SuperBold:


Aro Confederacy that couldn't defeat Efiks? the British gave u guns which gave u edge over civilization more advanced than you. Aro were only known for their slave raid nothing else

AlexBells:

We had our class of civilisation, we were Republican, were there ever an empire in Nigeria, what you had is kingdoms, so you would call the Benin kingdom an empire, did it have an emperor or empress, if you call Britain an empire, then Aro confedracy was an empire, becuase there was no official empire in The west African region today known as Nigeria

MajorLeaguePlay:


No, give examples of incidents that happened in, say, like the 3rd Century or 11th Century. Everything you’re giving is when the white man exposed you to civilization.

chigomiced:


no empire in Nigeria grew as wide as the aro Confederacy....

go and read it up ...

from Cameroon to equatorial Guinea


from just selling palm oil

chigomiced:


but him defeat Ibibio nah

give am cudus

thebosstrevor1:
We all know about the Hausa empire, the fulani empire, the benin empire, the Old oyo empire and their heros, we all hear about the history of some of their heros, we hear about usman dan fudio, Afonja, queen aminat, Sango and how they went to battle against other empires and defeated them.

But something amazes me, i have never heard about any igbo empire, never heard about any igbo hero, never heard about any igbo wars. other empires organized wars against the colonists, they resisted and fought until they were subdued, never read any resistance of the colonists by the igbos.

The only war, we know the igbos fought was the civil war in which they were defeated by NIGERIA.

The only igbo hero i know was a fictional one in Chinue Achebe book, Okonkwo in things fall apart.

This is something to ponder about, please if you know any igbo empire or any igbo hero, mention them, i am curious.

chigomiced:



an extensive group of states or countries ruled over by a single monarch, an oligarchy, or a sovereign state.

"the Roman Empire"

synonyms: kingdom, realm, domain, territory, province, commonwealth, federation, (confederation ie Aro Confederacy ) power, world power, superpower, jurisdiction, res publica

Redcrafton:


..but you are backwards in today's ranking than those with no empires?

See the missionaries description of the industries Igbos. "niggers"...and who they claim are more civilized...

chigomiced:


synonym

/ˈsɪnənɪm/

noun

a word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language, for example shut is a synonym of close.

"“the East” was a synonym for the Soviet empire

Ibrahimmrfish:

Are you sure you actually know the size of Sokoto caliphate, Borneo empire and jukun empire?

thebosstrevor1:


Bla bla bla.

thebosstrevor1:


There was no democracy in old igbo land.

There were different unorganised igbo clans scattered in many places. That is why monarchy system couldn't take place.

Every organised civilization had a monarchy, even the Egyptians had a monarchy, the greek had one etc.

In the igbo culture, The head of the house or the clan was the sole ruler( dictator)

No election was ever organised in old igbo land even till today, no election is held when selecting a clan leader, it is mostly by senority.

SuperBold:

Cudus ko qudus ni

chigomiced:


the koko be say Igbo's get empire and fought wars

let this ur ignorance rest

chigomiced:


empire's that are currently producing bandits

chigomiced:


empire's that are currently producing bandits

thebosstrevor1:
We all know about the Hausa empire, the fulani empire, the benin empire, the Old oyo empire and their heros, we all hear about the history of some of their heros, we hear about usman dan fudio, Afonja, queen aminat, Sango and how they went to battle against other empires and defeated them.

But something amazes me, i have never heard about any igbo empire, never heard about any igbo hero, never heard about any igbo wars. other empires organized wars against the colonists, they resisted and fought until they were subdued, never read any resistance of the colonists by the igbos.

The only war, we know the igbos fought was the civil war in which they were defeated by NIGERIA.

The only igbo hero i know was a fictional one in Chinue Achebe book, Okonkwo in things fall apart.

This is something to ponder about, please if you know any igbo empire or any igbo hero, mention them, i am curious.

Faber:

Mr. I have been laughing since I saw your post. Reason because you are not a student of history. If your are a historian you wouldn't have made this post in the first place.

First and foremost there is nothing like Hausa Empire or Fulani Empire anywhere in the World. The first person that came up with Hausa Empire and Fulani Empire is you and you alone. Also there's nothing like Igbo Empire.

Second the only Empires known in the history of the Sahel and lower Niger are the following: The Kanem-Bornu Empire, The Benin Empire and the Oyo Empire. Oyo Empire and Benin Empires were semi-empires and were dubbed the forest Kingdoms. The only Empire formed by Fulani was the Tekruur Empire in far away Senegal. No Fulani Empire existed in Nigeria. The Fulani Founded the Sokoto Caliphate in 1804 after a jihad that subdued the Hausa Kingdoms. The Caliphate was dismantled by the British in 1903. The Ancient and most organized Empire in the North is the Kanem-Bornu Empire and it was not a Hausa Empire, it was formed by the Bornu people of the lake Chad Basin. They are now in Cameroun, Lake Chad Basin and North East Nigeria. They were ruled by the Mai(s) I can recall Mai Dunama I and Mai Dunama II. Then, in the Lower Niger were the Kingdoms of Benin and Kingdom of Biafar(Biafar) Op what we have today as Bight of Bonny was actually Bight of Biafra in the 17th Century map of Africa.

Later on the Hausa Knigdoms emerged with the most notable Monarch, Queen Amina. They were subdued by the Jihadists from Senegal who established the Sokoto Caliphate. Kaduna still retains the head of Political Arewa land, because of Zaria, While Sokoto is the Islamic Religious head of Arewa land. The Sultan presides from Sokoto, while the political head was in Kaduna...where Ahmadu Bello presided as Premier.

The lower Niger was made up of the Kingdom of Biafar, and was made up of other tiny kingdoms, The Aro Kingdom, the Igbo-Ukwu Kingdom, the Opobo kingdom etc. Now op you said you don't know any Kingdom of Igbo extraction? the Kingdom of Opobo was it in Eastern Kenya? or Eastern Brazil? You don't know any Hero of Igbo extraction who resisted the British. Is king Jaja of Opobo from Arewa land? Before you say Opobo is not Igbo, and not in Eastern Nigeria. I have been to Opobo, they are partly in Abia State and Rivers State. They are minority in Rivers. Every toddler in Abia State around Ogbor Hill, will even take you to Opobo jucntion, you will take a bike to Ndoki land and Opobo. Opobo people told me that they ought to be in Abia State. That's why Rivers State neglected them. Governor Orji Uzor Kalu fought to bring them back together with Obigbo but all his attempts were futile. The military who created the states caused a lot of confusion and removed many communities from their ancestral home lands. Jaja of Opobo was a slave boy from Nkwerre in present day Imo State.

Let me just wait till your post makes front page. Then I will counter your thread and dismantle your yeye claims. I have not even entered my library to make some research and bombard your nonsense with missiles from both ancient and modern history of the African continent, especially the Sahel and sub Sahara regions.

MajorLeaguePlay:
There is nothing like “Southerners”. You’re an Eastener, and if you’re ibo you’re a “Southeasterner”.

thebosstrevor1:


This page isn't going to reach front page, let's forget about it.

Stop stealing people history and then turn it into igbo history. Jaja of opobo was never a igbo man, never had a igbo name and is not from nkwerre, imo or abia state.

I believe you dont know about the sokoto empire or caliphate which controlled kingdoms to as far as illorin.

thebosstrevor1:


This page isn't going to reach front page, let's forget about it.

Stop stealing people history and then turn it into igbo history. Jaja of opobo was never a igbo man, never had a igbo name and is not from nkwerre, imo or abia state.

I believe you dont know about the sokoto empire or caliphate which controlled kingdoms to as far as illorin.

Faber:

I am not here to argue with you. I will soon begin demolishing your yeye, daft misinformation.
I have already created a counter thread. Am going to dismantle your claims there. Meet me there. Ciao!

Tobrasky:


The saddest part of your ignorance and stupidity is that somewhere in the village, your poor unfortunate parents who suffered to send you to school to at least acquire some basic education will be thinking their sweat wasn't in vain... even my 10 year old brother knows Jaja was an Igbo born in the old Orlu division precisely where he was captured and sold as a slave and his name was consequently changed. I mean we all learned this simply facts of history back in primary school when we took social studies! seriously are you this incorrigibly daft or are you just trolling for the want of it?

PROUDIGBO:


Your post reeks of ignorance, and shows you don’t know the meaning of the word TRIBE!

thebosstrevor1:


Neither will i argue with you.

You want to dismantle claims with pack of invented lies cooked up by you.

I am not going to meet you in any thread, i don't want to be involved with FAKENEWS.

Faber:


Are you not the one that claimed Okonjo-Iweala will not win the WTO Chair. You came with your janjaweedism and proved how she may not win. Today where is she and where are you. You are an avid hater of Igbos and an inferior being. Your inferiority is obvious.

This was ur topic on Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala
https://www.nairaland.com/6212230/okonjo-iweala-may-not-win-wto

Tobrasky:
The true making of greatness is decided when people can fight against oppression and yet practice a civilized system of republicanism without sheepishly following some barbaric "emperor" around. There's a reason why the Igbos are celebrated today globally (especially in the USA, Carribeans, and parts of South America and Europe) were trans-athlantic slavery were most prominent. The most popular slave rebellions and leaders who led uprisings to usurp the slave ships, plantations etc and wipe out the white slave masters were mostly Igbo or were of Igbo origin... the most successful slave rebellion in black history ( Haiti revolution) were instigated and led by many Igbo self-liberated slaves. The Bussa rebellion in today's Barbados which is the largest uprising in Barbadian history was led by a freed slave by name of Bussa (who was of Igbo heritage)... needless to mention the much celebrated Igbo landing which has become a source of pop culture and renaissance in the fabric of black consciousness across the United States. Where I'm I going with all of this? it's quite simple, Igbos hate oppression, we're not a sheepish people who bow down to just any man, you've got to earn that leadership and trust by your proven records and qualities. The greatest black abolitionist today is Igbo (Olaudah Equiano).

Igbos didn't need an empire to produce beautiful artworks like Igbo Ukwu. Igbo-Ukwu is notable for three archaeological sites, where excavations have found bronze artifacts from a highly sophisticated bronze metal-working culture dating to 9th century AD, centuries before other known bronzes of the region.


We didn't need an empire to resist the British colonial forces for 34 years in the Ekumeku war fought by the Western Igbos and their Aro allies... today the Ekumeku resistance has become the blueprint of research into African resistance against colonialism in many British libraries and research institutes today.

We didn't need an empire to have a powerful theocratic civilization in the Nri kingdom, and without war and subjugation the Nri civilization had a greater sphere of impact on most so called empires like the Benin kingdom etc.

Meanwhile the Oyo empire was once sacked by the Nupe and Fulani alike, under the very watch of the Oyo empire Ilorin fell to the Fulani, and the status quo remains the same till date. The so called empire also failed to stop the yorubas from butchering each other for years in the Kiriji wars, so much that the yorubas had to beg British to come colonize them after they had become so disorganized and vulnerable.

The Benin kingdom abi "empire" fell to the British forces in just 2 days or so of fighting with all their artifacts plundered and looted, and the their King sent into exile where he lived out the rest of his days.

Essentially the only effective empire in Nigeria was the Karnem-Bornu empire, then at large the British empire of modern times remains the greatest and most significant empire... of course we had other great empires like the Songhai, Mali, Kingdom of Aksum, Ethiopia etc

Tobrasky:


The saddest part of your ignorance and stupidity is that somewhere in the village, your poor unfortunate parents who suffered to send you to school to at least acquire some basic education will be thinking their sweat wasn't in vain... even my 10 year old brother knows Jaja was an Igbo born in the old Orlu division precisely where he was captured and sold as a slave and his name was consequently changed. I mean we all learned this simply facts of history back in primary school when we took social studies! seriously are you this incorrigibly daft or are you just trolling for the want of it?

frank202012:

bro what's the title of this book,would want to read it

EzeNri:

Yet, an Anioma led Oha N'Eze Ndi Igbo.

You abokis need help.

For your sifia pains, read about how powerful Aro Confedercy is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aro_Confederacy

It's a confederacy because we believe in Democracy, not bowing to stupid pot-bellied autocratic kings.

IDENNAA:


Your moniker said "Eze Nri" but I see a man who is impersonating Anambra to spit her. You are not from Anambra and please you are insulting Anambra people. Anambra is the home home of Nri ,,Aguleri , Awka , Okodu , Anaedo , Omanbala ,Iguedo etc.

CSTRR:

The South South in pre colonial Nigeria?

Don't discuss history next time.

You have no clue.

mrfizy:
The igbos like my people(Ibibios) are mostly organized under family lines. In Ibibio,our families are our empires. We naturally don't have kings and empires,we have family heads.