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CHoccolaTE:
She isn't an atheist though...

She's agnostic. That's as close as being an atheist as it gets. Most agnostics are really just atheist that don't like the label 'atheist' and how the society sees atheists...they would rather be called agnostics.

Thank you!

leadzeal:
You are in the right way.. the whole answer lies within you. Wish you luck in your spiritual journey

[quote author=georgeakins post=97638594]That is one thing I don't like. There are many parishioners who would need that assistance.















You're right though. But this man's condition was quite pathetic. He got retrenched from Nigerian brewery (NBL) and couldn't fend for his family any longer needless to say pay his rent, and he was ejected from his house.
His two grown daughters dived into prostitution, though he is picking up now.

For being sensitive enough to the man's plight at that moment, I give Catholic Church the accolade.

2cribz:
I dropped out from catholic church in 2010.
Its a coven,withcraft,they are demonic,rev father sexing all the sisters,cumin in them,rev fsther smokes in pub shortly after mass u go dey perceive ciga,they drink beer openly during harvest and bazaar,yhere is nothing anu bastard catholic will tellme again. They turn the bible upside down and they dont use bible,its forbidden. All they do is to rewrie and modify bible verses inside one useless bulletin. Catholics worship mary and idolise her a lot,to them jesus christ is secondary. Mary is first. Dumb fools hell bound.. hail mary full of grace,tha lord is with u,i can recite all they stupid useless boring prayers. Idols and withches full catholic church

Are witches and ogboni people not attending pentecostal churches?

tobechi20:
She is a humanist like Mubarak Bala who was arrested for blacksphemy


Religion stains whatever it touches. Religion has caused division among senior advocate of Nigeria. Ignoring the problem of religion in this country never manages to push the problem away. Ignoring the problem often compounds the problem until it grows into a mountain .

. An average Christian wishes  everyone is a Christian. An average Muslim wishes everyone becomes a Muslim. Each tries to project his desire to the other. Whenever a Muslim is in power, Christians fear he is on a mission to islamise the country.  Whenever a Christian becomes president, Muslims fear the same.This fear makes it difficult for them to cooperate amicably . Christian trust Christian leaders, Muslims trust Muslim leaders.


Our education system is fueling this saperation.  From primary school, children learn mathematics, English language, Basic science and other languages together. But when it comes to religious studies, Christians are divided from Muslims. This continues until the child finishes secondary school. The school saperates the children as kids and expect them to miraculously work together as adults.

The academia should develop a general religious knowledge curriculum. At an early age, children ought to be introduced to all form of religion outside the religion of their parents. A growing child should have basic knowledge of Christianity, Islam, African Traditional Religion, Buddhism etc.  Limiting him to one knowledge alone create a narrow mind and makes him difficult to tolerate and work with another Religion for which he never knew existed. When we delve into other belief, we become intrigued by the similarities. We become more accepting .


Christian should not wish everyone were a Christian. If everyone thinks alike, the world would be bored. God created us different for a reason . Muslim should wish every Christian develop a greater understanding and acceptance of Islam while remaining firmly within their own Religion.


https://tobechispeaks./2020/09/08/the-rise-of-religious-rebels-in-the-north/

You are a very smart dude. I rarely spend time on NL. Are you on twitter? Drop your handle if you are. Would love to follow you.

Ugandatales:
She's agnostic. That's as close as being an atheist as it gets. Most agnostics are really just atheist that don't like the label 'atheist' and how the society sees atheists...they would rather be called agnostics.

Doesn't mean she's not agnostic in the true sense of the word.

sunnybobonwa:
Why I stopped attending Catholic churches in Nigeria - Chimamanda Adichie



https://lifestyle.thecable.ng/chimamanda-why-i-stopped-attending-catholic-churches-in-nigeria/

This OP sef, you have a personal agenda and it's quite unfortunate.

It was a 1 hr:30 minutes long interview where she talked about so many other things like art, music, movies, books etc and this was only what you could pick out just to drive a controversial narrative.

Nawa for you oo.

tobechi20:
She is a humanist like Mubarak Bala who was arrested for blacksphemy


Religion stains whatever it touches. Religion has caused division among senior advocate of Nigeria. Ignoring the problem of religion in this country never manages to push the problem away. Ignoring the problem often compounds the problem until it grows into a mountain .

. An average Christian wishes  everyone is a Christian. An average Muslim wishes everyone becomes a Muslim. Each tries to project his desire to the other. Whenever a Muslim is in power, Christians fear he is on a mission to islamise the country.  Whenever a Christian becomes president, Muslims fear the same.This fear makes it difficult for them to cooperate amicably . Christian trust Christian leaders, Muslims trust Muslim leaders.


Our education system is fueling this saperation.  From primary school, children learn mathematics, English language, Basic science and other languages together. But when it comes to religious studies, Christians are divided from Muslims. This continues until the child finishes secondary school. The school saperates the children as kids and expect them to miraculously work together as adults.

The academia should develop a general religious knowledge curriculum. At an early age, children ought to be introduced to all form of religion outside the religion of their parents. A growing child should have basic knowledge of Christianity, Islam, African Traditional Religion, Buddhism etc.  Limiting him to one knowledge alone create a narrow mind and makes him difficult to tolerate and work with another Religion for which he never knew existed. When we delve into other belief, we become intrigued by the similarities. We become more accepting .


Christian should not wish everyone were a Christian. If everyone thinks alike, the world would be bored. God created us different for a reason . Muslim should wish every Christian develop a greater understanding and acceptance of Islam while remaining firmly within their own Religion.


https://tobechispeaks./2020/09/08/the-rise-of-religious-rebels-in-the-north/

Religious studies for kids is Child Abuse

=ethicallyright

Kambili and the handsome priest.

That book made me fall in love with her work. I also love how she uses uncommon but rich meaningful Igbo names for her characters but I don't agree with her feminist agenda.

This girl or lady is not a born again christian. No church force you to do something but through your heart. This girl or lady i was thinking she Has made it in life makes no sense of reason she's not going to the church.

Her reasons are quite flimsy. The truth is that exposure and education displaces the religious ethos in a person. In Europe few people go to church among which is mainly elderly people. And America too, religion is not taken too serious by many. So acquiring these orientations and the western education that floods your brain with anti religious theories, you may just not attend church again.
When I came back from Europe, I used to laugh at preachers each time I go to church. Everything looked stupid to me! But thank God, I realised its not logic; it is more of spiritism and God is not man and can't be mocked.
Things of the spirit is alien to the canal minded man. At times it is perceives as stupid to the mortal flesh; but the spirit connotation is highly sane.

modaink333:
Lies from the pit of hell.

She don't because Catholic Church especially in Nigeria is strongly against Feminist and Feminism.
....look at efulefu saying when she finds a progressive Catholic Church outside the country, she will attend...
Like the basilica in Rome and France I guess...

So the progressive Catholic Churches just sprang out from the tin air i guess?

Please, who is supplying weed for this feminist?

In Catholic, It's a tradition for "communicants" not all attendees to fast before mass due to the reception of the Holy Eucharistic, except for the sick and elderly. Thats what this feminist see as a problem...shes just a pergan in disguise, she absolutely knows nothing about the faith, norms and tradition of the Catholic Church. even if am not to partake in the reception of the Holy Eucharistic, I find it difficult to eat before going to mass.

Book no dey again to write, na chasing clout now be her priority

Uncle calm down.
Let’s face it, mass these days are no longer spiritually uplifting, the number of offerings for all kinds of things is alarming, and one wonders where all the donations go to.
Apart from the early morning masses, every other mass takes up to 4-5 hours, with 70% of the time dedicated to fundraising or thanksgiving.
It has to change a bit to allow the essence of religion seep in.

Every great mind usually have issues with church and religion generally.

Church, regardless of the denomination, is business. If u are not flexing church money doesn't mean others are not.

This is a stupid lie
This woman keeps spewing crap and people keep quiet because of her books
While projects actually go on in the church it's not regularly that people are asked to donate
Infact excluding bazaars and buildings nobody seeks for money in the church
If she wan leave church nobody hold am

modaink333:
Lies from the pit of hell.

She don't because Catholic Church especially in Nigeria is strongly against Feminist and Feminism.
....look at efulefu saying when she finds a progressive Catholic Church outside the country, she will attend...
Like the basilica in Rome and France I guess...

So the progressive Catholic Churches just sprang out from the tin air i guess?

Please, who is supplying weed for this feminist?

In Catholic, It's a tradition for "communicants" not all attendees to fast before mass due to the reception of the Holy Eucharistic, except for the sick and elderly. Thats what this feminist see as a problem...shes just a pergan in disguise, she absolutely knows nothing about the faith, norms and tradition of the Catholic Church. even if am not to partake in the reception of the Holy Eucharistic, I find it difficult to eat before going to mass.

Book no dey again to write, na chasing clout now be her priority

Barman
1 crate for bros

This woman is super, super correct, this is the same thing that chased me from Catholic, though I am still a Catholic inside.
Especially in Igbo land.
If they can change from that habits of conducting mass before all this fund raising and all these other other activities.

ImmaculateJOE:
She is very correct..

My own is that the Bishops and Priests live large and drive exorbitant cars while the congregate starve..

I'm a die-hard Catholic tho.

You are a mumu man.

You no wan make them enjoy but you wan fvck, marry, born etc and you know say dem no go enjoy all these things.

LoL, somebody for her village don oppress her with one donation wey dwarf her own.

She may be the most popular in her village but she is definitely not the richest.

When you compare Catholic Church to others in term of request for donations etc, you will know that catholic dey nice.

You can even sit comfortably even don't have offering money in Catholic Church but in some, people do miss service because they don't have offering money.

She is right... The priests in Nigeria are mean and the church only serves the rich

Alexaonfleek:

Spiritual Level kor
You are looking for church where they will be making noise and shouting holy ghost fire
Sorry we don't do that here.

Yes Catholic church is too dull with their procedures they use in holding missal, why should you be going to church without bible, why should you be in a church without praying hot prayers,(only prayer of the faithful) or even singing worship for long, why should you be in church without reading the word of God yourself, so many verses in the bible that I dont know about when I was a Catholic, witches and occult men and women can enter catholic church and do what they want to do cause that place is cold, no hot fire to pursue them, Abeg I dont regret leaving there, I like the noise of my new church, let me be shouting the holy ghost fire, is it your holyghost fire? demons have ear problems that why you have to shout for them to go.

lol from fire to frying pan

Nuttella:
Yes Catholic church is too dull with their procedures they use in holding missal, why should you be going to church without bible, why should you be in a church without praying hot prayers,(only prayer of the faithful) or even singing worship for long, why should you be in church without reading the word of God yourself, so many verses in the bible that I dont know about when I was a Catholic, witches and occult men and women can enter catholic church and do what they want to do cause that place is cold, no hot fire to pursue them, Abeg I dont regret leaving there, I like the noise of my new church, let me be shouting the holy ghost fire, is it your holyghost fire? demons have ear problems that why you have to shout for them to go.

it becomes dangerous when you dwell in mysticism, because this is where it becomes vague, and people inject anything into it, when you are talking about the spirit, don't make it sound mystic, it based on understanding the bible, it based on principles, that it should be fulfilled, because you are walking closely with our creator.

Snakedoctor1:
Her reasons are quite flimsy. The truth is that exposure and education displaces the religious ethos in a person. In Europe few people go to church among which is mainly elderly people. And America too, religion is not taken too serious by many. So acquiring these orientations and the western education that floods your brain with anti religious theories, you may just not attend church again.
When I came back from Europe, I used to laugh at preachers each time I go to church. Everything looked stupid to me! But thank God, I realised its not logic; it is more of spiritism and God is not man and can't be mocked.
Things of the spirit is alien to the canal minded man. At times it is perceives as stupid to the mortal flesh; but the spirit connotation is highly sane.

did the early Christians pray to any saint for intercession

DiamondJude:
First and very importantly there is no where in the Catholic doctrine that says it's a most to pray through Mary or the saint's. Though the Church encourages devotion to Mary and the saints.

Agreed the saints and our mother Mary isn't omnipresent but I'm sure you will agree that Mary and all the saints are with God in heaven and there is nothing wrong in God sharing His nature and qualities with them and even when needed He can give them that ability to hear prayers of the people directed through them.

In revelation 8: 4 the Bible tells us that
And the smoke of the incense, which came with the prayers of the saints, ascended up before God out of the angel's hand.

This is to show that our prayers are taken up to God, God is Holy and our prayers are often filled with selfishness and need's to be purified before getting to God, so angels do that work and I'm sure the saint's aren't idle in heaven sipping Champagne, they partake in the ministry of heaven too just like the angels, if the angels can offer our prayers to God so too can Mary and the saints.

The book of Revelation shows the saints worshipping God, singing hymns, playing instruments, making requests to Christ to avenge their martyrdom, and offering prayers for the saints on earth (Rev. 4:10, 5:8, 6:9-11).


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The Bible Supports Praying to the Saint
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Most “Bible-believing” Christians object to the Catholic practice of praying to the saints. These critics worry that Catholics will go to hell for offending God with a neo-pagan system of worship. They have four main criticisms of the custom, all of which they push forward vigorously.

First, they accuse Catholics of worshipping Mary and the other saints. This violates the first commandment: “You shall not have any other gods before me” (Ex. 20:3).

Additional proof that Catholics worship the saints is that they make statues of them, in violation of the next commandment: “You shall not make for yourself an idol or any image which is in the heavens above or on the earth below or in the waters which are under the earth; you shall not bow down and serve them because I am the Lord your God” (Ex. 20:4-5). Catholics make statues of the saints whom they worship, thereby committing the double sin of polytheism and idolatry.

The second objection to praying to the saints is that, even if Catholics do not worship the saints, they are at least calling upon the spirits of the dead. Scripture explicitly forbids conjuring the dead in many passages:


“Do not turn to mediums and familiar spirits; do not seek defilement among them” (Lev. 19:31). “The soul who turns to mediums and to familiar spirits to go whoring after them, I will set my face against that soul and cut him off from the midst of his people” (Lev. 20:6). “The man or the woman who becomes a medium or a familiar spirit will surely die; they will cast stones at them; their blood will be on themselves” (Lev. 20:27). “Let there not be found among you one who makes his son or his daughter pass through fire, a diviner of divinations, an occultist, a charmer, an enchanter, one who casts spells, or one who questions mediums or familiar spirits, or one who seeks the dead” (Deut. 18:10-11). Since the saints are all dead, no one is allowed to consult them without breaking these biblical laws.

A third objection is that there is only one mediator with the Father, Jesus Christ. “For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, a man, Jesus Christ, who has given himself as a ransom for all, the testimony in its own time” (1 Tim. 2:5-6). Jesus Christ is fully satisfactory as the mediator between sinners and God. No one should ever ask the saints for intercession.

A fourth objection is that the Bible does not instruct Christians to honor the saints, seek their intercession, or keep their relics. Without any biblical injunction to perform these things, a Christian risks displeasing God.

The Catholic Church always has taught that a Christian can worship only God, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. No creature, no matter how good or beautiful–no angel, no saint, not even the Virgin Mary–deserves adoration.

This is the teaching of the creeds (Apostles’ Creed: “I believe in one God”; Nicene Creed: “We believe in one God”) and the catechisms (Baltimore Catechism, question 199: “By the first commandment we are commanded to offer to God alone the supreme worship that is due him”) and the Church councils (Nicaea, in 325; Rome in 382; Toledo in 675; Lateran IV in 1215; Lyons in 1274; Florence in 1442; Trent from 1545-1563; Vatican I from 1869-1870).

The Catholic Church condemns polytheism and idolatry alike. Pope Dionysius condemned the division of the one God into three gods, for there can be only one God, not three (Letter to Dionysius of Alexandria, A.D. 260). Pope Damasus I condemned the worship of other gods, angels, or archangels, even when God gave them the name of “god” in the Bible (Tome of Damasus, approved at the Council of Rome, 382).

John Damascene’s Apologetic Sermons Against Those Who Reject Sacred Images gives an authentic presentation of the Catholic attitude towards statues and pictures of Mary and the saints: “If we were making images of men and thought them gods and adored them as gods, certainly we would be impious. But we do not do any of these things.”

The Baltimore Catechism, question 223, confirms this by teaching: “We do not pray to the crucifix or to the images and relics of the saints, but to the persons they represent.”

Catholic doctrine absolutely rejects the worship of anyone but God and rejects all worship of statues, whether of Christ or the saints. What the Church does allow is praying to the saints in order to ask for their intercession with the one true God. The Church also allows one to make statues to remind a person of Christ or the saint:

“Further, the images of Christ, of the Virgin Mother of God, and of the other saints are to be kept with honor in places of worship especially; and to them due honor and veneration is to be paid–not because it is believed that there is any divinity or power intrinsic to them for which they are reverenced, nor because it is from them that something is sought, nor that a blind trust is to be attached to images as it once was by the Gentiles who placed their hope in idols (Ps. 135:15ff); but because the honor which is shown to them is referred to the prototypes which they represent.

“Thus it follows that through these images, which we kiss and before which we kneel and uncover our heads, we are adoring Christ and venerating the saints whose likenesses these images bear” (Council of Trent, Session XXV, Decree 2).

This mirrors the Old Testament attitude. Soon after they received the commandment prohibiting the making of images for worship, the Israelites were told by the Lord to “make two cherubim of beaten gold; you will make them for the two ends of the covering [of the Ark of the Covenant]” (Ex. 25:18). After many Israelites suffered punishment in the form of snakebite, at the Lord’s instruction “Moses made the bronze serpent and he set it upon a pole, and it happened that if a serpent bit a man, and he looked to the bronze serpent, he lived” (Num. 21:9).

The gold cherubim and the bronze serpent were not objects of worship. The cherubim symbolized the presence of God’s angels at the Ark of the Covenant, and the bronze serpent was God’s means of healing the people of poisonous snakebite. So too do Catholics make statues to represent the presence of the saints and angels in churches, homes, and elsewhere.

The Bible teaches that the attempt to contact the dead through seances and mediums is a serious sin. The Catholic Church, being a Bible-believing Church (actually, of course, it’s more than that–the Catholic Church is the one and only Bible-writing Church), condemns all forms of superstition and conjuring the dead.

The Baltimore Catechism explains the seriousness of the sin of superstition: “Superstition is by its nature a mortal sin, but it may be venial either when the matter is slight or when there is a lack of full consent to the act” (question 212).

When the Catholic Church encourages devotion and prayer to the saints, in no way does it intend for its members to practice some form of superstition. Never does the Church instruct the faithful to conjure the spirits of the saints to carry on some two-way communication. There are no seances that try to make them appear, speak messages, tap tables, or anything of the sort.

The faith of the Church is that the saints are not really dead, but are fully alive in Jesus Christ, who is life itself (John 11:25; 14:6) and the bread of life who bestows life on all who eat his flesh and drink his blood (John 6:35, 48, 51, 53-56). The saints are alive in heaven because of the life they have received through their faith in Christ Jesus and through their eating of his body and blood.

The book of Revelation shows the saints worshipping God, singing hymns, playing instruments, making requests to Christ to avenge their martyrdom, and offering prayers for the saints on earth (Rev. 4:10, 5:8, 6:9-11).

Because they are alive, we believe that we can go to them to intercede for us with God. We do not need to see apparitions or hear their voices in order to believe they will pray for us in heaven. We trust that the saints will accept our requests for help and will present them to Christ for us.

The Catholic Church has always believed that Jesus Christ is the one mediator between God and man. It is the death and resurrection of Jesus alone by which people are saved.

In 449 Pope Leo the Great wrote his Tome against Eutyches, who taught that Jesus Christ had only one nature, not two. (This was the heresy of monophysitism.) In the Tome, which the Council of Chalcedon accepted as the authentic Catholic teaching on Christ, he quotes 1 Timothy 2:5 as the authentic Catholic doctrine: “Hence, as was suitable for the alleviation of our distress, one and the same mediator between God and men, himself man, Christ Jesus, was both mortal and immortal under different.aspects.”

The fifth session of the Council of Trent (1546) laid out the belief in Jesus the one true mediator as the norm of Catholic faith: “[Original sin cannot be] taken away through the powers of human nature or through a remedy other than the merit of the one mediator, our Lord Jesus Christ, who reconciled us to God in his blood, having become our justice, and sanctification, and redemption.”

The schema of the Dogmatic Constitution on the Principal Mysteries of the Faith, drafted for the First Vatican Council (1869-1870), includes the unique mediation of Jesus Christ as one of these principal mysteries: “Truly, therefore, Christ Jesus is mediator between God and man, one man dying for all; he made satisfaction to the divine justice for us, and he erased the handwriting that was against us. Despoiling principalities and powers, he brought us from our longstanding slavery into the freedom of sons.”

These quotations from official Catholic documents give unambiguous proof that the Church believes Jesus Christ and no other is the one mediator between sinful humanity and the righteous God. How does the Church integrate this essential doctrine of the faith with the belief that we can pray to the saints?

First, God expects us to pray for one another. We see this in both the Old and New Testaments.

In a dream, God commanded King Abimelech to ask Abraham to intercede for him: “For [Abraham] is a prophet and he will pray for you, so you shall live” (Gen. 20:7). When the Lord is angry with Job’s friends because they did not speak rightly about God, he tells them, “Let my servant Job pray for you because I will accept his [prayer], lest I make a terror on you” (Job 42:.

Paul wrote to the Romans: “I exhort you, brothers, through our Lord Jesus Christ and through the love of the Spirit, to strive with me in prayers to God on my behalf, that I may be delivered from the disobedient in Judaea and that my ministry may be acceptable to the saints in Jerusalem, so that in the joy coming to you through the will of God I may rest with you” (Rom. 15:30-32).

James says: “Therefore confess your sins to one another, and pray for one another, that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man has great power in its effects” (James 5:16-17). Thus, according to Scripture, God wants us to pray for one another. This must mean that prayer for one another cannot detract from the role of Jesus Christ as our one mediator with God.

Second, the reason that Christians have the power to pray for one another is that each person who is baptized is made a member of the Body of Christ by virtue of the Holy Spirit’s action in baptism (1 Cor. 12:11-13). It is because the Christian belongs to Jesus Christ and is a member of his Body, the Church, that we can make effective prayer.

The reason we pray to the saints is that they are still members of the Body of Christ. Remember, the life which Christ gives is eternal life; therefore, every Christian who has died in Christ is forever a member of the Body of Christ. This is the doctrine which we call the Communion of the Saints. Everyone in Christ, whether living or dead, belongs to the Body of Christ.

From this it follows that a saint in heaven may intercede for other people because he still is a member of the Body of Christ. Because of this membership in Christ, under his headship, the intercession of the saints cannot be a rival to Christ’s mediation; it is one with the mediation of Christ, to whom and in whom the saints form one body.


Regarding the documents about Mary your claim is not accurate before in the Mass which is the highest form of Catholic prayers, Mary is not mentioned not more than thrice and She is mentioned together with the apostle's, Mary is the first Apostle. And moreover any honour given to Mary is honour given to her son Jesus. When Elizabeth praised Mary, what did Mary did? She sang the magnificant (My Soul's glorifies the Lord).

Bros the Catholic church gave us the Bible, there is no teaching in the Catholic church that the Bible contradicts. It may not be written explicitly but if you dig well you will discovery the bible doesn't condemn any Catholic teaching.

I will love for us to examine all of your doctrinal issues in more details if you will permit

We don tire to hear this story mam. An encounter with a single priest and now we won't hear the end of it

jojofola:
There are no lies here.
The offerings are way too much.

The Catholic Church only has two offerings.
In some parishes, they over do . You see people sitting down when they are supposed to go for offertory in order to keep the money for blessings for the week. And these things happen in less open areas (like Ojo) dominated by the Igbos (I don't hate you o please). But when you go to paces like St. Leo ikeja and it likes, you will never experience such

that is life, one keeps talking, analyzing, learning, there is nothing like we are tired, it can only be pushed to another day

anambraamaka:
We don tire to hear this story mam. An encounter with a single priest and now we won't hear the end of it

tobechi20:
She is a humanist like Mubarak Bala who was arrested for blacksphemy


Religion stains whatever it touches. Religion has caused division among senior advocate of Nigeria. Ignoring the problem of religion in this country never manages to push the problem away. Ignoring the problem often compounds the problem until it grows into a mountain .

. An average Christian wishes  everyone is a Christian. An average Muslim wishes everyone becomes a Muslim. Each tries to project his desire to the other. Whenever a Muslim is in power, Christians fear he is on a mission to islamise the country.  Whenever a Christian becomes president, Muslims fear the same.This fear makes it difficult for them to cooperate amicably . Christian trust Christian leaders, Muslims trust Muslim leaders.


Our education system is fueling this saperation.  From primary school, children learn mathematics, English language, Basic science and other languages together. But when it comes to religious studies, Christians are divided from Muslims. This continues until the child finishes secondary school. The school saperates the children as kids and expect them to miraculously work together as adults.

The academia should develop a general religious knowledge curriculum. At an early age, children ought to be introduced to all form of religion outside the religion of their parents. A growing child should have basic knowledge of Christianity, Islam, African Traditional Religion, Buddhism etc.  Limiting him to one knowledge alone create a narrow mind and makes him difficult to tolerate and work with another Religion for which he never knew existed. When we delve into other belief, we become intrigued by the similarities. We become more accepting .


Christian should not wish everyone were a Christian. If everyone thinks alike, the world would be bored. God created us different for a reason . Muslim should wish every Christian develop a greater understanding and acceptance of Islam while remaining firmly within their own Religion.


https://tobechispeaks./2020/09/08/the-rise-of-religious-rebels-in-the-north/

the parents of a Muslim child Will never allow their children to learn any other religion outside Islam,same with christianity.so it's more complicated and complex than it is

through Jesus right?

then read Hebrew 9 and 10 very deeply

BluntTheApostle:
There is only one Way.

And that is Jesus Christ.

Anyone who comes by another way is a thief.

No church can take you to Heaven.

Jesus warned His disciples not to be like the Gentile princes who lord it over their subjects.

But that is what today's churches have become. They have become like worldly organizations where one man (general overseer) runs the show, while the congregation is no better than a body of subjects.

The Catholic Church, especially, is problematic because it is too ritual-centred, rather than Christ-centred.

There is too much emphasis on the Cathecism, than on the Gospel.

Too much emphasis on rituals, than on salvation.

I daily pray for Pope Francis to reform the Church.

Because, honestly, the Catholic Church is long due for another major Revival.

Can you even explain, what you believe in, that is a start.

But, no you keep rambling like you know perfectly, .

And that it will be known perfectly after reading those verse, which i read, and then you say its the spirit that will explain, since its too much for you to explain some details.

silibaba:
through Jesus right?

then read Hebrew 9 and 10 very deeply

SeriouslySense:
, Don't play that trick, it will not work

Playing Dumb, my friend, will not work.

the sacrifice of bread and wine is for remission of sin (note: not for forgiveness of sin)

if you sin is forgiven, there is still punishment, but if you pray for remission of sin and is granted, then there is no punishment, no trace of you sin.

only the sacrifice on the altar can do this.

only priests can perform this ritual (rev. fathers)
not prophets (pastors).


there is a difference between forgiveness and remission