HellVictorinho:

False.

explain, apart from Messi Suarez and Griezmann, name the world class players they have had since Neymar left?

Topmaike007:
so is it the work of the defenders too to score goals..is it bad if cr7 score a goal yesterday?

When did it become the work of a striker to score in every game? He can only score in as many games as he can.

HellVictorinho:

False.
Juve's defence was never better.

so pique and masherano/umtiti were better than bonucci and chiellini??... Ronaldo fans ehn, una to talk like premature children

Antivirus92:
look at the quality of the teams u mentioned against barcelona, now compare them to ajax, lyon and ten-men fc porto,,,
just accept it, everything ronaldo achieved was thanks to real madrid!

Nonsense.
He scored over 400goals.
He had over 100assists.
He made Madrid the best.

SUPERPACK:
And what has stopped Madrid from winning UCL since he left? Did Madrid give him his first UCL title too?

Madrid removed the coach that did it for them. That had a huge effect on the team's performance after that. If Zidane had stayed on, there would have been continuity.

Starzo:

so pique and masherano/umtiti were better than bonucci and chiellini??... Ronaldo fans ehn, una to talk like premature children

How many goals did Barca concede in all competitions between 2005 and 2021?
Let's start from there.

HellVictorinho:

Don't mind Messi's worshippers.

you guys know no individual can carry a team on its back but you were all shouting Ronaldo could win the champions league all by himself.
And u put all the blame on Messi whenever Barca lost.
hypocrisy kee all penaldo fans

They should get rid of their coach. He is not managerial material. Another Frank Lampard like experiment gone wrong. The Agnelli family are jokers.

unmask:
Madrid removed the coach that did it for them. That had a huge effect on the team's performance after that. If Zidane had stayed on, there would have been continuity.

Nonsense
Zidane is still there.

Adakintroy:


You not getting the logic.


If the first the did not carry extra time. Meaning they played 90min.then the second leg should be 90 as well. Square up.

All side advantages should end with 90mim as with the first

I think I understand this.

He's saying that since both teams could not capitalize on the “away goal advantage” within the 90-minute+ time frame, then the rule should be scrapped if the tie gets to extra time since there was no extra time in the first leg?

It makes sense, but the basis of the rule is the home advantage factor. The home team has an advantage and is expected to perform better on their own turf, so they had to find a way to create a balance by instituting an away advantage such that a goal from the away team is equivalent to 2 goals. So the message here is “try as much as possible not to concede a goal or too many at home.”

Going by your logic, if the tie ends in a 90-minute deadlock, then the extra time should be played on a neutral ground to permit neutrality. Who wants to go through that kind of stress? Lol.

Starzo:

you guys know no individual can carry a team on its back but you were all shouting Ronaldo could win the champions league all by himself.
And u put all the blame on Messi whenever Barca lost.
hypocrisy kee all penaldo fans

Penamessi worshipper.
I never tipped Juve to win the UCL.
I don't think they will win the Serie A.
Ronaldo is not a defender.

unmask:
your analysis is very not correct...... anyways it boils down to what I always say. CR7 is a box 18 player.....which means he is dependent on others to perform..... If those don't perform he is just another Benteke. His ability to drop deep and run the show is next to zero.

This isn't the case for players like Messi, Maradona, Pele, Ronaldinho etc.....in pidgin, they run things, things don't run them. That is the hallmark of true greats

Do u think its ps4 ... u think Messi will still b running around at 36?? Maradona at 36 had retired, so as pele... watch Ibrahimovic, does he still dribble as he used to?? Most strikers fade off from 33 ... u call him benteke , but he is the second top scorer in Europe behind Lewandowski... juventus is not a high scoring team...they hvnt even scored 5 goals in a single game in many years now ...juventus will not score 4 goals in a game more than once or twice a season... take Ronaldo to a man city , bayern or city and he will hot 50 goals , even at his age... juventus have not had a creative midfield player since pirlo and pogba...they rely on Ronaldos goals , chiesas brilliance and cuadrados crosses....if sandros crosses were half as accurate as cuadrados , they will even hv better chances.... juventus has a tradition of letting in very few goals and scoring moderate goals... its always been a team that has a familiar score line 1.0 ,2.0, 0.0, 3.0 over the years but these days they concede alot but still maintain the same number they score... remove Ronaldo from that team and it will collapse totally

HellVictorinho:

How many goals did Barca concede in all competitions between 2005 and 2021?
Let's start from there.

When did u start watching football?
Italian defences have always been the best in the world for ages. Even the Italian national teams that won world cups were renowned for their mean defences.
una go dey talk like secondary school children... mtchwwww

SUPERPACK:
When did it become the work of a striker to score in every game? He can only score in as many games as he can.

and where the day say that the striker should not defend a freekick that pass in between his legs

Kingcalls:


Do u think its ps4 ... u think Messi will still b running around at 36?? Maradona at 36 had retired, so as pele... watch Ibrahimovic, does he still dribble as he used to?? Most strikers fade off from 33 ... u call him benteke , but he is the second top scorer in Europe behind Lewandowski... juventus is not a high scoring team...they hvnt even scored 5 goals in a single game in many years now ...juventus will not score 4 goals in a game more than once or twice a season... take Ronaldo to a man city , bayern or city and he will hot 50 goals , even at his age... juventus have not had a creative midfield player since pirlo and pogba...they rely on Ronaldos goals , chiesas brilliance and cuadrados crosses....if sandros crosses were half as accurate as cuadrados , they will even hv better chances.... juventus has a tradition of letting in very few goals and scoring moderate goals... its always been a team that has a familiar score line 1.0 ,2.0, 0.0, 3.0 over the years but these days they concede alot but still maintain the same number they score... remove Ronaldo from that team and it will collapse totally

a 38 year hold player(Pepe) hide ur ewu Gambia goat penaldo inside ladies purse yesterday and u still dey yarn dust here...shame nor dey catch una??

Abdulmumin412:

It is as soon as they sign Ronaldo their defense become crappy is Ronaldo defense scatter? Because the season before his arrival Jive defense did well.

A season b4, they dint even do well..that was when madrid hit them 3.0 at turn, their biggest loss at turn with Ronaldo scoring a brace , also when they lost 4.2 to Munich despite leading 2.0, that was in 2016, in 2017 they lost 4.1 in the final ... juventus used to b like atletico, u cudnt score them more than a goal...

HellVictorinho:

False.
They are average.
Did Ronaldo offend you?
Why do you speak with no objectivity?
So, Bentacur is a world-class player.
I am even better than him.
He is just lucky to be in Juve.

compare their midfield with that of other big teams and spot the difference....you can start with the teams that have knocked them out of the ucl

HellVictorinho:

He had an assist.
Must he score in every game.
Does Messi score in every game?

mind you I am a madridsta and not a messi fan,neither I am cr7 fan...

Pepe really tried yesterday kudos to Porto not easy to play around and Hour with one man down.

unmask:
explain, apart from Messi Suarez and Griezmann, name the world class players they have had since Neymar left?

Busquets,Alba,Terstegen,Mascherano,
Coutinho,Vidal,Umtiti,Pique,Paulinho.
Maybe Paulinho has left now.
Which player in Juve is as good as Suarez or Griezmann except Ronaldo?

SUPERPACK:
How did he make them worse as a team? Is he a defender too?

Some guys will tell you that before he joined, they made it to 2 finals and some semis but I don't have the energy to argue what's black and white.

Go to goal.com(football's most iconic news outlet) and read what's on their frontpage. in fact the article read...

betrayed by Ronaldo; Juventus dumped out by porto

Besides Ronaldo is old...wetin una been expect He's a 36 year old somewhat pass his prime. He made them worse no doubt about it.

unmask:
compare their midfield with that of other big teams and spot the difference....you can start with the teams that have knocked them out of the ucl

Porto's midfield is better.
Case closed.

I don't really understand what is the problem with Messi fans self.... over the years Messi has been performing poorly in champion league than CR7.... first he played against Roma with 2 goals lead but he was disgraced, again 3 goals lead against Liverpool and he was disgraced too, PSg is about dish him out again ooooo.... All almost all the teams that disgraced Messi, he had advantage over but he cannot do anything to help.... Let not forget that for past 6 season now Messi has nothing in the champion league but CR7 has 3 out of the 6..... let nobody give me any stat that doesn't add up ooooo. the last time I checked football is all about goals ooo if man city would have be the winner against man u...

Mosesvic11:
I don't really understand what is the problem with Messi fans self.... over the years Messi has been performing poorly in champion league than CR7.... first he played against Roma with 2 goals lead but he was disgraced, again 3 goals lead against Liverpool and he was disgraced too, PSg is about dish him out again ooooo.... All almost all the teams that disgraced Messi, he had advantage over but he cannot do anything to help.... Let not forget that for past 6 season now Messi has nothing in the champion league but CR7 has 3 out of the 6..... let nobody give me any stat that doesn't add up ooooo. the last time I checked football is all about goals ooo if man city would have be the winner against man u...

Ronaldo has the highest assists in the UCL.

Juventus problem isn't Ronaldo, but the problem is Ronaldo can't play with a striker in a team. He must outshine d striker either u like it or not.
When Juve started signing free transfer players , I knew back then that there will be problem in d future. Most of their midfielder are either loan or free transfer nd there is one that's an exchange or so, u can't win Champion league with that set of players.
Inter Milan knew what they wanted, nd they payed for such players.

Starzo:

a 38 year hold player(Pepe) hide ur ewu Gambia goat penaldo inside ladies purse yesterday and u still dey yarn dust here...shame nor dey catch una??

Pepe had a good game yes...but Ronaldo did his best, u should know defenders and keepers outlive strikers in football... I guess u messi fans haven't accepted the fact that messi has been a disaster in the CL for quite sometime now, I get... this will b the first time Ronaldo will fail to score in a decade while being eliminated in the CL , something we all know messi is used to

Starzo:

a 38 year hold player(Pepe) hide ur ewu Gambia goat penaldo inside ladies purse yesterday and u still dey yarn dust here...shame nor dey catch una??

He had an assist.
Must he score?
Penamessi worshipper.

Kingcalls:


Do u think its ps4 ... u think Messi will still b running around at 36?? Maradona at 36 had retired, so as pele... watch Ibrahimovic, does he still dribble as he used to?? Most strikers fade off from 33 ... u call him benteke , but he is the second top scorer in Europe behind Lewandowski... juventus is not a high scoring team...they hvnt even scored 5 goals in a single game in many years now ...juventus will not score 4 goals in a game more than once or twice a season... take Ronaldo to a man city , bayern or city and he will hot 50 goals , even at his age... juventus have not had a creative midfield player since pirlo and pogba...they rely on Ronaldos goals , chiesas brilliance and cuadrados crosses....if sandros crosses were half as accurate as cuadrados , they will even hv better chances.... juventus has a tradition of letting in very few goals and scoring moderate goals... its always been a team that has a familiar score line 1.0 ,2.0, 0.0, 3.0 over the years but these days they concede alot but still maintain the same number they score... remove Ronaldo from that team and it will collapse totally

Lori iro, Like they collapsed against Lazio on Saturday when he wasn't there abi? If you watched the match you'd see that they had better balance and precision in the absence of Ronaldo due to the extra midfielder and single striker focal point.

Tobechuckwu:
Juventus problem isn't Ronaldo, but the problem is Ronaldo can't play with a striker in a team. He must outshine d striker either u like it or not.
When Juve started signing free transfer players , I knew back then that there will be problem in d future. Most of their midfielder are either loan or free transfer nd there is one that's an exchange or so, u can't win Champion league with that set of players.
Inter Milan knew what they wanted, nd they payed for such players.

Ronaldo has played well with Rooney,Tevez,Benzema and Higuain.
Outshining doesn't mean he doesn't play well with them.

Abdulmumin412:

Juv signing Ronaldo was a Big mistake because since his arrival no improvement for the team at all. Juve was winning copa Italia back to back, reaching UCL semi final and final, winning serie A even in February. Those players u mention is it arrival of Ronaldo that chase them away? After all u people said Ronaldo alone is equal to 11players .

And without him they wudnt hv won the last 2 scudettos... he is still dragging them this season... the same juventus he kept on destroying when he was in Madrid...the only player that has scored buffon every single time he played against him ..I mean every single freaking time ... u dont service a Mercedes engine with any other oil but mobil1...

ThierryJay:


Lori iro, Like they collapsed against Lazio on Saturday when he wasn't there abi? If you watched the match you'd see that they had better balance and precision in the absence of Ronaldo due to the extra midfielder and single striker focal point.

One game can't fetch the league.

HellVictorinho:

False.
He had an assist.
Was he meant to defend??

False, he actually had two assists in the game.

He assisted Porto's match-winning free kick by opening yansh so that the ball can enter

ThierryJay:


False, he actually had two assists in the game.

He assisted Porto's match-winning free kick by opening yansh so that the ball can enter

He didn't know it will enter.
Messi makes errors too.