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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Thenext: 9:28pm On Feb 16, 2021
Are you into installation of sachet water (pure water) purification set up?


rotecch77:


If your water salinity is <750 electrical conductivity test) mean it’s class 2 which is medium salinity.

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This will cost you btw 1.5- 2.5m
Full setup
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DFAMEGUY11S(m): 9:42pm On Feb 16, 2021
Greenarrow01:
Some days ago
I made a comment on here that false accusations will ruin people's reputation and business.
That time it was Nxt that was been accused, and I said something that day, if something isn't done, other contractors on here will be the next victim.
Guys
It is very hard for you to work for years without defrauding people and only one deal will just tarnish and destroy all your hard work.
Humans are indeed wicked. Nigerians especially. We are all very very wicked. Very very wicked

Was is there in a simple apology and post modification,
That fraud allegation was seen by many and most of them won't see that it was false, these people are all potential client/customers.

We all practice double standards.
Why will mountmoriah be held to standards and the client won't be asked to modify or edit a post?
Is it because it is his money ? We keep forgetting that mountmoriah also worked for his money too..
We are protecting clients without protecting the contractors. To other contractors that have kept mute, what goes around comes around.
No b curse, you can never be too careful, someone one day night bring up baseless accusations against you.

@nxt it is damn too obvious client doesn't want to give any apology.
It is very very obvious.
On the day he was accusing someone here. He was online 247 replying and quoting. Now he is no where to be found.
Man doesn't want to go back on his words
His last post even had a line that everyone over looked
That contractor had sinister motive. Even after supplying his goods. Imagine.

Just free the guy
God go judge am

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DFAMEGUY11S(m): 9:57pm On Feb 16, 2021
Greenarrow01:
Some days ago
I made a comment on here that false accusations will ruin people's reputation and business.
That time it was Nxt that was been accused, and I said something that day, if something isn't done, other contractors on here will be the next victim.
Guys
It is very hard for you to work for years without defrauding people and only one deal will just tarnish and destroy all your hard work.
Humans are indeed wicked. Nigerians especially. We are all very very wicked. Very very wicked

Was is there in a simple apology and post modification,
That fraud allegation was seen by many and most of them won't see that it was false, these people are all potential client/customers.

We all practice double standards.
Why will mountmoriah be held to standards and the client won't be asked to modify or edit a post?
Is it because it is his money ? We keep forgetting that mountmoriah also worked for his money too..
We are protecting clients without protecting the contractors. To other contractors that have kept mute, what goes around comes around.
No b curse, you can never be too careful, someone one day night bring up baseless accusations against you.

@nxt it is damn too obvious client doesn't want to give any apology.
It is very very obvious.
On the day he was accusing someone here. He was online 247 replying and quoting. Now he is no where to be found.
Man doesn't want to go back on his words
His last post even had a line that everyone over looked
That contractor had sinister motive. Even after supplying his goods. Imagine.

Just free the guy
God go judge am.

my brother don't killself for this issue what i know is that what goes around comes around
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 9:58pm On Feb 16, 2021
Thenext:
Are you into installation of sachet water (pure water) purification set up?




Yes we do
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 10:03pm On Feb 16, 2021
EgunMogaji2:


I need one or a Bedford for personal use. Prefer the 911 because I'm working towards an all Benz stable.

Good choice....very strong trucks......real work horses..

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 10:16pm On Feb 16, 2021
diordaves:


I don't think we should embark on a naming and shaming ping pong. Two wrongs don't make a right. It is now very clear what happened. There is enough information about the incident online from start to finish. So any prospective client researching both parties for patronage or otherwise would have all the information to make a constructive decision. I don't think the contractor's reputation will be tarnished in any meaningful way by this singular incident. The incident was well trashed with depth by so well-meaning forum members and a manifest judgement has been reached - No fraud was evidenced, so let's move on.


Not everyone reads an article from top to bottom. Once someone reads to the point of fraud and fraudulent...............he stops reading. He may try to find out more and if he sees another fraud statement about the person, then the prospective client finds an alternative.


The shouting client needs to edit his post.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:16pm On Feb 16, 2021
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:39pm On Feb 16, 2021
n3xt:
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 11:20pm On Feb 16, 2021
coldcandy:


Na pillars ooo. I guess na so u will build your house and put expensive roof on it.
My point is if you can afford that kind of roof, you can afford to adequately place enough pillars and beams to transfer the load.
Imagine the weight of the roofing sheets plus the weight of the wood on the walls!


Putting pillars in that build would have cost circa 200k which I'm sure he can afford.

Some house owners also get misinformed alot.

I've met people who said their "Engineer" said a "German floor" is not necessary and is a waste of money.

Picture

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 11:29pm On Feb 16, 2021
diordaves:


This is the way to go. You can't browbeat an apology from the client in these circumstances. The contractor has got enough support from contributors to counter the fraud allegation (the internet never forgets also). I'm with you on this, let both contractor and client now sort themselves out and I'm sure if they do, the client may come out here with updated information.

I have been wondering about what all the huff and puff is all about.
I dont want to "open this up again" otherwise l will say that the Client has genuine reasons to shout 'fraud', if and when the TIME-BASED contract agreement between him and the Contractor for delivery of items paid for, was breached by the Contractor going AWOL and not picking the call of the Client, while he was in constant communication with a third party, who as we know, has a Horse in this fight.
So, 'legally speaking' he is justified in thinking he has been defrauded and he so raised the alarm.

So trying to intimidate him into apologising when he obviously doesn't feel guilty (rightly or wrongly, it is his call) and acting as if anyone can throw him in jail if he does not apologise, sounds very hilarious to me but l have decided to siddon-look on the fence but this is getting too far

As have been pointed out, the Client will apologise, if he feels he needs to apologise, that should be between the Client and his Contractor.
Aside that, no one should punch above their weight on this matter otherwise we will ask them to exercise any right or power, be it legal or otherwise, that they think they have.
Respect begets Respect.

Please, l am just recovering from Covid-27, l have lost my hearing ability. grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by One4me: 11:34pm On Feb 16, 2021
EgunMogaji2:
“It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own self-interest. We address ourselves not to their humanity but to their self-love, and never talk to them of our own necessities, but of their advantages” - Adam Smith,


grin grin grin grin grin Deep and straight to the point. grin grin grin
No Favours. undecided

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Takoro13(m): 11:45pm On Feb 16, 2021
dongc:


10tonne I would guess Mercedes-Benz 911,113 ??
Let talk on phone is you have solution to this.
Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Takoro13(m): 11:48pm On Feb 16, 2021
dongc:

My oga I am not exactly sure as of today...I Sent someone to comb through lagos to find and compare the prices.....they quoted 7- 8M depending on spec/composition(axles and bucket size)without bargaining this was October 2020....I saw two in groningen which I went to see....prices with shipping and clearing would save me just under a 1m say 700k to naija prices....plan under ice at the moment.....I.will soon get it..
I will like to be updated. Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:12am On Feb 17, 2021
sinorte:
Please I need your advice on external wall screeding before painting.

I would really love to screed before painting, at least to correct some cracks (i think resulting from plastering), but was thinking painting, especially when well done, should be able to 'cover it up'. Cost is another reason why I might hold back on the screeding.

What do you think please?

Gbadexy, N3xt




I believe gbadexy has attended to this.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:13am On Feb 17, 2021
Focusmind:


What of Ajah/badore, Abraham Adesanya area?

Sorry I missed this. You should be fine with 180k
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:17am On Feb 17, 2021
PAPAFEELERS:

I appreciate sir your efforts to try as much as possible to assist with informations when called upon . you are the one people call upon most here for knowledge and we dont take this for granted sir.
many thanks

I’m not in this world for swag or it’s perks. It gave us a lot and I’m happy to give back.

Thanks for your love.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jollynificent(m): 6:00am On Feb 17, 2021
rotecch77:



Yes we do

Cost please
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Focusmind: 7:00am On Feb 17, 2021
n3xt:


Sorry I missed this. You should be fine with 180k

And the man is calling 350k for Badore for us
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 7:22am On Feb 17, 2021
Focusmind:


And the man is calling 350k for Badore for us

Depend o is better to do survey to ascertain the condition of the soil
In my area some people dig for 150 some 250 and some can’t even get water at all

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 7:29am On Feb 17, 2021
The post below is from 2016. Maybe this individual has changed, maybe he has not.
I have a lot of respect for “honest money “ i.e. people who work for their money without defrauding others. This post is for the sake of those people. Be very, very, very careful. Do your research and investigation(s) thoroughly before you give 1 naira to anyone. Shalom!


**modified**Apparently, nairaner should have been on this list, who knows how many more?


MMotimo:
Brag3
Neophytemason
Ahonahoi
Babalose
Vimo3
3strikes
Qc1
Maverick
Jaydacorsair


What do all these people have in common? The above are the known ones who have overcome their embarrassment at being duped and have taken the bold step to come out despite being ridiculed by others. I am certain there are a lot more on and off Nland. The ones up there are the tales we have heard, clients of n3xt / brabus.

It is easy to say "let's move on" afterall you and I have not lost money to him. Let's move on but leave him to post here so that we can benefit from his internet searches and photos from other Builders' sites. For those in the diaspora who may not know, getting photos from a site in Naija is really as simple as walking on there to take photos with or without greasing palms. As long as the real builder is not on Nland to raise dust, the audience still believes they are looking at photos from the fraudster's projects.

I am embarrassed for the many gentlemen on this site who are professionals in their fields and maintain a gentleman mien in their different locations abroad but are very comfortable fraternizing with a confirmed criminal element. So, a group of men hang out together in a beer parlour (this thread) and award building contracts to someone in their midst who presents himself as a Builder (n3xt / brabus ). He goes and robs their homes but still comes back to hang out at the beer parlour with victims and non victims alike. The victims keep making noise but the non victims tell them to keep quiet and let the faaji continue, afterall the beer parlor is not a police station. Decent men would tell the fraudster in their midst that he is no longer welcome until he at least apologizes to all victims and refund all monies but you see the very typical selfish behavior exhibited here over and over again.

This beer parlor is where he lays his traps and lies in wait, exactly as someone said up there. But it makes more sense to the selfish brethren to ban victims from here to another thread far from this one, another thread with less than 30 posts in 2 months and leave brabus to continue with his trade here. Let's just pretend victims have no right to be hurting even though none of us would willingly gift millions of naira to a criminal.

Alhaji S. I noticed everyone is unwilling to call you out on this issue so I will. Why? Because I am Yoruba like you and I have no alliances nor have I obtained any favors from Builders or clients. My conscience is clear. No offence to any other tribes but I speak of what I know. To whom much is given (respect in this section), much is expected. Maybe I simply missed where you have asked Brabus to stop posting on your thread until he does the right thing but I don't think so. I have noticed your requests though that the victims go to other threads created by yourself and n3xt to air their complaints. Very interesting! The fraudster is free to post here and ignore victims but not victims? S-e-r-i-o-u-s-l-y? ? ? You have been named an elder here and would appear to be the most elderly on this thread but what kind of elder refuses to voice out against repeated injustices? Because the victims have not obtained court judgements against him? Because their allegations have "not been proven in court?" Unlike folks like eghosajohnny who can be summarily condemned? Alhaji S, what would the Naija community in NY think of your silence and deflection in the face of what is going on here? Rhetorical question only, no response needed.

Here is where I remind all those who are members of professional bodies of ethical obligations when posting here. Nland is not out of the reach of ethical standards you have sworn to uphold. If you work for a large organization, this is also the time to go check your employer's social media policy so that you will be guided when you post. Even with using non work devices to post on Nland, you can be fired for behavior and utterances that are untoward and which your employer considers indicting.

The bible says "be ye not partakers of other men's evil." A man reaps what he sows. For actively encouraging a fraudster and shouting to quiet his victims so that you can receive advice for your builds, do you not know you will reap what you have sown? Same people are surprised when others not named brabus rip them off. There are many n3xts in the building industry and each enabler of fraud will find his own tormentor. It's really as simple as that, just stating a fact of life. The only difference is that the fraudster that cleans you out may not even have presentation skills anywhere as good as n3xt. Some of the people building homes in Naija are only one brabus /n3xt builder/supplier away from bankruptcy. How many of you can afford to lose colossal amounts of money to n3xt without declaring bankruptcy? ?

N1.7 million missing on neophyte's Ile Oluji thread, N1.5 million on vimo3's site, major rework done on their builds by other victims, running into millions of naira. Everybody facing cost overruns because of one man's greed. Truth is wherever there is money, thieves abound. It's like bees and honey. Potential loot is a couple of millions on an average one storey building so the stakes are high. Why do you think n3xt is always here pushing plagiarized innovations and answering questions before the next victim or n3xt establishes email/phone/text contact? If he was able to recruit new clients on his threads, do you think he would be posting here?

From what I have seen, N3xt has an established pattern of premeditated large scale fraud. In saner climes, he should have had court judgements ruin him into bankruptcy by now because there is ample evidence to back litigation. In Nigeria, it is easy to tell victims to go to court aka waste some more money on a nefarious character but we all know how the system works. I'm yet to hear n3xt refunded anyone's money in full so I am not expecting to hear of any refunds. Career criminals never make any headway because they will never enjoy contentment or peace of mind. Building a house in the village cannot buy that, stealing millions cannot buy it, all the money in the world cannot buy it either. Look inwards, look around you and ask yourself if you are truly happy. You cannot be because awon apanilekunjaiye do not experience peace of mind nor happiness. The self destructive behavioor keeps pushing for more and more and it is never enough

From what I have seen here, N3xt is a sociopath, unfeeling, lacking a conscience, and totally unrepentant. What will be his end? Your guess is as good as mine.

For anyone still considering giving him a chance knowing all that he has done, you are free to but do not expect an about turn. A decent man would consider the disgrace he has suffered and seek to redeem himself when given another opportunity and prove his "haters" wrong. The forces driving n3xt do not push him into that line of thinking.






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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:38am On Feb 17, 2021
Focusmind:


And the man is calling 350k for Badore for us

Getting good water is not easy in that areas though but even at that 350k is too much.

I lived and did a lot of projects in that area for years.

+/- 200k or max 250k should give you something good depending on the terrain. The land is marshy swampy land and it requires depth in some areas.

I’ll get a more realistic figure from my contact in Cooperative Villas


_______
This is coming from a long term resident of Cooperative Villas Badore and a landlord at Unity Estate Badore. grin grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adesegun121(m): 7:50am On Feb 17, 2021
Ekaroo oni Roofing yi de oo
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 7:59am On Feb 17, 2021

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 8:39am On Feb 17, 2021
Brag3 recounted part of his experience with a developer in 2016 . . . . . #7million with that developer


First of all thank you for your detailed write-up. You definitely took the time to analyse the issues here (and in our country as a whole) and got it spot on.

As a victim of Brabus I have been silent on the subject for some time, not because I don’t have anything to say but because I need to channel a lot of my energy to completing the final phase of our project and get it over and done with it. For this I had to take sometime away from NL only to come back and see nothing has really changed.

It’s so funny when people decide to direct victims to our various law enforcement bodies knowing fully well what the outcome will be.
Everybody knows our story with Brabus so not going to dig that up. It’s all there for the world to see and unfortunately or fortunately will be there forever.

Some have even mentioned that some of the victims are fools because they gave Brabus their money and went on holiday while he committed his atrocities. Some will even go further and say that we wanted something cheap so we all deserve what we got. To those saying all this all I can say is that I won’t wish what has happened to us to happen to you but when you enter such shoes I hope you find someone to share your pain with.

Lets take a look at our law enforcement bodies and give a good example of personal experience. I have reported a developer to the police for refund of payment of land that has been purchased since over 6 years ago yet no land has been given to us. The matter was reported to the Ilupeju police station and the developer was arrested and locked up for some days. To even get this done we had to cough up 30,000 naira.

That’s further expenses incurred to start getting something back.

Now after this same developer signed affidavit with his lawyer to start paying back the money, the day first payment was going to start he (yes the same developer) took our matter to Alagbon to go and report us that we have been harassing him and that we have gone against his human rights and that he wants to bring a case against.

Lucky for us Alagbon saw through him and arrested him again and what do you know (yes he signed another affidavit) to start paying the money again commencing December last year. The total amount due was 7 million naira which has been paid over 6 years ago so we all know what 7 million naira is worth now. He started paying the money back only for him to pay 3.5M and now said he is taking us to court for defamation of character. He said we have been advising people not to buy land from him and telling them all sorts so he is now suing us for 10 million naira. Can you imagine this? What some people will try with you in this Nigeria.


Alagbon are now telling us to try and see some reason with him and settle this matter because if the case goes to court and we win they can tell the man to be paying back 50K a month. How long will that take for us to recoup 3.5M? To compound the matter The police always take 5% of whatever the man pays us so the 3.5M already got has been less 5%. So if at all we get our money back it will be 7M less 700k after 6/7/8 or even 9 years.

What a joke. Now you all shout from behind your fancy keyboards and tell the victims to take their case to EFFC and get justice. In this same Nigeria? OK o, lets carry on.

Brabus, Brabus, I will tell you this. The people advising you not to do the right thing don’t really have your interest at hand and I will you why. You see you are doing these things with some people in diaspora who for one reason or the other may not decide to go down the route of jungle justice. This in my opinion is why you have been escaping but it’s only a matter of time before you do it to the wrong person who has nothing to lose.
It won’t even be up to 50K. it will be something very small and you will follow the same route and try and form “I know pass you” and that will be your big downfall.

Only you and you alone know what wrongs you have done and only you and you alone know what you have to do to make things right but please don’t let people fool you into making you feel invincible. You are extremely far from that.

The hands of justice are closing in on you and like a number of people have said here, You won’t even see it coming. I can only hope and pray it does not result in the loss of lives but I won’t be surprised if it comes to that.

A word (or in your case a lot of words) is enough for the wise.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gabbytabby: 8:50am On Feb 17, 2021
Good morning. I need a contact of persons selling sand to surulere ojuelegba area. I am told it might be from oworonshoki so if you know any in that area I will appreciate a contact no.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dijita: 8:58am On Feb 17, 2021
MMotimo:
Thread from 2016 below.


https://www.nairaland.com/3496421/estate-agent-docked-over-n5m#51546974


@lawyer
do you still stand by this comment from 2016?

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 8:59am On Feb 17, 2021
MMotimo:
The post below is from 2016. Maybe this individual has changed, maybe he has not.
I have a lot of respect for “honest money “ i.e. people who work for their money without defrauding others. This post is for the sake of those people. Be very, very, very careful. Do your research and investigation(s) thoroughly before you give 1 naira to anyone. Shalom!


**modified**Apparently, nairaner should have been on this list, who knows how many more?



What do you plan to achieve with this right now?? This early morning?? I am just curious sir

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sgtponzihater1(m): 9:02am On Feb 17, 2021
I need a contractor to re-roof my house on a budget, as old roofing has gone off. Any recommendations?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:06am On Feb 17, 2021
Sand Mining

Good morning!

Anyone with idea on how to build a mini sand dredger or where to rent should please share with me.
If you can also provide me with information on where to get local miners, I will be glad.

I have a parcel of land that I’d like to restore its shoreline.

Thanks.

______
Pic - Soil samples

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adesegun121(m): 9:07am On Feb 17, 2021
sgtponzihater1:
I need a contractor to re-roof my house on a budget, as old roofing has gone off. Any recommendations?
I recommend myself (ImranRoofing)
Whatsapp 08085310359
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by MMotimo: 9:10am On Feb 17, 2021
Dijita:

@lawyer
do you still stand by this comment from 2016?

Good question, I’d love to know

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