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So Jehovah is not Lord?

Ephesians 1:3 and Matthew 11:25, 27:46 can you spot the difference?

Janosky:


Please tell this forum who made Jesus Lord?

If i explained this, you would not appreciate it. Thought you said there's only one Lord? Is Jesus Lord?

Janosky:

Ephesians 1:3 and Matthew 11:25, 27:46 can you spot the difference?

No i can't. Is Jehovah Lord? You just said something about the Bible not saying He is Lord.

Janosky:

Matthew 27:46 your Almighty crying & begging who ?

God praying to God. Is there a law against that in the sad hall?

There you go again!

Thousands of years before Jesus' birth it has been taught that a Messiah will be born amongst the Jews, just before his birth angels announced to his Aunt (Elizabeth) mother (Mary) foster father (Joseph) and at his birth angels still announced to Jewish shepherds that the Messiah has been born in David's City (Bethlehem).
Well his parents knew him and he also knew who he is but what happens when he wanted to start God's work? Jesus went to meet John the baptist (the founder of an organized group) to be baptized!
Even though John could sense that he's not worthy of such privilege Jesus insisted that everything must follow normal protocol! Matthew 3:13-15
So if Jesus God's only begotten SON, the most respected servant of God bow to the protocol who the hell are you to say you must not belong to any organized setting?

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No i don't get the gibberish. i don't see Jesus or Peter or any child of God asking for denomination to know what to do next.

MaxInDHouse:
There you go again!

Thousands of years before Jesus' birth it has been taught that a Messiah will be born amongst the Jews, just before his birth angels announced to his Aunt (Elizabeth) mother (Mary) foster father (Joseph) and at his birth angels still announced to Jewish shepherds that the Messiah has been born in David's City (Bethlehem).
Well his parents knew him and he also knew who he is but what happens when he wanted to start God's work? Jesus went to meet John the baptist (the founder of an organized group) to be baptized!
Even though John could sense that he's not worthy of such privilege Jesus insisted that everything must follow normal protocol! Matthew 3:13-15
So if Jesus God's only begotten SON, the most respected servant of God bow to the protocol who the hell are you to say you must not belong to any organized setting?

So Jesus is in John Baptist denomination? Mention three that are okay maybe i can observe protocol.

shadeyinka:

And the Ethiopian Eunuch will loose has salvation as he is going to a "churchless" environment!?

For certainly, there was no organised church in Ethiopia till about (earliest) 3rd century after Christ (oral traditions put it about 4th century)

“According to Ethiopian tradition, Christianity first came to the Aksum Empire in the fourth century A.D. when a Greek-speaking missionary named Frumentius converted King Ezana.

https://www.ias.edu/news/in-the-media/butts-ethiopia-basilica

In other words, according to your position the Ethiopian Eunuch ended up loosing his salvation because no church existed throughout his lifetime in Ethiopia.

Can you see how warped your doctrine is. First you have some self appointed apostles who cannot say how Christ appointed them. Second, Jesus Christ came to your church in secret for 5 years contrary to the scriptures. No wonder your prophecies fell flat after 5 years of staying with Jesus.

Does this make any sense to you!?

Ethiopian tradition told you about missionary of your 3 dogheads, did Ethiopian Tradition prove that Ethiopian Eunuch didn't exist or preach the good news in his homeland ?



Was everything Jesus Christ did penned down in the scriptures?
Bros , but you want the scriptures to name the individuals that Eunuch preached to & converted.
Acts 1:8, Matthew 24:14 Jesus Christ is sinless and NEVER lied "the good news"reached Ethiopia before Frumentius.
Can Ethiopian Tradition displace the holy scriptures?


Bros, you want to claim what you can't provide proof

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So Jesus is in John Baptist denomination? Mention three that are okay maybe i can observe protocol.

The right question is;
Is John a servant of Jehovah God?

Isaiah 43:10-12 , 2 Chro7:14, Acts 3:13. 15:14, Bros, can you see the connection?

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So Jesus is in John Baptist denomination?

That's why John objected because all those coming for baptism by John becomes John's disciples {Act 18:25} when John's disciples saw Jesus' disciples baptizing people they felt Jesus is no more following the organized setting {John 3:25-30} but John made them realize that Jesus' group is the main plan not his own {John 1:29} John continue repeating it for his disciples to know that they need to go and join Jesus' group! John 1:36-39

So everything was organized Sir, it's not just anywhere belle face!

Mention three that are okay maybe i can observe protocol.

You need to study with JWs before you can know all these otherwise you will just continue moving from one sect to another claiming denomination!

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God praying to God. Is there a law against that in the sad hall?

Matthew 6:9. "You MUST PRAY this way.."
Matthew 27:46, Jesus practice what he preach..
Bros, RECEIVE SENSE


From the horses mouth, Revelation 3:5,12 & John 20:17 in heaven and earth.

Your unbelief can't alter nothing in the holy scriptures.

He doesn't know what Jesus meant when he said "God's Holy Spirit will teach you what to say the very hour they come to question your faith" Luke 12:11-12

Church he no fit mention so that nobody will question his Faith, but i just enjoy it walahi talahi proving Jesus' promise for JWs true.
Shadeyinka quickly dismissed ECWA Church so that his Faith will not be scrutinized after all ECWA doesn't define his faith but he wants to scrutinize JWs FAITH.

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, may God bless you guys for locating me!

Janosky:

The right question is;
Is John a servant of Jehovah God?
Isaiah 43:10-12 , 2 Chro7:14, Acts 3:13. 15:14, Bros, can you see the connection?

Janosky:


The right question is;
Is John a servant of Jehovah God?

Isaiah 43:10-12 , 2 Chro7:14, Acts 3:13. 15:14, Bros, can you see the connection?

i need to see answers to the questions, not unwarranted connections. Mention three denominations that are okay or keep quiet.

Janosky:


The Bros Shade and him 3 dogheads brethren do not agree about their deity, ublight say their dogheads deity is a sinner
Just see the attached screenshot

i see a fellow who is eager to prove his folly in public.

MaxInDHouse:

That's why John objected because all those coming for baptism by John becomes John's disciples {Act 18:25} when John's disciples saw Jesus' disciples baptizing people they felt Jesus is no more following the organized setting {John 3:25-30} but John made them realize that Jesus' group is the main plan not his own {John 1:29} John continue repeating it for his disciples to know that they need to go and join Jesus' group! John 1:36-39

So everything was organized Sir, it's not just anywhere belle face!


You need to study with JWs before you can know all these otherwise you will just continue moving from one sect to another claiming denomination!

Jwickedness seems to be anywhere belle face. They never go straight. Ask A, they'll start behaving like robots typing J T N O Q. Mention three denominations that are okay. No story.

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i need to see answers to the questions, not unwarranted connections. Mention three denominations that are okay or keep quiet.

The one in 2 Chronicle 7:14 , Isaiah 43:10-12 and Acts 15:14, these individuals in Acts 3:13 worship Him.
That's the Organized servants of Jehovah God.

Janosky:


Matthew 6:9. "You MUST PRAY this way.."
Matthew 27:46, Jesus practice what he preach..
Bros, RECEIVE SENSE


From the horses mouth, Revelation 3:5,12 & John 20:17 in heaven and earth.

Your unbelief can't alter nothing in the holy scriptures.

So there's no law against God praying to God. Good. No need bringing up irrelevant data again. Stick to discussion.

Janosky:

The one in 2 Chronicle 7:14 , Isaiah 43:10-12 and Acts 15:14, these individuals in Acts 3:13 worship Him.
That's the Organized servants of Jehovah God.

No three denominations names here.

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So there's no law against God praying to God.


Good. No need bringing up irrelevant data again. Stick to discussion.

Why won’t kingxsamz[atheist] always be laughing at you with this your absurd logic? God was praying and yelling to himself on the stake? Matthew 27:46
God was favourably heard by himself and learnt obedience to himself? Hebrews 5:7-8
God commanded himself to sit at his own right hand? Psalm 110:1, Acts 2:34-35
God will return his Kingdom back to himself and subject himself to himself? 1Corinthians 15:24-28

You are even more ignorant than shadeyinka that’s why I don’t even engage you in discussions. At least he knows that he’s chatting with JW’s so he filters his words carefully but you go all the way out. Pause and listen to yourself! Please!

shadeyinka:

Can you please address this question before I speak to the points you have raised in your quote above?

Does the Holy Spirit still speak to believers today?


Make it short please.

God’s holy spirit is not a person rather it’s God’s active force that he uses to execute his will and purpose. Genesis 1:2, Micah 3:8, Luke 11:20
So it’s not a person that speaks to people, God only communicated his ideas/messages/prophecies to his faithful servants in the distant past using his holy spirit as a tool for doing so. 2Peter 1:20-21

As has been said, the miraculous gifts of prophecy is no more in use today[1Corinthians 13:8] but God’s holy spirit is still functioning today[Luke 11:13] and it helps to enlighten Jehovah’s Witnesses about the TRUTHS AND PROPHECIES THAT ARE ALREADY RECORDED IN GOD’S WORD THE BIBLE and not something new that’s out of the realm of the Scriptures.
1Corinthians 2:10

DappaD:


God’s holy spirit is not a person rather it’s God’s active force that he uses to execute his will and purpose. Genesis 1:2, Micah 3:8, Luke 11:20
So it’s not a person that speaks to people, God only communicated his ideas/messages/prophecies to his faithful servants in the distant past using his holy spirit as a tool for doing so. 2Peter 1:20-21

As has been said, the miraculous gifts of prophecy is no more in use today[1Corinthians 13:8] but God’s holy spirit is still functioning today[Luke 11:13] and it helps to enlighten Jehovah’s Witnesses about the TRUTHS AND PROPHECIES THAT ARE ALREADY RECORDED IN GOD’S WORD THE BIBLE and not something new that’s out of the realm of the Scriptures.
1Corinthians 2:10

In other words replacement of a dead member of the governing body of the Jehovah's witness organisation is done by men.
How then could you call them apostles?

Only JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES Organization is the true Christian group globally, go and commit suicide if it's turning your stomach!

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Jwickedness seems to be anywhere belle face. They never go straight. Ask A, they'll start behaving like robots typing J T N O Q. Mention three denominations that are okay. No story.

How was Matthias chosen? Act 1:23-26

Did Jesus appeared to choose Matthias personally as you've been saying?

shadeyinka:

In other words replacement of a dead member of the governing body of the Jehovah's witness organisation is done by men.
How then could you call them apostles?

How i wish everyone leave me and Shadeyinka alone to discuss one on one as the topic says.

MaxInDHouse:
How was Matthias chosen? Act 1:23-26

Did Jesus appeared to choose Matthias personally as you've been saying?

Acts 1:21-23:
"Why of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us,
Beginning from the baptism of John, to that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.
And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias."

The person must have Physically SEEN/WITNESSED Christ and His ministry from the beginning of His ministry to the end or called by Christ Himself to be His Apostle

None of your old white men qualify even by this standard!

shadeyinka:

I do not promote nor teach ECWA or any denomination. I preach Christ and His Gospel of Salvation.

Are you saying you don't agree with the teachings of the church you attend and it's useless to you?

shadeyinka:

The questions are so elementary and doesn't require some long epistles.

The answer is either YES or NO!
If you like support the YES or NO with scriptures!

You've checked the thread and agreed with the OP?

The CV you're fabricating for Matthias was by the DISCERNMENT of the Apostles (by men) if Jesus did not singlehandedly chose Matthias as one of his Apostles {Luke 6:13-16} and it wasn't a GIFT as written at Ephesians 4:11 then it simply means the group decided who replaces the dead among those who have been with them all through. That's exactly how a member of the Governing Body is chosen today!

shadeyinka:

Acts 1:21-23:
"Why of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us,
Beginning from the baptism of John, to that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.
And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias."

The person must have Physically SEEN/WITNESSED Christ and His ministry from the beginning of His ministry to the end or called by Christ Himself to be His Apostle

None of your old white men qualify even by this standard!

MaxInDHouse:
The CV you're fabricating for Matthias was by the DISCERNMENT of the Apostles (by men) if Jesus did not singlehandedly chose Matthias as one of his Apostles {Luke 6:13-16} and it wasn't a GIFT as written at Ephesians 4:11 then it simply means the group decided who replaces the dead among those who have been with them all through. That's exactly how a member of the Governing Body is chosen today!

The conditions was very clear!

haddeylium:


Are you saying you don't agree with the teachings of the church you attend and it's useless to you?

I haven't said that.

ECWA nor any denomination is not the message. Christ is the message. I do not go out to win souls for my denomination but for Christ.
As long as any denomination including ECWA preach the truth according to the scriptures, we are in agreement. I cannot be in agreement with any denomination that twist the scriptures for any reason whatsoever.

Exactly! The men decided!

shadeyinka:

The conditions was very clear!

The bolded!
Jesus said the spirit of God is the same as the spirit of TRUTH! John 16:13
So the spirit guiding ECWA Church can also lie at times so that you may have to reject part of what the spirit teaches, shey? Hebrews 13:7, 17

shadeyinka:

I haven't said that.

ECWA nor any denomination is not the message. Christ is the message. I do not go out to win souls for my denomination but for Christ.
As long as any denomination including ECWA preach the truth according to the scriptures, we are in agreement. I cannot be in agreement with any denomination that twist the scriptures for any reason whatsoever.

MaxInDHouse:
The bolded!
Jesus said the spirit of God is the same as the spirit of TRUTH! John 16:13
So the spirit guiding ECWA Church can also lie at times so that you may have to reject part of what the spirit teaches, shey? Hebrews 13:7, 17

What a joke!
The Holy Spirit guide people and not non-living entities!
And I am consistent with Gal1:8-9.
Even if the leaders of ECWA or any denomination preach any other gospel other than that recorded in the scriptures let them be accursed!

Gal 1:8-9:
"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than that which we have preached to you, let him be accursed."
"As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel to you than that you have received, let him be accursed."

If the Apostles can say this, it means no man is infallible not even your eight white old men at Warwick, NY