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The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by chatinent: 5:48am On Mar 07, 2021
Definition: The word “hell” is found in many Bible translations. In the same verses other translations read “the grave,” “the world of the dead,” and so forth. Other Bibles simply transliterate the original-language words that are sometimes rendered “hell”; that is, they express them with the letters of our alphabet but leave the words untranslated. What are those words? The Hebrew she’ohlʹ and its Greek equivalent haiʹdes, which refer, not to an individual burial place, but to the common grave of dead mankind; also the Greek geʹen·na, which is used as a symbol of eternal destruction.

However, both in Christendom and in many non-Christian religions it is taught that hell is a place inhabited by demons and where the wicked, after death, are punished (and some believe that this is with torment).

Does the Bible indicate whether the dead experience pain?

Eccl. 9:5, 10: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all . . . All that your hand finds to do, do with your very power, for there is no work nor devising nor knowledge nor wisdom in Sheol,* the place to which you are going.” (If they are conscious of nothing, they obviously feel no pain.) (*“Sheol,” AS, RS, NE, JB; “the grave,” KJ, Kx; “hell,” Dy; “the world of the dead,” TEV.)

Ps. 146:4: “His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts* do perish.” (*“Thoughts,” KJ, 145:4 in Dy; “schemes,” JB; “plans,” RS, TEV.)


Does the Bible indicate that the soul survives the death of the body?

Ezek. 18:4: “The soul* that is sinning—it itself will die.” (*“Soul,” KJ, Dy, RS, NE, Kx; “the man,” JB; “the person,” TEV.)

“The concept of ‘soul,’ meaning a purely spiritual, immaterial reality, separate from the ‘body,’ . . . does not exist in the Bible.”—La Parole de Dieu (Paris, 1960), Georges Auzou, professor of Sacred Scripture, Rouen Seminary, France, p. 128.

“Although the Hebrew word nefesh [in the Hebrew Scriptures] is frequently translated as ‘soul,’ it would be inaccurate to read into it a Greek meaning. Nefesh . . . is never conceived of as operating separately from the body.

In the New Testament the Greek word psyche is often translated as ‘soul’ but again should not be readily understood to have the meaning the word had for the Greek philosophers. It usually means ‘life,’ or ‘vitality,’ or, at times, ‘the self.’”—The Encyclopedia Americana (1977), Vol. 25, p. 236.


What sort of people go to the Bible hell?

Does the Bible say that the wicked go to hell?
Ps. 9:17, KJ: “The wicked shall be turned into hell,* and all the nations that forget God.” (*“Hell,” 9:18 in Dy; “death,” TEV; “the place of death,” Kx; “Sheol,” AS, RS, NE, JB, NW.)

Does the Bible also say that upright people go to hell?

Job 14:13, Dy: “[Job prayed:] Who will grant me this, that thou mayst protect me in hell,* and hide me till thy wrath pass, and appoint me a time when thou wilt remember me?” (God himself said that Job was “a man blameless and upright, fearing God and turning aside from bad.”—Job 1:8.) (*“The grave,” KJ; “the world of the dead,” TEV; “Sheol,” AS, RS, NE, JB, NW.)

Acts 2:25-27, KJ: “David speaketh concerning him [Jesus Christ], . . . Because thou wilt not “leave” Jesus in hell implies that Jesus was in hell, or Hades, at least for a time, does it not?) (*“Hell,” Dy; “death,” NE; “the place of death,” Kx; “the world of the dead,” TEV; “Hades,” AS, RS, JB, NW.)

Does anyone ever get out of the Bible hell?
Rev. 20:13, 14, KJ: “The sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell* delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire.” (So the dead will be delivered from hell. Notice also that hell is not the same as the lake of fire but will be cast into the lake of fire.) (*“Hell,” Dy, Kx; “the world of the dead,” TEV; “Hades,” NE, AS, RS, JB, NW.)

Why is there confusion as to what the Bible says about hell?
“Much confusion and misunderstanding has been caused through the early translators of the Bible persistently rendering the Hebrew Sheol and the Greek Hades and Gehenna by the word hell. The simple transliteration of these words by the translators of the revised editions of the Bible has not sufficed to appreciably clear up this confusion and misconception.”—The Encyclopedia Americana (1942), Vol. XIV, p. 81.

Translators have allowed their personal beliefs to color their work instead of being consistent in their rendering of the original-language words.

For example:

(1) The King James Version rendered she’ohlʹ as “hell,” “the grave,” and “the pit”; haiʹdes is therein rendered both “hell” and “grave”; geʹen·na is also translated “hell.”

(2) Today’s English Version transliterates haiʹdes as “Hades” and also renders it as “hell” and “the world of the dead.” But besides rendering “hell” from haiʹdes it uses that same translation for geʹen·na.

(3) The Jerusalem Bible transliterates haiʹdes six times, but in other passages it translates it as “hell” and as “the underworld.” It also translates geʹen·na as “hell,” as it does haiʹdes in two instances. Thus the exact meanings of the original-language words have been obscured.Is there eternal punishment for the wicked?

Matt. 25:46, KJ: “These shall go away into translates it as “hell” and as “the underworld.” It also translates geʹen·na as “hell,” as it does haiʹdes in two instances. Thus the exact meanings of the original-language words have been obscured.

Is there eternal punishment for the wicked?

Matt. 25:46, KJ: “These shall go away into everlasting punishment [“lopping off,” Int; Greek, koʹla·sin]: but the righteous into life eternal.” (The Emphatic Diaglott reads “cutting-off” instead of “punishment.” A footnote states: “Kolasin . . . is derived from kolazoo, which signifies, 1. To cut off; as lopping off branches of trees, to prune. 2. To restrain, to repress. . . . 3. To chastise, to punish. To cut off an individual from life, or society, or even to restrain, is esteemed as punishment;—hence has arisen this third metaphorical use of the word.

The primary signification has been adopted, because it agrees better with the second member of the sentence, thus preserving the force and beauty of the antithesis. The righteous go to life, the wicked to the cutting off from life, or death. See 2 Thess. 1.9.”)

2 Thess. 1:9, RS: “They shall suffer the punishment of eternal destruction* and exclusion from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might.” (*“Eternal ruin,” NAB, NE; “lost eternally,” JB; “condemn them to eternal punishment,” Kx; “eternal punishment in destruction,” Dy.)Jude 7, KJ: “Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” (The fire that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah ceased burning thousands of years ago. But the effect of that fire has been lasting; the cities have not been rebuilt. God’s judgment, however, was against not merely those cities but also their wicked inhabitants. What happened to them is a warning example.

At Luke 17:29, Jesus says that they were “destroyed”; Jude 7 shows that the destruction was eternal.)

What is the meaning of the ‘eternal torment’ referred to in Revelation?
Rev. 14:9-11; 20:10, KJ: “If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: and the smoke of their torment [Greek, baseverlasting punishment [“lopping off,” Int; Greek, koʹla·sin]: but the righteous into life eternal.” (The Emphatic Diaglott reads “cutting-off” instead of “punishment.” A footnote states: “Kolasin . . . is derived from kolazoo, which signifies, 1. To cut off; as lopping off branches of trees, to prune. 2. To restrain, to repress. . . . 3. To chastise, to punish. To cut off an individual from life, or society, or even to restrain, is esteemed as punishment;—hence has arisen this third metaphorical use of the word.

2 Thess. 1:9, RS: “They shall suffer the punishment of eternal destruction* and exclusion from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might.” (*“Eternal ruin,” NAB, NE; “lost eternally,” JB; “condemn them to eternal punishment,” Kx; “eternal punishment in destruction,” Dy.)

Jude 7, KJ: “Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.” (The fire that destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah ceased burning thousands of years ago. But the effect of that fire has been lasting; the cities have not been rebuilt. God’s judgment, however, was against not merely those cities but also their wicked inhabitants. What happened to them is a warning example.

At Luke 17:29, Jesus says that they were “destroyed”; Jude 7 shows that the destruction was eternal.)

What is the meaning of the ‘eternal torment’ referred to in Revelation?

Rev. 14:9-11; 20:10, KJ: “If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, the same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: and the smoke of their torment [Greek, basa·ni·smouʹ] ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.” “And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.”

What is the ‘torment’ to which these texts refer?
It is noteworthy that at Revelation 11:10 (KJ) reference is made to ‘prophets that torment those dwelling on the earth.’ Such torment results from humiliating exposure by the messages that these prophets proclaim. At Revelation 14:9-11 (KJ) worshipers of the symbolic “beast and his image” are said to be “tormented with fire and brimstone.” This cannot refer to conscious torment after death because “the dead know not any thing.” (Eccl. 9:5, KJ)

Then, what causes them to experience such torment while they are still alive?
It is the proclamation by God’s servants that worshipers of the “beast and his image” will experience second death, which is represented by “the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone.” The smoke, associated with their fiery destruction, ascends forever because the destruction will be eternal and will never be forgotten.

When Revelation 20:10 says that the Devil is to experience ‘torment forever and ever’ in “the lake of fire and brimstone,” what does that mean?
Revelation 21:8 (KJ) says clearly that “the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone” means “the second death.” So the Devil’s being “tormented” there forever means that there will be no relief for him; he will be held under restraint forever, actually in eternal death. This use of the word “torment” (from the Greek baʹsa·nos) reminds one of its use at Matthew 18:34, where the same basic Greek word is applied to a ‘jailer.’—RS, AT, ED, NW.

What is the ‘fiery Gehenna’ to which Jesus referred?
Reference to Gehenna appears 12 times in the Christian Greek Scriptures. Five times it is directly associated with fire. Translators have rendered the Greek expression geʹen·nan tou py·rosʹ as “hell fire” (KJ, Dy), “fires of hell” (NE), “fiery pit” (AT), and “fires of Gehenna” (NAB).


Historical background: The Valley of Hinnom (Gehenna) was outside the walls of Jerusalem. For a time it was the site of idolatrous worship, including child sacrifice. In the first century Gehenna was being used as the incinerator for the filth of Jerusalem. Bodies of dead animals were thrown into the valley to be consumed in the fires, to which sulfur, or brimstone, was added to assist the burning.

Also bodies of executed criminals, who were considered undeserving of burial in a memorial tomb, were thrown into Gehenna.

Thus, at Matthew 5:29, 30, Jesus spoke of the casting of one’s “whole body” into Gehenna. If the body fell into the constantly burning fire it was consumed, but if it landed on a ledge of the deep ravine its putrefying flesh became infested with the ever-present worms, or maggots. (Mark 9:47, 48)

Living humans were not pitched into Gehenna; so it was not a place of conscious torment.

At Matthew 10:28, Jesus warned his hearers to “be in fear of him that can destroy both soul and body in Gehenna.”

What does it mean? Notice that there is no mention here of torment in the fires of Gehenna; rather, he says to ‘fear him that can destroy in Gehenna.’

By referring to the “soul” separately, Jesus here emphasizes that God can destroy all of a person’s life prospects; thus there is no hope of resurrection for him. So, the references to the ‘fiery Gehenna’ have the same meaning as ‘the lake of fire’ of Revelation 21:8, namely, destruction, “second death.”

What does the Bible say the penalty for sin is?

Rom. 6:23: “The wages sin pays is death.”

After one’s death, is he still subject to further punishment for his sins?
Rom. 6:7: “He who has died has been acquitted from his sin.”

Is eternal torment of the wicked compatible with God’s personality?
Jer. 7:31: “They [apostate Judeans] have built the high places of Topheth, which is in the valley of the son of Hinnom, in order to burn their sons and their daughters in the fire, a thing that I had not commanded and that had not come up into my heart.” (If it never came into God’s heart, surely he does not have and use such a thing on a larger scale.)

Illustration: What would you think of a parent who held his child’s hand over a fire to punish the child for wrongdoing? “God is love.” (1 John 4:cool

Would he do what no right-minded human parent would do? Certainly not!

By what Jesus said about the rich man and Lazarus, did Jesus teach torment of the wicked after death?
Is the account, at Luke 16:19-31, literal or merely an illustration of something else? The Jerusalem Bible, in a footnote, acknowledges that it is a “parable in story form without reference to any historical personage.” If taken literally, it would mean that those enjoying divine favor could all fit at the bosom of one man, Abraham; that the water on one’s fingertip would not be evaporated by the fire of Hades; that a mere drop of water would bring relief to one suffering there.

Does that sound reasonable to you?

If it were literal, it would conflict with other parts of the Bible. If the Bible were thus contradictory, would a lover of truth use it as a basis for his faith? But the Bible does not contradict itself.

What does the parable mean?
The “rich man” represented the Pharisees. (See verse 14.) The beggar Lazarus represented the common Jewish people who were despised by the Pharisees but who repented and became followers of Jesus. (See Luke 18:11; John 7:49; Matthew 21:31, 32.)

Their deaths were also symbolic, representing a change in circumstances. Thus, the formerly despised ones came into a position of divine favor, and the formerly seemingly favored ones were rejected by God, while being tormented by the judgment messages delivered by the ones whom they had despised.—Acts 5:33; 7:54.


What is the origin of the teaching of hellfire?
In ancient Babylonian and Assyrian beliefs the “nether world . . . is pictured as a place full of horrors, and is presided over by gods and demons of great strength and fierceness.” (The Religion of Babylonia and Assyria, Boston, 1898, Morris Jastrow, Jr., p. 581)

Early evidence of the fiery aspect of Christendom’s hell is found in the religion of ancient Egypt. (The Book of the Dead, New Hyde Park, N.Y., 1960, with introduction by E. A. Wallis Budge, pp. 144, 149, 151, 153, 161) Buddhism, which dates back to the 6th century B.C.E., in time came to feature both hot and cold hells. (The Encyclopedia Americana, 1977, Vol. 14, p. 68)

Depictions of hell portrayed in Catholic churches in Italy have been traced to Etruscan roots.—La civiltà etrusca (Milan, 1979), Werner Keller, p. 389.

But the real roots of this God-dishonoring doctrine go much deeper. The fiendish concepts associated with a hell of torment slander God and originate with the chief slanderer of God (the Devil, which name means “Slanderer”), the one whom Jesus Christ called “the father of the lie.”—John 8:44.

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Comments are welcome.

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Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by Monogamy: 5:58am On Mar 07, 2021
Where is the location of hell fire? On which planet or which galaxy?
Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by LordIsaac(m): 6:07am On Mar 07, 2021
Avoid the heresy of thinking there's no hell.

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Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by chatinent: 6:18am On Mar 07, 2021
Monogamy:
Where is the location of hell fire? On which planet or which galaxy?

The doctrine is false.


LordIsaac:
Avoid the heresy of thinking there's no hell.

You've always grown to believe such.

Read my post, and compare with the scriptures. You have a misconception about hell. Did you know the Bible said Jesus went to hell?

If it meant the regular view people have today, does it mean Jesus was tormented there?
Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by Juell(m): 6:26am On Mar 07, 2021
Luke 16:19-31
King James Version
19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

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Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by SanctifiedSista(f): 6:27am On Mar 07, 2021
Hell is as real as Covid. If u want to confirm ur suspicion, keep living in sin or commit suicide. Then u will know
Now are u sick,barren or even depressed. There is a way out. A special service by 11:45 am has been packaged for u at the living Faith church cananland OTA. Come and receive the body and blood of Jesus Christ that will dry up that infirmity... congratulations

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Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by Monogamy: 6:31am On Mar 07, 2021
SanctifiedSista:
Hell is as real as Covid. If u want to confirm ur suspicion, keep living in sin or commit suicide. Then u will know
Now are u sick,barren or even depressed. There is a way out. A special service by 11:45 am has been packaged for u at the living Faith church cananland OTA. Come and receive the body and blood of Jesus Christ that will dry up that infirmity... congratulations

If Hell is indeed real, do you think any of the Nigeria politicians would make it?

If Hell is indeed real, apart from the little babies, do you think 30% of Nigerian adults would make it?
Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by SanctifiedSista(f): 6:34am On Mar 07, 2021
Monogamy:


If Hell is indeed real, do you think any of the Nigeria politicians would make it?

If Hell is indeed real, apart from the little babies, do you think 30% of Nigerian adults would make it?
focus on urself and leave Evryone alone. They are all responsible for their lives. Work on urself , then strengthen them by taking one or.more and mentor them unto righteousness

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Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by hakeem4(m): 6:35am On Mar 07, 2021
LordIsaac:
Avoid the heresy of thinking there's no hell.
you and I know hell fire does not exists
Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by Monogamy: 6:36am On Mar 07, 2021
SanctifiedSista:
focus on urself and leave Evryone alone. They are all responsible for their lives. Work on urself , then strengthen them by taking one or.more and mentor them unto righteousness

If I should focus on myself alone, if other Christians also focus on themselves alone, how would Christians save lives for Christ? Who will preach the gospel of God?
Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by chatinent: 6:39am On Mar 07, 2021
SanctifiedSista:
Hell is as real as Covid. If u want to confirm ur suspicion, keep living in sin or commit suicide. Then u will know
Now are u sick,barren or even depressed. There is a way out. A special service by 11:45 am has been packaged for u at the living Faith church cananland OTA. Come and receive the body and blood of Jesus Christ that will dry up that infirmity... congratulations
Aunty, the Bible says the wages of sin is death not hell fire.

Why did Adam and Eve the first sinners not go to hell fire?


Do you know Jesus went to hell?

I'm sure you don't know because your version of hell isn't what the Bible teaches. Your version of hell teaches a fiery torment while the Bible says otherwise.

You are free to package your church members, yourself, and your pastor for a bible study if you want to know the truth.

You are welcome.
Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by chatinent: 6:43am On Mar 07, 2021
Juell:
Luke 16:19-31
King James Version
19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:

20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,

21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;

23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.


By the way, if taken literally, it means a tip of his finger in water can quench thirst. Right?


Read my post again and compare the scriptures cited.


You'd be amazed you have been believing false teachings all this while.

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Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by Karlovych: 6:47am On Mar 07, 2021
grin Delusional lots

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Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by SanctifiedSista(f): 6:47am On Mar 07, 2021
chatinent:

Aunty, the Bible says the wages of sin is death not hell fire.

Why did Adam and Eve the first sinners not go to hell fire?


Do you know Jesus went to hell?

I'm sure you don't know because your version of hell isn't what the Bible teaches. Your version of hell teaches a fiery torment while the Bible says otherwise.

You are free to package your church members, yourself, and your pastor for a bible study if you want to know the truth.

You are welcome.
u are their agent sent to deceive them that their sinful habits won't have repercussions. Unfortunately for u, that strategy won't work..inugo.. U have failed..I sincerely don't understand why u keep trying but hey, ur master is a bastard and a fool so he keeps sending u to do his work grin Failure

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Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by SanctifiedSista(f): 6:48am On Mar 07, 2021
chatinent:

Aunty, the Bible says the wages of sin is death not hell fire.

Why did Adam and Eve the first sinners not go to hell fire?


Do you know Jesus went to hell?

I'm sure you don't know because your version of hell isn't what the Bible teaches. Your version of hell teaches a fiery torment while the Bible says otherwise.

You are free to package your church members, yourself, and your pastor for a bible study if you want to know the truth.

You are welcome.
u are their agent sent to deceive them that their sinful habits won't have repercussions. Unfortunately for u, that strategy won't work..inugo.. U have failed..I sincerely don't understand why u keep trying but hey, ur master is a bastard and a fool so he keeps sending u to do his work grin Failure grin
Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by chatinent: 6:50am On Mar 07, 2021
SanctifiedSista:
u are their agent sent to deceive them that their sinful habits won't have repercussions. Unfortunately for u, that strategy won't work..inugo.. U have failed..I sincerely don't understand why u keep trying but hey, ur master is a bastard and a fool so he keeps sending u to do his work grin Failure grin

Okay.
Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by Juell(m): 6:52am On Mar 07, 2021
chatinent:



By the way, if taken literally, it means a tip of his finger in water can quench thirst. Right?


Read my post again and compare the scriptures cited.


You'd be amazed you have been believing false teachings all this while.
The point there is that hell exists and it's a place of torment, he only felt a drop of water on his tongue will help to an extent.
Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by chatinent: 6:54am On Mar 07, 2021
Juell:

The point there is that hell exists and it's a place of torment, he only felt a drop of water on his tongue will help to an extent.


That's not the point Jesus made.

Think before this: why did Adam and Eve, the first sinners, not go to hellfire?
Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by SanctifiedSista(f): 6:55am On Mar 07, 2021
Monogamy:


If I should focus on myself alone, if other Christians also focus on themselves alone, how would Christians save lives for Christ? Who will preach the gospel of God?
lol, dude GOD does not need u to do his work. Stop acting as if u are doing him a favor. Hear me well, anyone waking up by 4am, 5am to preach is doing it for their own benefit because GOD will reward them on earth and even in Heaven . GOD is more than capable of doing it himself, it is a privilege of he calls u to do it and u do it. Focus on urself, purge urself.. if HE calls u, jump at it

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Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by Monogamy: 6:57am On Mar 07, 2021
SanctifiedSista:
lol, dude GOD does not need u to do his work. Stop acting as if u are doing him a favor. Hear me well, anyone waking up by 4am, 5am to preach is doing it for their own benefit because GOD will reward them on earth and even in Heaven . GOD is more than capable of doing it himself, it is a privilege of he calls u to do it and u do it. Focus on urself, purge urself.. if HE calls u, jump at it

Then all churches should be closed as God did not send them message to do his work for him, according to @ bolded above
Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by obonujoker(m): 6:59am On Mar 07, 2021
The lake of fire is real.

Jesus spoke about it, and the apostles... So take it seriously.

You don't know more than the Lord Jesus.

Take it seriously. Take it seriously. Don't be deceived.

My prayer is that no child of God will go there

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Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by Juell(m): 7:00am On Mar 07, 2021
chatinent:



That's not the point Jesus made.

Think before this: why did Adam and Eve, the first sinners, not go to hellfire?
Hell fire exists and it's a place of torment, is that not what you're trying to dispute in this post? For Adam and Eve God forgave them of their sins

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Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by SanctifiedSista(f): 7:03am On Mar 07, 2021
Monogamy:


Then all churches should be closed as God did not send them message to do his work for him, according to @ bolded above
I now see why people say understanding is not cheap grin Chai...no wonder people have F9 in maths while others score A1 effortlessly
Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by Monogamy: 7:04am On Mar 07, 2021
SanctifiedSista:
I now see why people say understanding is not cheap grin Chai...no wonder people have F9 in maths while others score A1 effortlessly

Is that the current situation you found yourself?
Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by chatinent: 7:09am On Mar 07, 2021
Juell:

Hell fire exists and it's a place of torment, is that not what you're trying to dispute in this post? For Adam and Eve God forgave them of their sins

Not that, it's actually because hell fire doesn't exist.


Do you know the Bible says Jesus went to hell? Of course, the Bible doesn't support your notion.
Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by chatinent: 7:11am On Mar 07, 2021
Juell:

The point there is that hell exists and it's a place of torment, he only felt a drop of water on his tongue will help to an extent.


He didn't feel anything.


The story was a parable!

An illustration!
Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by Nobody: 7:12am On Mar 07, 2021
Juell:

Hell fire exists and it's a place of torment, is that not what you're trying to dispute in this post? For Adam and Eve God forgave them of their sins

Perfect response. The truth of the matter is don't bother yourself trying to convince a "no heller" that there is Hell. It profits nothing because such has already made up his or her mind. And the only set of people that supports the doctrine of "no hell" are those going there anyways. They don't take the Bible literal as if God is cracking jokes in His Book.

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Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by chatinent: 7:18am On Mar 07, 2021
iyambz:


Perfect response. The truth of the matter is don't bother yourself trying to convince a "no heller" that there is Hell. It profits nothing because such has already made up his or her mind. And the only set of people that supports the doctrine of "no hell" are those going there anyways. They don't take the Bible literal as if God is cracking jokes in His Book.
The truth of the matter is you believe what you don't know.

If people will live forever in the torment of hell, doesn't it contradict the Bible that people will die?


Or you don't know what death meant?


Funnily enough, the believers of hell fire commit the most crimes. Lol.


Such irony.

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Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by Juell(m): 7:37am On Mar 07, 2021
chatinent:


Not that, it's actually because hell fire doesn't exist.


Do you know the Bible says Jesus went to hell? Of course, the Bible doesn't support your notion.
Hell fire doesn't exists?

Matthew 18:9, KJV: "And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire."

If hell doesn't exist why did the Bible say it's better to have an eye than to enter hell fire whole? It means hell fire exists and one should do all to avoid going there

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Re: The Misconceptions About Hell Fire Thoroughly Examined And Explained by Juell(m): 7:40am On Mar 07, 2021
chatinent:



He didn't feel anything.


The story was a parable!

An illustration!

24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.

He didn't feel anything, right?

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