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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 12:31pm On Dec 26, 2020
Raaven

Chkil

I wonder how the SU-57 stacks up against the F-35 and F-22?

In sheer numbers the F-35 is better.

It's difficult to say what the avionics suite can do for the SU-57 as most of that information is classified.

Even the SU-57 multi function display is classified.

So, what's your opinion

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 12:40pm On Dec 26, 2020
Aircrafts procured by this current administration for the Nigerian Air Force

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by shadowprimezero: 1:27pm On Dec 26, 2020
kabe1:
Aircrafts procured by this current administration for the Nigerian Air Force
EC-135's and AW-101's missing...
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by bidexiii: 1:29pm On Dec 26, 2020
kabe1:
Raaven

Chkil

I wonder how the SU-57 stacks up against the F-35 and F-22?

In sheer numbers the F-35 is better.

It's difficult to say what the avionics suite can do for the SU-57 as most of that information is classified.

Even the SU-57 multi function display is classified.

So, what's your opinion
For me the the SU-57 is a dangerous aircraft like the F35 and F22 but it lags behind in stealth factor which is a very important factor in a 5th gen aircraft.
But in other factors the SU57 will compete well in terms of dog fight, aerobatics, BVRM, avionics, aircraft engine and air superiority. Noe considering how cheap the SU57 his and formidable it his, I'll go to it !
We can't can't tell too much about most stuffs on both aircraft has most technology, especially avionics are classified.


https://aviatia.net/f-35-lightning-ii-vs-sukhoi-pak-fa/
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 1:40pm On Dec 26, 2020
shadowprimezero:
EC-135's and AW-101's missing...
those ones were handed over
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 2:48pm On Dec 26, 2020
bidexiii:
For me the the SU-57 is a dangerous aircraft like the F35 and F22 but it lags behind in stealth factor which is a very important factor in a 5th gen aircraft.
But in other factors the SU57 will compete well in terms of dog fight, aerobatics, BVRM, avionics, aircraft engine and air superiority. Noe considering how cheap the SU57 his and formidable it his, I'll go to it !
We can't can't tell too much about most stuffs on both aircraft has most technology, especially avionics are classified.


https://aviatia.net/f-35-lightning-ii-vs-sukhoi-pak-fa/
Thanks for the link.

I don't think it lags behind it stealth. What's the determining factor for a stealth fighter, what is the RCS of the SU-57, nobody knows.

I agree with you on every other thing except this above.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jteku(m): 3:27pm On Dec 26, 2020
NAF Aircrafts

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kemicalreact: 3:56pm On Dec 26, 2020
kabe1:
First serial SU-57 5th Gen fighter jet
What a beauty? kiss kiss
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by AskiaHarem(m): 1:50am On Dec 27, 2020
kemicalreact:
What a beauty? kiss kiss
The worlds most elusive jet. cheesy
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by AskiaHarem(m): 1:54am On Dec 27, 2020
kabe1:
Thanks for the link.

I don't think it lags behind it stealth. What's the determining factor for a stealth fighter, what is the RCS of the SU-57, nobody knows.

I agree with you on every other thing except this above.
The Stealth capabilities of the SU-57 are so good even though Russian Government doesn't know where they are. We all see F35s everywhere but struggle to find a single SU-57. grin grin grin
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:24am On Dec 27, 2020
SU-57 5th Generation stealth fighter jet

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Raaven: 12:43pm On Dec 27, 2020
kabe1:
Raaven

Chkil

I wonder how the SU-57 stacks up against the F-35 and F-22?

In sheer numbers the F-35 is better.

It's difficult to say what the avionics suite can do for the SU-57 as most of that information is classified.

Even the SU-57 multi function display is classified.

So, what's your opinion
the Su-57 project is not ready yet . they are still working on its AESA radar , the stealth coating and glass canopy are not finished . and the new engines are not ready and need to be hidden with stealth coating too .

add that russian fighters doctrine is not the same with US air force doctrine .

add that many caracteristics are classified for both jets .


so , for my self i will wait the final version of su 57 . to have an opinion on the subject.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Raaven: 3:46pm On Dec 27, 2020
Navistar’s MaxxPro Recovery Vehicle . algerian army

pic 3 ( not in algeria)

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Raaven: 3:50pm On Dec 27, 2020
opening roads this days . snow fall . algeria

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Raaven: 3:58pm On Dec 27, 2020
L-410 Turbolet tunisian AF

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Raaven: 4:08pm On Dec 27, 2020
FREMM fregate delivry . egyptian navy

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kemicalreact: 4:47pm On Dec 27, 2020
Egypt lasan embarassed
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Raaven: 5:32pm On Dec 27, 2020
Beechcraft 1900 HISAR/MMSA , ISR algerian AF

6 in service

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 5:53pm On Dec 27, 2020
Raaven:
Beechcraft 1900 HISAR/MMSA , ISR algerian AF

6 in service
insane caps
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by pacino26(m): 7:03pm On Dec 27, 2020
Raaven:
the Su-57 project is not ready yet . they are still working on its AESA radar , the stealth coating and glass canopy are not finished . and the new engines are not ready and need to be hidden with stealth coating too .

add that russian fighters doctrine is not the same with US air force doctrine .

add that many caracteristics are classified for both jets .


so , for my self i will wait the final version of su 57 . to have an opinion on the subject.
The final version will be a 6th Gen fighter jet as proposed by both Sukhoi and MIG. I have been following close updates on the development of this fighter jet and I must confess the Russians are taking their time with it.

The SU-57 is going to be the building platform for the 6th Gen fighters. Integration with their stealth Sukhoi S-70 Okhotnik-B was seamless during test flights and what we are going to be seeing on the future is the SU-57 commanding a series of drones in combat.

It's a new era and the Russians are doing well in comparison with the US with a very deep military budget.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by AskiaHarem(m): 7:54pm On Dec 27, 2020
pacino26:
The final version will be a 6th Gen fighter jet as proposed by both Sukhoi and MIG. I have been following close updates on the development of this fighter jet and I must confess the Russians are taking their time with it.

The SU-57 is going to be the building platform for the 6th Gen fighters. Integration with their stealth Sukhoi S-70 Okhotnik-B was seamless during test flights and what we are going to be seeing on the future is the SU-57 commanding a series of drones in combat.

It's a new era and the Russians are doing well in comparison with the US with a very deep military budget.
Why did India drop out of the project complaining of its shortcomings in many of it's parameters then?
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by pacino26(m): 10:49pm On Dec 27, 2020
AskiaHarem:
Why did India drop out of the project complaining of its shortcomings in many of it's parameters then?
I think there is a lot the Russians don't want to share at this stage. Their withdrawal caused some setbacks in funding but with 76 SU-57 and 5 B-Hunters, Russia already have their airspace defended. Orders are coming in but I think it will be for other variants of the craft. Trust issues eh.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by RegalBeast: 11:43pm On Dec 27, 2020
Look at the Algeria setting. Clean. Gosh am I the only one who notices these details?....okay wait I'm coming, Nigeria cool
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by AskiaHarem(m): 1:53am On Dec 28, 2020
pacino26:
I think there is a lot the Russians don't want to share at this stage. Their withdrawal caused some setbacks in funding but with 76 SU-57 and 5 B-Hunters, Russia already have their airspace defended. Orders are coming in but I think it will be for other variants of the craft. Trust issues eh.
I googled it and all I found where 10-12 confirmed SU-57 Fighters.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by AskiaHarem(m): 2:12am On Dec 28, 2020
Last Night I had a dream that Nigeria replaced India and helped fund the Su57, Mig35, MBT Terminator, and T-14 programs and dozens of Green Varieties of these beautiful beasts where on there way to Nigeria. It was such a wonderful Dream. cheesy

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by pacino26(m): 2:58am On Dec 28, 2020
AskiaHarem:
Last Night I had a dream that Nigeria replaced India and helped fund the Su57, Mig35, MBT Terminator, and T-14 programs and dozens of Green Varieties of these beautiful beasts where on there way to Nigeria. It was such a wonderful Dream. cheesy
This is very shocking, please continue the sleep.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by lebuhsi(m): 3:11am On Dec 28, 2020
AskiaHarem:
Last Night I had a dream that Nigeria replaced India and helped fund the Su57, Mig35, MBT Terminator, and T-14 programs and dozens of Green Varieties of these beautiful beasts where on there way to Nigeria. It was such a wonderful Dream. cheesy

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by fachfouch: 3:42am On Dec 28, 2020
Tunisian Police special forces BAT
training with Civil protection team

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by LTGEN: 4:53am On Dec 29, 2020
[quote author=lebuhsi post=97484723][/quote]Careful now sometimes unrealistic Dreams come true .
Take a look at Algeria today :
Twenty Years ago they were one of the weakest Countries in Africa .
Today they are arguably the Strongest.
What We laugh and mock today , could become deadly serious tomorrow.
Iron will.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:11am On Dec 29, 2020
SU-57 mini documentary report.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcTg0PsgtsU
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Raaven:
LTGEN:
Careful now sometimes unrealistic Dreams come true .
Take a look at Algeria today :
Twenty Years ago they were one of the weakest Countries in Africa .
Today they are arguably the Strongest.
What We laugh and mock today , could become deadly serious tomorrow.
Iron will.
a bit of exaggeration , no ? there was internal terrorism yes , economic crisis yes . but for regular army i dont think it was one of the weakest in africa . even now days i dont think a lot of africcan armies have better equipments


for algerian army in the end of 90's they got in service :

600 T72
300 T62
300 T55
400 BMP2
700 BMP1
800 BTR-60PB/PBK
250 BTR-80
200 OT-64C
60 to 75 2S3M1self-propelled gun
146 to 160 Gvozdika 2S1 self-propelled howitzer
48 BM-21 Grad
and many other equipments.

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algerian air force got in the end of 90's :

24 Mig 25 ,
35 sukhoi 24 ,
65 MiG-23BN
more than 100 mig 21
18 C130 H
12 ilyshin-76TD/MD and 6 ilyshin-78
40 mi 24
80 to 100 mi 17


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navy got in the end of 90'th :

2 kilos and 2 romeo submarines ,
2 landing ships ,
3 Koni-class frigates ,
3 Nanuchka-class corvettes ,
8 Osa II class missile boats ,
20 other patrol boats .
3 Kamov -32T/C


for air defense :

S-125 Neva/Pechora
2K12 Kub [SA-6 Gainful]
48 SA-8B Gecko
S-75 Dvina [SA-2 Guideline]
ZSU-23-4 ect...
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jteku(m): 1:31pm On Dec 29, 2020
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