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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rexology: 10:36am On Feb 18, 2021
[quote author=n3xt post=99182148]!!! I have 100 bags of cement for sale in Sagamu, Ogun state!!!

I bought the cements for a personal project but changed my mind along the line on when to commence the project.

N2900 per bag (pay and pick up)[/quote ]
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rexology: 10:38am On Feb 18, 2021
n3xt:
!!! I have 100 bags of cement for sale in Sagamu, Ogun state!!!

I bought the cements for a personal project but changed my mind along the line on when to commence the project.

N2900 per bag (pay and pick up)
I bought #4,000 per bag this morning in Makurdi.I developed head ache immediately I paid for it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 11:09am On Feb 18, 2021
InvertedHammer:

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A few weeks ago when Spyder880 needed some input in a design he is building, I mentioned two gentlemen here he could reach out to for modification. It was an honest assessment of the work they showed here in my opinion.
A project came up and I recommended your name in similar fashion. It seems that you did a good job in your assignment.
Then I got this call yesterday. You gave a quotation for another job(burglar proof). There was a delay and you reminded him that there will be variation in prices due to inflation. He asked you to fix the prices to reflect the changes for immediate mobilization. Along the line you requested and got the number of the man doing the Alumaco fix. You wanted the Alumaco man to alter his measurements and make the windows a little bit smaller so that both of you can make more profit. The Alumaco man vehemently told you off that he doesn't conduct his business that way.
Now...why would you go behind your client to try to alter measurements in a bid to cheat him? He didn't say that you scammed him but your integrity is called to question. I had to wade in to talk to the Alumaco guy and he corroborated the story. I wish I can post the voice recording here.
Meanwhile, I take full responsibility for this as I was the one that talked gleefully about your work as if I know you. But I learned my lesson. Integrity! Integrity!! Integrity!!!
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IMAGINE - JUST IMAGINE....

You couldn't EVEN call michlins since you recommended him to discuss this, you discussed with 2 guys in private and accused the 3rd in public - when you all could have cleared this off -here...

YAH ALL ARE LUCKY I'M NOT SEUN - and yes seun needs to close this thread - ITS AS USELSS AS IT CAN GET NOW...... and shame on us all.

IF NA ME BE michlins person wire me this kind useless accusation - I GO JUST RETURN NNA MONEY - rather than try to explain jack...

Its time for me to leave this now useless thread, afterall even the thread owner (my oga) mufutau55 left .... if anyone needs my help, kindly tag me...

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by jabolo(m): 12:11pm On Feb 18, 2021
gbadexy:
In other matters, I feel clients shouldn't be made to feel reluctant to report any anomaly here.
I think it's good for online business and helps to put all parties on their toes and be of their best behaviour.
Once the suspect clears his/herself, it would serve as more advert.
However, it's better to choose words to use carefully and not use fraud to describe the accused when it hasn't been proven beyond reasonable doubt.
In all of these, discerning minds know and appreciate the objective peace makers even when their submission may not go well with either parties involved.
God no go shame us.

Some wise fellow used the expression ... Too many cooks.

This forum will add maggi, periwinkle, tomato, crayfish ... until the soup is unrecognizable.

I have employed many artisans here, some don't even know me. They are predominantly good people.

I apologize (and will delete my one or two posts) hinting that one of those was purposely fraudulent, not because I wasn't defrauded of the millions of Naira (I was), but because this is not the best forum to resolve things or label people. Deal with it outside.

Ciao.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Blessedsunny2(m): 12:24pm On Feb 18, 2021
6200 per meter for 60x60
boyestic:


prices please
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adesegun121(m): 12:26pm On Feb 18, 2021
Housing And Land: The Cost Of Land And Housing In Nigeria

>> https://www.nairaland.com/6414312/housing-land-cost-land-housing
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 12:29pm On Feb 18, 2021
jabolo:


Some wise fellow used the expression ... Too many cooks.

This forum will add maggi, periwinkle, tomato, crayfish ... until the soup is unrecognizable.

I have employed many artisans here, some don't even know me. They are predominantly good people.

I apologize (and will delete my one or two posts) hinting that one of those was purposely fraudulent, not because I wasn't defrauded of the millions of Naira (I was), but because this is not the best forum to resolve things or label people. Deal with it outside.

Ciao.
I'm also a beneficiary of your patronage sir.
It was a very pleasant experience.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 12:47pm On Feb 18, 2021
saydfact:



IMAGINE - JUST IMAGINE....

You couldn't EVEN call michlins since you recommended him to discuss this, you discussed with 2 guys in private and accused the 3rd in public - when you all could have cleared this off -here...

YAH ALL ARE LUCKY I'M NOT SEUN - and yes seun needs to close this thread - ITS AS USELSS AS IT CAN GET NOW...... and shame on us all.

IF NA ME BE michlins person wire me this kind useless accusation - I GO JUST RETURN NNA MONEY - rather than try to explain jack...

Its time for me to leave this now useless thread, afterall even the thread owner (my oga) mufutau55 left .... if anyone needs my help, kindly tag me...

Return which money?? Man not even paid yet or mobilized....still under negotiations I believe...abeg make them free the guy....all these so unnecessary....I tire joor

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 1:13pm On Feb 18, 2021
dongc:


Return which money?? Man not even paid yet or mobilized....still under negotiations I believe...abeg make them free the guy....all these so unnecessary....I tire joor
that's why am so tired about the whole thing. I asked if I had plans to cheat him, would I not wait until I have the money. I haven't even submitted my quotation.

How on earth did I become a fraud. My first job with him,he didn't acknowledge that I did it well but was very fast to call me a fraud for a job I didn't submit a quotation for

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by somehow: 1:14pm On Feb 18, 2021
michlins:
that's why am so tired about the whole thing. I asked if I had plans to cheat him, would I not wait until I have the money. I haven't even submitted my quotation.

How on earth did I become a fraud. My first job with him,he didn't acknowledge that I did it well but was very fast to call me a fraud for a job I didn't submit a quotation for

My advice : Let that job go.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 1:15pm On Feb 18, 2021
somehow:


My advice : Let that job go.
I'm fighting for my name not the job

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 1:32pm On Feb 18, 2021
dongc:


Return which money?? Man not even paid yet or mobilized....still under negotiations I believe...abeg make them free the guy....all these so unnecessary....I tire joor

IMAGINE - abeg which kind contractor wld call another contractor you've not met from Adam and tell him to help you cheat someone you've worked for multiple times (or on recommendation) -

Even if na my kid them tell that one, he wld just laugh and continue watching his Nickelodeon grin grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 1:35pm On Feb 18, 2021
This is Nairaland!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 1:38pm On Feb 18, 2021
michlins:
I'm fighting for my name not the job

ARE YOU JOBLESS (no disrespect pls)

As anything happened to your name here? - ABEG IGNORE THIS CRAP and thank God it no pass this one - dude wld have easily used ARMY to arrest you if 1 simple mistake happen....

I'VE SAID IT HERE SEVERALLY - THE NUMBER OF JOBS I'VE TURNED DOWN FROM THIS NL - IS MORE THAN I HAVE GOTTEN....... I kant come and let one somebori accuse me of what I have not done because of 1k or even 1m.....

BRO - LEAVE THEIR JOB AND MOVE ON....

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 1:40pm On Feb 18, 2021
saydfact:


IMAGINE - abeg which kind contractor wld call another contractor you've not met from Adam and tell him to help you cheat someone you've worked for multiple times (or on recommendation) -

Even if na my kid them tell that one, he wld just laugh and continue watching his Nickelodeon grin grin grin

My brother the thing tire me ooo..we need to build bridges....hope someone is not playing small God here... undecided
hope for amicable solution
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 1:41pm On Feb 18, 2021
michlins:
that's why am so tired about the whole thing. I asked if I had plans to cheat him, would I not wait until I have the money. I haven't even submitted my quotation.

How on earth did I become a fraud. My first job with him,he didn't acknowledge that I did it well but was very fast to call me a fraud for a job I didn't submit a quotation for

NA DEM - thank your GOD -

SEUN we need to have a button for blocking people on this app abeg........

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by GreenArrow1(m): 2:12pm On Feb 18, 2021
michlins:
that's why am so tired about the whole thing. I asked if I had plans to cheat him, would I not wait until I have the money. I haven't even submitted my quotation.

How on earth did I become a fraud. My first job with him,he didn't acknowledge that I did it well but was very fast to call me a fraud for a job I didn't submit a quotation for

I'll definitely be using your service soon when I commence work in the SE.
Sometimes, accusations turn into good adverts. I'm a builder so I perfectly understand your point of view.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by InvertedHammer: 3:13pm On Feb 18, 2021
saydfact:



IMAGINE - JUST IMAGINE....

You couldn't EVEN call michlins since you recommended him to discuss this, you discussed with 2 guys in private and accused the 3rd in public - when you all could have cleared this off -here...

YAH ALL ARE LUCKY I'M NOT SEUN - and yes seun needs to close this thread - ITS AS USELSS AS IT CAN GET NOW...... and shame on us all.

IF NA ME BE michlins person wire me this kind useless accusation - I GO JUST RETURN NNA MONEY - rather than try to explain jack...

Its time for me to leave this now useless thread, afterall even the thread owner (my oga) mufutau55 left .... if anyone needs my help, kindly tag me...
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Your opinion. I don't think most people will notice or feel your absence in the thread. At least you admitted that you are not Seun.

Calling people in private is why many things get unchecked here until it is too late then folks start appearing from woodworks to narrate their stories.

I wish Michlin luck. He can learn and perfect his business practice or choose to remain in defense mode. As inter alia noted, the call out was for a questionable business practice.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 3:25pm On Feb 18, 2021
InvertedHammer:

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Your opinion. I don't think most people will notice or feel your absence in the thread. At least you admitted that you are not Seun.

Calling people in private is why many things get unchecked here until it is too late then folks start appearing from woodworks to narrate their stories.

I wish Michlin luck. He can learn and perfect his business practice or choose to remain in defense mode. As inter alia noted, the call out was for a questionable business practice.
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so because am a vendor here, I don't have the right to defend myself when my person and business is attacked?


I should just allow you to rubbish everything I have been working for these past months based on what you assume would happen?

Attached is the window in question, how do you expect me to correct any error should there be one due to two contractors supplying different sizes.

Once again I'm glad for the previous opportunity you gave me and am happy I did it as to your specification and standard

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 3:32pm On Feb 18, 2021
InvertedHammer:

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Your opinion. I don't think most people will notice or feel your absence in the thread. At least you admitted that you are not Seun.

Calling people in private is why many things get unchecked here until it is too late then folks start appearing from woodworks to narrate their stories.

I wish Michlin luck. He can learn and perfect his business practice or choose to remain in defense mode. As inter alia noted, the call out was for a questionable business practice.
/


When I said 'tag me' - I meant people who deserves to.
Thanks for the tag however.....

NEXT !!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 3:40pm On Feb 18, 2021
michlins:
so because am a vendor here, I don't have the right to defend myself when my person and business is attacked?


I should just allow you to rubbish everything I have been working for these past months based on what you assume would happen?

Attached is the window in question, how do you expect me to correct any error should there be one due to two contractors supplying different sizes.

Once again I'm glad for the previous opportunity you gave me and am happy I did it as to your specification and standard

I also congratulate you on the success achieved on his project...... THIS IS THE 1ST TIME, I'll see someone being accused of wrong doing (for a job yet to be awarded to him and for which no commitment has been made) - Its same as a SARS officer arresting me because I carry a laptop..

HILARIOUS..... JUST HILARIOUS

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 3:48pm On Feb 18, 2021
OK GUYS......

SEE YAH ALL LATER - AND MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BE OUR GUIDE AND BLESSING. . . .

KEEP IT REAL, DEAL HONESTLY WITH PEOPLE AND NEVER LET THE LOVE OF MONEY OVERCOME THE LOVE OF HUMANITY.

PEACE TO ALL . . . . ( I hope I no offend anybody, if I have - no vex grin grin grin )

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dijita: 4:23pm On Feb 18, 2021
Hello everyone
I am considering bio digester for my project. Can anyone who have install it for a period of 2 to 3 years kindly share their experience?
One major concern I have is how the microbes in the digester will survive when one clean the bathroom and toilet bowl with bleach or some other cleaning agent

Thanks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by 44chux(m): 4:35pm On Feb 18, 2021
Dijita:
Hello everyone
I am considering bio digester for my project. Can anyone who have install it for a period of 2 to 3 years kindly share their experience?
One major concern I have is how the microbes in the digester will survive when one clean the bathroom and toilet bowl with bleach or some other cleaning agent

Thanks
Certain cleaning agents reduce but does not annihilate them completely. They always repopulate. Much like what happens to our gut flora (microbiome) when we take antibiotics.

Even if you were to sterilise the vessel, and fill with fresh faeces, they will eventually be repopulated by those bacteria till they reach equilibrium point in tbe ecosystem. Their is actually an equation to determine the exact duration it would take. Flushing ready-made bio boosters (called biomass) down one of the toilets, shortens the time.

As long as there is food (feces) and oxygen(aeration), no shaking. Lack of adequate aeration shifts the system equilibrium to support more anerobic bacteria resulting in more foul smell (h2s etc)

Not recommended for use where you cannot monitor frequency of use of those harsh agents, because you need that to determine the frequency of dosing with the biomass. Otherwise just use worst case and dose biweekly

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lightdream: 5:23pm On Feb 18, 2021
Goodday house,Please anyone to help with the contact for digging a pair of soak-away (big & small) in Atan Area of Ogun State.Thank you

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 5:35pm On Feb 18, 2021
jabolo:


Some wise fellow used the expression ... Too many cooks.

This forum will add maggi, periwinkle, tomato, crayfish ... until the soup is unrecognizable.

I have employed many artisans here, some don't even know me. They are predominantly good people.

I apologize (and will delete my one or two posts) hinting that one of those was purposely fraudulent, not because I wasn't defrauded of the millions of Naira (I was), but because this is not the best forum to resolve things or label people. Deal with it outside.

Ciao.

deal wuth fraud outside when you met the person here?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 5:59pm On Feb 18, 2021
lightdream:
Goodday house,Please anyone to help with the contact for digging a pair of soak-away (big & small) in Atan Area of Ogun State.Thank you
am working around that area I can get Someone for you

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KelvinCoaster(m): 7:34pm On Feb 18, 2021
InvertedHammer:

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Your opinion. I don't think most people will notice or feel your absence in the thread. At least you admitted that you are not Seun.

Calling people in private is why many things get unchecked here until it is too late then folks start appearing from woodworks to narrate their stories.

I wish Michlin luck. He can learn and perfect his business practice or choose to remain in defense mode. As inter alia noted, the call out was for a questionable business practice.
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You need apologize to michlin because you called him out due to your one sided perception about his request to the alumaco guy.
I wonder why it is easy to shout ''thief,fraud,scam'' but too difficult to say ''sorry,apologies,forgive me''.

cribking1 vs mountmoriah saga still in my mind.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by lightdream: 8:01pm On Feb 18, 2021
twinskenny:
am working around that area I can get Someone for you
Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sgtponzihater1(m): 9:10pm On Feb 18, 2021
Anyone have an idea the average cost of fencing 3 plots of land. Just moderate height blocks. Possibly 7-8 blocks high. Cheers
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gurunlocker: 10:02pm On Feb 18, 2021
KelvinCoaster:

You need apologize to michlin because you called him out due to your one sided perception about his request to the alumaco guy.
I wonder why it is easy to shout ''thief,fraud,scam'' but too difficult to say ''sorry,apologies,forgive me''.

cribking1 vs mountmoriah saga still in my mind.

Obviously, saying sorry is very hard for him. He himself know he has been wrong with everything. But he doesn't want to take the backlash after calling someone fraud. Because you refer him doesn't give you the right to boss on him.


Like most people have said, it's all miscommunication. He really needs to retract his statement about that michlin guy.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mank1234(m): 10:11pm On Feb 18, 2021
lastpage:
I have been quietly following recent situations here.
On this Window issue.....

If a Window is quoted and priced based on 4ft X 4ft, l will expect the Alluminium Window to be exactly 4 X 4 and to install it, the Bricklayer simply chisels back some part of the Wall Opening, if at all, to allow the frame into the 4 X 4 Space provided on the Wall.
When it comes to Burglary, same process applies even moreso if the Burglary is to be installed outside of the Aluminium Casing.
To install it, the installer chisels the point of installation, the Burglary slips-in and it is cemented in. Most come with 'legs' for that purpose.

I have never bought a 7 x 4 or 6 X 3 door and it measures anything less than that, it is the Wall frame that gets dressed a little to allow that frame to slip in.

So, l dont understand where all these argument about "reducing the frame size" from what was quoted, comes in.

But in retrospect and in my own personal opinion, l will give @Michelins the benefit of the doubt in this matter.
WHY?
- the case against him, as it is right now, is not strong enough / weak, to call him out on financial impropriety or fraud.
It is like loosing a case on 'technical grounds', because you dont have solid evidence or your evidence cannot prove your case BEYOND DOUBT..

- @michelins has not shown such nefarious tendency, not even the slightest, in his short time on this thread/Nairaland.

I believe he took a LAZY DECISION (reducing burglary size, in all honesty), that will make fixing his Burglary work easier (in his own reasoning) and that decision may, UNINTENTIONALLY, also save him a some amount of money on materials to be used for the job ( no matter how small) but in all honesty, l dont think his intention was to defraud the Client by "under- producing to quoted size".

The Client has the Right to be furious that the Dimensions he paid for, are being reduced (for whatever reasons), without his knowledge and consent! The Contractor should at the very least, inform the Client well- ahead of such decision.

"Ceaser's wife must not only be Clean, she must be seen to be Clean"
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But when in doubt, we should always give the accused person the benefit of the doubt.
l dont think the intention of @michelins was to do any hanky-panky to his Client.

I will plead with @InvertedHarmmer to ask his Client to overlook this "error" on the part of the Contractor.

I will also ask @michelins or any other contractor in here, to understand that once an agreement is reached with a Client, any variation, even if it is to the benefit of the Client, should be explained and discussed with the Client, get the nod of the Client, before implementation, so as to avoid this sort of unintended situation.
@michelins, please make-up with your Client privately and get his confidence back. Avoid being lured into blaming the Alumaco guy, it serves no purpose.

@All, please let us not escalate this matter by pouring more fuel into it.
God bless.


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