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BLOODYSPERM:
Redpill is man made wisdom
Same as Biology and physics

Ladyhippolyta88:
There is nothing true there because thanks to feminism we now have female inventors and women breaking barriers you know this is the truth but yet claim there is no achievement which you know is a lie.I will not want to waste my time refuting the claims of someone living in mars who is oblivious of the current change happening around him or choses to deny it.As long as we know and see women achieving things fought for by suffragettes your ignorant opinion of lies is of no use to reality.
Keep deceiving yourself but the sane world knows women's achievements are significant and we will keep celebrating them encouraging and advocating for more that will benefit our daughters

Mindlog:
So if I don't embrace the philosophy of Red pill, I have no right to embrace formal education?

cococandy:
killed? Who said they were killed?



And I do leave you to your willful ignorance.
Yes women have always had the same educational opportunities that men had.

cococandy:
And you learned this from history that was written by men of course.
And conveniently forgot when parents (fathers) prohibited their female children from higher education. Even punished them for it. But blame women for it. Go off.

And in-spite of those obstacles, women made strides far more than expected from them. But that doesn’t fit your narrative .

BLOODYSPERM:
Don't judge the redpill community if you know nothing about it

Mindlog:
My thought pattern is not tied to the need to feel superior to any gender, tribe or race and neither will I condone anyone trying to diminish me because of their need to subjugate another in the desire to validate identity. My sights are set on things entirely different.

If you felt the original poster of this thread misrepresented redpill, you can create a thread focused on how redpill aligns with Christianity, how it fosters healthy marriages and families in general, I work with people with alternative perceptions and so would have no issues reading what you have to put up in the thread.

BLOODYSPERM:
Ok

We are not claiming superiority, neither are we accepting equality

angelfallz:
Lovely write up Buka.

But i must address your definition of TRP and what you feel it is all about.
TRP does not teach men how to game women. There is a whole other teaching on how to game women, which is called "GAME". It is different from TRP.
TRP teaches men about Solipsism of women, how to identify it and how to handle it. It also teaches men to put focus and develop themselves. Now, i know i have corrected you before about your definition or what you perceive to be TRP, obviously you did not believe me. So maybe you can download and read this book, ""The Rational Male; Positive Masculinity" by Rollo Tomassi

https://www.pirate-bay.net/search?q=the+rational+male+by+Rollo+Tomassi?q=the+rational+male+by+Rollo+Tomassi

Also, i like the way you tried to differentiate between modern feminism and the 'so called first wave feminism', those women that fought for equal opportunities.
I have stated before, not to you though, that those women never called themselves feminists(i stand to be corrected) they were never known as feminists, rather they were known as suffragettes, there were also others that fought for 'equal pay for equal'.

it is these modern feminists that co-opted their fight and triumphs, in order to gain recognition or whatever and called them the first feminists.
If you go back to the past to any of the suffragettes and told them they were feminists, they would not know what you are talking about.

I believe you should have just focused on the true evil, which if feminism, it never was and it never will be a good thing.

BLOODYSPERM:
What barriers are you breaking, that individually , you can't achieve on your own,you need a political movement and ideology to give you voice and representation , they even rigged the legal system to favor you in Progressivive societies yet women have not reached any significant heights in mordern civilization

STEM fields you are not dominating, even in scandanavian countries with Egalitarianistic-Equalism policies women are not even active in STEM fields

Kamala Harris was chosen as VP of USA because of the color of her skin not because she was competent

RedpillAnalyst:
Thanks @Bloodysperm.
You fired many solid shots


To bukatyne

Red pill is not about the hate for women. If you understand the core concepts of red pill, it is not to be emotional. That is to say use your head first. Logic and reasoning above everything.

Brothers who hate women are having a red pill rage and can't process their emotions knowing they have been taught the wrong things their whole life. If you are still very emotional like a little girl you have not digested the red pill especially those brothers who say Nigerian girls are useless.

Old Christianity was red pill, new Christianity is feminism and you and I know church is money generating outfit not about salvation anymore.

The Feminism beyond 1960 is full luciferianism under the guise of empowerment and it will definitely crash the society as we know it. Family, marriage and morality will be dead in about 15years if the status quo plays on everywhere in the world.

If you are truly a woman I commend you for understanding a bit about the red pill, but you can never ever understand the red pill philosophy if you have never gone through what average men go through on daily basis in the hand of modern women because they want to do the right thing.

bukatyne:
I don't understand what you mean by old Christianity and new Christianity:

Jesus Christ is the same Yesterday, Today and Forever.

There is no change or update or revised edition of Christianity. You either align with the Bible or.....

You don't.

Christianity is anti red-pill; you cannot be a Christian (I did not say church member/pastor/evangelist; I mean genuinely born again) and be a red-piller.

Not to be emotional? Even Jesus Christ was emotional when he needed to be! The godly men in the Bible displayed emotions.

Your last paragraph even speaks for me; to counter the effects (real & perceived) of modern-feminism, red pill came to be.

The very foundation is anti-Christ.

P.S.: I don't need to be a man 'going' through stuff in the hands of a modern woman before understanding red pill.

I think the word you are looking for is 'agree'.

I understand polygamy, can tell you how it benefits the man, few benefits for the wives however, I do not agree with it.

RedpillAnalyst:
1. I am sure you know the church has changed if you know how the churches were run in the past 2 decades. In the 80s and 90s, you never see women dressing scantily and unclad in churches like whores. Homosexuality was chastised now they are accepted with open arms and allowed to run affairs of churches and even be singers, women were not allowed to teach men in the church because they will usher in chaos and I see that today.

2. Red pill is not Anti-christ. It is pro christ. Feminism is a branch down the line of Marxism and it is a close ally to homosexuality, trans-movement and these have ushered in the most chaos in recent time.

3. Mind you, there are 2 kinds of red pills. The offensive and the defensive. Every man at least needs to know how to defend himself from manipulation that and most red pill teachings are biblical one just has to use discretion. A man can have more than one woman if he has the means, but it does not necessarily mean every man should do it.

4. A lot of women will gladly share a high-value man than managing an average man to herself. Case in point celebrities like Tuface, Burnaboy, Davido, Ned Nwoke e.t.c these women know they are sharing these high-value men and they do not give a damn as long as they are in the queue.
Polygamy is okay and it is not for the average man and women know this.

bukatyne:
1. There is NO update to Christianity. NONE! What was wrong in Jesus' time is wrong today & would be wrong forever.

2 & 3. Redpill and all its versions are anti-Christ. The Bible can be twisted to suit anything. Even some feminists claim the Bible backs up their thought process.

4. I don't understand your point, I want to assume it is a redpill something. However,
a. Biblically, it is one faithful man to one faithful woman. A high value man is one who is godly and leads his family right. I am sure it is different from your definition of a high value man.
b. A Christian woman would not share.

bukatyne:
Good day Peeps

Disclaimer: THIS IS BUKATYNE's THREAD

Intro: It is a long read

It recently dropped in my heart/mind that the two reigning philosophies (feminism/women) and (red pill/men) are anti-Christianity i.e. you cannot be a Christian and be a modern-feminist or a red piller. In addition to the points below, modern-feminism and red pill fan the ambers of distrust between both sexes. And if both sexes distrust themselves, how can they fulfill God’s mandate on earth which includes dominion and multiplication? How can they live in harmony?

The Bible gives us ample guidelines on human relations in all spheres of life; marriage (most affected by the gender war), society, workplace, parent-children, domestic staff/workers etc.

MODERN FEMINISM: Why modern? The first wave seeking equal opportunities for men and women aligns with the tenets of Christianity. Modern/mainstream feminism here refers to (although not limited to) seeking equal outcomes, rejection of godly patriarchy, anti-marriage, anti-men/malehood, acceptance/support of homosexuality/transgender/intersex/abortion, systemic destruction of men, refusal to acknowledge differences in gender, rejection of a woman’s role in marriage (housekeeping/nurturing of children), support of immorality under the guise of ‘it is my body’, wanting to ‘copy men to do wrong’ instead of insisting on the right thing, rejection of God etc. etc. We get the idea.

RED PILL: In summary, this is a philosophy for men that ‘highlights who women are’ and how to ‘game’ them especially sexually.
> First off, red pill never ’highlights the fault of men’ and one wonders if they are perfect. The Bible tells us to remove the log in our eyes before removing the speck in our neighbor’s eyes. It is also a sign of pride and thinking highly of yourself to list only the ‘fault’ of another party and how you want to deal with them without taking stock of yourself and how you can be a better person. Psalm 36: 2 In their own eyes they flatter themselves too much to detect or hate their sin.
> Secondly, the focus on sex (sadly outside marriage which is fornication {another sin} especially on Nairaland is ridiculous. A man who has arrived is one spinning plates aka joggling women without the intent to commit (marry) to anyone of them. Proverbs 31:3: Give not thy strength unto women, nor thy ways to that which destroyeth kings.
> Thirdly, the subtle/explicit hatred for women is anti-love your neighbor as yourself or do unto others what you want others to do unto you. Ephesians 4:31 Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice. 1 John 3:15: 15 Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him. 1 John 4:20 Whoever claims to love God yet hates a brother or sister is a liar. For whoever does not love their brother and sister, whom they have seen, cannot love God, whom they have not seen. Compare the positive attitudes of men/fathers/husbands in the Bible viz a viz the red pill.

As Christians, we know that everyone has their role which does not make them inferior to others with ‘seemingly more important roles.’ As succinctly said by Dr. Myles Monroe, ‘there is nothing as tragic as excelling in a wrong role.’ I remember a story ‘attributed’ to Pastor Kumuyi: God showed him his mansion in Heaven and he saw a gigantic one beside it. Out of curiosity, he inquired and God told him it belonged to a lady sweeping/interceding in his Church. To people of the world, the girl is a nonentity doing something ‘irrelevant.’ To God, she was playing her role in Kumuyi’s mission and doing it well. For instance, Samuel served God by serving Eli (1 Sam 3:1); the first Deacons in the Bible (described as Spirit filled) were chosen to serve food to widows. The Deacons were appointed because the Apostles were distracted from teaching the gospel by serving. They did not think it was beneath them to serve. Peter was sent as an Apostle to the Jews while Paul was sent as an Apostle to the Gentiles. Some of the Apostles with Jesus did not write a page of the Bible while Apostle Paul wrote thirteen books etc. It neither diminished their importance nor denied them assess to heaven. Read Luke 22:24-27 for an idea of 'positions'

Christianity teaches the following amongst others:
Servant-leadership and upliftment: Jesus Christ washed the feet of His disciples, cooked for them etc. Jesus the Creator left His glory and became flesh like us. Imagine a King leaving his kingdom to resettle in another town where nobody knows him. Jesus prayed that we would do greater works than He did and empowered us for it.

Responsibility even when not convenient: Paul was shipwrecked and arrested yet he still took his assignment to preach the gospel around seriously. Going to the Cross was not easy for Jesus either. He wept at a point when His assignment overwhelmed Him yet He did not give up or think of Himself. Luke 22:44: He prayed more fervently, and he was in such agony of spirit that his sweat fell to the ground like great drops of blood.

Leaving vengeance for God/Forgiveness: At the Cross, Jesus still prayed for his enemies; Joseph son of Jacob forgave his brothers; we are enjoined to forgive 70 * 7 times daily etc.

Willingness to forgo your ‘rights’ for peace/greater good and humility: Jesus taught ‘if they slap your left cheek, turn the right one’, if someone offends you, forgive 70 * 7, endurance, patience etc. etc. Philippians 2: 1 – 11 is a fantastic read.

Mercy: Joseph the husband of Mary and Joseph (is it the name?) the son of Jacob win this award. Joseph (Mary’s husband) found out she was pregnant while engaged to him and supposedly a virgin. In the state of hurt and disappointment, he was still contemplating how to break the engagement without ‘disgracing’ Mary. We also know Joseph the son of Jacob who forgave his half brothers who sold him into slavery and Potiphar’s wife who set him up.

Love and Compassion: the Bible is a story of love. All the law and prophets has been compressed into two: 1. Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul and with all your mind. 2. Love your neighbor as yourself. Again, the Bible is filled with stories of Jesus’ compassion; to his disciples, to his opponents, to sick people around, to those who rejected Him etc.

Putting others before yourself: Ephesians 5:21 tells us to submit one to another. Same with other verses in Paul’s epistles which teaches us to treat one another with humility and mercy.

Harmony: Hebrews 14:12 Follow peace with all men and holiness without which no man shall see the Lord. Colossians 3:12-13: Put on then, as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience, bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive.

Contentment: Godliness with contentment is great gain. Just how we are different parts of the body of Christ hence different functions/gifts/roles, we have different roles in the church, families, workplace, society etc. We should embrace those roles and ask for the grace to do them well.

So my dears, you cannot be a modern feminist/red piller and be a Christian. You cannot serve two masters; you need to choose your master.

I leave us with this Bible passage:
Colossians 2:8, KJV: "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."

Colossians 2:8, NLT: "Don't let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ."

Regards,
Bukatyne




I think the red pill was hijacked. I don't see red pill as an excuse to hate women or change them like clothes. I can never do that. I see a feminine, respectful woman and I will cherish and love her for life.
Red pill is a slogan that brings men to their senses and reawakens them to their Godordained responsibility and place as trailblazers and rulers of the home. Genesis 3.16 says 'and the man shall rule over her.' it is as non-negotiable as menstruation.
Original redpill makes a man wise but considerate. Removes the wool of naivety and the scarcity mentality that has made many men pawns in the hands of ungodly women.
The reference you made to Joseph, remember that an angel came to warn him specifically not to put his wife away. Else, it's impracticable for any man to believe that story Mary told. That shows it is an exclusive case and not one for precedence.
Applied rightly, the redpill theory puts a man in his rightful, God-ordained place.

LilMissFavvy:
Yes, the kinds that maltreat their wives are the horseband, I call it whatever I like, it's none of your business.

Go back and understand everything about what patriarchy is before you quote me.

Also go back and read your Bible, you don't have any understanding, yet you quote me. The discrimination was caused by patriarchy, laws, traditions, Moses did not give his consent to allow the girls inherit, he knew such was not allowed. He inquired from God, and it was God who gave him the ''go ahead''. You want patriarchy, yet I'm not sure you would gladly cater for a woman, without robbing it on her face.

Priestley91:
Truth is so obscure in these times, and falshood so established, that unless we love the truth we cannot know it. -Blaise Pascal.

A certain spokesman in the former Administration, once stated something quite relating, the comments there and the comments here seems to be moving in a tangent, and a quite predictable direction.

it's quite amusing watching the "Yay" & the "Nay" party trying to so much sell a narrative, sell an agenda, sell a philosophy; with intruments like subjectivism ,half-truths , and outright falsehood.

"The truth" is so scarce and the lines has been so blurred,as such; opinions, narratives,bias, prejudices, predispositions etcetera are passed for 'truth'.

For the 'Christian' (not the atheist,not the agnostic,not the skeptic,not the church-go'er',not the Muslim,not the buddhist & certainly not to the Satanist) ; the question is a question of allegiance, is it to 'christ' or a philosophy,a principle,an idea or a social movement.

RedpillAnalyst:
1) Like I said, Christianity has changed to suit feelings and emotions. Christianity of the 1950s is different from what it is today and it has been to usher in feminism and some unmerited divine blessings.
e.g.
Men were prescribed to be the leader of the house, modern churches talk about equality to women from being responsible for things there were supposed to be responsible for.

Women were told to "Love, honor and obey", but obey somehow got removed, and it is now "love, honor and cherish" a multidimensional thinker knows some sort of social engineering is happening.

A woman preacher (RCCG Parish outside Nigeria) was preaching to women that there is room for divorce in a relationship and women should feel comfortable to take the step. Months after women started calling the police on their husbands leading to divorce.

Churches, especially the modern ones have been heavily feminized.

2/3) Loosely, the opposite of feminism is the red pill and both can be radicalized from normalcy. However, red pill/patriarchy has always been about logic, balance and construction. Feminism on the other hand is about emotions, chaos, and destruction. and why is that?

i) Feminism oversexualized women to the point that men subconsciously think all women are nothing other than mere semen receptacles.

ii) Feminism told women it is okay to be sluts, dress it and act it and if they have "chemistry" with a man/woman they should follow their impulse.

iii) Abortion rate of the roof even with contraceptives after the birth of third-wave feminism.

iv) STI off the roof, close to 30% of people who are sexually active have some form of "microbial gift to give" and women are the major carrier of these gifts, prostinol 2, Plan B., etc. can't protect yeast, viruses and bacteria vaginosis. Women bust it open as long as they think a guy looks cool and fresh.

v) Destruction of family values - Single mum on the rise and they raise delinquent kids the most. Teen pregnancy, mass shooters, school dropouts, Inmates, overly neurotic kids are and victims of gun violence are mostly products of single moms who bought and swallowed the idea of feminism.

vi) Excessive use of drugs, depression, adrenal burnout, and even suicide ideation are very common in people who bought into the idea of feminism.

Red pill is often believed to be about sleeping with multiple women but it chiefly aims to counter female/feminist chaotic nature, because women are destroyers and builders.

4) Solomon, Jacob, Pharoah, David, Mohammed, Esau, Abraham e.t.c. Had something in common. A man can have more than one partner either as wives or concubines as he pleases. There is a verse in the Quran that goes "Your wives are as A TILTH unto you." and many equivalents of that in the bible, but it is not a must that men should have more than one wives. Moreso, men of today are weak physically and mentally and can't even successfully handle one woman.

bukatyne:
■ MODERN FEMINISM: Why modern? The first wave seeking equal opportunities for men and women aligns with the tenets of Christianity.
■ Modern/mainstream feminism here refers to (although not limited to) seeking equal outcomes, rejection of godly patriarchy,
■ anti-marriage, anti-men/malehood, acceptance/support of homosexuality/transgender/intersex/abortion, systemic destruction of men, refusal to acknowledge differences in gender, rejection of a woman’s role in marriage (housekeeping/nurturing of children), support of immorality under the guise of ‘it is my body’, wanting to ‘copy men to do wrong’ instead of insisting on the right thing, rejection of God etc. etc. We get the idea.

8 “But you must not be called ‘Teacher.’ You are all equal as brothers and sisters. You have only one Teacher.
9 And don’t call anyone on earth ‘Father.’ You have one Father. He is in heaven.
10 And you should not be called ‘Master.’ You have only one Master, the Messiah.
11 Whoever serves you like a servant is the greatest among you. - Matthew 23 vs 8 - 11

24 “You cannot serve two masters at the same time. You will hate one and love the other, or you will be loyal to one and not care about the other. You cannot serve God and Money at the same time. - Matthew 6 vs 24

DontBullshitMe:
■ Depends on which type of Christianity you practice.
■ Some Bible verses strongly endorse a few redpill teachings.