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| Re: Only Born Again Christians Will Enter Heaven , Others 100% Hell. by enilove(op): 11:24am On Jan 20, 2021 |
@AntiChristian , I am waiting for your reply with regards to my last reply to your post . We have stories of the Bible in the Quran but name of another god with modes of worship and rituals of pagans in your religion ( Islam ) . Why and how can you connect this with the God of the Bible? |
| Re: Only Born Again Christians Will Enter Heaven , Others 100% Hell. by AntiChristian: 12:19pm On Jan 20, 2021 |
enilove:All these are flimsy and hocus pocus. Did Jesus say many will call the name of the Lord in vain? And it's not all those who call his name that do so in truth? To the case of Ishmael . Why did Muhammad not make any negative comments about sending away of Ishmael ?Because we don't abuse Prophets in Islam unlike Christianity. The original is always before the fake.In Publishing the latest edition is usually more error free. There were copies of Bible in Arabia during the time of Muhammad.Stop the lies. There were copies of injeel and Torah! These are not Bible. Those stories were copied from the Bible .Can you show us where this is in the Old testament? This is even against you cos it means what the Jews practiced back then is not in today's OT. ![]() HadithCan you show us where this is in the Old testament? This is even against you cos it means what the Jews practiced back then is not in today's OT. ![]() HadithThe Jews back then believed Muslims would be tried in the grave. Where is this in the OT? Show us so we can see where the Prophet copied the OT? HadithWhat happened here was a deliberation and Allah revealed the call to Prayer! Allah SWT said:And of cos you are ignorant! We can also see that the tawaf of the kabaah , Tawaf of Safa and Mawah , kissing of the black stone , fsating during the period of Ashura , ablution , even the name of Allah etc were pagan related.You are still a liar till you bring evidence for each of these. Most Christians celebrate idolatry in Santa, Xmas tree and Dec 25 as Ps. Kumuyi said. And as I said before, you believe god killed his son for you to be saved. Isn't this the biggest ritual paganism of the whole time? So , how can we trust such a religion . Allah and Muhammad did not show any miracle to convince people of the mighty power of Allah .Stop the lies! The Miracle of Muhammad is the Qur'an. As for other miracles it includes the splitting of the moon, the Prophetic Journey and ascension, increasing small amounts of food, the trunk of a palm tree longs for the Prophet among others. Moses killed! Joshua killed on God's command. Even Samson. And the killings were justified. Why trust you own God who killed in the OT and repented in the NT? |
| Re: Only Born Again Christians Will Enter Heaven , Others 100% Hell. by AntiChristian: 12:21pm On Jan 20, 2021 |
enilove:Since you keep mentioning paganism, is vicarious atonement not paganism? Babalawos have been killing people to make others progress! This is paganism in your Bible sanctioned by your God. |
| Re: Only Born Again Christians Will Enter Heaven , Others 100% Hell. by enilove(op): 1:48pm On Jan 20, 2021*. Modified: 7:32pm On Jan 20, 2021 |
AntiChristian:All the evidences I showed are from your books. Are you rejecting your books as not authentic ? You still want more proofs that will convince you that Islam is idolatry ? They abound : Hadith Hisham b. 'Urwa reported on the authority of his father who narrated from 'A'isha. He said to 'A'isha: I think if a person does not run between al- Safa' and al-Marwa, It does not do any harm to him (so far as Hajj is concerned). She said: Why (do you think so)? I said: For Allah says:" Verily al-Safa' and al-Marwa are among the Signs of Allah" (2:158) (to the end of the verse), whereupon she said: Allah does not complete the Hajj of a person or his Umra if he does not observe Sa'i between al-Safa' and al-marwa; and if it were so as you state, then (the wording would have been (fala janah an la yatufu biha) [" There is no harm for him if he does not circumambulate between them']. Do you know in what context (this verse was revealed)? (It was revealed in this context) that the Ansar in the Days of Ignorance pronounced the Talbiya for two idols. (fixed ldols on the bank of the river which were called Isaf and Na'ila. The people went there, and then circumambulated between al-Safa' and al-Marwa and then got their heads shaved. With the advent of Islam they (the Muslims) did not like to circumambulate between them as they used to do during the Days of Ignorance. It was on account of this that Allah. the Exalted and Majestic, revealed:" Verily al-Safe and al-Marwa are among the Signs of Allah" to the end of the verse. She said: Then people began to observe Sa'i. Sahih Muslim 1277 a In-book : Book 15, Hadith 285 USC-MSA web (English) : Book 7, Hadith 2923 (deprecated) Sahih Muslim Hadith Narrated Zaid bin Aslam from his father who said: "`Umar bin Al-Khattab addressed the Corner (Black Stone) saying, 'By Allah! I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Prophet (ﷺ) touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you.' Then he kissed it and said, 'There is no reason for us to do Ramal (in Tawaf) except that we wanted to show off before the pagans, and now Allah has destroyed them.' `Umar added, '(Nevertheless), the Prophet (ﷺ) did that and we do not want to leave it (i.e. Ramal).' Sahih al-Bukhari 1605 In-book : Book 25, Hadith 91 USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 2, Book 26, Hadith 675 (deprecated) Sahih Bukhari Hadith Narrated Nafi`: Ibn `Umar. said, "I have never missed the touching of these two stones of Ka`ba (the Black Stone and the Yemenite Corner) both in the presence and the absence of crowds, since I saw the Prophet (ﷺ) touching them." I asked Nafi`: "Did Ibn `Umar use to walk between the two Corners?" Nafi` replied, "He used to walk in order that it might be easy for him to touch it (the Corner Stone)." Sahih al-Bukhari 1606 In-book : Book 25, Hadith 92 USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 2, Book 26, Hadith 676 (deprecated) Sahih Bukhari Hadith Narrated Abu Raja Al-Utaridi: We used to worship stones, and when we found a better stone than the first one, we would throw the first one and take the latter, but if we could not get a stone then we would collect some earth (i.e. soil) and then bring a sheep and milk that sheep over it, and perform the Tawaf around it. When the month of Rajab came, we used (to stop the military actions), calling this month the iron remover, for we used to remove and throw away the iron parts of every spear and arrow in the month of Rajab. Abu Raja' added: When the Prophet (ﷺ) sent with (Allah's) Message, I was a boy working as a shepherd of my family camels. When we heard the news about the appearance of the Prophet, we ran to the fire, i.e. to Musailima al-Kadhdhab. Sahih al-Bukhari 4376, 4377 In-book : Book 64, Hadith 401 USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 5, Book 59, Hadith 661 (deprecated) Sahih Bukhari Hadith Narrated Aisha: Abu Bakr came to my house while two small Ansari girls were singing beside me the stories of the Ansar concerning the Day of Buath. And they were not singers. Abu Bakr said protestingly, "Musical instruments of Satan in the house of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) !" It happened on the `Id day and Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "O Abu Bakr! There is an `Id for every nation and this is our `Id." Sahih al-Bukhari 952 In-book : Book 13, Hadith 4 USC-MSA web (English) : Vol. 2, Book 15, Hadith 72 (deprecated) Sahih Bukhari ARE THESE LIES ? HOPE YOU KNOW THESE ARE '' SAHIH '' . The kabah too was built by idol worshippers for their idols . This is what you Muslims are still using as the house of your god . The same goes with the use prayer beads . This was a Hindu practice . Islam is from the devil . its purpose is to derail people from heaven . |
| Re: Only Born Again Christians Will Enter Heaven , Others 100% Hell. by ochibuogwu5: 7:15pm On Jan 20, 2021 |
Something about personal daily bible studies and quiet-time with the Holy Spirit: Please you must not force yourself unto studying 1-chapter each day, I will encourage you to start little with 3-5 verses per day or more. If you will agree with me start with the Gospel according to St. John chapter 1 from verse-1 to verse-5 today(next day 5-verses and continue like that or increase in number of verses if your understanding and retentive memory can carry it). Try to get a notebook for your bible studies. Before you start reading; pray and ask thus "Holy Spirit fill me with fresh/new understanding and revelations of Your Word as I study from John 1:1-5 as well as make Your Word to mix with faith in my heart in Jesus name. Amen." After reading this 5-verses, write out lessons that you got from it, ask yourself questions like 1. "How does this Word speak to me as if it is GOD speaking to me directly ?", 2. "In my current situation(job/marriage/business/academics/career/business) of life, where will Jesus Christ now living inside my body want to apply this words as He did while He was on earth in His own mortal-body so that the perfect-will of the Father will be manifested ?", 3. "How would Jesus Christ Crucified want to use the words contained in these passages to speak to all my friends/family/relations/colleagues/children/parents/siblings/social-media-contacts e.t.c. ?", 4. "How would Jesus Christ Crucified want to use the words contained in these passages to speak to all Christians all over the world ?", 5. "How would Jesus Christ Crucified want to use the words contained in these passages to speak to all unbelievers currently in this world ?"...... Then you begin to write out prayers for each of this situation based upon the words of these passages thus 1. Prayers that enables you to see these words as being spoken directly to you from the GOD-HEAD(Father, Son and the Holy Spirit), 2. Prayers that enables the Holy Spirit to help you apply the words of these passages in your current situation of life, 3. Prayers that enables your relatives to encounter these words in their spirit no matter there current geographical locations, 4. Prayers that releases these words fresh upon the hearts of all Christians no matter their current circumstances and geographical locations, 5. Prayers that enables the heart of unbelievers to receive the light of God's word in their hearts no matter how lost and deep into unbelief they are currently then Silence for 2-3-5 minutes for the Holy Spirit to speak more of His revealed words to your heart thus "Holy Spirit, speak in ways that I can understand you within my heart in Jesus name. Amen."...... Write down what He told you, if He spoke in that period of silence or else conclude and engage what you have learnt in more meditations(thinking-through in line with what Jesus lifestyle will engage while holding unto these words) even as you engage in concluding prayers and go for your daily activities. As you keep engaging the GOD-HEAD(Father, Son and the Holy Spirit) in these daily bible studies, your NEW CREATION LIFE IN CHRIST will continue to grow in grace and knowledge of Our Lord Jesus Christ from one degree of glory/holiness to a higher degree of glory and holiness. I hope this helps, if not drop more questions here and the Holy Spirit will help us to engage them adequately. Great Grace Brethren!!! |
| Re: Only Born Again Christians Will Enter Heaven , Others 100% Hell. by enilove(op): 9:46pm On Jan 20, 2021 |
@AntiChristian , are you ready to give your life to Jesus Christ and experience the love of God. The Bible says : Acts 4:12 KJV Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. John 14:6 KJV Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 3:17-18 KJV For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. [18] He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. Try him and see the glory of God . |
| Re: Only Born Again Christians Will Enter Heaven , Others 100% Hell. by AntiChristian: 9:47am On Jan 22, 2021 |
enilove:Jesus never told anyone to give him his life! Didn't your Jesus gave death his life at last? And mind you Bible can't talk. Mention who is talking in the Bible. Acts 4:12 KJVFrom Paul. Jesus was praying to a God. Why? Can't he just save himself with his name? John 14:6 KJVIn principle, this is the same thing all Prophets told their people. They are the way to be guided to the Lord. John 3:17-18 KJVWe believe in him as a Prophet and messenger. Just that he can't save himself not to talk of others. Also I don't need to believe in the pagan human sacrifice of God sending his son to be killed for me to be saved. Try him and see the glory of God .I think i'll pass. I worship one God Allah who has no son nor partner till I die. |
| Re: Only Born Again Christians Will Enter Heaven , Others 100% Hell. by enilove(op): 12:25pm On Jan 22, 2021 |
AntiChristian:Jesus gave his life to death because of the sins of mankind and he conquered that death because he was without sin and therefore death could not hold him captive : Romans 6:9 KJV Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. If you accept him as your Lord and saviour , second death will not have power over you . That is what Jesus promised us and I believe him. Gbenga Adeboye a radio presenter and comedian who used to entertain peoole through his albums and radio presentations , first died in October 2002 and came back to life after 6 hours , said God to him he had not fished his assignment on earth and he should come and bring his BIBLE AND HYMN BOOK . He later died in April 30th 2003 after releasing an album titles '' Aye Toto '' . In this album he said he saw angels of God in heaven worshipping God and was told he could not join them until he brings his Bible and hymn. He was a Christian but used to believe that the God of the Bible and the god of the Qur'an and the idol worshippers are all serving the same God . That was his ignorance which God corrected by proverbially telling him to come back and bring his bible and hymn book . Why was he not asked to bring with the Bible and hymn book the Quran and other things of the idolater ? Almost in all his albums he would recite the Quran , quote the bible and speak words of Idolator's incantation . He was a known christian . Which God has the power to send the dead back to life aside from his Creator . Go and listen to the album and think about this Islam which promised all Muslims hell fire until the day of resurrection . Muhammad cannot make heaven . He has been used by the devil to deceive billions of people to hell . I am sure of this . Pray that God should reveal the truth to you . |
| Re: Only Born Again Christians Will Enter Heaven , Others 100% Hell. by AntiChristian: 1:52pm On Jan 22, 2021 |
enilove:I don't reject our books. I only reject your twisting. Why do you keep omitting your pagan vicarious atonement? Why can't you explain killing human being for others to be saved. Explain and stop avoiding the question? Is Christmas, Christmas tree and Santa not Paganism? You still want more proofs that will convince you that Islam is idolatry ? They abound : The origin of Hajj is from the family of Abraham. The idolaters copied this and it was upheld again in Islam. HadithThe bolded has said it all. And what is the origin of the stone? HadithThey are not lies. And I see no bad in all these. Hajj is from Abraham and his family. And they were Muslims. The kabah too was built by idol worshippers for their idols . This is what you Muslims are still using as the house of your god .The Kaaba was first built by Prophet Ibraham and Ismaeel. Later used by the idolaters and finally reclaimed by the Prophet. The same goes with the use prayer beads . This was a Hindu practice .I don't use it. I use my hands to count as it is prescribed from the Prophet. Islam is from the devil . its purpose is to derail people from heaven.Nonsense talk. It's sure the holy spirit inside you is the devil. |
| Re: Only Born Again Christians Will Enter Heaven , Others 100% Hell. by AntiChristian: 2:05pm On Jan 22, 2021 |
enilove:Jesus forgot to tell us this. It was Paul who remembered it. And isn't this vicarious atonement paganism? If you accept him as your Lord and saviour , second death will not have power over you .Where did Jesus ever told anyone to accept him as Lord and saviour? Gbenga Adeboye a radio presenter and comedian who used to entertain peoole through his albums and radio presentations , first died in October 2002 and came back to life after 6 hours , said God to him he had not fished his assignment on earth and he should come and bring his BIBLE AND HYMN BOOK .I know him as a comedian. And those thing you wrote about him was a joke. Was hymn book written by God? Of what use are those Books in heaven? You will still be reading books after death abi? And you are learned like this? Muhammad cannot make heaven . He has been used by the devil to deceive billions of people to hell . I am sure of this .I almost thought you had a little tiny sense. But you believing a dead man came back to take the Bible and hymn book....is so insane. |
| Re: Only Born Again Christians Will Enter Heaven , Others 100% Hell. by Galatians: 6:34am On Feb 19, 2021 |
Griffelspawn:Stop deceiving people pls. |
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