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Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by linearity: 12:05am On Jan 14, 2021
foleskay:

What do u mean by conviction. Do u mean they're voting to send trump to jail or what??

The House impeachment today, is just officially accusing Trump of the charges layout in the Article of Impeachment.

Trump need to be tried in the Senate on those charges, where 67 votes are needed to convict him, though not very likely, no US President has ever been convicted in the Senate after House Impeachment.

The Senate can further vote to strip Trump off some retirement benefits, put restrictions on him, etc....these also are very unlikely but requires just simple majority vote.

They can also vote to refer him to DOJ for prosecution, which is not likely.

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Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:06am On Jan 14, 2021
slyfoxxjoe:

Your comment contains no facts or historical data whatsover just predictions. "they will, they will, you are dreaming" bla bla bla. That's how I know I am arguing with a nonentity. Why don't you debunk my claim that Biden was involved with his sons corruption na. Thats what started this arguement and I have given you the facts on that. you ain't worth my time at all. Run along
And tell me the facts your own comment contained.Oga where is your proof that Biden did bring facts all the investigations led to nothing on that so bring facts and not mere propaganda there is nothing to debunk because you have no fact to back up your claim lol you were the one making stupid predictions with no facts as well.

You lots are dreaming and should keep sleeping in delusion Island and you are the certified nonentity.

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Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by foleskay(m): 12:06am On Jan 14, 2021
fergie001:

Not at all.

They will come back in session on January 19.

And will continue the case well into Biden's tenure.
A nice delay tactic by d republican controlled senate. They know it could go either ways, cos one or two gop senators have indicated to vote for trump impeachment
Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by foleskay(m): 12:09am On Jan 14, 2021
linearity:


The House impeachment today, is just officially accusing Trump of the charges layout in the Article of Impeachment.

Trump need to be tried in the Senate on those charges, where 67 votes are needed to convict him, though not very likely, no US President has ever been convicted in the Senate after House Impeachment.

The Senate can further vote to strip Trump off some retirement benefits, put restrictions on him, etc....these also are very unlikely but requires just simple majority vote.

They can also vote to refer him to DOJ for prosecution, which is not likely.
Ook. Thanks very much smiley
Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by MadamExcellency: 12:11am On Jan 14, 2021
foleskay:

So the Senate are not ratifing the resolution of impeachment today??
y

(WSIL) — Wednesday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky) said he wouldn’t call an emergency session for a Senate impeachment trial for President Donald Trump.

He issued a statement Wednesday afternoon:

“The House of Representatives has voted to impeach the President. The Senate process will now begin at our first regular meeting following receipt of the article from the House.

“Given the rules, procedures, and Senate precedents that govern presidential impeachment trials, there is simply no chance that a fair or serious trial could conclude before President-elect Biden is sworn in next week. The Senate has held three presidential impeachment trials. They have lasted 83 days, 37 days, and 21 days respectively.

“Even if the Senate process were to begin this week and move promptly, no final verdict would be reached until after President Trump had left office. This is not a decision I am making; it is a fact. The President-elect himself stated last week that his inauguration on January 20 is the ‘quickest’ path for any change in the occupant of the presidency.

“In light of this reality, I believe it will best serve our nation if Congress and the executive branch spend the next seven days completely focused on facilitating a safe inauguration and an orderly transfer of power to the incoming Biden Administration. I am grateful to the offices and institutions within the Capitol that are working around the clock, alongside federal and local law enforcement, to prepare for a safe and successful inauguration at the Capitol next Wednesday.”
Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by Nobody: 12:15am On Jan 14, 2021
AmazonTopaz:

And tell me the facts your own comment contained.Oga where is your proof that Biden did bring facts all the investigations led to nothing on that so bring facts and not mere propaganda there is nothing to debunk because you have no fact to back uo your claim lol.

You lots are dreaming and should keep sleeping in delusion Island and you are the certified nonentity.

1. You're a slowpoke. Investigation into Biden crimes is still ongoing by the DOJ and a federal special council. It hasn't been concluded like you say.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/09/politics/hunter-biden-tax-investigtation/index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/10/us/politics/hunter-biden-investigation.html


2. Biden was implicated in emails found on his sons laptop for profiting from corrupt deals with chinese businesses. That's why I asked you to Google the phrase "50% for the big guy" which of course you did not.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8849687/Hunter-Biden-emails-identify-Joe-Biden-deal-Chinese-energy-firm-report-says.html

3. Biden can literally not pass his agenda without a good number of republicans voting with him. Very few laws in American politics can be passed with a simple majority which is why the dems could not remove Trump despite two impeachments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_in_the_United_States_Senate#:~:text=Filibuster%20is%20a%20tactic%20used,extending%20debate%20on%20the%20measure.

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Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by chronique(m): 12:15am On Jan 14, 2021
Miracle1991:
do you care for sniper? This pain you have on buhari is too much for you to handle. Just use ordinary sniper so that that pain will go forever and you will rest in hell.

Stop being a nuisance. When you comment, realize that millions of people here are reading the nonsense you typed.
Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by MadamExcellency: 12:16am On Jan 14, 2021
foleskay:

Ook. Thanks very much smiley

The comment you quoted is a lie

You can't do anything to an acquitted President. Unless convicted first, every other step in null and void.

The Senate will not acquit a President and then sentence him. It's a lie.

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Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by fergie001: 12:17am On Jan 14, 2021
foleskay:

A nice delay tactic by d republican controlled senate. They know it could go either ways, cos one or two gop senators have indicated to vote for trump impeachment
Maybe and also the fact that once a trial starts, every other activity of the Senate is put on hold.

Even Biden don't want that as the Senate needs to screen his appointees as well as COVID-19 relief et al.

Biden is appealing to the Senate to bifurcate but the probability of that is slim.

Again, saving some time will help douse some tension.
Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by donb06: 12:17am On Jan 14, 2021
AmazonTopaz:

That is if they will smell the majority in 2022 and if there will be any legal backing or conviction on that lol is Hunter Biden an elected official?
It is doomed to fail don't get your hopes up.

I thought all ur rantings were for the betterment of America not knowing ure a political hogwash....

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Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by foleskay(m): 12:17am On Jan 14, 2021
MadamExcellency:
y

(WSIL) — Wednesday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky) said he wouldn’t call an emergency session for a Senate impeachment trial for President Donald Trump.

He issued a statement Wednesday afternoon:

“The House of Representatives has voted to impeach the President. The Senate process will now begin at our first regular meeting following receipt of the article from the House.

“Given the rules, procedures, and Senate precedents that govern presidential impeachment trials, there is simply no chance that a fair or serious trial could conclude before President-elect Biden is sworn in next week. The Senate has held three presidential impeachment trials. They have lasted 83 days, 37 days, and 21 days respectively.

“Even if the Senate process were to begin this week and move promptly, no final verdict would be reached until after President Trump had left office. This is not a decision I am making; it is a fact. The President-elect himself stated last week that his inauguration on January 20 is the ‘quickest’ path for any change in the occupant of the presidency.

“In light of this reality, I believe it will best serve our nation if Congress and the executive branch spend the next seven days completely focused on facilitating a safe inauguration and an orderly transfer of power to the incoming Biden Administration. I am grateful to the offices and institutions within the Capitol that are working around the clock, alongside federal and local law enforcement, to prepare for a safe and successful inauguration at the Capitol next Wednesday.”
Thanks smiley
Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by Zeeknow3245(m): 12:21am On Jan 14, 2021
Well it is seen as a welcome effort by Democrats. Trump has always been at logger heads with his own party members right when he decided to contest. Those that support him, hated him then. The pain has always been that his family had never held a public office and he is considered an outsider until he won back in 2016.
If it is inciting violence, I don't totally agree. He made some statements like'' Fight like hell" ,"The Election was Rigged and hijacked by the radical left" and many more. This not new back in 2017, Nancy Pelosi said" The Election was Rigged and hijacked and we are going to fight for the people of America"
During the BLM protest that lasted for 4 months, shops were burnt, stations were burnt worth over 4billion dollars and the protest were funded by the Democrats. Nancy did not condemn neither did Chuck a and Abrams. They forgot about covid?gringrin.
During Nancy's for re-election as speaker, a Dem who has not recovered from covid travelled to vote.
Impeaching Trump fuels more hatred and Pence warned about it. The divide is too much and Dems caused it by fueling hate for 4 years. Now the Big Tech is on their side and censor what they don't want you to see.
George Orwell's words
" WAR IS PEACE"
"IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH"

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Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:22am On Jan 14, 2021
slyfoxxjoe:


1. You're a slowpoke. Investigation into Biden crimes is still ongoing by the DOJ and a federal special council. It hasn't been concluded like you say.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/12/09/politics/hunter-biden-tax-investigtation/index.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/10/us/politics/hunter-biden-investigation.html


2. Biden was implicated in emails found on his sons laptop for profiting from corrupt deals with chinese businesses. That's why I asked you to Google the phrase "50% for the big guy" which of course you did not.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8849687/Hunter-Biden-emails-identify-Joe-Biden-deal-Chinese-energy-firm-report-says.html

3. Biden can literally not pass his agenda without a good number of republicans voting with him. Very few laws in American politics can be passed with a simple majority which is why the dems could not remove Trump despite two impeachments.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filibuster_in_the_United_States_Senate#:~:text=Filibuster%20is%20a%20tactic%20used,extending%20debate%20on%20the%20measure.

You are the slowpoke you were silly to say that he will be impeached and claimed that Hunter had been found guilty so shut up he has not and I knew he was under investigation the senate committe had one on him last year and nothing came out.

What laptop and what emails so why wasn't he charged or declared under investigation what exact law did he or his son break.
Also shut up Biden has the congress and they will do what they can anyother thing to be done will be enforced with executive order in 2022 the dems expand their majority and do more.

So get lost you slowpoke and stop wishful thinking or delusion that will go nowhere

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Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by bukatyne(f): 12:23am On Jan 14, 2021
subcbouy:
Senate will stop the impeachment, politics is republican and the game is democrat.

Ugandan electoral commission has removed America from being an electoral observer in the general election.

grin cheesy
Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by linearity: 12:23am On Jan 14, 2021
emmadeking:

Please, how many days did it take for him to be impeached the first time?
My point still remains, why the rush if they're not scared of his 2024 potential comeback?

We can move forward now, we are on the same page that the House are in charge of their own timeline and timetable and can chose how long an impeachment can take base on their passed rules.

Go listen to Mitch comments, the Republicans are more afraid of Trump in 2024. Mitch stated, he believes the impeachment will help to rid Trump from the party and he welcome it, but has not decided how he will vote.

It is ironic you think, it is the Democrats who are afraid of Trump come 2024. They defeated him on Nov 3 during the General Elections, and also on January 5th, where they took the two Senate seats in Georgia.

Many Republicans are afraid of getting primaried hence their vote in the House today. I truly don’t think this think have fully played out.

The Republican Party is currently searching for a leader and a direction. They have start asking to remove those who voted to impeach Trump from House committee seats. Also, depending on how this shakes out, Trump might even leave the party and form a new one.

I truly doubt if Trump will run in 2024, if he does there are many Republicans who are mad that he incited his supporters to go to the Capito and many will not vote for him.
Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:23am On Jan 14, 2021
donb06:


I thought all ur rantings were for the betterment of America not knowing ure a political hogwash....
Wanting the democrats in power is for the betterment of America if you did not know that you are the political hogwash wink cheesy
Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by emmadeking(m): 12:24am On Jan 14, 2021
foleskay:

What do u mean by conviction. Do u mean they're voting to send trump to jail or what??
No sir.
Convicting him at the senate simply means the senate agrees with the house of reps that Trump deserves to be impeached, hence he loses the privileges accrued to an ex-president and he can't hold any public office in future
Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by emmadeking(m): 12:25am On Jan 14, 2021
mysticwarrior:
who is coming back in 2024 Trump? Its like saying a dead man who has longed been buried ressurects back to life.
Hope you enjoy Biden's term, especially when Kamala Harris becomes the president within the next four years.
Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:26am On Jan 14, 2021
emmadeking:

Hope you enjoy Biden's term, especially when Kamala Harris becomes the president within the next four years.
And what is wrong with Kamala Harris being president undecided
Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by SIRTee15: 12:27am On Jan 14, 2021
slyfoxxjoe:
LMAO. Dems have the slimmest of majorities in Both houses in a year they WON the presidency and you are making mouth. If you're educated enough, go do some research on the last time an incoming president had such a fragile legislative majority. They can't even pass any of their radical agenda because of the filibuster, they need a good number of Republicans to vote with them on anything of significance they want to pass.

Republicans will EASILY take back the house in the next midterms. They are likely to take back the senate before then sef because Joe Manchin is very likely to switch to the republican party soon. With Trump out of the way, there will be no boogie man to scare voters with again and American politics will revert to the tradition of the Party in power losing sits in the mid term. Even with Obama's popularity and strong legislative majority he had in congress on his first election, he still lost the house to the republicans in the midterms. It's now this dull biden with his fragile majority you think won't lose it? LOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!!!!

Yes Biden was involved with his son's corruption. Just google this phrase now "50 percent for the big guy" I won't say more than that.

U are not considering one big factor....the demography of america is changing and descendants of immigrants will likely vote a party that will secure their existence in usa...

If republican continue to pursue white supremacy rhetoric, they are in for a tough time in the future. Whites are just 60% of American population....they now had to add Hispanics to boost their numbers to 73% n we know Latinos don't like whites.

Already, states with strong immigrants population are becoming democrats strong hold.
Only the rust belts n it's bitter poor whites population will be left for republicans.

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Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by juman(m): 12:28am On Jan 14, 2021
Okoro trump can go and become the president of biafra.
Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by donb06: 12:28am On Jan 14, 2021
AmazonTopaz:

Wanting the democrats in power is for the betterment of America if you did not know that you are the political hogwash wink cheesy

Oh You just confirmed it grin.... Not a good personality but a Party....sorry ure lost

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Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by abbey621(m): 12:30am On Jan 14, 2021
Medicine after death, watch as the impeachment dies a natural death in the senate long after trump has vacated office. Vanity upon vanity but I guess Trump can only blame himself, nobody goes against the estbalishment and liberal moguls without losing almost everything!

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Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by akilo1: 12:32am On Jan 14, 2021
Somewhere in onitcha right now

Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by juman(m): 12:32am On Jan 14, 2021
I now appreciate obama presidency much more.
He didnt go there and disgrace the black people.

Trump presidency is absolute disgrace and unfortunate.
He operates as a president of third world country.
Republicans leaders that suppose to know politics better than trump, rather following trump like goats.
Shame.

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Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:33am On Jan 14, 2021
donb06:


Oh You just confirmed it grin.... Not a good personality but a Party....sorry ure lost
You are the lost one if you are talking about personality Trump has a bad one cheesy.
Next time go and learn about ideological politics and know that it is more than personality.

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Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by unikwa: 12:33am On Jan 14, 2021
Childish.
America has turned into a laughing stock.
World leaders are questioning the perversion in the democratic system.
Australia, Germany, France, Mexico, Russia are questioning events occurring in the USA.
Even the ACLU disagrees.
Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by emmadeking(m): 12:35am On Jan 14, 2021
AmazonTopaz:

And what is wrong with Kamala Harris being president undecided
Where did I state there's something wrong in her becoming president? Its good there's a change in government, it will give Americans the chance to compare and contrast and chose their next leader come 2024. Let's enjoy the next four years and hopefully the main stream media will constructively criticize the next government as much as Trump's was criticized. Though skeptical.
Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by juman(m): 12:39am On Jan 14, 2021
Most american politicians are bad leaders.
What they do most at the congress is to argue, argue, and argue without having the interest of common people at heart.
Re: Donald Trump Impeached For The Second Time. by Carlyscales: 12:40am On Jan 14, 2021
Tolexander:
Make the Senate try and ratify this second impeachment.
So that Trump can be the first POTUS to be impeached and removed

the US Senate is currently on recess to reconvene 19/01 while inauguration is 20/01. Hence no time to remove trump.

It remains to be seen whether the Senate will reconvene under a matter of natl emergency to try/remove Trump.

Remember that they'll need for a 2/3 majority to remove him, unlike a simple majority needed to impeach at the lower house. This'll only be possible if the Republican party decides to discard trump. Which they can do honorably by asking him to resign than allowing Democrats to remove him. just like in d case of Nixon.
And I personally don't think there's anyone or persons amongst Republicans with d needed clout n support base to remove trump at the moment.

Another option, is for Pelosi to delay transmitting the trial till after inauguration. By then Democrats will have taken control of the Senate.
So he'll tried in absentia and if removed, will be barred completely from contesting any political post in d US forever.
But this will further divide the nation, which biden desperately needs to unite. And distract the Congress from concentrating on important task

1) of salvaging an economy on recession
2) repairing a foreign battered image
3) approving a badly needed covid-19 stimulus package for businesses, individuals n families
4) approving Biden's nominees to kickstart the administration
5) regulating the needed drugs, vaccines n interventions to manage a country ridiculously ravaged by covid.

So in all, it'll be really a herculean mission to remove trump from office. But though still possible.

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