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| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by DappaD: 1:02am On Dec 24, 2020 |
Jehovah our God is interested in the affairs of humans that's why he has promised us a way out—a better Kingdom, a better Ruler and a means for we to have everlasting life under that Kingdom. Daniel 2:44, Luke 1:31-33, John 3:16 Until that Kingdom is extended to the earth(Matthew 6:10), Jehovah's Witnesses will continue to preach about the Kingdom and will continue to develop a “waiting attitude” for Jehovah our God. ![]() Micah 7:7, Matthew 24:14 enilove: |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by Kobojunkie: 1:07am On Dec 24, 2020 |
enilove:None of them! There is no Covenant between God and America and so whatever glory American gets for itself belongs to America and it's the world. God is not glory-hungry that He desires to receive it from anyone and from anywhere. The policies of the governments of this world are not where God looks to for His glory...He instead gets what is His from who He is. The only people God has a covenant with are the children of Israel, and no other nation or people on this planet can claim to have that position with God according to His Old Covenant. Even then, Israel's government today is not mirrored after God's Law and so is not to the glory of God. God is not glory-hungry that He will feed on any glory that He can get...that is not who God is. |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by enilove(op): 1:15am On Dec 24, 2020 |
DappaD:Since that time has God not been interested in the affairs of this world and wills that a good or obedient person be ruling a nation ?. The book of Hebrew below says God Predestined or officially put in place of authority leaders that are in power : Romans 13:1 KJV Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ORDAINED of God. Just like the time of the kings in old testament . God was interested in the stewardship of the kings as of then . Likewise He is still interested in God's people getting good leaders. When you pray for good leaders , you will get one .But when we don't pray for a good leader , we won't get any. We need to be interested in the affairs of our nation and pray for it's peace and progress . God is willing and ready to deliver this nation if we are doing His will . |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by enilove(op): 1:21am On Dec 24, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:Approval of abortion is good or evil ? |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by DappaD: 1:30am On Dec 24, 2020*. Modified: 3:55pm On Dec 31, 2020 |
enilove:You need to see things from the perspectives of the Scriptures else you might keep getting confused. Jehovah God was the One who installed all of those kings in Israel—right from Saul to David and then to the last king of Judah, Zedekiah. He granted all of them authority to sit on his throne.(1Chronicles 29:23) But what happened when the last king Zedekiah proved unfaithful and refused to heed warning from Jeremiah? Jeremiah 38:14-26 Well, Jehovah spoke through another of his prophets Ezekiel: Remove the turban/crown[from Zedekiah's head]...and it will not belong to anyone until the one[Jesus Christ] who has the legal right comes, and I will give it to him—Ezekiel 21:26-27, Luke 1:31-33 That means right from the time Babylon desolated Jerusalem, there has been no God-approved king here on earth and that's just the facts. Jehovah has already installed the next King in heaven who is his only-begotten Son, Jesus Christ. Psalm 2:6, Revelation 11:15 Romans 13:1 shouldn't confuse you. Those governments have authority only because Jehovah let them have it. When God used Nebuchadnezzar and Cyrus to accomplish his purposes, they were merely his instruments in meting out justice and discipline not that they were approved by God because those men and their nations worshiped false gods. Daniel 3:1 |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by Kobojunkie: 1:34am On Dec 24, 2020 |
enilove:Maybe you need to work more on your comprehension skills a lot more.. enilove: Kobojunkie:God did not call you as His Follower so you can change the world's policies on His behalf or for His glory. Jesus Christ, the expected one, was expected by some in His day to come do just that..deliver His people from the foreign powers of their time, but He instead made it clear to them theat His Kingdom is not of this world - it is only that which you In obedience to His New Covenant that is for the Kingdom of God - that is what He did to glorify His father - what is expected of His followers. All other attempts, supposedly with the belief of glorifying God through the doing of things which have not to do with directly obeying His New covenant, amounts to meaninglessness at the end of the day. |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by enilove(op): 1:49am On Dec 24, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:Why can't you answer this simple question? Is abortion good or bad ? |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by Kobojunkie: 1:55am On Dec 24, 2020 |
enilove:Are you asking In relation to then Old Covenant that exists between God and the Nation of Israel? if so, then Yes. Are you asking in relation to individuals who accept to the New Covenant that is Jesus Christ? if so, then yes! Are you asking in relation to the unbelievers who have been condemned from the beginning by God for their sins? If so, God gave them no Covenant and so no laws for them to abide by. |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by enilove(op): 2:15am On Dec 24, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:''Yes'' that abortion is good or bad , which one . Maybe you meant '' yes'' it is bad . God's laws are for everyone , you believe it or not , it does apply to everyone. You will be judged by it. Abortion is bad . This was what Obama approved but trump cancelled . Abortion is like a murder and shedding of innocent souls . That blood will be upon that nation and would cry against them. That is why good people with the fear of God should rule their nations . That is my point . |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:15am On Dec 24, 2020*. Modified: 5:28am On Dec 24, 2020 |
Before they ate the forbidden fruit Satan don't have any right to rule over the earth but after they ate the forbidden fruit they joined Satan in the rebellion against God and Satan who is more intelligent and powerful than mortal man began ruling the earth. That's what led to the of survival of the fittest! ![]() Before Jesus' coming and after Satan rules the world! Luke 4:6; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19 But because Jesus is smarter Satan's tactics of making people join him in his rebellion can't work on Jesus! He tried to make Jesus feel like eating when God was talking to him {Matthew 4:3} Jesus reminded Satan how his father sustained Moses and Elijah for forty days and forty nights without food! Matthew 4:4; Exodus 34:28; 1Kings 19:8 Satan wants to test Jesus' tolerance by asking him to jump from where he is to his home after all God promised that angels will not allow Jesus get wounded so let's try and see if God will keep his words {Matthew 4:6 compared to Psalms 91:11-12} smart Jesus responded with higher intellect "no nah, why should i doubt my daddy's love?" {Matthew 4:7} This is where most people don't meditate on! God promised that Jesus will rule the enter inhabited earth at a time God will ordain but Satan want Jesus to feel like why must i wait that long to do what's right for God's people? so Satan offered Jesus the opportunity to start ruling immediately if only Jesus will dance to his tune {Luke 4:6} not waiting for God's time {Psalms 110:1} this time around Jesus got annoyed and said "Go away Satan, only my father knows best" {Matthew 4:10} But why did Jesus decline the offer? Is he no more interested in mankind's welfare? Well think of how successful Jesus' rulership will be when Satan, demons and their human agents are still very much around! ![]() What God's word told us is before Jesus can start ruling without disturbance, he must lock Satan and his demons somewhere in a place where they will not be active anymore! {Revelation 20:1-3} But Satan who supposed to be locked up is now the same person offering Jesus the rulership! ![]() So how do you think that's going to work? ![]() Well true Christians (Jehovah's Witnesses) have become wiser than Satan and his demons, we know there's no way anyone can work with Satan and do what is right. Go and ask Pastor Oshibajo what he's experiencing presently in world's politics! May you have PEACE! ![]() enilove: |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:37am On Dec 24, 2020 |
Until God's kingdom comes we are helpless before Satan because he's much more intelligent and powerful than we do. Jesus' coming was to destroy the works of Satan in the sense that all Satan's tactics of ruling us will be unraveled and we can easily know when anyone is under the influence of Satan. For your information, anytime you find someone agitating bitterly and profusely over the way others act or does something is gradually shifting to Satan's side! Remember Satan won Adam and Eve to his side by just one single trick "God has no right to rule over you since you're also intelligent yourselves knowing what's right and wrong" {Genesis 3:1-5} Note how Satan quickly dismissed the consequences of rebellion when Eve brought forward the repercussion of disobedience, Satan immediately said "you guys will not really die" So God's children are to rely on God's time to act not protesting against what God allowed because that's tantamount to saying "God isn't doing the right thing" Satan has laid so much accusations against us If you allow me deal with them~ ©none of them will obey you! ©they will curse you! ©they will blame and ridicule your decisions! ©they will act without waiting (trusting) you! ©they will ignore you and do whatever they like! ©they will like to prove wiser than you! Job 1:9-11 So for Jesus to have said "I do NOTHING out of my own initiative, whatever (God) ask me to do becomes paramount" John 5:19, 30, 8:28 If you truly believe in the son of God you will also think like him! ![]() enilove: |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by oluwatoyosi8755: 7:21am On Dec 24, 2020 |
:Is the educational system not part of government .Why going to school to acquire education , since it is part of the system set up by the world system . |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:07am On Dec 24, 2020 |
NO! Education was never a part of Satan's system or plan. In fact Satan detests education from inception! What Satan did was manipulating things to favor his own thinking. The figurative tree of the knowledge of good and evil planted in the middle of the garden means God has arranged a training program to EDUCATE humans on how to distinguish between right and wrong! Genesis 2:9 compared to Hebrew 5:14 With this arrangement God will continue passing life saving counsel to mankind through Adam, note that all the necessary information in that garden was given to Adam before Eve was created {Genesis 2:15-21} so Adam must be the one who told Eve about the forbidden fruit that's why it was easy for Satan to deceive Eve {1Tiomthy 2:14} as she's not the one who received the instructions directly from God. So God already planned for EDUCATION right from the onset what Satan did was to debunk God's educational arrangement by telling them not to continue with it but to establish their own, so that instead of receiving instructions from God and passing it to their children Adam and Eve will be the sole determinants of whatever will take place under them! Genesis 3:1-5 God sent Jesus to come and pay for the sin that's causing a blockage between man and God, and to restore that educational arrangement. That's why Jesus is called the Wonderful Counselor who will replace Adam. Isaiah 9:6 You'll notice how smart and highly intelligent those taught by Jesus became in the midst of Satan's students {Act 4:13} the Apostles were not eloquent in grammar or the deceptive educational system set up by Satan that's of no benefit! Jeremiah 10:23 compared to Isaiah 48:17-18 God bless you and may you have PEACE! ![]() oluwatoyosi8755: |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by enilove(op): 8:21am On Dec 24, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:Okay , no problem . |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by enilove(op): 8:26am On Dec 24, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:Okay. I would love to see other people's opinion. on this . Why don't you open a new thread about whether Christians should participate in politics or not and let's hear what people will say. Would you do that ? |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:32am On Dec 24, 2020 |
Our father who is in the heavens let your kingdom (government) come let your will take place on the earth as it is in heaven! Matthew 6:9-10 Please let's keep our calm and wait patiently for his promises {Psalms 37:7-11, 34} he will never fail because he knows the best time to act! Habakkuk 2:3 compared to Micah 7:7 God bless you! ![]() enilove: |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:43am On Dec 24, 2020 |
Because they not Christ-Like! They the same wicked people who are saying they Claim and possess Christ but Christ is not in them and He does not affiliate Himself with them. |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by enilove(op): 8:44am On Dec 24, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:Amen , God bless you too . |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:01am On Dec 24, 2020 |
I'm one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! We don't follow the crowd {Exodus 23:1-2 compared to Matthew 7:13-14} so it's not a matter of what the majority vote for! FAITH is the assured expectation of what we're hoping for the evident demonstration of realities even when unbelievers can't see it coming! Hebrew 11:1 We walk by faith and not by sight {2Corinthians 5:7} Satan has always been in control of the majority {1John 5:19} and FAITH itself has always been the possession of few the few! 2Thessalonians 3:2 So if they refuse to accept the publications of my own teachers who am i to teach them? {1Corinthians 4:7} if anyone finds what i'm saying worthwhile and wants to learn, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES in their area are ready to TEACH them {Matthew 28:20} but if not well it's a free world! 1Peter 3:15 God bless you! enilove: |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:18am On Dec 24, 2020 |
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| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by enilove(op): 9:22am On Dec 24, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:I really didn't want to talk about the Christian group we belong to , but since you lay emphasis on '' Jehovah witness '' , I would like to ask you this ; Why did your leaders made predictions about the time the world was going to end , since we read the same Bible ? |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:18am On Dec 24, 2020 |
My sister please don't listen to antagonists, they are everywhere and they just want to deprive you of timely spiritual food from God! JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ORGANIZATION has never mentioned any specific date regarding the end of wickedness! Please think for a moment, if you're a contemporary of Jesus, you saw/heard John the baptist saying "repent for the kingdom of God is at hand" {Matthew 3:2} and after John was arrested and killed Jesus began saying exactly the same thing {Matthew 4:17} and performing great signs, whereas many prophets of God have been telling the Israelites how two prophets will come within the same period, what would you think? Well after Jesus' death and resurrection his friends thought God's Kingdom will come immediately {Act 1:6} Jesus told them that they need not worry themselves about the times and season God's Kingdom will come! {Act 1:7} But his followers keep speaking to people as if it will come in their own time {1Thessalonians 4:16} even with his grey hairs Apostle John got a Revelation from Jesus who has ascended to heaven almost 60 year past, when Jesus said "I AM COMING QUICKLY" Please listen to John's response "AMEN! COME LORD JESUS!" Revelations 22:20 Please tell me do you think John's response shows any sign of doubt? Definitely not! John was still eagerly anticipating the return of his Master, Lord and King with the greatest enthusiasm! Well that's the spirit of those who are eagerly awaiting God's Kingdom, we keep proclaiming it until it's arrival {1Corinthians 11:26} So it's the unbelieving ridiculers that are complaining about what we keep preaching {2Peter 3:3-4} but we know it's not them that's saying all those stuff against us, it's Satan and his demons that's working on them in order that most of them may get tired of hearing about God's Kingdom and turn away from the message! 2Timothy:4:3-4 So don't let their ridicule confuse you, i've heard a lot of negative things about JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES from critics when i was still a Muslim, but today wherever i speak about Jesus and his Kingdom with efficacy and directing my audience to the scriptures most people finds it difficult to believe that i was also preached to and taught by the same JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Many felt i was one of the founders, can you believe that i got baptized as one of them just recently? Well that's the power of God's holy spirit, he promised that this helper will teach me how to answer when i'm questioned regarding my faith {Luke 12:12} and keep reminding me the fitting scriptures to back what the spirit asked me to say in reply! John 14:26 May you have PEACE! ![]() enilove: |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by DappaD: 10:31am On Dec 24, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:Really brother? You wey I feel say you be elder or at least MS(I dey whine you oo) ![]() Because your comments on NL are too mature for a newly baptized Witness unless you studied for a very long time. ![]() In any case, weldone my brother. ![]() |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:46am On Dec 24, 2020 |
Well that's because i've always had the feeling that something is missing somewhere in religion, so whenever i come in contact with religionists who wants to share their thoughts i pay rapt attention {Proverbs 2:2} when i met JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES everything changed from searching to adapting, now i've found what i was looking for but it's difficult for me to adapt {Colossians 3:9} that's what took me over two decades to put on New Personality! Ephesians 4:24 So i knew the true disciples of Jesus have found me as a lost sheep long ago {Matthew 10:6; 15:24} but it took me time to make the necessary changes {Luke 9:62} for the holy spirit to come and start making use of me in God's work! Each time i remember all these i always say to you guys "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, thank you for locating me" ![]() DappaD: |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by enilove(op): 10:57am On Dec 24, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:I am a man not a woman . There were publications of the Watch Tower Society regarding the end times in 1799 , 1874, 1878, 1881 , 1914 , 1918 ,1925 and 1975 . These are known facts . Are you denying these failed prophecies were never given by your organisation and published for people to see ? |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by DappaD: 11:34am On Dec 24, 2020*. Modified: 11:58am On Dec 24, 2020 |
enilove:What do you mean by the bolded? “Prophecies” indicates that something new was foretold which is out of the boundaries of the Scriptures. Jehovah's Witnesses believe only the 66Books of the Bible are inspired of God so everything we need to know about our days and the future is recorded within the Scriptures. 1Corinthians 13:8-10 Jehovah's Witnesses never said Armageddon would come in the year 1975 or any other earlier year unless you can bring up the publication that said so. What was truly said concerning 1975 was correct and that the year would mark 6,000years[due to accurate Bible chronology found in the book of Daniel] since mankind was created and some began to speculate that the end would come in that year. That's exactly what critics do—they try to take things out of context to justify them leaving Jehovah's organization. Those who criticize Jehovah's Witnesses always forget that the anointed and inspired apostles made similar mistakes concerning when God's Kingdom would come. Luke 19:11, 24:21; Acts 1:6-7 The year 1914 is correct because that was the year God's Kingdom began ruling with Jesus as King in heaven. Revelation 11:15 Bible chronology from Daniel chapter 4 and world events show that Revelation 12:7-9 took place in that year and shortly after that, Matthew 24:3-14, Luke 21:10-11, Revelation 6:2-8,12:12 began to unfold right before our eyes. But according to Matthew 24:37-39, many people would be apathetic to the signs that are marking the times of the end just like in the days of Noah. Jesus told his disciples to “Keep awake and on the watch so that the day[Armageddon] would not come upon them like a snare”—Matthew 24:42, Luke 21:34-36 And that's what Jehovah's Witnesses have been doing all these while. They did not invent any new prophecy contrary to what you've been told. So all what we've been doing is trying to understand the events that would happen before Armageddon as foretold in the Bible. Proverbs 4:18 Armageddon will come soon in the future according to Revelation 16:14-16 so that's what we're eagerly awaiting so that we can be ushered into the new world. Revelation 7:9-14,21:1-5 |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:02pm On Dec 24, 2020 |
What you meant to say is "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES preaching and teaching was intensive in those years as their publications were emphatic about the end of the world" Just try to post one publication and the date JWs mentioned in it {Act 1:6-7} i told you i've been through this countless times. Perhaps i need to tell you that i worked with the military intelligence agency before i became one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, there is a clear difference between someone disturbing you with messages and the person who specifically mentioned a DATE regarding when the message will take effect nah! ![]() enilove: |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by donnie(m): 12:05pm On Dec 24, 2020 |
It's given to the Children of ISOLELE (Israel) to be the Light and not the pagans you call Christians. |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by Eviana(f): 12:23pm On Dec 24, 2020*. Modified: 12:54pm On Dec 24, 2020 |
enilove:Yes sir....I do. Good morning I addressed my thoughts towards Christians and our election on my thread: https://www.nairaland.com/6244948/sincere-christians-place-eyes-back#95871569 I will say that it would be the better choice of the two to lean towards a candidate that more accurately reflects one's views. However, there is a very slippery slope to walk when church and state ARE NOT separated....which should have been the case...from the beginning. Some aspects of government and "religion" just aren't gonna comfortably co-exist. |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:40pm On Dec 24, 2020 |
Satan is a genius and highly intelligent operator! He dubiously promoted DEMOCRACY with America as it's pioneer, this form of government will work best for Satan's schemes. WHY? It's the government of the state by the opinions of the majority! ![]() Well there has never been a time on this planet when right thinking people are up to 1% of earth's population. Psalms 14:3 So who are those that will choose the person to rule? God fearing citizens or miscreants? That's what Jesus' model prayer can mean for you! Matthew 6:9-10 ![]() |
| Re: Why Are Christians Examples OF Darkness Instead Of Light? by donnie(m): 1:35pm On Dec 24, 2020 |
White Jesus is the cause. The TRUE children of Israel have been made to follow an idol created by Rome. Rome/ Christianity is mystery BABYLON, with Satan at the head. |
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