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Optional09:
if our enemies use the rope, then we won without lifting a stick. In the end that would be the resolve of all the Yoruba peoples enemies

How would your enemies use Rop when they are cooking off in their homes and turning your land to bleed

Monogamy:
Northerners are stopping food items movement temporary to Southern Nigeria, yet the only affected region in the south would be SW that's according to you?

On the first instance, having such evil thinking about others is backward reasoning.

All this your thread is all about is for war to start between Northerners and SW so that you can sit across your table and watch the season film, then make justification like ' SW should also have a feel of war'

That's someone's reasoning in 21st century

Do you blame the haters for doing their job, why not blame Yorubas for not reading between the lines.

Let me put as it is, and as it should be
1) I'm an easterner, this is a very important factor, cause tribes hold sway in Nigeria.
2) I stayed in the east, middle belt, core north, and west, another important factor.
4) Islam in core north recognises tribe more than in West, thus a western Muslim is more accomodating than core northern Muslim.
3) the core north is not all that good in agriculture, they're mostly middle men based in transporting foodstuff from mainly middle belt region to Southern Nigeria with their trailers.
4)the western region has vast land and is even more fertile than the middlebelt region
5)the western region are better in modern practices of agriculture than all other regions, but have not really concentrated their energy in it.
6) when it comes to indigenous industry, the east and the west are on top
7) in the event of separation, the west will be the richest, because of human, agricultural, and natural, resources.
the west is unnecessarily afraid of the core north, infact core north hold on Nigeria Will collapse, if the west withdraw their support, and core north knows.
9) The middlebelt, east and "especially" the west pull a lot of punches, thinking that core north reasons like humans and are always amazed at the way core north reasons
10) There is only bone way to interact with a core northerner, I'm talking with experience; if a core northerner slaps you, SLAP him back HARD, he will understand that it's painful, and will not try it again.
But, if you continue explaining to him that it's a Haram(sin) for him to be slapping a fellow man for no reason, he will SLAP you to DEATH.

jude79:
Let me put as it is, and as it should be
1) I'm an easterner, this is a very important factor, cause tribes hold sway in Nigeria.
2) I stayed in the east, middle belt, core north, and west, another important factor.
4) Islam in core north recognises tribe more than in West, thus a western Muslim is more accomodating than core northern Muslim.
3) the core north is not all that good in agriculture, they're mostly middle men based in transporting foodstuff from mainly middle belt region to Southern Nigeria with their trailers.
4)the western region has vast land and is even more fertile than the middlebelt region
5)the western region are better in modern practices of agriculture than all other regions, but have not really concentrated their energy in it.
6) when it comes to indigenous industry, the east and the west are on top
7) in the event of separation, the west will be the richest, because of human, agricultural, and natural, resources.
the west is unnecessarily afraid of the core north, infact core north hold on Nigeria Will collapse, if the west withdraw their support, and core north knows.
9) The middlebelt, east and "especially" the west pull a lot of punches, thinking that core north reasons like humans and are always amazed at the way core north reasons
10) There is only bone way to interact with a core northerner, I'm talking with experience; if a core northerner slaps you, SLAP him back HARD, he will understand that it's painful, and will not try it again.
But, if you continue explaining to him that it's a Haram(sin) for him to be slapping a fellow man for no reason, he will SLAP you to DEATH.

I have only one few points to correct, which is that the west and the east are at par in indigenous industry, the west and the North are at par with indigenous industry but the East especially Igboland is on a different level, why did I say so, most of the western industries are agro allied, just as seen in the North, their industry are mainly agro allied.

Eastern industries are not agro allied but mechanics and tech, which means the rest can not do without the east while the North can do without the west, the west can also do without the North but both side can not do without the east but unless the west and the North is United they can't deal with the Igbos becuase the North and west are both alternatives to what Igbos lack (Agro Allied).

Now should Nigeria divide (Very unlikely) the west won't be as successful as it is being speculated why, because while the west can feed herself they don't have the industrial capacity to support other aspects of development, now let's take for instance aviation, while the west have only one functional airport the east have over 5, now should Nigeria divide, would lagos alone be able to carter for air cargo a very crucial aspect of Morden economy.

Now, Eastern ports are viable options and after Lagos the next state in the rich least is Rivers, now Rivers especially will be contested should Nigeria divide but after Nigeria, Rivers will be more successful than Lagos and should the fight between the North and the south persist the North being landlocked may look into Eastern ports, PH have every potential to take over from Lagos, in fact what can Lagos offer that PH can not offer.

I'm not going to judge which region will be more successful post Nigeria but I can assure you that the East will continue playing the North against the west to get better food deal and the east has no competition in the area we dominate like aviation, car manufacturing, weaponry, aba clothes and shoes, marketing and imports, no one is going to challenge the Igbos in that aspect anytime soon

AlexBells:
I have only one few points to correct, which is that the west and the east are at par in indigenous industry, the west and the North are at par with indigenous industry but the East especially Igboland is on a different level, why did I say so, most of the western industries are agro allied, just as seen in the North, their industry are mainly agro allied.

Eastern industries are not agro allied but mechanics and tech, which means the rest can not do without the east while the North can do without the west, the west can also do without the North but both side can not do without the east but unless the west and the North is United they can't deal with the Igbos becuase the North and west are both alternatives to what Igbos lack (Agro Allied).

Now should Nigeria divide (Very unlikely) the west won't be as successful as it is being speculated why, because while the west can feed herself they don't have the industrial capacity to support other aspects of development, now let's take for instance aviation, while the west have only one functional airport the east have over 5, now should Nigeria divide, would lagos alone be able to carter for air cargo a very crucial aspect of Morden economy.

Now, Eastern ports are viable options and after Lagos the next state in the rich least is Rivers, now Rivers especially will be contested should Nigeria divide but after Nigeria, Rivers will be more successful than Lagos and should the fight between the North and the south persist the North being landlocked may look into Eastern ports, PH have every potential to take over from Lagos, in fact what can Lagos offer that PH can not offer.

I'm not going to judge which region will be more successful post Nigeria but I can assure you that the East will continue playing the North against the west to get better food deal and the east has no competition in the area we dominate like aviation, car manufacturing, weaponry, aba clothes and shoes, marketing and imports, no one is going to challenge the Igbos in that aspect anytime soon

You talk am as e be.

This article is not really a credible one because it fails to take into account two vital points which are; 1. the south can grow it's own food supply, 2. Lagos is located in the West and without Lagos we all know how this country will be.

Maghan37:
This article is not really a credible one because it fails to take into account two vital points which are; 1. the south can grow it's own food supply, 2. Lagos is located in the West and without Lagos we all know how this country will be.

I could have preferred if you could have made your point without hinting on credibility, then back to the argument.

West can grow food, East can grow food but not all part of the East, oil spillage had ravaged most part of Ijaw and Ogoni land so food production is not going to be that simple for them, then the next people Akwa/Cross, yes they can produce food which they are trying but this is an emergency situation, they can't just manufacture or produce enough within 6 months, then the next people are we Igbos, while we have enough land for agriculture, these spare lands now are thick forests, it will take about a month to clear in summary before we think of this food fight we need to buy time, at least 7 months, so count the entire East out of food fight we are down.

Now option 2, south west and Benue, yes south west one can feed the whole country but that won't happen when violence and insecurities had made farming hard lately in the west, still south west did not see this coming but yet they can buy time by opening their borders, south west needs at least 4 months.

Option 3, middle belt, well they are there but the major issue is a situation where the whole South have to look up to Middle belt, demand will be high and price will rise so that's the major issue the South is not prepared, now the few food Yorubas have will be fed themselves first now we in the East have to rely on the Middle belt and North, so that's why saying something like the south can farm is not as simple as it sounds.

2. Nothing special about Lagos, Lagos was made, another can be made, what is special about Lagos apart from import/Export, what happens if FG directs all sea transport to Eastern ports, would Lagos still hold the special status, knowing that this is a war against the North and the North is in power.

AlexBells:
It might seem funny but The West have no retaliatory chip unless war, any attempt by the west to Retaliate will be destructive. The fact remains that the core west is an Agricultural economy and as such has nothing to offer the core North that the North can't offer herself.

The biggest chip could have been to blockade the Western port, but that's a waste of time becuase they themselves needs the port especially now that they are on blockade. Even if blocking the Western Port was an option it will only mean that the Northern FG, will revert to Eastern Ports.

It is true that food could still get to the west but this food is going to be highly priced becuase if Kwara is the point of the blockade it means that we are all going to look up to Benue and Kogi, now the East and the West looking up to these two channels is going to skyrocket a competition, Benue and Kogi won't be enough should the blockade last long.

Even if the blockade is targeted on only the West and the East will get food, the East would not be easily able to be capable of shipping these food to west, because the East had never been food exporting people, we need lot of food to eat so we sending food to the west will be a big problem.

Now the West have another bright option, to open their borders, note, the only part of the South that can retaliate the North is Ndigbo, Igbos can also go on strike and stop clothing, drug and machine parts to the North.

People may think that Niger Delta can retaliate but if they cut off oil supply it will become a national emergency and everyone might be plunged into darkness, we all know that Niger Delta can not hurt the North becuases Gasoline is imported, they can cut of crude supply not gasoline supply, and if you do that, the whole country will hurt but that's a lot of time before they can even achieve that.

With the whole country at hult, we all still needs food, now what is the west's retaliatory power I had always told every reasonable South Westerners and Northerners that food is going to be weaponized and AlaIgbo don't have enough food to stand between two food giants (North and West).

your analysis is totally of the mark. Infact fish is currently trending in the south . We are not going to do this alone .we will do this jointly. Fuel imports , medicines, palm oil, vegetable oil , fertilizer dearly needed by the unfertile soil ,machinery etc can be blocked getting to the north. Everything produce can be done in the south and at worst imported in greater quantity from other places via the ports. Are the tankers going to fly or the trucks that carry daily essential to the north going to fly. They will pass through southern routes to provide even the basic salt you use .Your cows needs medicines .all pass through the south. All industries of note that produce daily essential in large quantities are majorly in the south. The major food produce by the north of note is beans and cow Which can be cultivated here.the only things is the trucks and the middlemen you have in the chain of supply .bulk of the stuff you eat are produced by the middlebelt. The south has its own brand of tomatoes,yam , corn . Beans and cow can be imported I'm large and cheaper quantity that what is presently obtainable.to hell with your irrelevant talk

jude79:
Let me put as it is, and as it should be
1) I'm an easterner, this is a very important factor, cause tribes hold sway in Nigeria.
2) I stayed in the east, middle belt, core north, and west, another important factor.
4) Islam in core north recognises tribe more than in West, thus a western Muslim is more accomodating than core northern Muslim.
3) the core north is not all that good in agriculture, they're mostly middle men based in transporting foodstuff from mainly middle belt region to Southern Nigeria with their trailers.
4)the western region has vast land and is even more fertile than the middlebelt region
5)the western region are better in modern practices of agriculture than all other regions, but have not really concentrated their energy in it.
6) when it comes to indigenous industry, the east and the west are on top
7) in the event of separation, the west will be the richest, because of human, agricultural, and natural, resources.
the west is unnecessarily afraid of the core north, infact core north hold on Nigeria Will collapse, if the west withdraw their support, and core north knows.
9) The middlebelt, east and "especially" the west pull a lot of punches, thinking that core north reasons like humans and are always amazed at the way core north reasons
10) There is only bone way to interact with a core northerner, I'm talking with experience; if a core northerner slaps you, SLAP him back HARD, he will understand that it's painful, and will not try it again.
But, if you continue explaining to him that it's a Haram(sin) for him to be slapping a fellow man for no reason, he will SLAP you to DEATH.

guy your explanation is on point. One of the best summarization I have come across in a long while. On point.

chrisblack:
your analysis is totally of the mark. Infact fish is currently trending in the south . We are not going to do this alone .we will do this jointly. Fuel imports , medicines, palm oil, vegetable oil , fertilizer dearly needed by the unfertile soil ,machinery etc can be blocked getting to the north. Everything produce can be done in the south and at worst imported in greater quantity from other places via the ports. Are the tankers going to fly or the trucks that carry daily essential to the north going to fly. They will pass through southern routes to provide even the basic salt you use .Your cows needs medicines .all pass through the south. All industries of note that produce daily essential in large quantities are majorly in the south. The major food produce by the south of note is beans and cow Which can be cultivated here. The south has its own brand of tomatoes,yam , corn . Beans and cow can be imported I'm large and cheaper quantity that what is presently obtainable.to hell with your irrelevant talk

How can you have a United South, in the sense you are talking, would you share western food ??, the east for all I know don't have what it takes to join the food fight and as far as the west did not blockade the eastern link, those items you mentioned will still reach the North at least it will reach middle belt and from there it will get to core North North don't even think the north's has no war strategist

Monogamy:
Avoiding unnecessary war is not a sign of coward...

If the North are stopping selling their food items to South West or any other southern region, let Southern region also stop transporting whatever they may be producing to the north.

Southern Nigeria have borders with other Africa countries... We can get our stuffs from them. If buying the items at the high price is the price to pay to stop the unnecessary killing, so be it .

Let's wait and see if the countries the Northerners want to be selling to have the purchasing power.

Btw, this is a long due opportunity for southern region to go into agriculture fully.. We have fertile soil

THis is between North west and South west, make una no join anybody for this una fight... when una dey play love una no gree anybody join so fight your fight alone........
this is a case of a master and a slave- Oba tupac

Kyase:
THis is between North west and South west, make una no join anybody for this una fight... when una dey play love una no gree anybody join so fight your fight alone........
this is a case of a master and a slave- Oba tupac

Lol

AlexBells:
How can you have a United South, in the sense you are talking, would you share western food ??, the east for all I know don't have what it takes to join the food fight and as far as the west did not blockade the eastern link, those items you mentioned will still reach the North at least it will reach middle belt and from there it will get to core North North don't even think the north's has no war strategist

strategy .I laugh in swahili. You mean the east that has opened the eyes of others to gross injustices , will take a second fiddle in this situation? See the biggest mistake was thinking the days of divide and rule will still work. Yes there will always be different between the east,west ,niger delta etc . Which they can always come to agree. Forget all you seeing nairaland. They live together and interact day to day and even marry.they understand each other's strength and limitations. But they all know injustices by its name and will jointly call it out .Even the middle belt are tired. Gov orton said on channels Tv there are over 800,000 idps in his state. The middle belt are ready. The west is ready the east e we ready, the Niger deltans ever articulate. You are waking up what you can't control. No strategy will stop a people when their only option his to die or defend their lives ,culture and heritage

JONSYN7154:
Lol

It's funny now, the south west is talking about a singular south because eyes don red i remember post 2015 wey dem use banter wan finish the remaining 2 region, even me sef mumu join dem sef

Kyase:
It's funny now, the south west is talking about a singular south because eyes don red i remember post 2015 wey dem use banter wan finish the remaining 2 region, even me sef mumu join dem sef

are you kidding me?

chrisblack:
strategy .I laugh in swahili. You mean the east that has opened the eyes of others to gross injustices , will take a second fiddle in this situation? See the biggest mistake was thinking the days of divide and rule will still work. Yes there will always be different between the east,west ,niger delta etc . Which they can always come to agree. Forget all you seeing nairaland. They live together and interact day to day and even marry.they understand each other's strength and limitations. But they all know injustices by its name and will jointly call it out .Even the middle belt are tired. Gov orton said on channels Tv there are over 800,000 idps in his state. The middle belt are ready. The west is ready the east e we ready, the Niger deltans ever articulate. You are waking up what you can't control. No strategy will stop a people when their only option his to die or defend their lives ,culture and heritage

If you are being sincere you really think the East (AlaIgbo and South South) will join in the food fight, abeg we know what starvation looks like you don't, if we must fight, we fight In our own terms, if it is not weapons fight, AlaIgbo ain't fighting get it as a fact from me to you, middle belt and west will be fine not us, so let's get to the part where we use weapons or for now it is just an economic warfare between the west and the north.

JONSYN7154:
are you kidding me?

nope, na wetin happen be that

Kyase:
It's funny now, the south west is talking about a singular south because eyes don red i remember post 2015 wey dem use banter wan finish the remaining 2 region, even me sef mumu join dem sef

Are you not a paid APC apologist from Benue?

Or was he your butt licking stopped?

Iamgrey5:
Are you not a paid APC apologist from Benue?

Or was he your butt licking stopped?

who be this again
you no know say i don repent?
dont be an accuser of the brethren oooo

Kyase:
who be this again you no know say i don repent? dont be an accuser of the brethren oooo

Iamgrey5:
The blockade can Still happen.

There's no capacity to import petroleum products from Eastern ports otherwise they will have started long time ago.

Only Lagos port has large storage capacity for imported Petroleum products built over years.

They can't just build the multi million dollars project in three weeks in the East.

There’s no infrastructure to even move petrol from east to north

Omoodua007:
There’s no infrastructure to even move petrol from east to north

Go and ask Biafrans how they sustained Petrol for 3 years, if petrol is your bargaining chip even without Imports, we can refine enough in the East and keep the country running, what other infrastructure does it need to move apart from fuel tanks

AlexBells:
Go and ask Biafrans how they sustained Petrol for 3 years, if petrol is your bargaining chip even without Imports, we can refine enough in the East and keep the country running, what other infrastructure does it need to move apart from fuel tanks

True
But west still has comparative advantage due to presence of international borders
South south doesn’t have vibrant borders

Iamgrey5:
The South west have a lot of retaliate

Stop petroleum from reaching North

Stop finished goods from reaching the north etc.

But the best thing here is that the best response is to aggressively invest in Agriculture and help build our economy again.

Lagos will suffer the most from the Agricultural blockade than other South West states, but other South West states can use the opportunity to establish supply chain in Lagos that seems to have been lost to the Hausas merchants in the past.

This blockade is a blessing in disguise.

So while North continue to depend on us, we can become independent of them.

I agree with you. Lagos is my worry. However, there are alot of agrarian communities in ogun state that can supply Lagos. Other south west states are purely agrarian communities. People should protect themselves from marauding fulani herdsmen.

If Ibadan boys block oil tankers from moving , petroleum products cannot get to the north.

Core North will suffer in the end and middle belt states like benue, plateau, Kogi, taraba, nasarawa will supply food to south west enroute ekiti state. Local farmers would smile to the banks due to lagos factor. This may trigger agricultural revolution.

Kyase:
who be this again you no know say i don repent? dont be an accuser of the brethren oooo

Stop with the pretence

Another dumb thread by an IPOBian. These people are forever cursed to be taking Panadol for Yoruba headache whil unconcerned about the fatal brain tumor in their own head. Pathetic people.

Oshigun:
Another dumb thread by an IPOBian. These people are forever cursed to be taking Panadol for Yoruba headache whil unconcerned about the fatal brain tumor in their own head. Pathetic people.

Loooooool

Omoodua007:
True
But west still has comparative advantage due to presence of international borders
South south doesn’t have vibrant borders

Same things I'm saying you guys should force open your borders to survive the food fight and maybe win, you guys are at par with the core North in food production, I strongly believe that Middle belt and the little we produce can feed the East but if the whole South has to rely in middle belt then Yorubas are going to check pretty quick if your borders remains closed, you guys are the only match for the North in food weaponisation, middle belt don't have enough weapons nor enough tribal capacity to withstand the North, Igbos have weapons Superiority to the North or the rest but they can starve us, the North won't start an arms fight with Yorubas without blessings from the Igbos likewise the Yorubas can't go on arms battle without considering the Igbos but you see this food fight, both of you got what it takes to stand it shoulder to shoulder, don't get scared look the North deep in the eyes, break open your borders and the East will just watch, no side will pick up arms, once arms enter it AlaIgbo can't wait to get involved so brave it we wish both side luck but dont bargain with oil, we won't watch the country plunged into darkness, AlaIgbo will not stop our services of drug, clothing, shoes, machine parts etc. To any side, the fight should be fair and square

JONSYN7154:

atoh, person cannot repent in peace again?

AlexBells:
Same things I'm saying you guys should force open your borders to survive the food fight and maybe win, you guys are at par with the core North in food production, I strongly believe that Middle belt and the little we produce can feed the East but if the whole South has to rely in middle belt then Yorubas are going to check pretty quick if your borders remains closed, you guys are the only match for the North in food weaponisation, middle belt don't have enough weapons nor enough tribal capacity to withstand the North, Igbos have weapons Superiority to the North or the rest but they can starve us, the North won't start an arms fight with Yorubas without blessings from the Igbos likewise the Yorubas can't go on arms battle without considering the Igbos but you see this food fight, both of you got what it takes to stand it shoulder to shoulder, don't get scared look the North deep in the eyes, break open your borders and the East will just watch, no side will pick up arms, once arms enter it AlaIgbo can't wait to get involved so brave it we wish both side luck but dont bargain with oil, we won't watch the country plunged into darkness, AlaIgbo will not stop our services of drug, clothing, shoes, machine parts etc. To any side, the fight should be fair and square

Who’s fighting arms war here loool