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Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by powerhouse3(m): 6:57pm On Mar 15, 2021

chigomiced:
but him defeat Ibibio nah
give am cudus

defeat ibibio ,pure dilusion

Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by Faber(m): 6:58pm On Mar 15, 2021

thebosstrevor1:
How does it relate with the topic of discussion.

FOCUS FOCUS ON THE TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.

You are a tribal bigot and hate yourself for not being Igbo. That's what am trying to establish. Your suffering from inferiority complex. Your past actions and words...will always be used to judge your present state. Dont you know that?

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Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by Aderr: 7:17pm On Mar 15, 2021

I hate threads like this which insults major southern tribes. What are the social, economic, educational, environmental conditions of the Hausa Fulanis today with all their useless extinct empire?
The IBO's stand heads and shoulders above the Hausa fulanis.

Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by EMMY76: 7:24pm On Mar 15, 2021

Mumu poster go do ur research properly first of all igbos are republicans by nature with strong kingdoms scattered all over igbo heartlands before the coming of the white men.
The igbos have so many heroes of old who fought and resisted british colonial rule great heroes like king jaja of opobo, ekumaku warriors of anioma who fought against the british for over 20yrs, the arochukwus, mbaise, mbano people and so many others that gallantly fought against the british colonial conquest for decades.

Besides being a strong powerful nation is not about the nation that have the most powerful monarchy the greatest country today is the united states they don't have any known history of having powerful old kingdoms or monarchy but they are currently the most powerful and the most influential nation on earth nobody jokes with them not even britain and their powerless queen.

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Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by engrchykae(m): 7:27pm On Mar 15, 2021

thebosstrevor1:
Yes, if you know any igbo empire and their heros, mention them.

empires are forged in the fires of war,this is the number one problem,how can you convince highly democratic IGBOS to go to war just for fun?
Do you know the meaning of umuneoha,owerri,mbieri?
Do you know the meaning of unubi,obosi,ihiala and okija?
Finally do you know the meaning of uli?
You think the igbo is your normal African humanoids.
You will never ever understand.
There is a reason we never had a standing army,it is so that no man will use such infrastructure to oppress others.
Even the king is checked so much that the British indirect rule failed woefully in the Eastern region.
We have an empire but it was not forged by war,it was forged by the tenets of democracy from the West in Edo to arochukwu.
Our empire is bound by a force greater than any human instruments of destruction,an idea called freedom.
The YORUBAS and hausas are happy slaves, freedom is impressed in the DNA of the igbo.
IGBOS only fight when they have no choice,when every igbo is threatened.igbos are not your usual Africans,IGBOS look similar to Ethiopians than to black Africans

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Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by EMMY76: 7:32pm On Mar 15, 2021

thebosstrevor1:
Which history books are you reading

The one created by Nnamdi kanu??

Yoruba - Old Oyo Empire.

Hausa - Hausa Empire

Fulani - Fulani empire

Benin - Benin Empire.

Igbo - ?

We know of jaja of opobo even in his small riverine area, he was a hero.

King jaja of opobo is originally from imo state amaigbo to be precise in uwagele lga go do ur research properly before coming to a public forum like nairaland to post rubbis.

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Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by engrchykae(m): 7:33pm On Mar 15, 2021

ajailer:
ibos benefitted most from the white man's coming to Africa...unlike other tribes, they only lived as clans. The white man was the one that came and labelled the ibo ppl a tribe.

I must have to write a book to address this nonsense.
This the NONSENSE they were spewing that prompted chinua Achebe to write things fall apart.
I will address this problem once and for all.
I have loads of information.

Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by engrchykae(m): 7:36pm On Mar 15, 2021

thebosstrevor1:
You have changed history.

Igbo people were still naked when usman dan fodio was preaching in sokoto in the 19th century.

Below is a picture of how igbo people were in the 20th century.

but the people in the pix had expensive piece of clothes on them,is some one on a bikini attire naked because they lack clothes?
You are very funny.

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Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by eagleu: 7:39pm On Mar 15, 2021

thebosstrevor1:
We all know about the Hausa empire, the fulani empire, the benin empire, the Old oyo empire and their heros, we all hear about the history of some of their heros, we hear about usman dan fudio, Afonja, queen aminat, Sango and how they went to battle against other empires and defeated them.

But something amazes me, i have never heard about any igbo empire, never heard about any igbo hero, never heard about any igbo wars. other empires organized wars against the colonists, they resisted and fought until they were subdued, never read any resistance of the colonists by the igbos.

The only war, we know the igbos fought was the civil war in which they were defeated by NIGERIA.

The only igbo hero i know was a fictional one in Chinue Achebe book, Okonkwo in things fall apart.

This is something to ponder about, please if you know any igbo empire or any igbo hero, mention them, i am curious.

If you are honestly curious, you should have done a little research first.

Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by EMMY76: 7:41pm On Mar 15, 2021

thebosstrevor1:
The greeks were highly organized, they had an empire which conquered nations and created western civilization.

your submission does not make sense.

You are not like the greek...stop disrespecting the greeks.

Igbo civilization dates back thausands of years ago below are some pyramids in enugu state build by igbos.

Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by EMMY76: 7:48pm On Mar 15, 2021

thebosstrevor1:
The Ekumeku war was fought by the anioma people..who were the heros??

Presently igbo people do not accept anioma people as igbos.

The ekumeku warriors actually have names and even pictures can't remember any of them now. And who even told u igbos are not accepting anioma people as igbos many of them proudly fought on the side of their igbo brothers during the biafran war.

Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by KoshCAD: 7:58pm On Mar 15, 2021

Samson0599:
You be slave,why attacking Yoruba when the thread was not opened by a Yoruba

He's just a coward
That is a typical OSU slave for you.

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Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by McTobe(m): 8:42pm On Mar 15, 2021

People are out there doing better things with their time and all you can post on Nairaland is this trash... The Darkness is truly using some human souls. That was how antisemiticism started gaining ground in Europe before the WW11. It only take one fellow to drop the thought and see it spread. You have just sown a seed that you don't know the load of what it may return to you but I assure you that only negativities can be the outgrowth of a post like this.

thebosstrevor1:
We all know about the Hausa empire, the fulani empire, the benin empire, the Old oyo empire and their heros, we all hear about the history of some of their heros, we hear about usman dan fudio, Afonja, queen aminat, Sango and how they went to battle against other empires and defeated them.

But something amazes me, i have never heard about any igbo empire, never heard about any igbo hero, never heard about any igbo wars. other empires organized wars against the colonists, they resisted and fought until they were subdued, never read any resistance of the colonists by the igbos.

The only war, we know the igbos fought was the civil war in which they were defeated by NIGERIA.

The only igbo hero i know was a fictional one in Chinue Achebe book, Okonkwo in things fall apart.

This is something to ponder about, please if you know any igbo empire or any igbo hero, mention them, i am curious.

Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by Nobody: 8:45pm On Mar 15, 2021

McTobe:
People are out there doing better things with their time and all you can post on Nairaland is this trash... The Darkness is truly using some human souls. That was how antisemiticism started gaining ground in Europe before the WW11. It only take one fellow to drop the thought and see it spread. You have just sown a seed that you don't know the load of what it may return to you but I assure you that only negativities can be the outgrowth of a post like this.

I hope you will be thoughtful when fulanis are accused of every crimes in Nigeria and called terrorists by you and your gangs

Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by GerogeI(m): 9:02pm On Mar 15, 2021*

thebosstrevor1:
We all know about the Hausa empire, the fulani empire, the benin empire, the Old oyo empire and their heros, we all hear about the history of some of their heros, we hear about usman dan fudio, Afonja, queen aminat, Sango and how they went to battle against other empires and defeated them.

But something amazes me, i have never heard about any igbo empire, never heard about any igbo hero, never heard about any igbo wars. other empires organized wars against the colonists, they resisted and fought until they were subdued, never read any resistance of the colonists by the igbos.

The only war, we know the igbos fought was the civil war in which they were defeated by NIGERIA.

The only igbo hero i know was a fictional one in Chinue Achebe book, Okonkwo in things fall apart.

This is something to ponder about, please if you know any igbo empire or any igbo hero, mention them, i am curious.

Your question is akin to asking a Muslim like yourself to mention his prowess in domestication and rearing of pigs, to show he was civilised and advanced to conquer the various illnesses associated with parasites in pork.

Just like eating pork without dieing is not the only measure of advancement in hygiene and sterilization. Empires and Monarchies are not the only advanced system of government.

Saying Igbos are unorganised because you did not see empires, is akin to saying Muslims are dumb and unintelligent since they could not sterilize pork. You can not evaluate a people by something they abhor.

For you Education:

Igbos were a nation made up of villages as the basic political unit.

Igbos had no Kings, apart from a few exception at their expansion frontier with other groups, such as the Aro that you have so much heard of. Aro was not a native population but a rallying point for migrants from across Igboland.

There is a reason for lack of a national military machinery. Rather each village political unit maintained it's own warriors. Nri Theocracy is the reason, it was the fabric of our national identity, but never used military means, but ideologies. In fact, not all Igbo communities subscribe to Nri followership. Nri as a community it self had zero authority outside its boarders, and lack any military might for any form of forceful domination. It was the Nri priest that was special, not Nri people.

Nri Theocracy was run totally on ideologies, it was responsible for
1. Defining abominations and vacation of abominations
2. Religious Doctrines - of God, Chukwu Abiama,
3. Standard of Moral - Offor na Ogu, -these have no equivalence in English but are used same way you guys swear with Allah, saying Gaskia in the north. But it connotes more- providence, uprightness, faith and resilience
4. Wealth Stocking System
5. Elitist club of leaders - Nze na Ozo, who are tied to the stock exchange system, as responsible members of society.
6. Complex, pyramide structured Title system, which distinguished members of the society, and varied ther influence without granting any absolute power.
7. National Consciousness- kept aflame by roving bands of Nri priests.

These national systems, are well seperated from the daily political governance of our villages. Which still dovetail into our Nri theocracy.

For the village life, governance was different, it was based on Republican system of governance.
Someone asked what we call Democracy as a principle- we call it "Egbe Belu Ugo Belu". It translates literally to "Allow the vulture to perch, even where and when the Eagle perches."

We have a principle of assured self representation for every free born male. Unfortunately, females were represented by their male relations. But every man has a right to have a say or a vote on any issue.

We had Police in the village political unit, as the masquerade ages young men. Masquerading ensured that policing actions carried out by the village could not be pegged on any 1 person.

We had courts, the most honest man was as asked to hold court. Participants had to be willing to subject to his judgement. Else issues were Appealed, first to the Congress of the kindred (Umunna), thereafter to the village Congress.

Parents strived to give their children silver spoons, but we have a worldview where we believe circumstances of your birth, should not limit you. In fact, it is derogatory, if a man is married for by his parents. It showed lack of initiative.

Still, that you have a say, does not mean you must say. All men were equal, but had inequal influence, which is often reflected in titles. Titles were not just names, but held the bearer to certain level of moral and religious obligations. Violating them meant the Mother earth could kill you.

Last, because our national consciousness was theological, we fought no national wars, till the British came. Most of our expansion was by acculturation, which the target self imposed by engaging Nri priest to solve their problems.

Ofcourse, if you believe infidels should be killed, I do not expect you to understand conquering or leading people without conquering them in pains and fear.

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Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by chigomiced: 9:06pm On Mar 15, 2021

SuperBold:
Igbos were not developed till British came. You were cut off from civilization in Nigeria

ok thank you

Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by IDENNAA(m): 9:09pm On Mar 15, 2021

EzeNri:
I am Igbo and we traced our origin to Nri.

So what are you saying?

You are NOT from Anambra there you can't have the Eze Nri title. You are a ffucking impostor! Be proud of your home land , it's extremely offensive to parade your person with an Nri title.

You have no respect for the most prestigious traditional institution in Igbo land...ffuck off , you inferior!

Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by chigomiced: 9:11pm On Mar 15, 2021

powerhouse3:
defeat ibibio ,pure dilusion

present day arochukwu was formerly inhibited by who?...
Goan read ur history well oooo

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Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by okigbojihad: 9:14pm On Mar 15, 2021

powerhouse3:
defeat ibibio ,pure dilusion

oga the ibibios were thoroughly beaten by the Aros u can't change history go sleep.

the land the aros occupy today were by conquest nd not betrayal of any such from ur kinsmen.

Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by chigomiced: 9:14pm On Mar 15, 2021

Ibrahimmrfish:
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Insulting me will not change the reality on ground. I can see that you are in pain,cause of shame of unable to point out a single kingdom or empire built by your ancestors. Eya,take heart,there is nothing to be ashamed of here,it's not your fault that your people were never able to rule over others,don't worry maybe in another world or time it may happen.
Insulting me will not change the reality on ground. I can see that you are in pain,cause of shame of unable to point out a single kingdom or empire built by your ancestors. Eya,take heart,there is nothing to be ashamed of here,it's not your fault that your people were never able to rule over others,don't worry maybe in another world or time it may happen.

the bandit jab been pain u bah

lol

Goan read ur history well oooo

some many kingdoms are in the southeast

dating back to pre colonial times

Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by chigomiced: 9:20pm On Mar 15, 2021

SuperBold:
Igbos were not developed till British came. You were cut off from civilization in Nigeria

let ur stupidity end here pls

Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by Kccheechy(m): 9:20pm On Mar 15, 2021

Is it that the igbos in this forum can't educate us about their history without raining insults and using abusive words?? Ah ah!!! No be fight na!!

Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by chigomiced: 9:22pm On Mar 15, 2021

Ibrahimmrfish:
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Insulting me will not change the reality on ground. I can see that you are in pain,cause of shame of unable to point out a single kingdom or empire built by your ancestors. Eya,take heart,there is nothing to be ashamed of here,it's not your fault that your people were never able to rule over others,don't worry maybe in another world or time it may happen.
Insulting me will not change the reality on ground. I can see that you are in pain,cause of shame of unable to point out a single kingdom or empire built by your ancestors. Eya,take heart,there is nothing to be ashamed of here,it's not your fault that your people were never able to rule over others,don't worry maybe in another world or time it may happen.

Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by chigomiced: 9:23pm On Mar 15, 2021

Ibrahimmrfish:
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Insulting me will not change the reality on ground. I can see that you are in pain,cause of shame of unable to point out a single kingdom or empire built by your ancestors. Eya,take heart,there is nothing to be ashamed of here,it's not your fault that your people were never able to rule over others,don't worry maybe in another world or time it may happen.
Insulting me will not change the reality on ground. I can see that you are in pain,cause of shame of unable to point out a single kingdom or empire built by your ancestors. Eya,take heart,there is nothing to be ashamed of here,it's not your fault that your people were never able to rule over others,don't worry maybe in another world or time it may happen.

ur mumu don do

Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by chigomiced: 9:30pm On Mar 15, 2021

okigbojihad:
oga the ibibios were thoroughly beaten by the Aros u can't change history go sleep.

the land the aros occupy today were by conquest nd not betrayal of any such from ur kinsmen.

nna

u have done us proud

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Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by chigomiced: 9:32pm On Mar 15, 2021

Kccheechy:
Is it that the igbos in this forum can't educate us about their history without raining insults and using abusive words?? Ah ah!!! No be fight na!!

chatapudia

Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by okigbojihad: 9:38pm On Mar 15, 2021

chigomiced:
nna

u have done us proud

dalu nwanne..

i dnt know wat these minorities want to gain by distorting history. ibibio history pages on Fb nd twitter acknowledges this fact that the ibibios were chased out of there ancestral land by the Aros.

Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by chigomiced: 9:50pm On Mar 15, 2021

okigbojihad:
dalu nwanne..

i dnt know wat these minorities want to gain by distorting history. ibibio history pages on Fb nd twitter acknowledges this fact that the ibibios were chased out of there ancestral land by the Aros.

no mind Dem

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Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by Nobody: 10:06pm On Mar 15, 2021

chigomiced:
let ur stupidity end here pls

Wikipedia that u can edit, click on that pen icon and change it again jare grin

Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by sltn(m): 10:09pm On Mar 15, 2021

Okpotokpo:
It surprises me that you included afonja who betrayed his own people and letter died a coward.
I don't think it's your fault, history is banned in Nigeria schools that's why you eat every propaganda they fead you, so dumb.
The igbos resisted the British colonialist and their hausa Fulani Yoruba slaves for 33 years, all thanks to anioma people, they fell at ogwashi uku at asaba at onitsha when trying to conquer Igbos etc.
But it took them less than a month to overran the whole Yoruba land. I think it took them few days to take over Kano. And you here talking rubbish, oga go and research before saying what you don't know anything about.
You and your so called massive empires what has it benefited you, yet the women warriors of Benin republic gave you a run for your dear lives.

tar!! You don't know your history go dig more cause you no nothing my friend. Have' you not heard about how we yorubas create one of the strongest empire in west africa!

Re: Igbo People Have No Empire And No Heros by McTobe(m): 10:12pm On Mar 15, 2021

Not everyone is a monster. Go through my thread and see for yourself I abhor divisive tendencies and stereotyping. See people as humans first and don't forget that the brotherhood of man trascends sovereignty of nations. If you see humans as that you will be just fine. If you on the other hand have a hold on spiritual understanding (not religious) of the purpose of life on earth then you will denounce such a mission as you just set out for yourself

thebosstrevor1:

I hope you will be thoughtful when fulanis are accused of every crimes in Nigeria and called terrorists by you and your gangs

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