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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Ekealterego: 10:24pm On Mar 12, 2021
Igboid:


IPOB is useless to any Igbo cause.
They are more useless than Ohaneze Ndiigbo they like berating.

While Ohaneze Ndiigbo are blinded by money politics.
IPOB is disillusioned by their utopian and delusional multi ethnic Biafra with these minorities who are more interested in appropriating or at least instigating identity crisis in Igbo speaking territories that share border with them.

IPOB cannot counter them because IPOB is more interested in the eating their faeces and drinking their urine all in stupid bid to woo them into their useless multiethnic Biafra.

IPOB is a big disappointment.
You do not have to insult anything IPOB and MNK. Can you imagine what the one-man mopol have done or how much he shook the foundations of the country. Even those Igbos in the diaspora and outside of Alaigbo have taken more pride in the Igbo identity, and there is a strong Igbo consciousness than any other time only rivaled by the Ojukwu war era...
I personally will go for a monoethnic country because that would be the best; however, I will not mind one or two smaller alliances... Others are sceptical about our sea power if you but I believe that just like Austria and Czech we have access to the sea through Azumini. Biafra is in a similar situation with Austria and Czech; though they both seem landlocked, they have access to the sea via their river.

You can also contribute and educate those IPOB members wisely...because of MNK, many Igbo youths have seen the need to unite rather than waste precious time on inter-clan or inter-state bickering. ...
Do you know that because of MNK even the Ndoki and Oyigbo you are mentioning have had a stronger Igbo consciousness. I understand your anger and your assertion that the Igbos are bending over to be fuuucked in the assss by the minorities.
However, I disagree that it started with MNK or IPOB; it was there in Jonathan's era when many Igbo adopted Jonathan as a son, even at their own detriment.... Either way, it Is time to fight back... My cousin is still fuming right now as the expansion has been taken to Bende.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Igboid: 10:26pm On Mar 12, 2021
SlayerSupreme:
Some of these arguments majorly arise because of one reason. People are dumb in Nigeria. How can someone in his right senses even attempt to spin an Ijaw origin for Ndoki. O wrong naw. People are so stupid. The second reason this things happen is politics and greed. A peculiar reason this happens to us Igbo is that we were too soft with the useless tribes surround us. Hence, any vagabond can write anything today.

When our director is licking their anus, what do you expect?
Nature abhors vacuum. We left those border Igbo speaking communities defenseless without building cultural garrisons there by ensuring potent presence of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo there through community projects and interventions, the minorities who are looking to swell their own numbers are trying their own luck. Can you blame them? Blame lack of political and strategic thinking/leadership in Igboland.

Can Ohaneze Ndiigbo president name up to 3 communities in Ndokiland?
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by BKayy: 10:27pm On Mar 12, 2021
hedonister:

Why's Nsukka in the list? There's no such thing as Igbo denial in nsukka. Like it doesn't exist. As far as Ndoki is concerned, it will shock a lot of people that when you go to Ndoki, there's little or no denial there. It's some mischievous people that try to make it seem as if Ndoki people are not proud Igbos. I agree that Ika and Ukwuani are gone but we must be decisive in Enuani and people from that axis who are proud Igbo must stand up and be counted.
Oga sometimes we need to be truthful about some certain things.
Let me tell you the truth. We are more likely to lose Nsukka than Ndoki (Fact). Infact historically, Nsukka is almost gone, what is remaining is for the next generation to capitalize on that fake history to align completely with Igala. The only people to totally dismantle and crush the igala history invasion is Aguleri. They didn't give it a chance at all, though some animals in Igbo colours, especially from neighboring states are the only ones left aiding Igala in the Aguleri tussle.
But in the brighter side, "losing" or should I say merging the history of Nsukka with Igala will put us in the position of completely absorbing what is left of Igala.
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by BKayy: 10:31pm On Mar 12, 2021
Igboid:


When our director is licking their anus, what do you expect?
Nature abhors vacuum. We left those border Igbo speaking communities defenseless without building cultural garrisons there by ensuring potent presence of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo there through community projects and interventions, the minorities who are looking to swell their own numbers are trying their own luck. Can you blame them? Blame lack of political and strategic thinking/leadership in Igboland.

Can Ohaneze Ndiigbo president name up to 3 communities in Ndokiland?
No need crying over spilt milk. I've already prepared my mind incase of Ndoki exit. Some times my ultimate plans place Nsukka at the window because they are even more gone than IKA if you understand the influence of the history they gladly accepted. Unless divine intervention or Biafra/Igbo country is achieved on time. In the next generation it will be easier to convince someone that ikwerre is Igbo than Nsukka
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by BKayy: 10:37pm On Mar 12, 2021
Ekealterego:
Igboid... They are now carrying their expansion into the hinterland... They must have a very strong sponsor.

Look at Igbere, in far away Bende LGA.. hundreds of kilometer away from any territory, that is what Ijaws are claiming.... My cousin whose mother is from Igbere showed me this and was truly very furious. This is what the Ijaw people did on Igbere Wikipedia page, before you know it, the Ijaw youth wing will go visiting the king bearing gifts. CC: Bkayy
In reality my brother If you are not out for conquest or if you are not claiming more grounds, you stand a chance of losing yours. By now we should have totally assimilated the entire Ijaw. You know history is a two way thing and the one with larger population always win. With Ijaw pairing themselves with Igbo, they now stand a higher chance of risking total assimilation, something Bini is currently at risk of which is the reason why they are distancing themselves from Ika but it is now too late. Igodomigodo is now a clan of Igbo nation and there is nothing they can do about it.
Ijaw should keep on coming closer

Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Ekealterego: 10:40pm On Mar 12, 2021
Igboid:


When our director is licking their anus, what do you expect?
Nature abhors vacuum. We left those border Igbo speaking communities defenseless without building cultural garrisons there by ensuring potent presence of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo there through community projects and interventions, the minorities who are looking to swell their own numbers are trying their own luck. Can you blame them? Blame lack of political and strategic thinking/leadership in Igboland.

Can Ohaneze Ndiigbo president name up to 3 communities in Ndokiland?
Brother, forget Ohaneze. Do you agree that MNK has done more for the Igbo consciousness in the past 4 years than Ohanaeze have done since their existence? IPOB can only do so much; we all must play our part... I don't care attitude; after all, it is not my clan that caused this in the past... Do you know how many people burdened with an identity crisis that MNK cured? Neither you nor I knew there were Igbo communities in Benue until MNK started his mission. Many knew nothing about those groups in Cross-Rivers until recently.

I believe MNK is listening... You can see that the latest ESN movement into those communities in Benue to save them from the impact of the Fulani Herdsmen they have been complaining for years will create this type of awareness... Other groups thinking of intimidating them will think twice because they will understand that a strong force is behind them... Each group or territory will take a different approach.

On the Bini and Igala expansion, it Is also happening on the Yoruba side too. You could see they laid claim of a whole Lagos, that even the Oba of Lagos was dancing along until he was seriously cautioned...

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by BKayy: 10:44pm On Mar 12, 2021
Ekealterego:

Brother, forget Ohaneze. Do you agree that MNK has done more for the Igbo consciousness in the past 4 years than Ohanaeze have done since their existence? IPOB can only do so much; we all must play our part... I don't care attitude; after all, it is not my clan that caused this in the past... Do you know how many people burdened with an identity crisis that MNK cured? Neither you nor I knew there were Igbo communities in Benue until MNK started his mission. Many knew nothing about those groups in Cross-Rivers until recently.

I believe MNK is listening... You can see that the latest ESN movement into those communities in Benue to save them from the impact of the Fulani Herdsmen they have been complaining for years will create this type of awareness... Other groups thinking of intimidating them will think twice because they will understand that a strong force is behind them... Each group or territory will take a different approach.

On the Bini and Igala expansion, it Is also happening on the Yoruba side too. You could see they laid claim of a whole Lagos, that even the Oba of Lagos was dancing along until he was seriously cautioned...
Thank God you understand.
Nigerians, most especially southern Nigerians don't know that they are at war with each other. The war is not physical but intellectual. Only few noticed it.
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Igboid: 10:45pm On Mar 12, 2021
Ekealterego:

You do not have to insult anything IPOB and MNK. Can you imagine what the one-man mopol have done or how much he shook the foundations of the country. Even those Igbos in the diaspora and outside of Alaigbo have taken more pride in the Igbo identity, and there is a strong Igbo consciousness than any other time only rivaled by the Ojukwu war era...
I personally will go for a monoethnic country because that would be the best; however, I will not mind one or two smaller alliances... Others are sceptical about our sea power if you but I believe that just like Austria and Czech we have access to the sea through Azumini. Biafra is in a similar situation with Austria and Czech; though they both seem landlocked, they have access to the sea via their river.

You can also contribute and educate those IPOB members wisely...because of MNK, many Igbo youths have seen the need to unite rather than waste precious time on inter-clan or inter-state bickering. ...
Do you know that because of MNK even the Ndoki and Oyigbo you are mentioning have had a stronger Igbo consciousness. I understand your anger and your assertion that the Igbos are bending over to be fuuucked in the assss by the minorities.
However, I disagree that it started with MNK or IPOB; it was there in Jonathan's era when many Igbo adopted Jonathan as a son, even at their own detriment.... Either way, it Is time to fight back... My cousin is still fuming right now as the expansion has been taken to Bende.


Ndoki is so vital to future Igbo country that any serious Igbo must be deeply concerned by any plans to introduce identity crisis there.

You spoke of Czech republic and their access to the ocean through river Danube. Ndiigbo has that option through Ndoki. IMO river opens into the Atlantic through Ndoki. IMO river has its source and tributaries all from waters in Igboland which means we fully control the upstream and volume of the river.
This is unlike River Niger which is going to shrink in volume once Niger Republic are done with their Dam project. And worst still, too far from the sea coast and so will cost a lot to dredge unlike the IMO River at Ndoki which is just few Miles away from the Atlantic.

The Ijaws know this. That's why they are battling hard to at least introduce Identity crises and Igbophobia in those areas and make things difficult for us in the future.

I'm angry with MNK and IPOB because they like to curse Zik for his role in promotion of one Nigeria project while leaving Igboland vulnerable to other two big ethnic groups, while IPOB are doing same thing to Igboland with their useless multiethnic Biafra with these aggressive expansionist minorities.
And like Zik left Ndiigbo disadvantaged against the other two, so will IPOB with this senseless multi ethnic Biafra leave future Igbo generation shortchanged.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Ekealterego: 10:47pm On Mar 12, 2021
BKayy:

In reality my brother If you are not out for conquest or if you are not claiming more grounds, you stand a chance of losing yours. By now we should have totally assimilated the entire Ijaw. You know history is a two way thing and the one with larger population always win. With Ijaw pairing themselves with Igbo, they now stand a higher chance of risking total assimilation, something Bini is currently at risk of which is the reason why they are distancing themselves from Ika but it is now too late. Igodomigodo is now a clan of Igbo nation and there is nothing they can do about it.
Ijaw should keep on coming closer
I completely agree with you. 100%... That is what I was trying to tell the OP... MNK made me look deeper into Igbo history and their neighbours from the 1677s... At least the written down accounts.
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by SlayerSupreme: 10:53pm On Mar 12, 2021
BKayy:

Oga sometimes we need to be truthful about some certain things.
Let me tell you the truth. We are more likely to lose Nsukka than Ndoki (Fact). Infact historically, Nsukka is almost gone, what is remaining is for the next generation to capitalize on that fake history to align completely with Igala. The only people to totally dismantle and crush the igala history invasion is Aguleri. They didn't give it a chance at all, though some animals in Igbo colours, especially from neighboring states are the only ones left aiding Igala in the Aguleri tussle.
But in the brighter side, "losing" or should I say merging the history of Nsukka with Igala will put us in the position of completely absorbing what is left of Igala.



Let me tell you and Igboid something. Do you know that when you over bloat the issue bigger than it is you are helping this marauders. Do you know when you make unfounded claims like this one here you are helping to spread lies. Nsukka, like Hedonister has said, is fully on the Igbo train. You'd be surprised how Igbotic Nsukka peeps can be. There is no such thing thriving there AT ALL. If some idiots are visiting monarchs in the area towards a dubious end you can bring it to our attention without stating outright lies or overdramatizing the issue.

With what is on ground we can't even lose Ndoki even if we relaxed. But I support a more proactive approach to this issues than a reactive or docile one. I never underestimate the enemy.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by BKayy: 10:59pm On Mar 12, 2021
Ekealterego:

I completely agree with you. 100%... That is what I was trying to tell the OP... MNK made me look deeper into Igbo history and their neighbours from the 1677s... At least the written down accounts.
Though MNK have some controversial statements on Igbo history I believe that he won't consciously play with the Identity.
Well, I don't believe the fight is for one person alone. Everybody must contribute their own. Histories are mere stories and anybody can tweak to his own gain. Do you know how many times I've adjusted Igala history.
The only history worth taking note of is the contemporary. How the people behave at the moment. Their language at the moment and culture. Before I used to despise assimilating others but after enlightenment I found out that one has no option especially when the prey is dangling himself in your face.
Ijaw just made a very big mistake with Ndoki. We will capitalize on that and link them perfectly. Just like Bini mystery has been solved.
A day before yesterday the mystery of Igbo being the kings in ancient Bini was awakened with Eze Chima being the link. Binis can't escape this because for 53 years now they were the champions of Onitsha coming from Bini now the curiosity have awakened. Which are
How did the prince learn Igbo Language?
Why didn't he name any of the towns he founded in Bini?
Why did all the Igbo towns give him safe passage?
All these questions are gearing towards one answer which is, The father of Eze Chima must be an Igbo man and since he is a prince like the Bini people nearly accepted (I don't know why their Oba never gave much statement on the matter all these years) then his father was the king of Bini. An Igbo king of Benin Kingdom

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by SlayerSupreme: 11:01pm On Mar 12, 2021
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BKayy:

No need crying over spilt milk. I've already prepared my mind incase of Ndoki exit. Some times my ultimate plans place Nsukka at the window because they are even more gone than IKA if you understand the influence of the history they gladly accepted. Unless divine intervention or Biafra/Igbo country is achieved on time. In the next generation it will be easier to convince someone that ikwerre is Igbo than Nsukka
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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by 24SEVEN: 11:03pm On Mar 12, 2021
Igboid, see the kind of epistle you have written ontop another person state. You are either from Anambra or Somewhere north of Rivers state, but Rivers state matter is always your problem.

Dont stresss yourself, no ijaw can take an inch of Ndoki. I want you to stress yourself less so you can live longer.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by ChangedMan1999(m): 11:03pm On Mar 12, 2021
Op, 100percent solid.
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by horsepower102: 11:04pm On Mar 12, 2021
Igbos are like the Germans. We are much bigger than what is shown on the fake Nigeria map. But just like the Germans, we should prepare ourselves for the possibility of losing some of our clans permanently to identity crisis.

What this current generation should actively pursue is to consolidate those clans that are not poisoned yet.

But with each Generation, the poison of identity crisis might continue to spread if we do put a stop to it.

History revisionist but from minority and majority groups have been laying the ground work for it over they years and unfortunately the ignorants amongst us are taking the bait..

One day we will wake up and Onitsha or Obiigbo will no longer be Igbo.
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by BKayy: 11:06pm On Mar 12, 2021
SlayerSupreme:




Let me tell you and Igboid something. Do you know that when you over bloat the issue bigger than it is you are helping this marauders. Do you know when you make unfounded claims like this one here you are helping to spread lies. Nsukka, like Hedonister has said, is fully on the Igbo train. You'd be surprised how Igbotic Nsukka peeps can be. There is no such thing thriving there AT ALL. If some idiots are visiting monarchs in the area towards a dubious end you can bring it to our attention without stating outright lies or overdramatizing the issue.

With what is on ground we can't even lose Ndoki even if we relaxed. But I support a more proactive approach to this issues than a reactive or docile one. I never underestimate the enemy.




You are not seeing the bigger picture. Read in between the lines. My comments are not as literal as they look.
Let me clarify it a little for you.
We should allow the Ijaws make the move. Let them swim into the Igbo mystery and allow nature guide them through the currents until they are lost in it.
Have you for once thought why Yorubas never attempt to claim any Igbo clan? Even Olukumi, they don't talk much about it. They see it as a trap.
There are many/uncountable loopholes in Yoruba Nation that bend them towards Igbo.
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by BKayy: 11:07pm On Mar 12, 2021
24SEVEN:
Igboid, see the kind of epistle you have written ontop another person state. You are either from Anambra or Somewhere north of Rivers state, but Rivers state matter is always your problem.

Dont stresss yourself, no ijaw can take an inch of Ndoki. I want you to stress yourself less so you can live longer.
DO you have any issues with Anambra if I may ask?
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Igboid: 11:08pm On Mar 12, 2021
Ekealterego:

Brother, forget Ohaneze. Do you agree that MNK has done more for the Igbo consciousness in the past 4 years than Ohanaeze have done since their existence? IPOB can only do so much; we all must play our part... I don't care attitude; after all, it is not my clan that caused this in the past... Do you know how many people burdened with an identity crisis that MNK cured? Neither you nor I knew there were Igbo communities in Benue until MNK started his mission. Many knew nothing about those groups in Cross-Rivers until recently.

I believe MNK is listening... You can see that the latest ESN movement into those communities in Benue to save them from the impact of the Fulani Herdsmen they have been complaining for years will create this type of awareness... Other groups thinking of intimidating them will think twice because they will understand that a strong force is behind them... Each group or territory will take a different approach.

On the Bini and Igala expansion, it Is also happening on the Yoruba side too. You could see they laid claim of a whole Lagos, that even the Oba of Lagos was dancing along until he was seriously cautioned...

The Bini are not expanding into Yoruba territories. They know the Yorubas have better organized leadership and intelligentsia than Ndiigbo do. Their main target is Western Igbo because they sense leadership vacuum and negligence in Igboland.

The Yorubas also had the advantage of centralized origin story of Odua to fall back on . We don't have such.

Many of us Igbo nationalists knew of Benue Igbos, Isobos(Cross River) Igbos and even few villages in Kogi before IPOB was born. So I don't see how IPOB can take credit for that. What IPOB and MNK has tried to do was suppress Igbo ethnic consciousness why claiming that all ethnic groups in Eastern region are imaginary ethnic group he called "Biafra" that existed before Nigeria.
MNK once even said that he is not Igbo, that he is Biafran. Personally he is not different from Zik who was engrossed with Nigeria identity while Awo and Saraduna worked hard to strengthen Yoruba and Northern identity. For while MNK and IPOB are busy brainwashing Igbo youths to accept a non existing brotherhood with these minorities, the minorities leaders are working aggressively to strengthen their own tribal identities by expanding into Igbo territories while making it obvious that they would not accept the Biafran identity IPOB and MNN are brainwashing Igbo youths with.

I see no difference between MNK and Zik and IPOB and NCNC.
While AG was strictly a Yoruba party and embraced it happily. NCNC was interested in wearing the toga of pan Nigerian even when the North and West saw them as Igbo party.
IPOB is the new NCNC, MNK is the new Zik, Minorities are our new Yoruba/North.

Funny how history repeats itself if not unchecked.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by SlayerSupreme: 11:08pm On Mar 12, 2021
BKayy:

You are not seeing the bigger picture. Read in between the lines. My comments are not as literal as they look.
Let me clarify it a little for you.
We should allow the Ijaws make the move. Let them swim into the Igbo mystery and allow nature guide them through the currents until they are lost in it.
Have you for once thought why Yorubas never attempt to claim any Igbo clan? Even Olukumi, they don't talk much about it. They see it as a trap.
There are many/uncountable loopholes in Yoruba Nation that bend them towards Igbo.


Okay.
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Ekealterego: 11:10pm On Mar 12, 2021
Igboid:



Ndoki is so vital to future Igbo country that any serious Igbo must be deeply concerned by any plans to introduce identity crisis there.

You spoke of Czech republic and their access to the ocean through river Danube. Ndiigbo has that option through Ndoki. IMO river opens into the Atlantic through Ndoki. IMO river has its source and tributaries all from waters in Igboland which means we fully control the upstream and volume of the river.
This is unlike River Niger which is going to shrink in volume once Niger Republic are done with their Dam project. And worst still, too far from the sea coast and so will cost a lot to dredge unlike the IMO River at Ndoki which is just few Miles away from the Atlantic.

The Ijaws know this. That's why they are battling hard to at least introduce Identity crises and Igbophobia in those areas and make things difficult for us in the future.

I'm angry with MNK and IPOB because they like to curse Zik for his role in promotion of one Nigeria project while leaving Igboland vulnerable to other two big ethnic groups, while IPOB are doing same thing to Igboland with their useless multiethnic Biafra with these aggressive expansionist minorities.
And like Zik left Ndiigbo disadvantaged against the other two, so will IPOB with this senseless multi ethnic Biafra leave future Igbo generation.
I agree with you, but I guess it was a battle he thought would be easy at first, I think he underestimated the Igbophobia planted in the hearts of the minorities, even within the Igbo people that was left unchecked for decades.

However, I also see it as strategic, before he came on board, we already lost many grounds, and we have gained it back rather than lost.. MNK's fight accidentally or knowingly revealed the sneaky encroachment.. Normally, no one cared to look at these issues until now. So, look at all the positives...
We are now having intellectual discussions to know the importance of these people... knowing who we need and who we can afford to lose...

When you look at the map, Ndoki in Abia state is further down into the Atlantic or on the same latitude with Ikwerre Occupied Portharcourt (their parts are not even strategic in terms of sea advantage.. Before now, people from the main SE use to think Ikwerre had access to the sea and are at an advantage over Abia state, however, now, people are now making their research to see that Ndoki in Abia state is even more vital than Ikwerre. I am telling you, when you start to show these other guys who think they are dispensible to the Igbos how versatile we are and how useless they are and put them in their place, they will be the ones coming to beg for association.

Bless God, Ndoki is in Abia state, so it is time to be super hard and put our feet down.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Igboid: 11:10pm On Mar 12, 2021
24SEVEN:
Igboid, see the kind of epistle you have written ontop another person state. You are either from Anambra or Somewhere north of Rivers state, but Rivers state matter is always your problem.

Dont stresss yourself, no ijaw can take an inch of Ndoki. I want you to stress yourself less so you can live longer.

4/5 of Ndokiland is in Abia state.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by YungMillionaire: 11:10pm On Mar 12, 2021
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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by BKayy: 11:11pm On Mar 12, 2021
horsepower102:
Igbos are like the Germans. We are much bigger than what is shown on the fake Nigeria map. But just like the Germans, we should prepare ourselves for the possibility of losing some of our clans permanently to identity crisis.

What this current generation should actively pursue is to consolidate those clans that are not poisoned yet.

But with each Generation, the poison of identity crisis might continue to spread if we do put a stop to it.

History revisionist but from minority and majority groups have been laying the ground work for it over they years and unfortunately the ignorants amongst us are taking the bait..

One day we will wake up and Onitsha or Obiigbo will no longer be Igbo.
What killed Germany was their conservative nature. They never tried to assimilate others into the German sub identity because of the fear of becoming like the Romans they fought off and despise. A mega ethnicity without sub ethnicity stands the risk of losing parts of itself but you have a sub you'll rather lose the appendage. Ndigbo must learn from this and Ijaw is becoming ripe for the taking
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Easternmind(m): 11:11pm On Mar 12, 2021
Did I just see Nsukka and Enugu Ezike up there?That alone has exposed their lies of the bini and ijaws.
How can one even say that ndoki came from Ijaw? How dumb is that,they don't even have same culture,language, thinking pattern, behaviour and attire.
The so called Bonny land has it that igbos are the original dwellers there,and this is recorded history about centuries ago,not newly concocted lies from Ijaw people.
Honestly we igbos need to look into things that matter most now,more than ever.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by horsepower102: 11:13pm On Mar 12, 2021
Igboid:


The Bini are not expanding into Yoruba territories. They know the Yorubas have better organized leadership and intelligentsia than Ndiigbo do. Their main target is Western Igbo because they sense leadership vacuum and negligence in Igboland.

The Yorubas also had the advantage of centralized origin story of Odua to fall back on . We don't have such.

Many of us Igbo nationalists knew of Benue Igbos, Isobos(Cross River) Igbos and even few villages in Kogi before IPOB was born. So I don't see how IPOB can take credit for that. What IPOB and MNK has tried to do was suppress Igbo ethnic consciousness why claiming that all ethnic groups in Eastern region are imaginary ethnic group he called "Biafra" that existed before Nigeria.
MNK once even said that he is not Igbo, that he is Biafran. Personally he is not different from Zik who was engrossed with Nigeria identity while Awo and Saraduna worked hard to strengthen Yoruba and Northern identity. For while MNK and IPOB are busy brainwashing Igbo youths to accept a non existing brotherhood with these minorities, the minorities leaders are working aggressively to strengthen their own tribal identities by expanding into Igbo territories while making it obvious that they would not accept the Biafran identity IPOB and MNN are brainwashing Igbo youths with.

I see no difference between MNK and Zik and IPOB and NCNC.
While AG was strictly a Yoruba party and embraced it happily. NCNC was interested in wearing the toga of pan Nigerian even when the North and West saw them as Igbo party.
IPOB is the new NCNC, MNK is the new Zik, Minorities are our new Yoruba/North.

Funny how history repeats itself if not unchecked.

Sometimes I wish Nnamdi kanu is reading your comments. Its sad that he continues to be stubborn to listen to wisdom. His followers are like cult members who refuse to cautiion him.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by melodyogonna(m): 11:15pm On Mar 12, 2021
Obalatule:
This is the problem with you ipob members, any divergent view is treated with insults.....next you label him Sabo, Una go fail with this hand i assure you
It seems you have short attention span. Go up a little and read what he wrote about IPOB. And, I'm not sure you understand what insults mean.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by SlayerSupreme: 11:16pm On Mar 12, 2021
Easternmind:
Did I just see Nsukka and Enugu Ezike up there?That alone has exposed their lies of the bini and ijaws.
How can one even say that ndoki came from Ijaw? How dumb is that,they don't even have same culture,language, thinking pattern, behaviour and attire.
The so called Bonny land has it that igbos are the original dwellers there,and this is recorded history about centuries ago,not newly concocted lies from Ijaw people.
Honestly we igbos need to look into things that matter most now,more than ever.


I don't think Bonny is Igboland. It seems to have first been settled by Ijaw elements. But I can't say for sure anyway.
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by BKayy: 11:20pm On Mar 12, 2021
Easternmind:
Did I just see Nsukka and Enugu Ezike up there?That alone has exposed their lies of the bini and ijaws.
How can one even say that ndoki came from Ijaw? How dumb is that,they don't even have same culture,language, thinking pattern, behaviour and attire.
The so called Bonny land has it that igbos are the original dwellers there,and this is recorded history about centuries ago,not newly concocted lies from Ijaw people.
Honestly we igbos need to look into things that matter most now,more than ever.
Most times we give these lies a fertile ground. I already recognized Ijaw, not as threat but as a prey.
We are already entangled with Bini forever and they can't escape it/nature.
Ijaws are ripe. We all know the Bonny history, forget all these noise we make here. It's just a survey, they read your thoughts as well as you read theirs. Don't underestimate the people you see here. Most are scouts not just after ego.
Now we work on Ijaw. We must maximize every thing we can scavenge from the link they gave us (Ndoki).
If you look at it critically, Ijaws are indirectly (we will make it direct) accepting the fact that Bonny belongs to Ndoki. Now we will capitalize on that link to draw them in like we did to reclaim our brothers the Bini people

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Igboid: 11:20pm On Mar 12, 2021
1960

Zik: Let's leave our tribal identities and become Nigerians

Awolowo: Let's embrace our tribal identities first and foremost

Saraduna: North first, Nigeria second.


2021

MNK: Let's leave our tribal identities and become Biafrans

Minorities: We are more interested in our tribal identities.



We know how the Zik folly ended. IPOB is the new NCNC. Igbo controlled body that fought so hard to present it self as pan Nigerian, while AG and NPC fully embraced they are regional/tribal parties with no apology and went on to aggressively work on their regional agenda while Ndiigbo had no one working for us, because Zik was more Nigerian than other Nigerians.

Let's think deep about these things.

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by horsepower102: 11:22pm On Mar 12, 2021
One of the fastest way to help cure Identity crisis is to have a razor focus on developing Igboland. If Igboland is modernizing and developing rapidly, all these identity crisis will be over very fast. Those who were deceived with revisionist histories will be falling over to claim their Igbo identity.
Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by Nobody: 11:26pm On Mar 12, 2021
horsepower102:
One of the fastest way to help cure Identity crisis is the have a razor focus on developing Igboland. If Igboland is modernizing and developing rapidly, all these identity crisis will be over very fast. Those who were deceived with revisionist histories will be falling over to claim their Igbo identity.
second this. if we get around making the SE an economic power house, even the ijaws (being propped up as irritants by the feds) will soon discover their igboliness.
The signs are already there,but we need to invest more at home

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Re: Why Alagoa And Ijaws Tried To Ijawanize Ndoki Origin by BKayy: 11:26pm On Mar 12, 2021
horsepower102:
One of the fastest way to help cure Identity crisis is the have a razor focus on developing Igboland. If Igboland is modernizing and developing rapidly, all these identity crisis will be over very fast. Those who were deceived with revisionist histories will be falling over to claim their Igbo identity.
That is why we need a Beacon (A state or city that signifies progress). Onitsha is doing wonders but have is not up to her potential in dragging the Binis in.
We need to maintain port Harcourt and revive Aba. Port Harcourt is already doing her work perfectly what remains is a follow up Beacon that will guide the Ijaws through. Something like Aba and more importantly something in that Ndoki clan

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