Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 5:44pm On May 14, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Please remind me of a servant of God who did such in the Bible!  I hope u haven't totally lost it. All through the bible people say what they observe. Even christ said when u observe certain things you know the time is near. The Bible never told you to close your eyes and ears |
Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 5:42pm On May 14, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Jesus never preached to groups! He entered the temple where Jews come together for worship but when preaching he goes to people's homes. It's the miracles that attracts multitude so that he look for a place to sit them down and begin TEACHING not PREACHING to them! So you can see that i'm not just a blind believer i can explain the logic behind what Jesus asks me to do and how practical it is!  Please don't totally confuse yourself and also start lying all in the name of defending JW. Preaching and teaching are synonyms and are used interchangeably in the bible. See below
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Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 5:31pm On May 14, 2021 |
Janosky: Madam,no dey DECEIVE yourself. Why did Jehovah's servants quarantine a sick person in the old testament in your own Bible?
1 Corinthians 5:1-4,9-13 "I can hardly believe the report about the sexual immorality going on among you—something that even pagans don’t do. I am told that a man in your church is living in sin with his stepmother. 2You are so proud of yourselves, but you should be mourning in sorrow and shame. And you should remove this man from your fellowship. 3Even though I am not with you in person, I am with you in the Spirit. And as though I were there, I have already passed judgment on this man 4in the name of the Lord Jesus. You must call a meeting of the church. I will be present with you in spirit, and so will the power of our Lord Jesus. 5Then you must throw this man out and hand him over to Satan so that his sinful nature will be destroyed and he himself will be saved on the day the Lord returns. 6Your boasting about this is terrible. Don’t you realize that this sin is like a little yeast that spreads through the whole batch of dough?
9When I wrote to you before, I told you not to associate with people who indulge in sexual sin. 10But I wasn’t talking about unbelievers who indulge in sexual sin, or are greedy, or cheat people, or worship idols. You would have to leave this world to avoid people like that. 11I meant that you are not to associate with anyone who claims to be a believer yet indulges in sexual sin, or is greedy, or worships idols, or is abusive, or is a drunkard, or cheats people. Don’t even eat with such people. 12It isn’t my responsibility to judge outsiders, but it certainly is your responsibility to judge those inside the church who are sinning. 13God will judge those on the outside; but as the Scriptures say, “You must remove the evil person from among you.”
Is 1 Corinthians 5:1-4,9-13 in your Bible? Is 2 Thessalonians 3:6 in your Bible? Madam did your Bible command you to embrace sin because you want to help sinners and criminals? 1 Corinthians 5:1-4,9-13, tell your Church people to obey God's word & STOP laying FALSE accusations on JWs. 1 thessalonians 5:21 "Hold fast to what is good. Madam, JWs will continue to obey 1 Corinthians 5:1-2,9-13 & 2 Thessalonians 3:6.
Madam, since you & your Church can't obey God's word @ 1 Corinthians 5:1-2,9-13 & 2 Thessalonians 3:6, you have no right or moral high ground to criticize JWs for obedience to the holy scriptures. Simple question: did Christ stay and dine with even the lowest of sinners - tax collectors, or not? Did He shun anybody? And you selectively quote the bible. How about this part: 19Though I am free of obligation to anyone, I make myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. 20To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), to win those under the law. 21To those without the law I became like one without the law (though I am not outside the law of God but am under the law of Christ), to win those without the law. 22To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 5:25pm On May 14, 2021 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 3:02pm On May 14, 2021 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 2:57pm On May 14, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: The highlighted is delusion my friend because if truthfully you belong to Jesus you won't leave his orders then start thinking you're smarter than him!  He said going to speak with people on individual bases is the best way to save lives but listen to yourself:
So Jesus gave the order saying "speak to them one by one, convince them that i'm the only begotten son of God, teach them all what i've commaded you then baptize them in the name of the father and of the son and of the Holy Spirit" JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are doing just that and so far so good they've been through all the nations on this planet and secured lives counting on the orders given by Jesus. But you are classifying them as a cult group simply because they are imperfect humans and some of them are still battling with the flesh. Well i've discovered that you're just arguing blindly so if truthfully you want to chat with a JW like me on the issue of peacemaking please stop all these human reasoning and let's meditate on the benefits of the wise counsels given by God's only begotten son (Jesus Christ) Isaiah 9:6 May you have PEACE!  Notice how I said I belong to Lord Jesus? You yourself belong to JW and that's the big difference. Try bypassing JW and dwelling on CHRIST. They are not synonymous. Why are you fixated on this one by one, where did He say you shouldn't speak to groups? He spoke to groups. But it is only individuals that can talk. And it's someone that has to call them to start dualogue |
Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 2:49pm On May 14, 2021*. Modified: 4:06pm On May 14, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: That's why JWs will never accept you people as Christians! See the way you're undermining the counselor God Himself sent to save the world!  If Jesus said it's to be done from house to house so that each individual will be fully convinced to settle matters amicably with his fellowman, do you think your opinion worths more than that of the most wonderful counselor the world has ever had?  You are talking about groups when the leader is already glorified having a multitude of followers backing him as their champion!  Do you think anyone can change the mind of such a commanding officer when his mission is yet accomplished? Well for your information i'm an ex-military man and i'm telling you now that once a group of fighters have been formed the only way to settle issues is when one side surrenders until then no side will retreat because the commanding officer is glorified and nobody can take away his glory not when a multitude is counting on him! So the best way to kill such glory is when each person already knew that picking up weapons against his neighbour is wrong, then nobody will be glorified except the one and only Commader who gave the order saying "Return your sword to its place, for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword" Matthew 26:52 With those words in the minds of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES there is no way anyone can manipulate us to pick up weapons against our neighbours. That's what it means to be a true Christian!  See how you are fixated on JW. Myself, I only said I belong to the Lord Jesus, you don't see me blindly hyping any sect. That's part of what makes JW cult-like. --------------- My bros history is full of examples of war being averted because the leaders dialogued. It is individuals that talk of course, how can a group talk? Don't know why u r fixated on that. I don't know how u can be this brainwashed - when two people are about to fight, what is the noble thing to do? What would a peace maker do? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 1:35am On May 14, 2021 |
ospido: Identify your religion let's also see how it is. But fear go let you? E go shock everybody sef say na juju you dey serve. I am property of Lord Jesus who died for my sins, so be careful what u say about me |
Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 9:56pm On May 13, 2021 |
ospido: I have challenged you to name one religion. Go back to my previous posts. Bros your leaders are misleading you. The only reason they have JW cult-like is fear of losing members. That's it. There are lots of Christian churches that are tight-nit and cult-like and everyone is a sibling. See below - do they look like they care if u r green?
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Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 9:22pm On May 13, 2021 |
ospido: Janosky, achorladey
If you use the term excommunicate in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses, all will just know you're not one of them.
That word is alien to us just like urination is alien to birds.
Besides, they're not synonyms as you alleged.
Finally, i can categorically say that you Janosky are a disfellowshipped person.
You can prove me wrong. See below
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Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 9:07pm On May 13, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: It's like we need to treat this issue of governance. For your information, all human rulers are terrorists and armed robbers! You may see them as your protectors but as long as they force people to do things they're more or less terrorists and armed robbers. JWs pay them for whatever they demands not because we are pleased having them but at least they set standards unlike their rivals (terrorists and armed robbers) who are not on the seat of power! Listen and learn now. If the armed robber gets to the seat of governance he will also tell you he's ruling over you for your good while his attendants point guns at you forcing you against your wish. My guy, they are all thieves only those having the upper hand stays on the seat of power!  Dialogue saves lives. Someone has to make those calls and walk those walks to bring the two groups together. U can't sit on the sidelines and say u r holy. Infact it is holy priest that should initiate such moves. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 8:58pm On May 13, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: Oh YES! You got this correctly! 
We do shun unrepentant wrongdoers in our midst. Nobody will say a greeting to him or her. And mind you the bond within the Organization surpasses family ties so we don't practice nepotism. Once you're excommunicated your name will be published at the meetings of JWs so nobody treats you as one of us again. Henceforth you're worse than Osama Bin Ladin or Adulf Hitler. But there is hope, if such a person feels bad about his/her actions and continue attending our meetings despite the shunning the elders will start to observe his/her attitude and if they discover he/she has truly repented then steps will be taken to reinstate him/her as a member of the global family this time around everyone will start to treat him/her the same way we treat all other members globally. An excommunicated member in Nigeria is excommunicated globally. Once he/she is excommunicated no JW will greet him/her once we know his/her condition. And once it has been announced that he/she has been reinstated the happy news goes round that our former disfellowshiped brother or sister has been reinstated! Go now and tell everyone out there that this one is the truth about Jehovah's Witnesses the rest are propaganda and false accusations!  The bolded clearly contradicts what the other JW said. Which is right? It is also what makes JW cult-like |
Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 8:52pm On May 13, 2021 |
Janosky: Achorladey proven his DUBIOUS character. Does this issues not happening in PrincessGlow's Church? Her post or comments is one sided. PrincessGlow claims she is a "devout Christian". If Achorladey loves objectivity & fairness, he would have asked PrincessGlow a simple question: Madam, are these issues not happening in your own Church? If Yes or no, show this forum the proof. Bros, no dey DECEIVE yourself. Bad thing na bad thing. JWs excommunicate rapists & abusers, yet you dey claim shunning them, Achorladey you're a wicked man ! Of coursr my church does. But I never claimed holier-than-thou for my church! Shunning and keeping members over-busy are what make JW cult-like. Catholic church even have people who give up everything to serve God (monks, friars, nuns, etc), at same time they have criminals. If u shun how will you reach them? U don't see them shunning |
Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 11:37am On May 13, 2021 |
ospido: MaxInDHouse Janosky
A "former" Jehovah's Witness involved in child pornography. How does that affect Jehovah's witnesses. He's no more a witness. Case closed
Bring More. Am waiting. Don't sleep o. What part of the underlined don't you unferstand?
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Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 11:32am On May 13, 2021 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 11:28am On May 13, 2021 |
Janosky: If that woman actually made that claim, That woman is not different from Jesus disciples at 1 Corinthians 15:12,17. Your Bible says her faith is useless.
The truth is not what anyone says or tells you. The truth is what you have proven to yourself to be truth. Therefore, you have to become a Jehovah's witness & have first hand experience, before you can actually determine if it's a cult, not depend on someone else's prejudiced prism.
Have you ever seen a man/lady who had an acrimonious break up, tell you his/her ex is the best person they ever had? JW is NOT a cult.
PrincessGlow,Your claim is FALSE. . See above |
Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 11:26am On May 13, 2021 |
ospido: MaxInDHouse
So what is the fuss about this? We don't ex-communicate anybody. Bros, it us NOT me saying these things. These are FACTS on record mostly provided by JW themselves. See below
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Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 11:10am On May 13, 2021 |
oaroloye: I give references, and do not pretend to have originated other people's ideas- unlike YOU- presenting RICHARD DAWKINS' stupid idea, as if it were your own. (I have only read to this part of your looong post. As I read more I'd respond more) I swear I have never read any book by Richard Dawkins nor do I know much about him. Everything I write here originated in my own thinking and seems obvious to me - by the time you are six 90% of your programming is complete - non of which you chose. The other 9.9% are further supplied by your environment and what you are exposed to - non of which you also chose! Seems quite obvious to ME. BTW I'm a devout Christian |
Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 11:34pm On May 12, 2021 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 11:17pm On May 12, 2021*. Modified: 11:32pm On May 12, 2021 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 11:07pm On May 12, 2021*. Modified: 11:31pm On May 12, 2021 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 10:37pm On May 12, 2021*. Modified: 10:52pm On May 12, 2021 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 10:17pm On May 12, 2021 |
[quote author=ospido post=101632579]MaxInDHouse See below
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Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 10:01pm On May 12, 2021 |
ospido: That is for his personality.
What about his religion as a group? Which religion is practicing true Love irrespective of race, gender, tribe, religion and so on?
Which is maintaining peaceful relations with humanity?
And which is joyful?
I have told you before and am telling you again that they are Jehovah's Witnesses.
Attend their meetings and see for yourself.&
Meanwhile you're yet to name any. Ive told you before, almost all cult-like Christian groups are like that - Mormons, Christendelphia, etc. Heck even tight Moslem sects are like thst |
Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 9:55pm On May 12, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: You don't need to advertise real peacemakers because they will come and meet you in your house for peace talks!  Peacemakers who stand by and watch war happen instead of actively negotiating for peace! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 9:52pm On May 12, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: You don't get it do you? A JW must not engage in physical assault talkless of doing so for pay, if Ali is fighting for money (which could lead to the death of his opponent) what stops him from pick up the gun to kill his enemies?  YOU don't get it. You don't have to engage in physical assault to kill people. If a set of people are paid to kill for you, you kill people |
Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 8:36pm On May 12, 2021 |
ospido: That was a very good one from Mohammed Ali.
But you know that the Nation of Islam is
1. A black supremacist hate group that promote racial prejudice towards white people
2. Anti-semitism
3. Anti-LGTB rhetoric and
4. They promote teachings that are not legitimately Islam.
Besides Mohammed Ali as a person loved violence. He was arrested at a point in time for driving violently. And God hates those who love violence. Exactly. So holier-than-thou abstaintion from military doesn't make u better than anyone else. So stop citing it. If anything it makes u worse - it marks u a hypocrite or, worse, a coward! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 8:16pm On May 12, 2021 |
MaxInDHouse: All these groups including you, what effort are they making to reach all people with their peace keeping? Remember JWs are knocking doors from house to house to make sure they reach everyone, that's why the world over even in your own village knows the JWs and what they stand for!  If only you knew. They are all making gigantic efforts and sacrifices, way beyond knocking on doors! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Satan Lied When He Claimed The Kingdoms Of The World Were His by PrincessGlow: 8:14pm On May 12, 2021 |
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