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While Op is partly right, many 9ja dentists go for extraction only too readily. Dentists recommended extraction for a teenager, a relative. Despite my insistence that money was no object.

In contrast to what some posters are saying on this thread that the dentists are poorly trained, the dentist who eventually did the extraction had his post grad education in Western Europe.

I was appalled by the poor equipment they had. Extracting teeth of a 20 years old person is really not great.

Lol...What are you saying? You are comparing Nigeria to UK? Do you know the meaning of NHS? Google the price of RCT in a private dental clinic in Uk and come back for more schooling. Where in Nigeria will you do RCT for 20K? Oh yes i know, Mama Agness Dental Clinic. All best seeking treatment there

toprealman:
Oga you have blown things out of proportion here.
It will cost you £25-£25 to get a root canal done in the UK.
In Nigeria, with less than 20K you get it fixed in a private setting. It will cost less than 15K to do the procedure in a government hospital.
Maintaining a good oral hygiene is not as expensive as you have made it sound.
Poverty is a thing of the mind, let's create the awareness that an average Nigerian can still enjoy good dental hygiene. It is not a luxury.

godstino:
you obviously don't know what you're saying. A professional is supposed to suggest all options available and the patient will choose. In Nigeria, most of the patients opt for extraction outrightly even after been given the treatment options available. No Dentist will do an extraction without the INFORMED consent of the patient. Some of you just want to show yourselves whereas you're nothing.

Nigerian patients that you will be explaining treatment options to or even try to counsel them .. the next you will hear is .... this dr too talk just treat me biko.

Did you read the number two reason?
A tooth that is grossly compromised with abscess and puss and systemic manifestations of fever and lymph node enlargement is not a candidate for RCT even if you can afford X20 of the cost

AreaFada2:
While Op is partly right, many 9ja dentists go for extraction only too readily. Dentists recommended extraction for a teenager, a relative. Despite my insistence that money was no object.

In contrast to what some posters are saying on this thread that the dentists are poorly trained, the dentist who eventually did the extraction had his post grad education in Western Europe.

I was appalled by the poor equipment they had. Extracting teeth of a 20 years old person is really not great.

The clinical prowess of Nigerian Dentists is never in doubt as they contribute a significant number of Dentists in NHS and UAE

AreaFada2:
While Op is partly right, many 9ja dentists go for extraction only too readily. Dentists recommended extraction for a teenager, a relative. Despite my insistence that money was no object.

In contrast to what some posters are saying on this thread that the dentists are poorly trained, the dentist who eventually did the extraction had his post grad education in Western Europe.

I was appalled by the poor equipment they had. Extracting teeth of a 20 years old person is really not great.

Damian457:
Lol...What are you saying? You are comparing Nigeria to UK? Do you know the meaning of NHS? Google the price of RCT in a private dental clinic in Uk and come back for more schooling. Where in Nigeria will you do RCT for 20K? Oh yes i know, Mama Agness Dental Clinic. All best seeking treatment there

Stop being cynical bro. Mama Agnes you refer to disrupted your market because of your know it all attitude.
I don't need to know the meaning NHS. I paid them treat me ànd our transaction ends there.
I owe you no further explanation on this!
I had it done in one of the western states last year. A business woman opened the dental clinic and employed professionals like you to render the service.
I will rate them 9/10 for their excellent service.
A young man in Umuahia is coming up and he does it at roughly the same price.
Yes, you want people to believe that it is not cheap....market disruptors are taking over.

Damian457:
Did you read the number two reason?
A tooth that is grossly compromised with abscess and puss and systemic manifestations of fever and lymph node enlargement is not a candidate for RCT even if you can afford X20 of the cost

Well, I could see myself that there was no abscess of any serious infection markers. The extracted tooth as supremely redeemable. Something the dentist admitted but added that it could likely get worse.
There was even no initial dental x-ray as a new patient.

Even the teeth cleaning the teenager had done prior to extraction was rather very crude. All manual because the generator just didn't start. And that was supposed to be a very good dental practice o

Damian457 you are knowledgeable. Points well laid out just the way I appreciate it. Nice post

[quote author=GhostWisperer post=97911908]there we go again!!! What kind of RCT are you talking about? There are different types and have different costs.

There's Anterior RCT, there's Posterior RCT , Single Sitting RCT and Re-RCT.

Oga doctor, these RCTs cost different prices and varies even within a particular country.

If I begin to lash you like Market thief now, e go be like say I just dey provoke anyhow.

Mr showoff, you're as guilty almost as the Nigeria government. The Nigeria healthcare started failing from our schools, the teaching and how many of your parents pushed majority of you there to study medicine for money and family clout and never for passion.

That's why you're the most striking doctors in the world even though you're the top government earners.

Done.


Hypocrites everywhere. I will liken you to a nepa staff that switched of our transformer or terminal in my area for weeks and left a full community in darkness because some youths went to his office to insult him for poor power supply. Then the same nepa staff went to a clinic i work and was shouting at the doctors and nurses that werent professional enough , how will they not FULL service to his ward eventhough no deposit has being made.

Summary ... Nigerians want to reap what they can never sow.

Damian457:
Good morning, This is a counter thread to this topic:

https://www.nairaland.com/6354106/why-nigerian-dentists-always-suggest

There are basically 3 reasons why Nigerian Dentists will rather do extraction than a root canal treatment and they include;

1. Cost: The average cost of an anterior teeth root canal is 22k + 35k for crowning and 28k + 35k for posterior teeth in a GOVERNMENT HOSPITAL, Private clinics should be x2 or x3 of the quoted price. For those that don’t know the meaning of crowning it’s a procedure to reenforce the tooth structure after a root canal procedure.
So the question is how many persons can afford to part with over 57k to treat only one tooth when the minimum wage is 33k?? No Government Health Insurance for citizens, The so called NHIS is in shambles, the last time I checked some HMOs in NHIS don’t cover RCT. Payment for Dental care is out of pocket.
Sometimes when you tell patients about the whole root canal procedure they are excited till it gets to money part, some will even be like 57k for just one tooth? Please just remove it.


2. Deteriorated Condition: The first source of help for Nigerian Dental Patients anytime they feel pain is the “Chemist” , some even go to extent of getting dental formulas, powders and concoctions (Mama Agness Dental Formula) to alleviate their pain. Pain is a symptom not a pathology, when you apply those formulas and concoction, the pain may subside but the disease process will continue. Sometimes patient delay in seeking treatment and when they eventually come the tooth is already grossly compromised and are even Retained Roots.


3. Availability of Equipments: We all know healthcare is not a priority in Nigeria. Our hospitals are in shambles and in bad conditions. I will say this without any apology, the only way to get quality medical treatment in Nigeria is via private hospitals if you can afford their fees. Government hospitals are Jokes.
How many governments hospitals have OPG machines? Digital Xray machines or Even functioning dental chairs? How many Nigerians can afford to pay 90-114k per tooth in a Private Clinic to get quality dental care?

The question should be directed to the Government who have kept the citizens in perpetual poverty, with no health care insurance and has made it impossible for them to afford basic life needs.

Let me know If you think otherwise.

Please which one is more preferable between Veneer and Crown. Thanks, cos I am considering doing it for my disfigured tooth.

I experienced tooth ache last week and was referred to a private dental clinic by my HMO. The dentist suggested root canal and crowning as the treatment plan which was not covered under the NHIS scheme. RCT 40,000 Crowning 60,000 total N100,000. Where I wan take see 100k? I asked how much to extract, was told it was covered meaning I no go pay shi shi..na so I tell dentist say I dey come back the following week for extraction. Poster, your explanation is on point.

slawormiir:
Damnnn niggarrrr
I put on my intellectual cap as I perused and read between lines while blazing my weed and I must say this op write up is not devoid of intellect

Tooth ache is a pain in the asss though
Nobody should pray for it..

When he do my little sister that year ehnnnn
Nobody dey sleep for that house..once the pain start ....Nobody dey sleep.....

I don't pray for my enemy to go through that pain. Out of negligence, I removed 3 tooth as a result of toothache because I felt the pain terribly and petted it so much. Nigerian system can't even afford the average man the necessary equipments to treat toothache or infection.
Op thanks for this write-up

drsibz66:
Nigerian patients that you will be explaining treatment options to or even try to counsel them .. the next you will hear is .... this dr too talk just treat me biko.

Damian457:
You’re welcome boss

How do I know if my teeth needs removal or RCT? Currently, I feel no pain, at least one that I can identify at the moment, but I suppose feeling pain in my teeth means it's already that bad. So, how do I notice it before it gets bad?

Damian457:
Good morning, This is a counter thread to this topic:

https://www.nairaland.com/6354106/why-nigerian-dentists-always-suggest

There are basically 3 reasons why Nigerian Dentists will rather do extraction than a root canal treatment and they include;

1. Cost: The average cost of an anterior teeth root canal is 22k + 35k for crowning and 28k + 35k for posterior teeth in a GOVERNMENT HOSPITAL, Private clinics should be x2 or x3 of the quoted price. For those that don’t know the meaning of crowning it’s a procedure to reenforce the tooth structure after a root canal procedure.
So the question is how many persons can afford to part with over 57k to treat only one tooth when the minimum wage is 33k?? No Government Health Insurance for citizens, The so called NHIS is in shambles, the last time I checked some HMOs in NHIS don’t cover RCT. Payment for Dental care is out of pocket.
Sometimes when you tell patients about the whole root canal procedure they are excited till it gets to money part, some will even be like 57k for just one tooth? Please just remove it.


2. Deteriorated Condition: The first source of help for Nigerian Dental Patients anytime they feel pain is the “Chemist” , some even go to extent of getting dental formulas, powders and concoctions (Mama Agness Dental Formula) to alleviate their pain. Pain is a symptom not a pathology, when you apply those formulas and concoction, the pain may subside but the disease process will continue. Sometimes patient delay in seeking treatment and when they eventually come the tooth is already grossly compromised and are even Retained Roots.


3. Availability of Equipments: We all know healthcare is not a priority in Nigeria. Our hospitals are in shambles and in bad conditions. I will say this without any apology, the only way to get quality medical treatment in Nigeria is via private hospitals if you can afford their fees. Government hospitals are Jokes.
How many governments hospitals have OPG machines? Digital Xray machines or Even functioning dental chairs? How many Nigerians can afford to pay 90-114k per tooth in a Private Clinic to get quality dental care?

The question should be directed to the Government who have kept the citizens in perpetual poverty, with no health care insurance and has made it impossible for them to afford basic life needs.

Let me know If you think otherwise.

How much to extract one shaky front tooth and replace it with a fixed one.

How advisable too.

The only way to know the extent of the disease process is to take a detailed medical history, do clinical examination and take a radiograph.

History+ Clinical examination and Radiographs will decide.

Sixfeetbelle:
How do I know if my teeth needs removal or RCT? Currently, I feel no pain, at least one that I can identify at the moment, but I suppose feeling pain in my teeth means it's already that bad. So, how do I notice it before it gets bad?

It depends. Government hospital or Private.
Private will give you the best quality of care.

wiseone28:
How much to extract one shaky front tooth and replace it with a fixed one.

How advisable too.

Damian457:
The only way to know the extent of the disease process is to take a detailed medical history, do clinical examination and take a radiograph.

History+ Clinical examination and Radiographs will decide.

Okay. Thanks.

I do have to get this done at a General hospital, right?

Veneers are more conservative but The decision is also affected by other clinical findings and history

Starberg:
Please which one is more preferable between Veneer and Crown. Thanks, cos I am considering doing it for my disfigured tooth.

Yes you can.

Sixfeetbelle:
Okay. Thanks.

I do have to get this done at a General hospital, right?

great work you did here op. I read same same topic here yesterday evening and almost weep for the guy that posted it. you just did justice to what he said yesterday

Damian457:
Good morning, This is a counter thread to this topic:

https://www.nairaland.com/6354106/why-nigerian-dentists-always-suggest

There are basically 3 reasons why Nigerian Dentists will rather do extraction than a root canal treatment and they include;

1. Cost: The average cost of an anterior teeth root canal is 22k + 35k for crowning and 28k + 35k for posterior teeth in a GOVERNMENT HOSPITAL, Private clinics should be x2 or x3 of the quoted price. For those that don’t know the meaning of crowning it’s a procedure to reenforce the tooth structure after a root canal procedure.
So the question is how many persons can afford to part with over 57k to treat only one tooth when the minimum wage is 33k?? No Government Health Insurance for citizens, The so called NHIS is in shambles, the last time I checked some HMOs in NHIS don’t cover RCT. Payment for Dental care is out of pocket.
Sometimes when you tell patients about the whole root canal procedure they are excited till it gets to money part, some will even be like 57k for just one tooth? Please just remove it.


2. Deteriorated Condition: The first source of help for Nigerian Dental Patients anytime they feel pain is the “Chemist” , some even go to extent of getting dental formulas, powders and concoctions (Mama Agness Dental Formula) to alleviate their pain. Pain is a symptom not a pathology, when you apply those formulas and concoction, the pain may subside but the disease process will continue. Sometimes patient delay in seeking treatment and when they eventually come the tooth is already grossly compromised and are even Retained Roots.


3. Availability of Equipments: We all know healthcare is not a priority in Nigeria. Our hospitals are in shambles and in bad conditions. I will say this without any apology, the only way to get quality medical treatment in Nigeria is via private hospitals if you can afford their fees. Government hospitals are Jokes.
How many governments hospitals have OPG machines? Digital Xray machines or Even functioning dental chairs? How many Nigerians can afford to pay 90-114k per tooth in a Private Clinic to get quality dental care?

The question should be directed to the Government who have kept the citizens in perpetual poverty, with no health care insurance and has made it impossible for them to afford basic life needs.

Let me know If you think otherwise.

Not completely true, as it depends on the doctor you see. The doctor I met in a govt hospital, advised against extraction for cosmetic reasons, and I agree, even though it's more expensive.

In terms of cost, private hospitals aren't necessarily more expensive than govt. Hospitals; I speak from experience when it comes to dental care. Infact, if I had known, I would have gone to a private hospital, cos it was way cheaper and more professional.

For crowning, it isn't compulsory if they do a good job on you.
It's actually expensive too.

BoboNogoDie:
In Nigeria, we don't have doctors. What we have are either ignorant trial by error medical reps or hungry and greedy veteran medical reps.

If you fall sick and you go to any so-called hospital in Nigeria, 90% of those reps will immediately place you on MALARIA and/or typhoid treatments without even conducting any tests. So many people have been slowly killed and so many now have resistance for this malaria drugs.

The olodo ignorant dentists too will always result to extraction because that's the easiest approach.

Lazy People.

ignorant villagers always think doing test is the solution to their treatment.
Test only give clue to less than 20% of diseases.
If someone is depressed, how do u test it?
Africans have amazing crop of Drs working with meagre resources, available

You don’t know what you are saying

biggy26:
Not completely true, as it depends on the doctor you see. The doctor I met in a govt hospital, advised against extraction for cosmetic reasons, and I agree, even though it's more expensive.

In terms of cost, private hospitals aren't necessarily more expensive than govt. Hospitals; I speak from experience when it comes to dental care. Infact, if I had known, I would have gone to a private hospital, cos it was way cheaper and more professional.

For crowning, it isn't compulsory if they do a good job on you.
It's actually expensive too.

OrdinaryNigeria:
ignorant villagers always think doing test is the solution to their treatment.
Test only give clue to less than 20% of diseases.
If someone is depressed, how do u test it?
Africans have amazing crop of Drs working with meagre resources, available

Foolish people always think they have a counter point...
So, malaria drugs can be used to treat depression abi?

Damian457:
You don’t know what you are saying

Brainless statement in 2021. Well-done, Wiseman.

BoboNogoDie:
Foolish people always think they have a counter point...
So, malaria drugs can be used to treat depression abi?

I don't think there's anywhere in the world where a doctor must conduct lab tests for literally every symptom before administering treatment. That's his point.

[quote author=drsibz66 post=97913740][/quote]disturbingly uncorrelated!

DrFunmisticGlow:
we are not top government earners

yes you are. Who earns more than doctors in any ministry or parastatal?

it does make some sense. But the issue is that removing a tooth may also make it easier for another tooth to develop an issue. Or may create some psychological feeling. I would advise that one can take good care of the tooth. Personally, I have used a special toothpaste (morning and evening) to take care of sensitive gum

Damian457:
Good morning, This is a counter thread to this topic:

https://www.nairaland.com/6354106/why-nigerian-dentists-always-suggest

There are basically 3 reasons why Nigerian Dentists will rather do extraction than a root canal treatment and they include;

1. Cost: The average cost of an anterior teeth root canal is 22k + 35k for crowning and 28k + 35k for posterior teeth in a GOVERNMENT HOSPITAL, Private clinics should be x2 or x3 of the quoted price. For those that don’t know the meaning of crowning it’s a procedure to reenforce the tooth structure after a root canal procedure.
So the question is how many persons can afford to part with over 57k to treat only one tooth when the minimum wage is 33k?? No Government Health Insurance for citizens, The so called NHIS is in shambles, the last time I checked some HMOs in NHIS don’t cover RCT. Payment for Dental care is out of pocket.
Sometimes when you tell patients about the whole root canal procedure they are excited till it gets to money part, some will even be like 57k for just one tooth? Please just remove it.


2. Deteriorated Condition: The first source of help for Nigerian Dental Patients anytime they feel pain is the “Chemist” , some even go to extent of getting dental formulas, powders and concoctions (Mama Agness Dental Formula) to alleviate their pain. Pain is a symptom not a pathology, when you apply those formulas and concoction, the pain may subside but the disease process will continue. Sometimes patient delay in seeking treatment and when they eventually come the tooth is already grossly compromised and are even Retained Roots.


3. Availability of Equipments: We all know healthcare is not a priority in Nigeria. Our hospitals are in shambles and in bad conditions. I will say this without any apology, the only way to get quality medical treatment in Nigeria is via private hospitals if you can afford their fees. Government hospitals are Jokes.
How many governments hospitals have OPG machines? Digital Xray machines or Even functioning dental chairs? How many Nigerians can afford to pay 90-114k per tooth in a Private Clinic to get quality dental care?

The question should be directed to the Government who have kept the citizens in perpetual poverty, with no health care insurance and has made it impossible for them to afford basic life needs.

Let me know If you think otherwise.