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| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by forgiveness: 12:32am On Jan 18, 2021 |
Christistruth00:Insightful. Thanks |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by gregyboy(m): 12:37am On Jan 18, 2021 |
Christistruth00:All lands in lagos were ruled by the oba of lagos and controlled by benins, the ijebu and egba traders came to lagos Island to trade ans the oba of oversaw their trades The benin government in lagos allowed the various original chiefs in lagos retain their lands in return pay annual tribute to the oba of lagos while benin grants them governmental autonomy Benin only occupied lagos Island because of the trade prospect, if there was other trade prospect around lagos mainland benin would have settled there too So directly or indirectly the entiren lagos was under the mercy of oba of Benin |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by thatigboman: 12:45am On Jan 18, 2021 |
Christistruth00:chairman, tbat census has been over circulated here on nairaland. Just ask your senior brothers and sisters |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by TAO11(f): 12:47am On Jan 18, 2021*. Modified: 5:17am On Jan 18, 2021 |
forgiveness:Just as humans grow to become independent (and free of) their parents control; so do many kingdoms also grow to become independent of their parent kingdom. The fact that the Oyo and Ijebu-Ode kingdoms later in the course of history became independent kingdoms in their own rights does not mean that each of them was never initially descended from some kingdom — in this case the Ife kingdom. To buttress this further, the attachment below shows pages from the typescript of the proceedings of the 31st March 1937 “Conference of Yoruba Chiefs”. In this conference, the Alaafin of Oyo and the Awujale of Ijebu-Ode were not only present but also conceded to the declaration that their respective kingdoms initially descended from the Ife kingdom. See attached: www.nairaland.com/attachments/13005881_7ac037b1813f4cda979e313aad0450a3_jpeg_jpeg33b212c8164002010fa873e3e1bcdf89 www.nairaland.com/attachments/13005882_f30457e69fc64a1284d446f97bedc0c7_jpeg_jpege403908d96fdfa4cb59b80075cdb1ec7 This fact here as expounded recognized in this attached typescript (i.e. the fact that the kingdoms of the Alaafin and Awajale among others were originally descended from the Ife kingdom before their later independence) is obviously confirmed by the much earlier fact that the then Alaafin (and other Yoruba kings) had to live outside the walls of their respective palaces in honor of the fact that the Ooni left his palace for a meeting in Lagos. Besides, Oni of Ife was never the only one that gave out crowns to obas as at the time he spoke.No you’re not wrong. You’re right on this. However, that Ooni was also right on this. That Ooni’s listing as contained in the document you’re alluding to was simply to debunk the Elepe’s claim that Ife directly authorized him to wear a crown. The Ooni wasn’t saying that all Yoruba kingdoms got their crowns directly from Ife. We know for a fact that many Yoruba kingdoms actually descended not directly from Ife but directly from another Yoruba kingdom. Such descendant Yoruba kingdom often got their right to crowns not directly from Ife but via the actual kingdom they had directly descended from. A case in point is the Eko kingdom about which the list given by that Ooni have also being misunderstood by the author of our OP’s content. Eko is omitted from that Ooni’s list does not mean that the kings of Eko aren’t coronated with a crown. Yes, they are coronated with a crown as my attachment here shows. www.nairaland.com/attachments/13005855_93bc31b4bdcb4d5cba64a59661c10078_jpeg_jpeg7733eb0f9e9a5fbaf3cacd08449b0648 What the omission does mean instead is that the Eko kingdom got its primary/coronation crown not directly from Ife but via another Yoruba kingdom — not from Benin also, as this primary/coronation crown clearly shows here. ————————— The following is the background to the Akarigbo vs Elepe tussle: The Elepe’s district is a territory established within the Remo kingdom of Ishagamu (the Akarigbo’s kingdom) ruled by the Akarigbo who also the paramount king of all Ijebu-Remo kingdoms. So, only two kings could possibly authorize the Elepe to wear a crown, viz. the Akarigbo of Ijebu-Remo, or Ife directly. The Elepe was challenged by the Akarigbo himself. This thus shows that the Akarigbo didn’t authorize him to wear a crown. The Elepe’s last straw was obviously to claim that Ife gave him the direct right — a claim which the Ooni debunked with his list. |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Christistruth00: 12:49am On Jan 18, 2021 |
gregyboy:Are you saying Ijebuland and Egbaland was under the Mercy of Oba of Benin when the Ijebus and the Egbas were in Complete Military and Political control of all the Lagos Mainland and even the British were Negotiating with them through through the King's at Abeokuta and Ikorodu ?
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| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by gregyboy(m): 1:01am On Jan 18, 2021*. Modified: 6:32am On Jan 18, 2021 |
Christistruth00:Bro i said Benin allowed the settlers outside lagos Island have their governmental autonomy as long as they pay daily tribute to oba of lagos, Did aworis not have her own military before benin sacked it, ehnn, what is special about Ijebu and egba military Benin took their commercial spot, lagos island, the place both ijebu, awori abd egba traded and yet tgey couldn't join forces to overthrow benin Now make me understand the military power you're talking about bro |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by gregyboy(m): 1:06am On Jan 18, 2021 |
Christistruth00:Lol, present articles from these various areas Ogendegbe attacked in edo state attesting to the attacks by Ogendegbe All i see is a forged history Imagine you begging a warrior from attacking your people and he peacefully agreed and left This is a myth from hell taken too far Etinosa1234, Areafada2, tao11 Balogunodua, ideodoctor samuk, Valirex Make una come see something,, the yorubas have all gone mad with their myth again, |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Christistruth00: 1:10am On Jan 18, 2021*. Modified: 1:25am On Jan 18, 2021 |
gregyboy:Did you read where the Awori and their a!lies Oba Kosoko of Lagos and the Ibadan Army were so Calamitously defeated in the Ota War of 1842 by the Egbas that all the Land from Abeokuta to the Lagos Coast became Egbaland ?
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| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Christistruth00: 1:30am On Jan 18, 2021*. Modified: 2:19am On Jan 18, 2021 |
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| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by double77: 1:38am On Jan 18, 2021 |
Make una come see something,, the yorubas have all gone mad with their myth again, |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by double77: 1:43am On Jan 18, 2021 |
This is a myth from hell taken toofar[b][/b] ![]() |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Christistruth00: 1:46am On Jan 18, 2021 |
thatigboman:Post it |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Christistruth00: 2:29am On Jan 18, 2021*. Modified: 3:36am On Jan 18, 2021 |
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| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Yebedervru: 2:36am On Jan 18, 2021 |
double77:I don’t want to say just like your foolish ugly oba of Benin have gone mad because all Edo indigenes are yoruba. Oloriburuku omo adanu |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by TAO11(f): 3:00am On Jan 18, 2021*. Modified: 5:07am On Jan 18, 2021 |
gregyboy:Had you written your own English language WAEC examination by yourself and passed; then you should have realized that the article from which your above screenshot comes (The Heritage of Oduduwa, 1973), actually (rightfully) affirms the severally attested early received accounts of the Ooni-line’s legitimacy to the Ife throne (as well as its consequent paramountcy over other Yoruba monarchies); while debunking a latter-day paltry variant propagandist account (from Oyo particularly) which attempts to undermine these earlier and severally attested received accounts of the Ooni-line’s legitimacy to the Ife throne. Having explained that to you, if you still remain clueless (which I do expect that you would) in addition to your initial cluelessness of the content of your own attachment; then the materials attached below are highly recommended for you as a starting point on English comprehension. Cc: gomojam, Ideadoctor, Balogunodua, DenreleDave, TimeManager, SaintBeehot
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| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by double77: 6:04am On Jan 18, 2021 |
This is a myth from hell taken toofar the yorubas have all gone mad with their myth again, |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Yebedervru: 6:38am On Jan 18, 2021 |
double77:I don’t want to say just like your foolish ugly oba of Benin have gone mad because all Edo indigenes are yoruba. Oloriburuku omo adanu |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Yebedervru: 6:45am On Jan 18, 2021 |
TAO11:Leave the guy. That Oyo became the most powerful at a time because of wars doesn’t change the fact that ife is number one because even the first Alaafin of Oyo is oranmiyan, the son of okanbi, grandson of oduduwa Ibadan which also became powerful at a point doesn’t change the fact that lagelu(ife man) also founded Ibadan Oyo became powerful because of the empire but doesn’t change fact all yorubas migrated from ife whether directly or indirectly . You should know typical Benidiots with low iq and comprehension problems |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by gregyboy(m): 6:48am On Jan 18, 2021 |
Christistruth00:What was the reason for the war, Defeated and the oba of lagos wasnt sacked from his throne, Even if am to accept this your skeptical defeat, one thing i know is before the war oba of lagos extented her political power over the egba and ijebu land A dispute broke out which the oba of lagos failed to report to the oba of Benin for assistance and he was defeated in a tribal clash , Still doesn't remove the fact benin powers extended beyond egba and ijebu land and they paid tribute to the oba of benin When the British came for annexation, the only stool they recognized was the oba of lagos, not egba or jebu |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by gregyboy(m): 6:51am On Jan 18, 2021 |
TAO11:
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| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Yebedervru: 6:52am On Jan 18, 2021 |
[quote author=gregyboy post=98175107][/quote]That Oyo became the most powerful at a time because of wars doesn’t change the fact that ife is number one because even the first Alaafin of Oyo is oranmiyan, the son of okanbi, grandson of oduduwa Ibadan which also became powerful at a point doesn’t change the fact that lagelu(ife man) also founded Ibadan Oyo became powerful because of the empire but doesn’t change fact all yorubas migrated from ife whether directly or indirectly Well I know benidiots like you to be daft that you have comprehension problems |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by gregyboy(m): 6:54am On Jan 18, 2021 |
Yebedervru:
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| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Yebedervru: 6:54am On Jan 18, 2021 |
[quote author=gregyboy post=98175154][/quote]That Oyo became the most powerful at a time because of wars doesn’t change the fact that ife is number one because even the first Alaafin of Oyo is oranmiyan, the son of okanbi, grandson of oduduwa Ibadan which also became powerful at a point doesn’t change the fact that lagelu(ife man) also founded Ibadan Oyo became powerful because of the empire but doesn’t change fact all yorubas migrated from ife whether directly or indirectly Well I know benidiots like you to be daft that you have comprehension problems The only thing benidiots like you are good at is cultism, armed robbery, prostitution No ambition, no future Cultism started from Ibadan here but the youths had to give themselves Brain to drop it because it’s not profitable unlike Benin where parents would be happy their son is a cultist while daughter is a prostitute I’m sure your mother is also a prostitute with damaged pussy like Lagos Ibadan expressway and I have bleeped your useless mother before here in Ibadan Incase you doubt me, go to any hotel in Ibadan today, Your sisters constitute more than 50% of oloshos we have. Well I’m also suspecting you that you may not be the child of your own mother as we don Bleep her tire for Ibadan here. So instead of wasting your time on nairaland, try and use the energy to educate your youths to change their trade Benin hoodlum |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by double77: 8:44am On Jan 18, 2021 |
Hate to burst your bubble Pookie, but it's true. the yorubas have all gone mad with their myth |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by double77: 9:14am On Jan 18, 2021 |
Yebedervru: Cut off the head of the snake. The rest will follow. |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Yebedervru: 9:21am On Jan 18, 2021 |
double77:The only thing benidiots like you are good at is cultism, armed robbery, prostitution No ambition, no future Cultism started from Ibadan here but the youths had to give themselves Brain to drop it because it’s not profitable unlike Benin where parents would be happy their son is a cultist while daughter is a prostitute I’m sure your mother is also a prostitute with damaged pussy like Lagos Ibadan expressway and I have bleeped your useless mother before here in Ibadan Incase you doubt me, go to any hotel in Ibadan today, Your sisters constitute more than 50% of oloshos we have. Well I’m also suspecting you that you may not be the child of your own mother as we don Bleep her tire for Ibadan here. So instead of wasting your time on nairaland, try and use the energy to educate your youths to change their trade Benin hoodlum |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Christistruth00: 9:29am On Jan 18, 2021*. Modified: 10:12am On Jan 18, 2021 |
ok, here is my email: nocomment777777@gmail.com.Thank God you finally Surrendered ! All Lagos Metropolis was controlled Politically and Militarily by Egba and Ijebu ALL ! They were the ones the British Negotiated with and fought They had no Business at all with Benin The 2nd document describes Lagos Geographically . All was on Lagos Island. Lagos Mainland was 100% Egba and Ijebu Political and Military Territory.. ALake of Abeokuta, Awujale of Ijebu and Oba of Ikorodu were the King's the British dealt with on Lagos Mainland Politically and Militarily. Cc TAO, Balogunodua
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| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 9:48am On Jan 18, 2021 |
thatigboman:Go tell an Aeori man that and come back to tell us his reaction. You're a slowpoke for that statement |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 9:56am On Jan 18, 2021 |
How many bin is are even Omonile in Lagos? All the land transactions I have done, I only see Aworis and Ijebu as well as Uguns from Badagry. I challenge any Bini man to show a land receipt issued by a Bini Baale in Lagos. I want to see Ossai Family, Etinosa Family. I have Ojora family (Awori), I have Oshuku family (Awori) etc |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by thatigboman: 9:57am On Jan 18, 2021 |
Christistruth00:u have been making unsubstantiated claims all along. How did landlocked oyo have sea pirates? Aworis are not yoruba. And lagos belongs to bini. Eko in bini language means "war camp" |
| Re: Lagos Belongs To Benin - Obanikoro's Grandson Declares by Nobody: 10:00am On Jan 18, 2021 |
All these Edo who are good at nothing but robbery, cultism, prostitution, dey form heavy weight. Useless set of criminals. Ijaws are already encroaching on their small village; they will soon be conquered by Ijaws, it's a matter of time. |
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