AustineE1: Wike is now the fall guy,the Yoruba president being true to character.....he is now seen as the bad guy. Wike has been let down by people who should be with him, that's very interesting.Thats why I always laugh at my over active brothers trying very much to impress the powers that be. When the chips are down,that's when you will know that you are not one of them. Just look at Emeifele,he is the fall guy of Buhari's govt,he is left to rot in jail while others are holidaying all over the world!I from canary island to Ibiza to the Caribbean and then to Malta to check up on their loots and blinding plants.
Buccalcavity2: Question i have is: why do fights BTW these factions seem more effective than military attack? E.g shekau will still be alive today if not for thier internal fights.
Which military? The military that sends its officers to be doing omo onile in land matters in Abuja. That one na military?
So how is bringing the military to beat up people that come near the land is the answer
You are talking as if you have forgotten the kind of country you live in. This is one of the most backward societies in the world. A society where people are cool with soldiers beating them in the streets. You would even hear them joke about how a naval boy can beat better than a soldier or vice versa. A complete shithole in every meaning of the word. That soldier would lose his commission of this were a working society. Wike is a stupid man hated by many of us but then that soldier getting involved in land dispute drags in the mud the reputation of the army
OgaTheTop2: Focus on the topic. This is not about bandit.
In a broader sense, thunderfireseun is focused on the topic. It's only in backward societies that a soldier who is supposed to be in the barracks or securing the country would be securing a plot of land or threatening civilians on the street
2elliot: Just stay alive. Did the Fulanis conquer the north in one swoop? No. It was a continuous assault until they finally fell, even though the Fulanis also experienced defeats in some of the battles. Yaribas stopping their advancement in one or two battles did not mean that they wouldn't have fallen with reinforcement. The Fulanis where yet to activate all of their gimmicks before the whiteman came.
Then you don't know anything about Yorubas. We've been protecting ourselves from enemies for long. The fulanis were supposed to overrun Yoruba land after they took Ilorin. The Yoruba third columnists who handed over their town, Ilorin to the fulanis led them downwards into Yoruba land, they would have taken over our land and reached the Atlantic. But Yoruba sons from Abeokuta at that time had connections with the outside world. They got guns for the Yoruba armies who faced the fulanis. The fulanis were defeated and sent back to Ilorin. It was the British who later prevented the Yorubas from taking back Ilorin.
So with this kind of history, you think we don't know how to handle them?
Don't worry ugm will soon take over the whole SE. I hope you will be alive to see it.
We will expect more long buses from that side to come to the West. But a time will come when you might no longer be welcome.
VOsimhen144: I love Nigeria deeply but Sometimes I wonder if there's a spell on Nigerians, the spell that keeps us from speaking up or standing together against injustice.
Fuel subsidy was removed, and what followed? Poverty and unbearable hardship. We already pay VAT. Most of us youths are unemployed. Yet, somehow, God gave us wisdom to survive through small businesses, remote jobs, and trading the financial markets opportunities the government never created for us.
We cried about unemployment, we cried about the high cost of living, we cried about insecurity, Still, absolutely nothing is being done, everything in Nigeria remains a struggle.
We struggle to get even the basic things of life in Nigeria, (shelter) house rent wan kee person, (food) person no fit chop balance diet not to talk of 3 square meal a day… etc
To gain admission is hard, to graduate is harder. To serve your country is another battle. And after all that, no jobs. We kept quiet through it all. Now, suddenly, they want to tax us. For what exactly?
My pain is that many Nigerians don't even realize how deeply this will hurt us. I have no problem paying tax but only in a country that works, not in this broken system. I love Nigeria deeply, but I am heartbroken by what our nation has become.
We must speak up against this tax. Look at the interview between Rufai Oseni and Minister of Works, David Umahi, on Arise TV over the cost of the Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway project. Oseni simply ask Umahi for the project's cost per kilometer, a figure he felt the public deserved to know but the minister was not providing… and it turned to heated argument.
Let the government first show us what they did with the money from fuel subsidy before demanding more from us.
And now, we're hearing reports that the current Tinubu administration is gifting over N250 million to each governor defecting to APC, N1 billion to senators, and N500 million to House members, and everyone is quiet? When will we say enough is enough? What's really going on with us? I jst dey think about this country’s future, E be like I go sell my properties japa becus the country’s light don off at the end of the tunnel
2elliot: Freedom. You might not understand what the Igbos are facing, but if you live long enough, you will understand. Nigeria will not go back to normal. The days before the whitemen landed in Nigeria and temporarily put a stop to the Fulani jihadist and conquest mission are back. This is an age long mission. It is nothing lie you have seen. But be rest assured that, Nigeria will fall into the hands of the jihadists, not just because they had the might, but it is because it is being assisted by the very country itself. Like I said, if you live long enough, you will experience it, except something drastic happens to change cause, just as the coming of the whitemen did in time past.
You can't understand these things because of the history or lack of it of your people. The British didn't stop the fulanis, the Yoruba army did at oshogbo in the 1860s and sent them back to the north. Iboland would have been fair play to the marauders if not for the Yorubas. So when you say the fulanis would soon turn every part of Nigeria to their Islamic faith, I know you are talking bulls.hit.
But let me tell you this for free, son- if you live long enough you would experience ugm and other miscreants like kanu and ekpa take over your land. They will torment you people more than they're doing now. You know why? Because the whole of your land continues to bury its head in the sand about the problem just like your op brother.
absoluteSuccess: Bro, I get you this time around, you are in competition with the Igbo, you are competing from "we're better than the Igbo" mentality. I have nothing to do with such competition.
Please can there ever be a time you guys will talk about something that unites us as humans and not be partisan? Isn't empathy better than pettiness when people's lives are lost enmass?
This is my last response to you sir, I thank God you just told me more Yoruba are converting to Christianity, neither you nor myself have statistics to back our claim on this.
I wander who will decide on national level in years to come, maybe it's these new converts or the entrenched power brokers. I'm not interested in your politics sir, just let the world know about the ongoing killings.
I like to ask, point me to your thread as a Nigerian from any ethnicity talking about the ongoing killings in the middle belt before this thread was made.
That's to show you care for life than politics where you are driving this conversation from start because Igbo was mentioned. Kindly prove me wrong by telling the world about the rampaging Islamic militias.
Thanks.
You are confused. What's my business with competing with ibos? The ibos are the ones competing with the north in murdering their own people and spreading fear on their own land. The purpose and essence of your thread are things I easily deciphered and put the lie to. Double speak will not mask your intention properly brother.
absoluteSuccess: What you have posted validates my point. If the quote here was dropped by an Igbo person, that very person in question is the other extreme of Nnamdi Kanu that exists in Igbo land. I'm sure you know there's always two extremes in every human society where freedom of expression exists?
You can't stamp one of the extremes on the people as what they all stand for, even if one extreme is in the majority. The purpose of a sane society made up of multifaceted identities and ideologies is for the central government to work so hard to manage the marriage that no section of the mix will be able to feel underserved.
Of course in my own limitations as a member of the same society, I know it's not possible to have this kind of perfection in totality, if we agree to that, we have made room for dissenters and well meaning people to expose our shortcomings from the inequalities at the forefront of our national consciousness, we'll also have people from here to threaten fire and brimstone because their needs were not met as deemed fit.
Now if the very people who are in the forefront of fighting for their rights to quality existence they imagined possible did so much to have their way, they might actualize their dreams and nothing has been casted in stone that a people do not deserve self rule, before, now, or never will. Something they feel insecured about must have triggered their agitations? What's the threat? Has it been dealt with and they still remain defiant?
As Yoruba, I agree with Awo, that a secession clause should be inserted in the constitution, going by the look of things. Who was Awo afraid of? Has the fear of the time been lost to the generations afterwards? I also defer to Zik, that we can burn our bridges and believe this Nigeria project will work. Am I confused? No, I'm just being divergent in my choices, I have given room enough to allow the interplay of all extremes that could possibly be., believing that the future will create leaders that will be capable enough to deal with all crises that the future will spur.
In this, I am not a slave of the past, it's gone for good. I'm just a hardline student of history. Now my Igbo brothers have done “all sorts of killings” so to say, but the same people are the ones shouting the loudest now for the killings going on in the middle belt. Wait, could these inequalities be the same thing that is inspiring their own agitation for a country of their own to protect their future generations? Please what legislation do you have against futuristic thinking? Are the people shouting the same people confirmed to be behind killings in the East?
The ideologies of African founding fathers were city states, the ideology of our colonial masters was originally an all-inclusive sprawling Commonwealth of their Empires that eventually became independent countries due to their own resources spread thin enough to breaking point of WWI&II, couple with the advent and defiance of the freedom fighters that colonialism created, from where statements like "Zambia must be free" came from. But there is still an underground ideologies ongoing and as such, there's always going to be reactions to it moving forward.
The most visible growing ideology around the world is the ideology of Islam, which is to rule over mankind through religion. The ideology of the Christianity is to make heaven. These two are completive and mutually exclusive. One however allowed for forceful takeover, which is radical Islam. With that, Christianity seems to be an ideology on the way of Islam.
Now if the Igbo have been the loudest people exposing the genocide going on in the middle belt, then they are a people most likely to be, they are a people most likely to love freedom than most people in Nigeria. They are a people who have a lot to lose if the evil going on eventually become all engulfing, they are an African people who still have their society intact as a unit, the worst religious battle will be fought in that country, God forbid if they are to be confronted with the incoming fundamental Islam to the Maghreb.
This is because the Igbo has said over time that they were Jews and you and I definitely know what that means. I don't know of an older source of genealogical history than a written one spanning a millennial that they adhere to as Christians. The Quran did not have a similar span. Now in the scenario where the Jews of Africa meet the fundamental Islam marching to the Maghreb, nobody prays for the consequences. So the Igbo must be the most concerned about the plight of the people of the middle belt.
Already, the Yoruba have been completely immersed with Islam so much that it's just a matter of time before they all become Muslims. Otherwise there's no known Yoruba agenda. We only have the need to be stewards of power and that has been settled. Next is to japa to just any country where a university certificate can earn us a decent livelihood. While we're clueless about what's going on, it's okay to mock the Igbo just to look better and get Kobo Kobo likes that satisfies our dopamine on nairaland and other social media sites switching the narrative to sound wise as long as Igbo is mentioned.
I don't have any grudge against the Yoruba Muslim ummah, or my beautiful Hausa and Fulani neighbors. I will support them to have Sharia in the most densely Islamic states, but when it comes to Fulani militia taking over Hausa land or the middle belt, I know they have a dilemma that their faith has shown them where their sentiments must be, I also understand the insatiable nature of man who makes power their birthright at the expense of peace.
This is my own voice in time like this. The only people who could be heard are the people who don't identify with the people in power. Only fools will want a story told from one point of view that comes from the source that is not doing enough or is complicit in the narrative.
Long read. Well, you are still speaking from both sides of the mouth to justify your initial point of trying to put the ibos on a pedestal they don't belong. Ok, let me ask you: with the benefit of hindsight, whose idea do you think would have favoured Nigerians today-- Awo's or Zik's? WHAT Awo saw sitting down, Zik and his Igbo people did not see it even after climbing an iroko tree.
And for you to say Islam is so pervasive in Yoruba land to the extent that all Yorubas would soon become Muslims shows that you are either not a Yoruba man as you claim or you are just one of those extreme Yoruba obidients. How many Yorubas have you seen converting from Christianity to Islam? The reverse is actually the case.
So your point is moot. The igbos didn't expose anything about the killings in the north. The exposure was done by the media in Nigeria, both old media and new media, and both are even more in the control of Yorubas than any other tribe in Nigeria. See nairaland and Punch for example. The major work was done by the persecuted Christians in the north themselves who never kept quiet.
What the ibos have done is to inflict gratuitous pain and killings upon themselves. And I think that's even worse in moral terms than its northern equivalent. For how can you start killing your own people and stopping them from going to work on Mondays just because you want to prove a point? How can a whole region listen to a demented half-educated megalomaniac in the person of kanu?
mrvitalis: Government sponsored killings to give agitators bad name
Every smart human know this
IPOB accused of the killing has agreed for nigeria to allow an independent enquiry into the killings in the South East... Guess who is against such enquiry ?
There are more killings in South West than South East... What do we call the killings in South West
The fact that most of Kanu’s supporters are shocked the broadcasts used to charge him exist is pure cognitive dissonance.
Many of you heard those orders live when he told anyone who came out on sit-at-home days to be killed. “You know we love dead bodies” , his words, verbatim. “I decide who lives and who di es” , verbatim. “I will go to Abuja and bring back the head of Buhari” , verbatim.
When he ordered prison breaks, ambushes on police, kpaing of officers and military, and his terr0rists came on air to report it, none of you went to stop him.
When he ordered the May 31 sit-at-home and warned that even old women coming out to fend for their children’s stomachs would be kpaid on the spot, you heard it. None of you said a word. Imaro na owu crime that you consigned, funded, and cheered.
And the iti akwus who come now to gaslight us with “IPOB was non-violent till Python Dance” so non-violent that they set Orsu, Umuaka, Lili, Achala and Okigwe ablaze. Call it what it was, terror, arson, bl0odshed. We will not let you excuse it.
When Kanu went on air ordering the kpaing of anyone who disobeyed him, and later boasted he could stop insecurity in the Southeast in two minutes, that was posturing for a political solution, a threat designed to force concessions. He wanted governors to come negotiate on his behalf “so peace would return” on his terms.
That’s why his people started pointing at terr0rists in the North, an ironic, telling diversion. They moved from denying he was a terr0rist to demanding that their terrorist be negotiated with.
Kanu said repeatedly that to get Biafra they would turn the “zoo” into a place worse than Sudan. When you heard that, where did you think he meant? Who were the intended victims? Who would be used as shields?
When he said “we will draw the zoo army to our land and annihilate them” how did you imagine that drawing happening? Through singing praise and worship? By singing the Biafran anthem? No, he meant ambushes, bloodshed, and using civilian bodies as shields on Igbo soil.
You lot cannot pretend to be outraged now after cheering the vi0lence and expect anyone to take you seriously.
You cannot demand his release to “calm the land” when he is the one who set it on fire.
The recordings didn’t make him guilty, his own words did. And you heard them.
And the law said he had a case to answer.
Stop performing surprise. Quit the faux outrage. Own what you cheered.
Look at every community ESN boys and Umuoma Kanu invaded, how non-peaceful they now are. That is the Biafran liberation he promised. Are you impressed?
Adaisback: it is also the igbos that are more vocal against the killings in the East even here on nairaland . Eg , Tochi, proudly omoina, ejiofor, kingotex, my humble self etc
I see. But there are many ibos who say Kanu is a messiah and that ugm and ipob are doing a good job
Let me go through your posts and see what you mean
lastmessenger: if the killing going on the south east is the same proportion of killing going on in the other parts of the country then it means Nigeria security is good. As a matter of fact there wont be a cry of Christian genocide. Please tell me any occasion where a south east governor called for peace meetings between them and the non-state actors who brandish AK 47? When was the last time villages was ransacked and the peoples land taken over and renamed in the southeast.?
If one life is lost to any act of terrorism, it is one life too many. The nonsense we have in the north also started gradually. The northerners were also romancing their terrorists the same way you downplay the menace of ugm and ipob.
absoluteSuccess: Brother, try to enlighten me and everyone that reads, you can also create a thread on the nomenclature of the killings in Igbo land, that's your beat.
Except you want to argue that nothing is going on in the middle belt or I'm not supposed to talk about it. By the way, I have right to pray for the Igbo as long as it's my prayer.
Why should I hate on my neighbors?
You brought igbos into the thread. It's there in the title. You made it look as if the ibos have done something spectacular for the middle belt people in trying to help them(I still don't know what they have done sha) with their insecurity problem. What I merely pointed out is that if the ibos were so adept at helping with this kind of issue, how come they have become incompetent in handling theirs? Except you want to argue that nothing is going on in the East
Mind you, this is a public forum and anybody has the right to make comments on any topic you put up here. Thank you
absoluteSuccess: While I don't support any form of violence, but to comment on the killings on the East, I will like you to understand that the Igbo race are a peculiar people from the little time I've been in this world. I know they do challenge their fears.
Although it has nothing to do with it, but when China was trying to industrialize, it suffered self imposed trauma to the extent that there's nothing the people don't eat, but today, the country is out of the woods.
Did Japan not lord it over Chinese before the country decided to take it's destiny by it's own hands? So whatever is the ongoing issue in the East, that's for the time being, it's the land of the rising sun of the black race. It shall be a land that the enemy will not rule over direct.
Ok. So the nomenclature you give the killings in the East is Self Imposed Trauma?
absoluteSuccess: In the video shared about the ongoing killings in the middle belt on YouTube, it's pertinent to save this mindset or myopic point of view of the ongoing issue for the records.
I will encourage us to see things for what they are, and thank God they speak Yoruba in the video and the opinion is of the commentators, not in anyway sponsored. But the very same opinion cut across and completely failed to do justice to the problem as it pretend to want to.
Now the essence of sharing this is the fact that, this very sentiment is shared among the Yoruba m****m, and some don't just see the recklessness of their sentiments just yet.
Of course some people are unaware of what is called emotional intelligence. If the Fulani militia are ajagungbale, and you describe the people who own the land as people in the firing line of the Fulani militia, that's a building up of abetting with the idea that “might is right”.
Then the same commentators concluded that the Fulani are clashing with settlers because of climate change. The west has punched a hole in that narrative. How has this very claim been proven beyond reasonable doubt?
The same mouth which says that the militia started their carnage from Borno because it was not conquered during Othman Dan Fodiyo Jihad switch to climate change when the bandit and Fulani got involved in the same thing happening earlier in Borno against Western education.
So it's Western education in Borno, it's grassland and climate change in Benue, what will it become when it gets to Ilorin? It will change its nomenclature there too, and on and on, it will clear up the middle belt and build up a launchpad to get to the entire south under another name in decades to come.
You will fight tooth and nail that it's not a religious war as you are doing now, but first you will run, wishing you had put out the fire on the mountains of plateau when it was first kindled, but you are protecting your religion instead of it to protect you, you are fighting for Allah instead of him to fight for you.
Oluwo shared a video of his visit to a meeting at Abuja and in spite of his allegiance to the Fulani, the sitting emirs in the video did not accord him much respect as did Jonathan and Obasanjo. One did not even bother to shake hands with him.
Again, I pray for the Igbo nation, who have been vehemently noising the ongoing carnage in all social media, being the voice of the voiceless minorities, that God will always stand by them and will be their help in time of need.
Today you think you are safe, but the killers are encroaching on you while you think it's the minority they were attacking. You don't know that those are your outpost to defend, big for nothing slaves of brainwash. Why is your God subservient of foreign gods?
Eleduwa means "the Sustainer of existence". Interpret the name of the foreign gods you are shielding from scandal and let's see what it means?
Jeezuzpick: Osimhen needs to be protected from injury during national team assignment.
NFF doesn't care about him. An injury while wearing the green jersey might not get the swift treatment he needs, that would otherwise be available in his club.
Anyone who wants the young man to succeed will not wish super eagles on him.
However, if he plays for Nigeria, I wish him the best, and I pray for injury-free matches for him.
You don't know how much every football wishes to be at the world cup, especially good footballers like Oshimen who have never had the chance to play at that level
Ventura1: An interesting angle on this narrative is that it seems to originate from a separatist movement - the so-called "Biafran separatists" - in the South of Nigeria who last year hired former U.S. Congressman Jim Moran as a lobbyist to push for their movement.
Which is quite an ironic angle in the case of the Biafra area because it's located in the South of the country, which is overwhelmingly Christian (Nigeria is actually the country in Africa with the most Christians), and is the safest part of the country for Christians.
They're apparently paying Jim Moran "under a $10K per month contract" (again, according to Moran himself on his website) which, assuming this is indeed what spurred Trump's sudden passion for Nigerian Christians, would make it perhaps the greatest ROI in lobbying history: shaping US foreign policy for the cost of a small startup's marketing budget.
This one is just about Biafra liberation. The one that attracted the United States government was done by the people of Benue
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