Nigercity:
The truth is
The Delta ibos except some few communites in Ika
And the numerous Igbos like etche, omuma,oyibo e.t c (excluding ikwerre) have never denied there igboness even here on Nairaland
The people who always shout there are no Igbos in South/south are the ikwerres and the ijaws (with the other minorities tribe in SS) especially the ijaws who feels so much insecured about Igbos in ss (maybe becose of the Niger Delta republic dream which the wants to create with the same Igbos in SS)
And the are just the loudest, check anyone who says the are no Igbos in SS it must definitely be an ijaw man or something an ikwerre man,
Go to there Facebook group, infact everywhere the Only thing the discuss is anti Igbo,

The Igbos Rivers aside ikwerre and the ones in Delta aside Ika are very pro Igbo even here on Nairaland
Check out cjrane and co, even the other woman from Delta
So Igbos from SE should stop generalizing Igbo denials to all Igbos in SS
I could remember some years Igbo the current Delta state governor promised to make Igbo language compulsory in a school across Delta North (Delta Igbo).
Infact onistha and Asaba speaks the same language and are the same people, just separate by state creation..

So Igbos in South south are always pro Igbos


The online trolls mostly comes from other minorities tribe in SS who are insecured about there region
The yoruba people who also says there are no Igbos in SS are just ignorant or just doing for trolls

Please don't generalize here...South South are never Igbo and will not in any way be except for some few that speaks Igbo related.
Mind you Ijaws are in no way related to Igbos. Get your facts straight please....

jerosman2:
My name is Jerry Uchechukwu Oyem. Does that sound like Igbo name? Yes, but I hate being called Igbo. In fact I hate Igbo with passion. Am from Ndokwa east lg of Delta state. No so called Igbo be cos I hate yo be called that wants yo take Igbo slot. We don't need it. We are better than Igbo and Nigeria trust us than Igbo. Don't refer to us as Igbo be cos wr are not.

You are better than the igbos in the SE.
In what way?

ezigr8:


Please don't generalize here...South South are never Igbo and will not in any way be except for some few that speaks Igbo related.
Mind you Ijaws are in no way related to Igbos. Get your facts straight please....

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Is that you just post things just for the fun of trolling? So you don't know creation of states in Nigeria were mischievously done by wicked leaders just to spite the Igbos. So the Yorubas found in Edo, Kogi, Kwara are not Yorubas again? Or the Ijaws found in different states are not Ijaws again? Same as the Igalas found in Anambra state. Sometimes I wonder what you all gain in trying to heat up the political environment in Nigeria? You guys should stop this habit of propaganda and learn to travel round Nigeria to study people's culture and leave what miscreants post online.

Thewrath:

Tearing what apart? Is it not Nigeria that divided it into SS and SE? Why should you then appoint SS and then say it’s for SE,brain dey pain you?

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The person you quoted is Tinubu person, so his post towards the Igbos won't always make any sense due to 2023 election. Nobody is excluding anyone, its only a mischievous person that will advocate for non eastern region to be given the presidential slot.

AntiIgbo:


Total nonsense, thought you were making sense till it all ended in stupidity. Anioma speak a language that is mixed with Edo, Ibo and Niger Delta languages doesn't mean they are now ibos

Mumu
Is Niger delta a tribe?
Which one is Niger delta languages again

Any tribe hausas calls you in kano is what you are
Any tribe yorubas call you in Lagos is what you are

Of course, you know what they call you. Stop being foolish

I have never seen a Niger delta igbo introducing him/herself as a non igbo in SW or north because you know that if you do such so many questions will follow that will make you look stupid with your Igbo language that you speak and Igbo names that you bear

Niwdog:
Political appointment in Nigeria don't come with tribe but with the Geo political zones
So give to SE what belongs to them and SS what belongs to them
Some mischievous Yoruba and Fulani are at it again
Only the gullible Igbos (from SS and SE) will fall for their scheme
When two fulanis are appointed you wont hear they are fulanis but rather Aminu from Adamawa n/e and Sadiq from kano n/w
But if you appoint one Emeka is Emeka from Igbo as if Igbo na state abi geopolitical zone
Ndi ara!

You are right. Da'alu. They have succeeded in using divide and rule tactics.

PHijo:


You can keep on wallowing in ignorance!
You see people who don't even understand one word Igbo as Igbo?!!?

Well as far as I'm concerned they are Igbo

justosee:
Igbos should allow other minority group to choose their identity. That you share same language does not mean they should forget their history.

We have a lot of people who speak the English language but that does not make them English.

Do you mean that those people speak English language as a mother tongue and they are not English.
Please I will like to know those people.

hmm...very interesting thread and comments, I'm happy we the southeasterners have finally counted our teeth with our tongue, we will no longer do attache by force, imagine denying your ancestry because you were defeated in a war...hmmm, anyways, proudly Igbo!!!

Mokason288:
He has a point if you ask me

I’m from Delta state, Asaba precisely

I speak Igbo , I have an Igbo name

But I never agree I’m Igbo

I will always tell you I’m Anioma and I speak Aniotha

We are not Igbo

MODIFIED ... Just as Hausa Fulani, is different from Fulani
A Fulani man will never allow Hausa man to rule over him or consider both of them equals

Igbos in Delta and the rest places see themselves as south South and never south East

I HOPE I MADE SENSE

U make sense except that Hausa-Fulani never go against each other because of power. This never happened and will hardly happen.

bigfish3k:

Do you mean that those people speak English language as a mother tongue and they are not English.
Please I will like to know those people.

almost everyone in Scotland speak no other languages than English, but they are still Scottish.

there are Americans who only language on Earth is English but that doesn't make them English.

privaldo:
Age is really telling on Pius Anyim, no wonder he doesn't think properly.

Igbos should learn to stop referring to those Igbos outside the SE like people from other tribes. An Igbo man is an Igbo man, whether he's from Etche in Rivers, Anioma in Delta, Equatorial Guinea, Cameroon, or Gabon, it dosn't change the fact he's an Igbo man. Boundaries shouldn't define ones Igbo affinity.

Ohaneze Ndi Igbo should have been at the forefront of correcting this error but, it seems they are also among those fuelling it for their political gains.

A Jew will first identify as a Jew before referring to any other nationality, so the same should imply for Ndi Igbos. AN IGBO MAN IS AN IGBO MAN.

In my opinion, I don't even think fighting for the Presidency is worth it, we should be talking about developing Ala Igbo to be a world class economy and not falling for this political scheme by these politicians, who are doing this for their benefit. A world class economy would allow us have massive leverage, which in turn would allow us dictate the flow of the tide.

This has always been my point develop Ala Igbo imagine my state Imo bad road everywhere even the capital owerri you can’t drive for 3-5 minutes without slowing down for potholes the whole of Owerri you can’t boost of good road .

justosee:
almost everyone in Scotland speak no other languages than English, but they are still Scottish.

there are Americans who only language on Earth is English but that doesn't make them English.

If they don't have a native language but English then they are a subset of English.
Mind you, they are under the English

Anioma, Mbaise, Abakiliki, Ikwerre, Etche, owerri are all subsets of the igbo

It's just like saying every Mbaise man speaks igbo but still remains Mbaise

KosiGee:
I am not a fan of Pius Anyim but I endorse his speech on south east political slots not being taken advantage of by people from other zones irrespective of language similarities.
Igbos have been called expansionists etc when they extend hands of friendship and brotherhood to supposed Igbos outside the south east....

Wike is a perfect example. Watch the link below...This is Sunday Ogochukwu Oliseh denying that he is Igbo.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt-uY1GPh0Y

@Rugaria
Privaldo
Helinues
Ojiofor
AntiIgbo

so basically oliseh is saying that Yorubaland prepares you for the world

bigfish3k:

If they don't have a native language but English then they are a subset of English.
Mind you, they are under the English

Anioma, Mbaise, Abakiliki, Ikwerre, Etche, owerri are all subsets of the igbo

Scottish people are distinct from English people. we have a lot of Spanish speaking countries in the world.

We have a lot of native Spanish speaking people in America.

Some of these Igbo speaking people in Delta State said their ancestors migrated from Benin. it could be that you Southeastern Igbos copied the languages of the riverine Igbos or they copied.

waleademolaa:
Well even as a yoruba guy that I am, I won't want a yoruba from kwara or kogi taking South west turn, they're in North central. Anyim is right one this one

That's bullcrap thinking. A Yoruba man from kogi is as equal to one from ibadan...

KosiGee:
I am not a fan of Pius Anyim but I endorse his speech on south east political slots not being taken advantage of by people from other zones irrespective of language similarities.
Igbos have been called expansionists etc when they extend hands of friendship and brotherhood to supposed Igbos outside the south east....

Wike is a perfect example. Watch the link below...This is Sunday Ogochukwu Oliseh denying that he is Igbo.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt-uY1GPh0Y

@Rugaria
Privaldo
Helinues
Ojiofor
AntiIgbo

Could be that he was just joking, ...the way he said that....

justosee:
Scottish people are distinct from English people. we have a lot of Spanish speaking countries in the world.

We have a lot of native Spanish speaking people in America.

Some of these Igbo speaking people in Delta State said their ancestors migrated from Benin. it could be that you Southeastern Igbos copied the languages of the riverine Igbos or they copied.

So you mean that the igbos of more than 40 million population copied the language of people that migrated from Benin but can't speak Benin.

The Spanish and English languages spread to those places through colonization.
When and where did the Igbos colonize the supposed Benin migrants to the extent of transfering igbo language to them.
Confusion is a bad thing. I swear

If you all are saying that igbos didn't spread, how come their language spread to the Niger Delta.
Explain

So Benin spread and their language didn't spread they were just busy copying and speaking igbo languages after spreading. Confusion is really a bad thing

Why are the igbo contradicting themselves about General Leo Irabor:

1) Some igbo want to keep claiming buhari is anti-igbo, so they claim that Leo Irabor is not igbo and no igbo was appointed by buhari into the head of defence. So these igbo would accept the fact that Anioma are not igbo (which is true, but irrelevant for this discussion)

2) Some igbo want to keep claiming Anioma in order to claim the land on which the Anioma live in the event of a break up of nigeria (to those guys, anioma are not igbo, but they should be convinced of being igbo because "their land is good" and it would be good to grab that land)

Rugaria:

Could be that he was just joking, ...the way he said that....

He wasn't joking and please don't make excuses for him I know how emotional Igbos can be.

bigfish3k:

So you mean that the igbos of more than 40 million population copied the language of people that migrated from Benin but can't speak Benin.

The Spanish and English languages spread to those places through colonization.
When and where did the Igbos colonize the supposed Benin migrants to the extent of transfering igbo language to them.
Confusion is a bad thing. I swear

Nnamdi Kanu said you guys are Jewish, how did you guys learned the Igbo language? or igbo is the language spoken in Israel

The one good thing coming out of this is the name "Irabor" which is an Edo name. Eventhough, there may be various reasons why a person would be bearing an Edo name. For example obama is not Edo, yet his name is an Edo name, if you saw an edo person with that name, it wouldn't shock you.
But the main "argument" of the igbo supremacists has always been: "their name is emaka, therefor they are igbo", now they see an Anioma with the name Irabor and they quickly throw away their previous standard argument and scramble for a new one.

Let me make it simple: Anioma are Edo, period.

Sammy07:


NwanyiOgwashi and chocho54 have been rejected

See exactly the game plan of yorubas, to create disunity among Igbos.
They have not been rejected,, but their federal political rights is in SS,
geopolitical region not SE.

privaldo:


Please understand the context of the original post, da'alu.

Da alu o... I understand your view point but which other way do you want him to say it? Once they mention south east, it becomes a feast for all but when you mention south South, it's exclusive. Anyim is just saying that we shouldn't lose focus of the discussion

Mokason288:
He has a point if you ask me

I’m from Delta state, Asaba precisely

I speak Igbo , I have an Igbo name

But I never agree I’m Igbo

I will always tell you I’m Anioma and I speak Aniotha

We are not Igbo

MODIFIED ... Just as Hausa Fulani, is different from Fulani
A Fulani man will never allow Hausa man to rule over him or consider both of them equals

Igbos in Delta and the rest places see themselves as south South and never south East

I HOPE I MADE SENSE

Speak for yourself. I am Delta (Agbor) I also have Igbo name. I am 100% Igbo.

herich:

See exactly the game plan of yorubas, to create disunity among Igbos.
They have not been rejected,, but their federal political rights is in SS,
geopolitical region not SE.

Anioma are Edo, not igbo

Below is the Dein of Agbor, who does he dress exactly like ?

https://www.facebook.com/ASIRIMagazine/photos/1555170664515080

https://www.pinterest.fr/pin/463378249131808718/

MightySparrow:
Kaduna Ezeogu, Ebele Jonathan, Michael Obasanjo, Rotimi Amaech are Igbo.

Tinubu Tochi, Igbo man, 2023!

which wan be Michael obasanjo again

igbo guys (south-east) are playing a dubious game of claiming and trying to charm Anioma for the only reason of claiming their land.
I warn my Anioma people, if you fall for this and join igbo in the event of the break up of nigeria, genocide or marginalisation is what awaits us. Then their masks will fall. And they will call us what they know us to be : Edo !
Our only salvation lies with our Edo people.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXZ9rJVIMh4

justosee:
Nnamdi Kanu said you guys are Jewish, how did you guys learned the Igbo language? or igbo is the language spoken in Israel

Igbo language is original to the igbos, we didn't copy it anywhere.

Do you want to tell me that there are no language variations in Israel?

dumodust:

Da alu o... I understand your view point but which other way do you want him to say it? Once they mention south east, it becomes a feast for all but when you mention south South, it's exclusive. Anyim is just saying that we shouldn't lose focus of the discussion

Nwanne, my issue he would have said SE and SS instead of implying Igbos, and causing further division between the SE and SS Igbos.

bigfish3k:

Igbo language is original to the igbos, we didn't copy it anywhere.

Do you want to tell me that there are no language variations in Israel?

there was only 1 language in Israel and it is the Hebrew language. all Israelites came from same ancestor.

privaldo:


Nwanne, my issue he would have said SE and SS instead of implying Igbos, and causing further division between the SE and SS Igbos.

There is no such thing as ss igbos to start with, forget your silly dreams, we are not igbo and do not intend to become igbo. Keep your igbo tag for yourselves. Stop claiming your tag for others, if we want to be known as igbo, our traditional rulers will make a speach and say it loudly. It doesn't fall on an igbo guy sitting in enugu to start claiming Anioma are igbo. We don't need you guys to speak on our behaf.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXZ9rJVIMh4