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decrox199: "I Did Not Write Any Letter to My Father, IYABO OBASANJO Speaks Out! December18, 2013 IYABO OBASANJO (On Rainbow FM): > "I have never seen or heard this sort of fabrication in my entire life! I, IYABO OBASANJO never contemplate writing a letter to my Loving Father. I speak with him almost on daily bases. "Olusegun Aremu Obasanjo is the best father in the world. He gave birth to me, he raise me up and gave me the best of Education. I wouldn't have achieve whatever I did without my father. IN FACT, WHO AM I WOTHOUT MY FATHER? "As a father he never disappoint his children in any way, he is a father anybody wish to have. "If President Jonathan want to reply the letter my father wrote him, he should be man enough to reply direct. Why are they trying to make me a scape goat? I know my father very well and I don't question his judgement, I believe my father wrote his letter in the best intrest of the nation. If Mr. President disagree with some of the allegations in the latter, let him be man enough to talk directly to my father, he should stop involving me in an issue I know nothing about. "How can you write a letter to insult my father and claim I, the daughter is the source. If that is how Ijaw people insult their father, I am a Yoruba Woman, we respect our parent in all circumstances. "I IYABO OBASANJO did not write any letter. Nigerians should please take note. "The purported letter is a malicious lies intended to rubish the good name of my family, when I get to the source of the letter, I will waste no time to take the necessary legal actions. "I love my father and I never disrespect him."

decrox199: "I Did Not Write Any Letter to My Father, IYABO OBASANJO Speaks Out! December18, 2013 IYABO OBASANJO (On Rainbow FM): > "I have never seen or heard this sort of fabrication in my entire life! I, IYABO OBASANJO never contemplate writing a letter to my Loving Father. I speak with him almost on daily bases. "Olusegun Aremu Obasanjo is the best father in the world. He gave birth to me, he raise me up and gave me the best of Education. I wouldn't have achieve whatever I did without my father. IN FACT, WHO AM I WOTHOUT MY FATHER? "As a father he never disappoint his children in any way, he is a father anybody wish to have. "If President Jonathan want to reply the letter my father wrote him, he should be man enough to reply direct. Why are they trying to make me a scape goat? I know my father very well and I don't question his judgement, I believe my father wrote his letter in the best intrest of the nation. If Mr. President disagree with some of the allegations in the latter, let him be man enough to talk directly to my father, he should stop involving me in an issue I know nothing about. "How can you write a letter to insult my father and claim I, the daughter is the source. If that is how Ijaw people insult their father, I am a Yoruba Woman, we respect our parent in all circumstances. "I IYABO OBASANJO did not write any letter. Nigerians should please take note. "The purported letter is a malicious lies intended to rubish the good name of my family, when I get to the source of the letter, I will waste no time to take the necessary legal actions. "I love my father and I never disrespect him."

gratiaeo: Is he an APC apologies?
If so no problem

InesQor: Well said! We should not forget that translations can tend to cause a loss of perspective if one is not careful.

Here's my 2 cents, say we pardon the length.

First, a caveat: there is a pattern in the Bible that tells us about what God really dislikes about sin, and this can help Christians understand it better rather than imagine that God is just trying to kill their fun. These patterns can help understand what the real issue is, here.

The patterns I refer to indicate that sin is generally anything which has the potential to damage your relationship with God. Your relationship with God can be damaged by such things as
(A) a poisoning of your faith, tending to lose your trust in God
(B) a distraction of your focus on spiritual matters, or
(C) being unjust by harming others (that are also loved by God, are they not?)

Now to the matter. He hit the nail on the head, yet I don't fully agree with Goshen360 that "never does it mean pre-marital se.x".
If harlo'try / prosti'tution / ince'st or another form of illegitimate sex is involved in that instance of pre-marital sex, then it is still a fornication. Harlo'try / prosti'tution is a form of illicit i.e. illegitimate sex.

In papyri and other ancient manuscripts, fornication is synonymously used with "disease" or "any active excess of evil", while in the Bible there are 3 definitions of fornication: 2 Hebrew and one Greek.

Biblical definitions of fornication using Strong's Greek and Hebrew Concordances

- (Hebrew 2181) zanah:
to commit adultery (usually on the female, and less often of simple fornication, rarely of involuntary ravishment);
fig. To commit idolatry (the Jewish people being regarded as the spouse of [Yahweh])…
The Complete Word Study of the Old Testament gives more context to the Hebrew zanah in its Lexical Aid as follows: "To fornicate, commit fornication, be a har'lot, play the har'lot, commit adulte'ry; to apostatize, have inte'rcourse with false g-ds or foreigners; to seduce. The main idea is to commit illicit se'xual intercourse, particularly with women. However, this strong image is used in a figurative sense to describe illegal contact between Israel and other nations and their g-ds…"
Summarily, zanah means playing a harlot, illicit sex, marital illicit sex, and idolatry (worship of a person/thing besides God).

- (Hebrew 8457) taznuth:
a type of idolatry
Summarily, forni'cation translated as taznuth is used only once to mean idolatry (Ezekiel 16:29) and there is no other context to compare it to.

- (Greek 4202) por'neia:
from 4203; harl'otry (incl. Adulte'ry and ince'st);
fig. Idolatry: - forni'cation.
Summarily, por'neia often refers to various forms of illicit sex, physically and metaphorically. In 1 Cor 5, Paul asked the Christians to disallow a sin in their assembly. Someone was sleeping with his father's wife, and this was called a fornication. Modern Christians would have called this an adult'ery or inces't but fornication was good enough for Paul to convey his meaning i.e. illicit sex.

In a number of other Biblical instances, fornication refers to engaging with Baal temple prosti'tutes (which is a combination of both physical harlo'try and spiritual harlo'try). In some ancient pagan practices, sex was an integral part of worship activities.

Let's bring it all together.

Fornication broadly has a physical connotation and a metaphorical connotation:
- Physically it refers to various forms of illicit / illegitimate sex. Pedophi'lia, bestia'lity, harlo'try, ra'pe and other Biblical sexu'al restrictions are all included in this definition. As the papyri sources also said, a disease or any active excess of evil.
Generally, this kind of sex is harmful because it is the type of sex that takes advantage and avoids any kind of commitment. It is a sin because of patterns B and C above.
- Metaphorically, fornication refers to harlotry of the soul. This is an illicit connection / coupling with an idol. It's interesting to note that this is the more prevalent fornication that Christians should be worried about, and not the above. That "must see" TV show, that sport that makes you lose yourself, that breathless chase after the newest gadgets in the market, even your child or your job can be an idol that you are forn'icating after, illictly i.e. at the expense of your spiritual development. This one is a sin because of patterns A and B above.

Now, this final point is most certainly controversial. The real question is, when do people get married in God's sight? Is it when they swear in court, or when the bride and groom wear their traditional gear to receive family blessings, or when the pastor "joins them together"? No, those are for the society and for family and for the church, respectively. God knows, either before or AFTER these events, when he chooses to honor their union. People can get married in court, a traditional event or even by a pastor and in God's sight they are not even joined together. Meanwhile others can be unmarried and God accepts them as one. In this case then, having sex with someone that you genuinely love and have positive intentions for (but for some valid reasons are not yet court/traditional/church married to) will not be a sin.

Caveats to the above:
- Personally I do not subscribe to people engaging in no-strings-attached random sex because I believe the act is too intimate to be taken in a noncommital fashion (even your body does not take it with levity e.g. emotional imbalances due to the release of oxytocin in women after sex). Eventually at least one person always gets hurt physically or emotionally, even if it does not manifest for years.
- I also do not subscribe to the type of sex in many modern dating / relationship scenes because it is often as well noncommital. A rule of thumb here is for them to ask themselves, if, say the lady gets pregnant would the man be willing to set aside everything in his life and attend to her, the way he would have done if she was his wife? Or say if either of them had a life-threatening condition or was involved in a terrible accident, would the other do ALL they possibly can to help, the way one would do for a spouse? If the answer is no, then what they have is not yet pure and the sex is noncommital and in my opinion should be considered a sin.
- Also, we have people who set their eyes on someone and desire to have sex with him / her then they scheme their way into the person's heart / life until they end up having that anticipated sex. This will also most likely be noncommital because the person had an aim and now it has been fulfilled, the only way forward is to get more or find another victim. This is definitely illicit then.

I don't know of any verse in the Bible that condemns non-illicit pre-marital sex (the type that does not take advantage and does not avoid commitments), but I feel pastors just discredit pre-marital sex entirely because many people do not have the patience, maturity or understanding to process the various ramifications involved in the act of sex. It's thus easier for Christians just wait until they are in the defined confines of a marriage, to do their thing. As 1 Corinthians 7:9 put it, "...it is better to marry than to burn".

I finally re-iterate, sin is generally anything which has the potential to damage your relationship with God, and your relationship with God can be damaged by such things as
(A) a poisoning of your faith, tending to lose your trust in God
(B) a distraction of your focus on spiritual matters, or
(C) being unjust by harming others (that are also loved by God, are they not?)

bizibrain: It seems u dont get my argument.

I tink u should av criticize my opinion if I had said d jersey as an excellent pattern, which automatically class it as d best or one of d best jersey so far.

Being d worst jersey does nt in anyway classify d pattern nt GOOD or OK, dere is possibility d previous jerseys has an EXCELLENT PATTERN compare 2 dis I consider 2 av a pattern which is ok nd manageable.


Even if I had said d jersey as a whole is OK , FAIR, GOOD or V.GOOD, it does nt in anyway antagonize d fact of being d worst jersey so far produced because d previous jersey mayb EXCELLENTLY patterned nd colored 2 me.

I didnt even call d jersey trash, but am refering 2 d IDEA dat produce dat color combo.As u can c, TRASH stands alone and av no sentence connection watsoever with NIGERIA.

2 me, d previous jersey ar nt excellent but dey ar nt in anyway in d same level wit dis jersey.

I tink wit dis, U should c I wasnt on weed or out of senses wen I criticize dat jersey despite initially acknowledging it aving a pattern which is ok.

Even genius view tins frm different perspective, so I dont expects we all av d same mentality of viewing, understanding or accepting tins, dat wil b an arrant nonsenstical idea.

safarigirl: are you schizophrenic? The speed with which you progressed from 'the pattern is ok' to 'dis is d worst jersey 2 av been designed 4 NIGERIA TRASH' is alarming. @topic, the jerseys look ok though I'm against the mixture of dark and lemon green. I want to see the away kit, hope the jerseys fit this time, sick of seeing Ahmed Musa looking like a mouse attached to a kite whenever he's running. Yes, the one by the nairalander is a thousand
times more attractive

Treasure103: Wish I couxld have it.! If only nigerian men do give cars as christmas gifts. Nice ride tho'

Ola Johnson: The failure to recognize Nigeria, nay the President of Nigeria has to do more with the occupant of that office. I doubt if the same thing would have happened if, say, Olusegun Obasanjo was the President.

vicoloni: I had refrained from joining any school of thought on Nigeria's political arena for many reasons but after reading this piece I am forced to express my utter disappointment and disgust in the way Mr. President is running the affairs of this great nation called Nigeria.
Even under military rule, Nigeria used to be much feared and respected by other African countries and most western states but what do we have today? Widespread disdain for anything Nigeria even among the ranks of its citizens.

In a saner society, the 'vote of no confidence' letter written by Mr. Obasanjo is more than enough to make a president to resign!

My 10 cents!!

Nuel J.:
I used to think I was the only one who feels this way regarding must of the nigerian so called hit tracts. Glad to know others also notices them. Most of these songs get me disgusted. Virtually all of these artists today only sell beats cos in terms of lyrics, its all nonsense. You can't even take anything out of there songs. Let them learn from some of these western artist like taylor swift, katy perry, pink, and the like. When you listen to their songs, you feel the message, not all these trash we have here

Marine*etyon:
Gorilla warfare is the hardest to end. I don't see the war ending in 4 decades. May God spare His own. Amen.

umar745: kai! Stop it. Except the lawyer would work for absolutely free she doesn't need him. I've done what she wants to do b4 and I didn't need or use a lawyer. Lawyers would just charge avoidable fees

Imanda: Presently, I am a victim of this ADMINISTRATION LETTER. I just lost my husband and wanted to get the pension deductions. The process is like passing through the needles eyes. I met a law firm who demanded N100,000 before they will start processing the letter . I have to give up even when i know i needed the money to pay the children's bills. STANBIC IBTC

Please, if anybody know how to assist me, I'll be ever grateful.

spongeback: Old Testament, in the New Testament Jesus tore the curtain in the temple which signifies liberty. You can come worship God just as you are in spirit and in truth.

colo$$u$:
For me its White House Down. I've seen both movies. White House Down, though a copycat of Olympus has fallen is way better. Gerard Butler's role can't be compared to Channing Tatum's role. We also saw the president in WHD (Jamie Foxx) in action also (with his sneakers lol), but the president in OHF was ineffective.
Both films allows the leading character(s) (Butler, Tatum) to have a road to redemption (proving their worth).
Beyond that it’s a tale of heroics, and since Channing Tatum has a daughter in his film, we need to give the edge to White House Down here. What stakes are bigger when you have to save both the President and your own daughter?

samkoro: Let me tell u my friend,the U.S is aware of all these missiles u mentioned.Right fromm the WW2,the U.S fights wars with newly developed weapons.European countries respect and fear the U.S for this.So all these missile launchers u are glorifying will be nothing but a double barrel den gun as far as this war is concerned.

Do u know that a recent test of a new missile by the U.S and Isreal made the Russians tremble; imagine the fact that Russia became jittery and started shouting and complaining in the media,because they noticed something that was too extra-ordinary.

Yungwizzzy: she was probably deceived on getting there discovered the real deal, maybe tried to escape and got killed

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