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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by angelfallz(m): 8:39pm On Jan 31, 2021
bukatyne:


1. The prove in point three was sarcasm. It is often passages lifted out of context and in isolation. For instance, God punished Adam for listening to his wife (Eve) and told Abraham to listen to his wife (Sarah) in certain situations. TRP would pick scenario 1 and say even The Bible knows men listening to their wives bring doom. Modern-feminism would pick scenario 2 and say even God told men to obey their wives.
A simple test is: what would Jesus do?

2. Hahahahahaha! I nor do any modern kankan.

Edit: That is lifting the Bible out of context. Joseph found out his virgin bethrode was pregnant and decided to end the engagement without shame to her (Mercy and compassion). God appeared to him and explained the situation.

That is parallel to paternity fraud and except the woman is a virgin trying to birth 2nd Jesus, they don't compare.

Funny, TRP can pick that same verse and advise men should marry only virgins because Jesus was born through one and a non-virgin single lady is impure.

Anyone who is a Christian, filled with the Holy Spirit knows the Biblical stance on these issues.

Not surprised that people mix and match for their desired end: Even Satan quoted the Bible to Jesus when he tempted Him in the wilderness.

I've never seen where TRP tells men to marry virgins
Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by bukatyne(f): 8:49pm On Jan 31, 2021
RisenPhoenix1:


It's all a case of interpretation. If you had said that TRP and feminism clash with your personally favoured interpretation of the Bible, I would not have objected. But you stated 'christianity'. There is no proof that your interpretations are more correct or doctrinal than theirs.

Pentecostal Christianity is the most modern of Kankans. It can easily be traced to its origins, even though pentecostals claim to be following the original form; just like all other Christians. Who's to say what is right?

All those verses you cited fit into the narrative. There is no contextual background that clearly contradicts the interpretation given to them. Listening to Eve did bring grief to Adam, and Joseph did eventually take care of a child not his own.

Did it occur to you that your last statement may be exactly what other Christians think of your own interpretation?

Every Bible Believing Christian agree on certain concepts: that's what makes one a Christian.

There is no flavour of mine in this neither did I bring in doctrine.

If I were to start talking about honouring Mary, use of earrings and makeup, day of worship, uniform or not, footwear or not, trousers, hair do etc. then we're are talking about doctrine which can be subjective.

For instance, When the Bible says 'thou shall not kill'; what is there to debate? If modern-feminism comes with the talk of a foetus has no life bla bla... God told Jeremiah that 'before you were born, I knew you and have appointed you as a prophet to nations'. What other interpretation or flavour do I need to add to it? Does God's stance align with modern-feminism's stance? No. I pick God's and move on.

Modern-feminism kicks against patriarchy. What does the Bible say? Husband is the head of his wife as Christ is the head of the Church. This doesn't align, I pick what the Bible says and move on.

In the issues I pointed out, there is no room for personal interpretation.

True Christians know what is right. Others can twist and turn to assuage their conscience.

Pentecostal Christianity is derived from the Church of Acts which was birthed by the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. 'Pentecost' refers to the event of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit.

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by bukatyne(f): 8:51pm On Jan 31, 2021
angelfallz:


I've never seen where TRP tells men to marry virgins

This was an analogy bros.

The same way I have never seen where modern-feminism told women to commit paternity fraud. grin
Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by livingchrist: 8:55pm On Jan 31, 2021
The only issue I have with op, is the use of the word 'modern feminism'.
If you want to condemn feminism and red pill condemn them in its entirety and stop trying to cover up for one and throw the other under the bus.
Feminism itself is incompatible with christianity not just modern feminism.
A good tree can not bring up corrupt fruit neither will a corrupt tree bring up good fruit.
Modern feminism is the fruit of the corrupt tree called feminism itself hence it is bad.

Same thing with red pill, although both contain some elements of facts but their aim at the end of the day is one and the same, social engineering towards the luciferian new world order.

Feminism not just modern feminism is not comparable with christianity..
Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by crackhaus: 9:09pm On Jan 31, 2021
bukatyne:

@bold: funny, they are two sides of same coin o jare.

1. @ bold: a major problem. Jesus the Lamb/Shepherd is easier to 'picture' aka anything goes than Jesus the Lion/Lord who threw the traders out of the temple and cursed the fig tree.
Before nko...

Anyhow, I personally like TRP just for the fact that it makes feminists very restless cheesy

Anything that's a thorn on the flesh of pseudos, SJWs, and the few true feminists themselves, is okay by me. grin

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by Nobody: 9:29pm On Jan 31, 2021
bukatyne:


Every Bible Believing Christian agree on certain concepts: that's what makes one a Christian.

[quote author=bukatyne post=98617328]
There is no flavour of mine in this neither did I bring in doctrine.

Here we go again with the 'no true Scotsman' fallacy. No Christian identifies as a non Bible-believing Christian to my knowledge. You follow doctrine that you must have heard from someone. What makes you so sure that you are on the right version?

bukatyne:

If I were to start talking about honouring Mary, use of earrings and makeup, day of worship, uniform or not, footwear or not, trousers, hair do etc. then we're are talking about doctrine which can be subjective.

Arguably, what constitutes submission of a wife, and responsibility in a husband as well as gender roles in family and society are also subjective terms that are open to different interpretations. Just look at how the word 'helpmate' is interpreted in dozens of different ways; from financial partner to emotional supporter; by Bible-believing Christians.

bukatyne:

For instance, When the Bible says 'thou shall not kill'; what is there to debate? If modern-feminism comes with the talk of a foetus has no life bla bla... God told Jeremiah that 'before you were born, I knew you and have appointed you as a prophet to nations'. What other interpretation or flavour do I need to add to it? Does God's stance align with modern-feminism's stance? No. I pick God's and move on.

Feminists would argue that you took that scripture out of context, the same way you blamed them earlier for doing the same. I am surprised that someone with your obvious intelligence cannot see flaws that you accuse others of, when you do them.

bukatyne:

Modern-feminism kicks against patriarchy. What does the Bible say? Husband is the head of his wife as Christ is the head of the Church. This doesn't align, I pick what the Bible says and move on.

In the issues I pointed out, there is no room for personal interpretation.

I'm neither on the side or against the possibility of finding a case for either feminism or TRP in the Bible, so I can't counter your arguments against certain feminist concepts. My only objection is that you both use the same methods to cherry pick verses from the Bible to prove what you want them to say, while claiming orthodoxy. So yes, they are in fact, personal interpretations despite your denial.

bukatyne:

True Christians know what is right. Others can twist and turn to assuage their conscience.

Ah yes, but who these 'true Christians' are is the precise point of contention. You say it's you, they say it's them. Neither of you can prove it conclusively.

bukatyne:

Pentecostal Christianity is derived from the Church of Acts which was birthed by the outpouring of the Holy Spirit. 'Pentecost' refers to the event of the outpouring of the Holy Spirit.


I was referring to doctrine, not nomenclature. Actually, modern day Pentecostal Christians are doctrinally very dissimilar from early Christians as pointed out severally by theology historians and Bible experts like Drs Bruce Metzger and Bart Ehrmann to mention a few. And even if we accept that single trait of speaking in tongues and holy spirit inspiration of the laity as delineating factors between true Christian Pentecostalism and the rest of 'fake' Christendom, then there were no 'true Christians' in the period between sometime around the period of that event in Acts, and the rise of modern Pentecostalism with the early 20th century apocalyptic revivalist movement.

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by Shortyyy(f): 9:40pm On Jan 31, 2021
Ladyhippolyta88:

When I was a christian I did.

I see religion as something personal between me and my God I don't mix both if it were so many christians would have discarded science a long time ago since they needed to pick a side.It is not in your place to pick what is anti-christian I don't like religious fanatism I see humans before anything else in my relationship with people.


You're so on point.

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by Shortyyy(f): 9:42pm On Jan 31, 2021
Ladyhippolyta88:

1.Christianity is a religion and perfectly fits the description of what religion is.I don't have time to argue illusion about it not being a religion

2.Science does not agree with christianity Science tells us that the earth is spherical the bible says the earth has 4 corners.Science tells us we evolved and are animals and Dinosaurs once existed the bible tells us something different and many more in the mind of a fanatic it is anti-christian in the USA religious fanatics have argued that evolution and science should not be taught because it is anti-christian.Same can be said about nothing being wrong with feminism or christianity but it depends on how you use it.

3.You just said you did not write the bible so what gave you the right or authority to choose what philosophy is christian.The bible over time has been written,rewritten and edited so how do you interpret the bible do you take the literal approach?The bible is subject to different human interpretations and religion is influenced by culture so what makes you think your own interpretation of the holy book is supreme you seem to forget that there are many denominations of christianity and as such results in different interpretations

4.Religious fanatism came into the discussion when you tried to claim superior authority on who a christian is and what philosophies christianity supports and does not who gave you such authority?It spans from fanatism

Please, which drink will it be?

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 10:19pm On Jan 31, 2021
Shortyyy:


Please, which drink will it be?

Anyone you would like.


Thank you smiley

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 10:21pm On Jan 31, 2021
livingchrist:
The only issue I have with op, is the use of the word 'modern feminism'.
If you want to condemn feminism and red pill condemn them in its entirety and stop trying to cover up for one and throw the other under the bus.
Feminism itself is incompatible with christianity not just modern feminism.
A good tree can not bring up corrupt fruit neither will a corrupt tree bring up good fruit.
Modern feminism is the fruit of the corrupt tree called feminism itself hence it is bad.

Same thing with red pill, although both contain some elements of facts but their aim at the end of the day is one and the same, social engineering towards the luciferian new world order.

Feminism not just modern feminism is not comparable with christianity..
You trashed feminism but could not trash redpill go and sit down jaare we see through your bias.If not for feminism the women around you would have been nothing I am sure you would have prefered it that way.

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by crackhaus: 10:27pm On Jan 31, 2021
bukatyne:

2. Modern Pop ....... Out of the window. Any Christian teaching classified as 'modern' is off the mark! The Bible has not been updated so where are they getting their modern from? There are basic tenets in Christianity about marriage, sex, male/female relationships, dressing etc.
This is quite funny, so accurate, and yet still truly devastating, all at the same time. grin

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by livingchrist: 10:50pm On Jan 31, 2021
Really? Women were nothing before feminism? So much ignorance being displayed here.
Read true history not the propaganda by feminists.
Did you see where I said feminism and red pill are serving same purpose?
Look I dont subscribe to any egalitarian/ utopian philosophy of creating a better society by human involvement or any other garbage the liberalist/luciferians are trumpeting.
It is all a lie, humans male and female are equally corrupt and there can never be a better society built by humans it's all deception.
Ladyhippolyta88:

You trashed feminism but could not trash redpill go and sit down jaare we see through your bias.If not for feminism the women around you would have been nothing I am sure you would have prefered it that way.
Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 11:23pm On Jan 31, 2021
livingchrist:
Really? Women were nothing before feminism? So much ignorance being displayed here.
Read true history not the propaganda by feminists.
Did you see where I said feminism and red pill are serving same purpose?
Look I dont subscribe to any egalitarian/ utopian philosophy of creating a better society by human involvement or any other garbage the liberalist/luciferians are trumpeting.
It is all a lie, humans male and female are equally corrupt and there can never be a better society built by humans it's all deception.
Please teach me where in history women had any achievements before feminism I want to learn why then did women advocate for it since it was there all along?teach me valid and factual history if you cannot then you are the ignorant one spreading propaganda.
I don't care what ideology you subscribe to but it is obvious you are confused about liberalism or whatever lucifer you are talking about and your ignorance is appaling where did they create a utopian society?since they are all corrupt no argument on that why are you bothering yourself to serve God since you believe that all humans cannot be better than what they are now of what point is that or what then is the purpose of being born again?I just needed to ask this question it is very obvious you have a shortsighted view on feminism and liberalism and the successes these two movements have made have proven to you that it is not a lie or impossible to achieve also why do you tie corruption to the two since society can never be better than it is.That alone is a lie yes no system or society is perfect but hustory tells us it can be better.Feudalism,socialism,authoritarianism,oligharcy,aristocracy,autocracy, theocracy,gerontocracy all came and are still around but there is a general concensus that democracy is a better form of government than all the aforementioned and this was a system developed by humans so yes humans evolve and get better though not perfect.If that is the case that human involvement is trash why are you using things invented by humans that were espoused through a philosophy made by humans why then is society more civilized compared to past times that were much more stringent and restrictive as history tells us?why
Humans have that drive to search discover,invent know things and get better which is why society keeps evolving over time to embrace new ideas so saying that society cannot be better is a lie it was much worse than this if people had thought like you reason right now we would have been stuck in the stone age and one wonders why Africa is like this because people like you refuse to think towards new ideas it defeats your statement that it was a lie because humans craved for a much more better society and time after time embraced and discared new ideas in a nutshell I don't think you understand what you are saying.

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by 1Sharon(f): 11:48pm On Jan 31, 2021
Does it mean that the churches with women preachers and pastors are anti-christian too?

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by cooooooks(m): 7:54am On Feb 01, 2021
Let's not join Black Americans who never fail to insult each other.

I'm happy to see another 'sensible' Naija lady online. I have met a good number in person. There are more sensible people, hopefully, than nonsensical.

Have a good day. smiley

sweetmelanin:
Nice write-up Buka.

Although, I think the Nigerian version of the "red pill" is highly misconstrued.. the movement is supposed to represent a mass awakening of men into the realisation that they've been handed a bad deal in modern relationships and marriage.

We live in a time where the very essence of masculinity is being branded as toxic/misogyny.. men are not allowed live in their true nature anymore, yet are still expected to remain traditionally chivalrous.. still providing and protecting women who are now supposedly "equal" to men and told to forgo their own nature to nurture the home and submit under her husband's authority.

..the many subgroups within the redpill movement all have a common goal .. and that is to reject the terrible aftermath of modern feminism as you have clearly explained in your write-up i.e.increased abortions (murder), rude, bitter and promiscous women, broken homes, displaced children, enmity between man and woman etc...

Too bad Nigerians have hijacked the term red pill as a excuse for throwing profanity and spreading sexual decadence.. Makes it hard for anti 'modern-feminism' women like myself to truly take a stance against the absolute depravity feminism has become.
Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by Priestley91(m): 11:37am On Feb 01, 2021
Truth is so obscure in these times, and falshood so established, that unless we love the truth we cannot know it. -Blaise Pascal.

A certain spokesman in the former Administration, once stated something quite relating, the comments there and the comments here seems to be moving in a tangent, and a quite predictable direction.

it's quite amusing watching the "Yay" & the "Nay" party trying to so much sell a narrative, sell an agenda, sell a philosophy; with intruments like subjectivism ,half-truths , and outright falsehood.

"The truth" is so scarce and the lines has been so blurred,as such; opinions, narratives,bias, prejudices, predispositions etcetera are passed for 'truth'.

For the 'Christian' (not the atheist,not the agnostic,not the skeptic,not the church-go'er',not the Muslim,not the buddhist & certainly not to the Satanist) ; the question is a question of allegiance, is it to 'christ' or a philosophy,a principle,an idea or a social movement.

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by crackhaus: 11:47am On Feb 01, 2021
livingchrist:
It is all a lie, humans male and female are equally corrupt and there can never be a better society built by humans it's all deception.
The earlier people will understand and make peace with this, the better for everyone.

There's no innocent gender, and I always find it funny when women project themselves as some sort of angels - makes me giggle nonstop.

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by angelfallz(m): 1:17pm On Feb 01, 2021
crackhaus:

The earlier people will understand and make peace with this, the better for everyone.

There's no innocent gender, and I always find it funny when women project themselves as some sort of angels - makes me giggle nonstop.

Some Men also project women as angels, in fact some men are ready to fight you if you dont agree with them that woman are angels.

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by crackhaus: 1:23pm On Feb 01, 2021
angelfallz:

Some Men also project women as angels, in fact some men are ready to fight you if you dont agree with them that woman are angels.
They don't know any better.

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by Nobody: 5:40pm On Feb 01, 2021
cooooooks:
Let's not join Black Americans who never fail to insult each other.

I'm happy to see another 'sensible' Naija lady online. I have met a good number in person. There are more sensible people, hopefully, than nonsensical.

Have a good day. smiley


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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by LilMissFavvy(f): 6:46pm On Feb 01, 2021
Thank you, you said it all. I only read the first paragraph of the long epistle. There is nothing wrong with women fighting for equal rights/opportunities. There is nothing wrong with women asking to be treated fairly as their male counterparts, healthy feminism is not anti Christian. There were women in the Bible who asked for their rights, there were biblical women who spoke up when they felt things were not alright. Example of such women can be seen in Numbers 27:3-4 where the daughters of zelophehad spoke up and asked why they were not allowed to inherit their late father's properties just because they were girls, and had no brother. They stood their ground asking to inherit, and Moses had to enquire from God on what he should do. In vs 8-9 God told Moses that the girls were right, and God said henceforth, daughters should be allowed to inherit. If such girls spoke up in our world of today, of course they would be tagged as feminists/ anti Christian. Some pastors would have condemned them, their fellow women would have condemned them. This is why I agree that some people use religion to hold women back, this should not be so. I have read several cases where a wife goes to seek counselling from a pastor about marital physical abuse from her husband, and such pastors will be quick to remind her to be submissive, and take it, and bear the pains. In one of such stories, the pastor was not even interested in counselling the husband as well, quite sad. Occurrences like these should not make women deviate from the Christian faith, God loves women.
I can bet that patriarchy where women played traditional roles and men were heads/breadwinners, must have been very frustrating to women, because it means if oga horseband is angry with his wife, he can withdraw his finances and frustrate her as he wishes, after all she is dependent and helpless. Why should any modern woman wish that we still lived in the dust? Whoever does not know the benefits of equal treatments clamoured by feminists, should go back and read histories. Healthy feminism Is not anti Christian.
Ladyhippolyta88:

a lot of scholars and strong men used christianity and religion as a reason for holding women back be sincere with yourself.

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by cooooooks(m): 7:08pm On Feb 01, 2021
Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by livingchrist: 8:35pm On Feb 01, 2021
Ladyhippolyta88:

Please teach me where in history women had any achievements before feminism I want to learn why then did women advocate for it since it was there all along?[/b]teach me valid and factual history if you cannot then you are the ignorant one spreading propaganda.
you said women didnt achieve anything before feminism, kindly tell me who is a Cleopatra, queen Idia of benin kingdom, queen of sheba?


I don't care what ideology you subscribe to but it is obvious you are confused about liberalism or whatever lucifer you are talking about and your ignorance is appaling where did they create a utopian society?
see where your stupidity has landed you, where did I say humans create a utopian society, you have comprehension issue.
See who is talking of ignorance,

since they are all corrupt no argument on that why are you bothering yourself to serve God since you believe that all humans cannot be better than what they are now of what point is that or what then is the purpose of being born again?I just needed to ask this question it is very obvious you have a shortsighted view on feminism and liberalism and the successes these two movements have made have proven to you that it is not a lie or impossible to achieve also why do you tie corruption to the two since society can never be better than it is.That alone is a lie yes no system or society is perfect but hustory tells us it can be better.
lol, look the only way humans can be better is to submit to God. I am a Christian, the only way humanity can be better is by the gospel not by movements/ some ideologues of philosophy.

Feudalism,socialism,authoritarianism,oligharcy,aristocracy,autocracy, theocracy,gerontocracy all came and are still around but there is a general concensus that democracy is a better form of government than all the aforementioned and this was a system developed by humans so yes humans evolve and get better though not perfect.If that is the case that human involvement is trash why are you using things invented by humans that were espoused through a philosophy made by humans why then is society more civilized compared to past times that were much more stringent and restrictive as history tells us?why
Humans have that drive to search discover,invent know things and get better which is why society keeps evolving over time to embrace new ideas so saying that society cannot be better is a lie it was much worse than this if people had thought like you reason right now we would have been stuck in the stone age and one wonders why Africa is like this because people like you refuse to think towards new ideas it defeats your statement that it was a lie because humans craved for a much more better society and time after time embraced and discared new ideas in a nutshell I don't think you understand what you are saying.
you have a serious issue on comprehension.
Lol, I see human advancement in the shameful display of immoralities, homosexuality, depravity, murder/abortion wow such a womderful feat.
never since the creation of the world till now has humans carried out evils with such suffistication/and self justification. The more knowledge humans have the more better and subtle ways to carry out evil after all humans are their own gods (demoncracy).
I laugh at your foolishness and ignorance

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by livingchrist: 8:38pm On Feb 01, 2021
crackhaus:

The earlier people will understand and make peace with this, the better for everyone.

There's no innocent gender, and I always find it funny when women project themselves as some sort of angels - makes me giggle nonstop.
That is what they fail to understand man and woman both are equally guilty no one is better.

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by livingchrist: 8:50pm On Feb 01, 2021
LilMissFavvy:
Thank you, you said it all. I only read the first paragraph of the long epistle. There is nothing wrong with women fighting for equal rights/opportunities. There is nothing wrong with women asking to be treated fairly as their male counterparts, healthy feminism is not anti Christian. There were women in the Bible who asked for their rights, there were biblical women who spoke up when they felt things were not alright. Example of such women can be seen in Numbers 27:3-4 where the daughters of zelophehad spoke up and asked why they were not allowed to inherit their late father's properties just because they were girls, and had no brother. They stood their ground asking to inherit, and Moses had to enquire from God on what he should do. In vs 8-9 God told Moses that the girls were right, and God said henceforth, daughters should be allowed to inherit. If such girls spoke up in our world of today, of course they would be tagged as feminists/ anti Christian. Some pastors would have condemned them, their fellow women would have condemned them. This is why I agree that some people use religion to hold women back, this should not be so. I have read several cases where a wife goes to seek counselling from a pastor about marital physical abuse from her husband, and such pastors will be quick to remind her to be submissive, and take it, and bear the pains. In one of such stories, the pastor was not even interested in counselling the husband as well, quite sad. Occurrences like these should not make women deviate from the Christian faith, God loves women.
I can bet that patriarchy where women played traditional roles and men were heads/breadwinners, must have been very frustrating to women, because it means if oga horseband is angry with his wife, he can withdraw his finances and frustrate her as he wishes, after all she is dependent and helpless. Why should any modern woman wish that we still lived in the dust? Whoever does not know the benefits of equal treatments clamoured by feminists, should go back and read histories. Healthy feminism Is not anti Christian.
see who is talking, calling husband horseband, deceiving yourself, a Christian woman will never call her husband horseband, sarah the mother of all christian women called sarah Lord. Lol How is this compatible with feminism?
Feminism can never be compatible with christian values, lol same God that place husband as the head of the wife,so how is this compatible with feminism. God is anti feminism.

Patriachy simply means men protecting their family or society which include women that is exactly what moses did to those daughters by giving them their father's inheritance, it had nothing to do with feminism.

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by Nobody: 8:54pm On Feb 01, 2021
bukatyne:


I asked a question, you said I should read about it.

If I have come across a TRP post talking about the short coming of men as a gender, I would have stated it here.

Help me, I am listening.

I did not say they're are same, I said Game theory is a subset of TRP.

So you support the teaching that a man should not sleep with only one woman so he breaks the monopoly she has on his emotions? I.e. a husband should cheat sometimes to reset his emotions?



Oneitis never talks about men sleeping with multiple women......

I don't need to say more Sha
Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 9:13pm On Feb 01, 2021
livingchrist:
you said women didnt achieve anything before feminism, kindly tell me who is a Cleopatra, queen Idia of benin kingdom, queen of sheba
These two names you mentioned are two women in the midst of how many?are you okay even in ancient Greece and ancient times history clearly tells us women were restricted and denied certain rights in ancient greece boys from age of 7 only had the right to an education and in your myopic and silly mind these are the only names you saw to tell me it clearly shows that you are the ignorant one spreading silly propaganda do you even know the story of Cleopatra that you are here using her as an example on what exactly?what exactly does history remember them for what did they invent or anything unique did they do tell me?you obviously don't know what you are saying here just confusing yourself


see where your stupidity has landed you, where did I say humans create a utopian society, you have comprehension issue.
See who is talking of ignorance
I would advise that next time you don't insult me and you are the silly one here don't call me stupid next time you said that they propagated a utopian society and I asked you how that was even possible or can you not comprehend?

lol, look the only way humans can be better is to submit to God. I am a Christian, the only way humanity can be better is by the gospel not by movements/ some ideologues of philosophy
That is your own belief which is not entirely true because not every society that grew and evolved served God so keep your religiousity to yourself.

you have a serious issue on comprehension.
Lol, I see human advancement in the shameful display of immoralities, homosexuality, depravity, murder/abortion wow such a womderful feat.
never since the creation of the world till now has humans carried out evils with such suffistication/and self justification. The more knowledge humans have the more better and subtle ways to carry out evil after all humans are their own gods (demoncracy).
I laugh at your foolishness and ignorance
You are the one who lacks comprehension and ended up saying nothing but balderdash immorality,homosexuality,depravity and all what you have listed has been on since the beginning of time if you were a serious or intelligent person interested in history you will know this nothing is hidden under the sun and everything you have listed has been happening since creation nothing new here just your ignorance in display
The same way the more knowledge humans have the better they are and the inventions and benefits you are currently enjoying are as a result of the advancement in human knowledge.
Actually every sane person reading this thread knows that you are the foolish and ignorant one and they are currently laughing at you that you are not an intelligent person seek knowledge and stop being myopic and seeing life from that hut of yours open your eyes and stop being closeminded.

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by livingchrist: 11:47pm On Feb 01, 2021
Ladyhippolyta88:
These two names you mentioned are two women in the midst of how many?are you okay even in ancient Greece and ancient times history clearly tells us women were restricted and denied certain rights in ancient greece boys from age of 7 only had the right to an education and in your myopic and silly mind these are the only names you saw to tell me it clearly shows that you are the ignorant one spreading silly propaganda do you even know the story of Cleopatra that you are here using her as an example on what exactly?what exactly does history remember them for what did they invent or anything unique did they do tell me?you obviously don't know what you are saying here just confusing yourself
lol how many ancient men invented things few.
The fact is those women didnt need feminism to do what they did.
There were limitations for both male and female in fact men were the target of war most times, survival instinct made men to discover many things, it has nothing to do with gender bias.


I would advise that next time you don't insult me and you are the silly one here don't call me stupid next time you said that they propagated a utopian society and I asked you how that was even possible or can you not comprehend?
you were the one that started with subtle jabs and insults, I only wanted you to taste your own medicine. I hope you learned

That is your own belief which is not entirely true because not every society that grew and evolved served God so keep your religiousity to yourself.


You are the one who lacks comprehension and ended up saying nothing but balderdash immorality,homosexuality,depravity and all what you have listed has been on since the beginning of time if you were a serious or intelligent person interested in history you will know this nothing is hidden under the sun and everything you have listed has been happening since creation nothing new here just your ignorance in display
The same way the more knowledge humans have the better they are and the inventions and benefits you are currently enjoying are as a result of the advancement in human knowledge.
Actually every sane person reading this thread knows that you are the foolish and ignorant one and they are currently laughing at you that you are not an intelligent person seek knowledge and stop being myopic and seeing life from that hut of yours open your eyes and stop being closeminded.
I repeat learn to understand before replying, it will help you alot and add polite communications, so that you dont draw unnecessary bad blood. Have a nice day.

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by Nobody: 6:38am On Feb 02, 2021
Ladyhippolyta88:

Please teach me where in history women had any achievements before feminism I want to learn why then did women advocate for it since it was there all along?

Not my convo, but want to correct a misconception. Women's achievements on earth are essentially insignificant; whether before or after feminism. There are of course, a few outliers who broke grounds, but in the vast overwhelming main, this earth was made by men...again, both before feminism and after it. The only achievement feminism has to show is the corruption of morals and the destruction of family values. Feminism has introduced no new scientific discovery, technological achievement or solved any economic issue. Men do that.

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 7:15am On Feb 02, 2021
livingchrist:
lol how many ancient men invented things few.
The fact is those women didnt need feminism to do what they did
The simple question is what did they do?you don't even know and who were the notable women you wanna mention grin
There were limitations for both male and female in fact men were the target of war most times, survival instinct made men to discover many things, it has nothing to do with gender bias.
It has a lot to do with gender bias denying this is denying reality and what history tells us.What were the restrictions and limitations for men I want to know you keep saying things you have no idea about or even understand at all explain.In a society where there was no war or need for survival instincts so what was holding women back at the time?If it was not gender bias and societal stereotypes.


you were the one that started with subtle jabs and insults, I only wanted you to taste your own medicine. I hope you learned

I repeat learn to understand before replying, it will help you alot and add polite communications, so that you dont draw unnecessary bad blood. Have a nice day.
Calling you ignorant and not being intelligent was not an insult I have not learned anything neither is there anything to learn because I am very good at insulting people too but for the sake of civility you respect yourself that was why in my reply I used your own insulting words against you.Mr man I am a communicator and eloquent person already you should be the one who should learn how to communicate and say things that are meaningful or what ever advice you gave.
You ended up saying nothing about the subject because truth be told you don't know what to reply about the subject.You said women had something before feminism you could not say what it was but went to talk about Cleopatra and Sheba how does that even help your argument

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 7:17am On Feb 02, 2021
RisenPhoenix1:


[s]Not my convo, but want to correct a misconception. Women's achievements on earth are essentially insignificant; whether before or after feminism. There are of course, a few outliers who broke grounds, but in the vast overwhelming main, this earth was made by men...again, both before feminism and after it. The only achievement feminism has to show is the corruption of morals and the destruction of family values. Feminism has introduced no new scientific discovery, technological achievement or solved any economic issue. Men do that[/s].

Balderdash thank the heavens this is not true but just the rants of an entitled male with a deflated ego.Don't quote me again and go back to your hut.

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Re: Christianity Is Anti Modern-feminism And Red Pill by cococandy(f): 7:25am On Feb 02, 2021
And you learned this from history that was written by men of course. cool
And conveniently forgot when parents (fathers) prohibited their female children from higher education. Even punished them for it. But blame women for it. Go off.

And in-spite of those obstacles, women made strides far more than expected from them. But that doesn’t fit your narrative .
RisenPhoenix1:


Not my convo, but want to correct a misconception. Women's achievements on earth are essentially insignificant; whether before or after feminism. There are of course, a few outliers who broke grounds, but in the vast overwhelming main, this earth was made by men...again, both before feminism and after it. The only achievement feminism has to show is the corruption of morals and the destruction of family values. Feminism has introduced no new scientific discovery, technological achievement or solved any economic issue. Men do that.

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