? To call Messi or even CR7 the GOAT is an insult to these greats who never got the referee protection that made Messi and CR7 win multiple WPOY awards.

I was one of those who underrated Pele and called it all hype based on the stories I heard of his exploits until I watched hours of his documentary. If Pele could be made a 26 year old again today, with exactly the same ability he had in 1966 - He will be a Ballon D' Or winner over Messi and Ronaldo and Lewandowski. PELE will dribble defenders so smoothly and neatly that they wont even see him to kick or push, and it was so effortless - He is the greatest passer of the ball (same with Maradona) and his freekicks and finishing are terribly amazing !!!! I conceded just last week that PELE was indeed the greatest and Diego is the co-greatest. NO ONE, I REPEAT NO ONE SHOULD EVER COMPARE MESSI WITH PELE OR MARADONA. Messi and CR7 became great by referee protection, not so with Pele and Maradona, they battled opposing defenders kicking and fighting them with the referee turning a blind eye!!!! grin

Kid? I probably started watching
Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by Beverlyjean(f): 10:07am On Dec 20, 2020
bayelsaowei:
he should really recieve sense..they talk with out reasoning well..they should even be ashamed that they are trying to compare ronaldo with messi...messi is younger and has played less matches but still have out paced the ronaldo, even winning 6 balon dor..shame should find ronaldo supporters..


But pele achieved his record with less than over 110 games compared to messi

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Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by Beverlyjean(f): 10:14am On Dec 20, 2020
Mckhala80:
Though i'm a CR7 fan , sentiment aside , messi is amazingly unbeleivable.... Congratz dude. Hopefully , Arteta , koeman and Franc Lampard keep their jobs. GGMU / OGS.

How manyvstrukwrs have played for a club for so long?? When a fantastic striker changes teams , it slows his goal scoring abilities by at least a year ... ronaldo has more club goals despite change teams 3 times...

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Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by chiboy1116: 10:15am On Dec 20, 2020
Dalil8:
There's nothing special about this record, Ronaldo could have shattered this record years ago if he was still at Real.

Mrs Pessi still missed a penalty yesterday lmaoo..

CR7 still remains the G.O.A.T with 774 Goals.
Messi is still the better goal scorer . Lmao better goal per game ratio . Has more assists , more chances created . The greatest of all time .

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Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by Beverlyjean(f): 10:17am On Dec 20, 2020
amamahdaniel:


someone told me you are a fool but I was arguing not knowing you are more than a fool.

Did you know that MESSI has more goals than Ronaldo against England top 6.
MANCHESTER UNITED, MANCHESTER CITY, CHELSEA, ARSENAL, LIVERPOOL AND TOTHEHAM.

without playing in that league compared to Ronaldo than spend more than 3 seasons there.
your foolishness is legendary bro.

Sorry to say ....but u are not intelligent at allllllllll.... so playing against an English team in the CL will b same with scoring English teams in the league playing for an English team, or will barca have joined him in the EPL...u just can't think outside the box that's y u are whr u are today
Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by Maobichek: 10:17am On Dec 20, 2020
ThierryJay:
Lionel Andres Cutticcini Messi, Congratulations on another milestone. You are the Greatest Footballer of All Time. Your status as the GOAT is not really defined by whether you break Pele's goal-scoring record or not. Those are mere statistical aesthetics. Your position at the summit had been long sealed by your incomparable talented displays, impact and all-round abilities demonstrated consistently for over a decade and a half.

You are Messi. You strike fear into the heart of defenders like no other player ever such that they always swarm around you in threes and fours, yet your brilliance still shines through time and time again. If football were to have a face, it would be you. If all footballers were to have an highlights reel of their magical moments on the field, perhaps Pele may have a good 75-minutes show, Maradona/Ronaldo De Lima may perhaps have an hour and a half of true brilliance on display, but yours would outspan these your closest competitors by at least the duration of a full football match.

A record number of the world player of the year is testament to your individual supremacy, which is all that matters in the end.

Shine on King Leo.
. Good morning, you are still trying to compare him to true legends , Messi is good but comparing him to Pele makes him look poor, Pele can't compare himself to Messi, that's absorb OK, Messi should continue comparing himself cos whosoever you want to be like, you imitate and aspire to be like. NB, FIFA, BBC confirmed that Pele is the greatest when it comes to the leather round-object game, thank you.
Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by bayelsaowei(m): 10:17am On Dec 20, 2020
Beverlyjean:


But pele achieved his record with less than over 110 games compared to messi
no wahala..we no argue am..

Pele is the greatest of all time..
Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by Cousin9999: 10:17am On Dec 20, 2020
Pele did it without steroids or professional training his whole life.

Pele >
Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by Beverlyjean(f): 10:18am On Dec 20, 2020
emmyrate1:
the last time I check Ronaldo miss a penalty that was supposed to win juve the game.
Another record broken by Messi which will take a centuries to break. Messi have about 3 centuries record on ground which might not even been broken till eternity. I guess ur Ronaldo don't even have record that can stand for 20yrs without seeing anyone that can break the record.

Ronaldo is the top scorer in the serie a now with 12 goals in 10 games
Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by bayelsaowei(m): 10:20am On Dec 20, 2020
DonCortino:
nothing spectacular about this record. undecided

Messi has made sure no other good striker lasts in Barcelona so that he keeps collecting everything.

it wasnt like that during Pele's time.
kindly share peles all time assist and lets compare..if messi was all about overwhelming other strikers how come he has provided more assist to those same strikers than they've assisted him? Think think!!!

Messi's assist rate is out of the world..messi will create the most assist and still outscore the same people he is assisting..

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Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by Maobichek: 10:25am On Dec 20, 2020
bayelsaowei:
no wahala..we no argue am..

Pele is the greatest of all time..

. No need for all this, Messi can't achieve what Pele did cos world cup remains the world most important tournament and not UEFA champions league. Messi is comparing himself to Pele but Pele didn't compare himself to Messi and will not do that. What Bob Marley is to Reggae is what Pele is to football, thank you.
Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by bayelsaowei(m): 10:27am On Dec 20, 2020
Maobichek:
. No need for all this, Messi can't achieve what Pele did cos world cup remains the world most important tournament and not UEFA champions league. Messi is comparing himself to Pele but Pele didn't compare himself to Messi and will not do that. What Bob Marley is to Reggae is what Pele is to football, thank you.




if its pele I have no wahala..I doubt any player in the future can even win 3 World cups..no way..not achievable..

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Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by Cerebellum: 10:32am On Dec 20, 2020
ThierryJay:
Lionel Andres Cutticcini Messi, Congratulations on another milestone. You are the Greatest Footballer of All Time. Your status as the GOAT is not really defined by whether you break Pele's goal-scoring record or not. Those are mere statistical aesthetics. Your position at the summit had been long sealed by your incomparable talented displays, impact and all-round abilities demonstrated consistently for over a decade and a half.

You are Messi. You strike fear into the heart of defenders like no other player ever such that they always swarm around you in threes and fours, yet your brilliance still shines through time and time again. If football were to have a face, it would be you. If all footballers were to have an highlights reel of their magical moments on the field, perhaps Pele may have a good 75-minutes show, Maradona/Ronaldo De Lima may perhaps have an hour and a half of true brilliance on display, but yours would outspan these your closest competitors by at least the duration of a full football match.

A record number of the world player of the year is testament to your individual supremacy, which is all that matters in the end.

Shine on King Leo.


Lol...lol

Chai!

But Messi can't read all you've written here babagrin

You're just wasting ur timegrin
Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by greensandy: 10:33am On Dec 20, 2020
Cousin9999:
Pele did it without steroids or professional training his whole life.

Pele >

Then that makes all Pele's goal amateurish. Not that a professional Messi has been playing against unprofessional footballers all this while. EOD
Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by Nomorelove: 10:35am On Dec 20, 2020
Dalil8:

Why am I a bastard son of a thousand fathers? God should just take my life please. All my family members are useless and cannot amount to anything. My father is a drunk and my mother smokes weed everyday. I'm also a rapist and demon possessed
Calm down bro... Take it easy
Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by greensandy: 10:35am On Dec 20, 2020
Maobichek:
. No need for all this, Messi can't achieve what Pele did cos world cup remains the world most important tournament and not UEFA champions league. Messi is comparing himself to Pele but Pele didn't compare himself to Messi and will not do that. What Bob Marley is to Reggae is what Pele is to football, thank you.



But very soon Messi will beat Pele to this record. At least that's an achievement and it will forever be so.
Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by ThierryJay: 10:37am On Dec 20, 2020
ogbonti:



you are really a kid who knows just Messi and never found time to research the players you compared to Messi above

I use to think Maradona was an averagely good player who only shone at Mexico 86, pulled a fluke at the world cup against England with that lucky dribble and managed to win the world cup until I watched multiple documentaries on Diego Maradona - The attack and assault Diego faced on the field of play without referee protection, If Messi faced 1/10th of it he will be long retired since 2010. These days, ordinary slight body touch a player gets a yellow card or even red card, when Maradona was destroying defenders and scoring amazing goals, a player can only earn a red card if he strikes a blow to your face - every other tackling including pushing, slide tackle from behind, knee hacking, jersey pulling etc were almost always acceptable and the crowd will have to boo and scream for the referee to warn the offending player. IT WAS LIKE WRESTLEMANIA.

SAME GOES FOR PELE - Do you know the RED and YELLOW card was ONLY introduced to the 1970 Mexico World Cup? Which was Pele's last world cup? So how did the likes of Garrincha, Revelino, Eusebio, Zagalo, Pele, Bobby Charlton etc survive merciless tackles? To call Messi or even CR7 the GOAT is an insult to these greats who never got the referee protection that made Messi and CR7 win multiple WPOY awards.

I was one of those who underrated Pele and called it all hype based on the stories I heard of his exploits until I watched hours of his documentary. If Pele could be made a 26 year old again today, with exactly the same ability he had in 1966 - He will be a Ballon D' Or winner over Messi and Ronaldo and Lewandowski. PELE will dribble defenders so smoothly and neatly that they wont even see him to kick or push, and it was so effortless - He is the greatest passer of the ball (same with Maradona) and his freekicks and finishing are terribly amazing !!!! I conceded just last week that PELE was indeed the greatest and Diego is the co-greatest. NO ONE, I REPEAT NO ONE SHOULD EVER COMPARE MESSI WITH PELE OR MARADONA. Messi and CR7 became great by referee protection, not so with Pele and Maradona, they battled opposing defenders kicking and fighting them with the referee turning a blind eye!!!! grin

Hmm, where do I start from. First I ain't a kid. I probably started watching ball earlier than you since you said you thought Maradona was an average player. At least I had known he was head and shoulders above his peers since 1994.

While you have put up a number of reasonable points in your post, permit me to correct some over exaggerations. First, it is a misconception that the quality of defending is based on the frequency of rash tackles made. In many African countries today, those sort of tackles you described are still common with poor pitches. Yet when these rugged African teams take on a a Manchester City, they'd still get walloped 7-0 with a Raheem Sterling probably scoring a brilliant solo goal amidst the rough tackles.

Elite defending takes more than rough tackling. Until the 1990s when player fitness levels improved due to technological advancements, the level of defending was not as good, as defenders where slower then and typically left more spaces in between. They try to make up for this defect with last gasp rough tackles. I watched many of Maradona's games (recorded tapes) for Napoli. Teams were not parking the bus against him, so most times defenders approach him individually and get rough on him. Messi has faced a whole bus parked defence in over 70 percent of the games he played. Watch Maradonas goal of the century and Messi's similar goal against Getafe. You'd notice that the English defenders were slower and Maradona eliminated them one after the other, but in Messi's goal there were two markers on him at the same time on at least two occasions, so he had to dribble faster than Maradona, to break through.

And while it is true that red and yellow cards were introduced in Mexico 70, players had always been cautioned and sent off long before but by word of mouth from the referee. Placindo Galindo of Peru was the first player to be sent off in a world cup match in 1930. So the card thingy does not imply anything of note in this debate.

Talent will always be talent and will stand out regardless of the era. Personally I believe Messi especially the (2008 - 2013) version will make a mince meat of the sub-par defending of the 60s to the 80s, regardless of the rough tackles. FYI, I hold Pele and Maradona in high esteem and have never underrated them. And I have stated many times here that I consider Messi, Pele and Maradona as equals and nickname them the three GOATs on the basis of their supreme talents.

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Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by Dalil8: 10:39am On Dec 20, 2020
Nomorelove:

I said all that to myself bro... I hate myself

I know.
Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by amamahdaniel(m): 10:40am On Dec 20, 2020
Beverlyjean:


Sorry to say ....but u are not intelligent at allllllllll.... so playing against an English team in the CL will b same with scoring English teams in the league playing for an English team, or will barca have joined him in the EPL...u just can't think outside the box that's y u are whr u are today

Baba you need brain surgery. if he can score against the strongest teams in England, so burnley or fulham he wont score against.
Ronaldo is great no doubt. but try to always make use of your sense when arguing.

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Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by samx4real(m): 10:41am On Dec 20, 2020
jikins:


Lol he doesn't need your respect. You can keep it. He has so much respect already he don tire.





mtchewwww
Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by jikins(m): 10:42am On Dec 20, 2020
samx4real:






mtchewwww

grin grin grin

Truth hurts
Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by Drsmartphilips: 10:47am On Dec 20, 2020
Dalil8:
There's nothing special about this record, Ronaldo could have shattered this record years ago if he was still at Real.

Mrs Pessi still missed a penalty yesterday lmaoo..

CR7 still remains the G.O.A.T with 774 Goals.
why did he not wait at the Madrid
Re: Lionel Messi Equals Pele's Goals Record For One Club With 643 For Catalan Giants by Beverlyjean(f): 10:50am On Dec 20, 2020
amamahdaniel:


Baba you need brain surgery. if he can score against the strongest teams in England, so burnley or fulham he wont score against.
Ronaldo is great no doubt. but try when be using your sense when arguing.

Are u still being foolish... barca had the best team back then in football...let him carry this present barca team and play those English teams again and let him receive the disgrace if his life... scoring English teams while playing for a barca that is not an English team...u think he will score loads of goals against them playing for Chelsea spurs utd or arsenal...even city

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