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MaxInDHouse:
It has not come to that nah!

True Christians Jehovah's Witnesses aren't interested in the situation of things now because we know it will continue to get worse by the second so don't think we love living in societies where we are not terrorized while our brothers are living in terrorized nations.
Whether there is relative peace where we live or not the truth remains that if all the people on this planet are JWs there will be no more weapons anywhere! Micah 4:1-3

My bros it is not only JW, it is a long list. See below. Even me myself, if all the people on this planet are like me there will be no more weapons anywhere!

ospido:
A Mormon can kill a fellow Mormon or any other person in times of war.
But a JW don't because they show un hypocritical love to members and non members alike.
Now you see the difference.

Muhammad Ali refused military service because his religion forbade it. His religion was Nation of Islam!

MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted is deceit my friend.
Taxes are meant to be paid not because the citizens love paying it but the rulers force them to pay. That's another topic on it's own.
For a citizen to participate in military services he/she must join in reciting the National Anthem heartily.
Note that this is not done by force like the tax that you pay whether you like it or not.
So there is a clear difference between participation and forceful concordance to rules!

But you love living in a society not overrun by Boko Haram or armed robbers. HYPOCRITE!

MaxInDHouse:
There are deeper things than just staying with people who share your beliefs.
Sango worshipers in Nigeria also stay with their fellow believers in Brazil but what about Satan's missiles that will certainly erupt like volcano in their midst?
You dodged that earlier so i'm asking you again, do they participate in:
©Military services
©National Anthem
©Politics
Because a member in Nigeria after reciting the National Anthem must pick up weapons to kill the enemies of Nigeria. So what happens to the members that happens to come from the enemy nation? Are they still safe in the hands of their PATRIOTIC fellow believer?

I answered it above even before u asked.
Here it is again, you keep hypocritically saying u don't participate in military:

Don't be fooled, not only do you participate in military service, you actually kill people. Except, you don't do it personally, you pay others to do it for you. That's what u r doing when you pay your taxes. But that's the only way in a world of lethally competing interests and ideas

MaxInDHouse:
So all these groups don't recite national anthem or participate in military services!

This is the time to think intelligently not just look at matters from one side!

Don't be fooled, not only do you participate in military service, you actually kill people. Except, you don't do it personally, you pay others to do it for you. That's what u r doing when you pay your taxes. But that's the only way in a world of lethally competing interests and ideas

oaroloye:
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[color=silver].[/color] DANIEL 12:10.
WE ALL EXIST ON EIGHT DYNAMIC LEVELS: OUR AWARENESS LEVELS DICTATE WHETHER WE COMMAND THE DYNAMICS, OR THEY COMMAND US.

BTW do u know that people who were there at the beginning swore that L. Ron Hubbard (whom u r parroting) was a con man, including his own son

ospido:
I don't know. You tell me.
Like i said earlier, it is only one religion that practice true Love.

They stay with fellow Mormons. Now you know. So does any tight-nit or cult-like Christian group

oaroloye:
GOD OVERWRITES ALL PREVIOUS PROGRAMMING TO WHAT HE WANTS.

So how does this tally with Adam and Eve story?

oaroloye:
SHALOM!




THE JEHOVAH'S WITLESSES^® LOVE ONLY THOSE WHO LOVE THEM.

Please note that LORD YESHUA did not love his Enemies- HE HAD EARNED THAT RIGHT.

JEHOVAH'S WITLESSES??

oaroloye:
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[color=silver].[/color] DANIEL 12:10.
WE ALL EXIST ON EIGHT DYNAMIC LEVELS: OUR AWARENESS LEVELS DICTATE WHETHER WE COMMAND THE DYNAMICS, OR THEY COMMAND US.

Yet you fail to see that the reason you are receptive to any of this at all is because of the programming you have. If you were born in Saudi Arabia or if u were a different type of person (none of which u chose) you'd laugh at all this.

BTW do you have any thoughts of your own at all or you are only capable of regurgitating things said by others?

ospido:
Have you been engulfed in cultism so much that you talk about nothing else but it?

There's no religious group.

Quote me anywhere.

Where do you think those Mormon missionaries stay when they go to remote places. Some Christian cults even live together and own everything communally

oaroloye:
SHALOM!



[b]THAT IS BULLSHIT: THE ULTIMATE PROGRAMMING IS TO KNOW GOD.

Point is, man is a programmed being. His seemingly freewill choices are pre-determined by things he never chose

MaxInDHouse:
For example.....

The following

MadeINchenzen2:
Mine: it happened 2005, I left an 18 months old relationship cause I thought she was damn too ugly and broke, few years later after we parted ways, I discovered she is the owner of a leading cosmetic brand and now looks so beautiful compared to current bae.

It's amazing what we can accomplish when motivated. Your dumping her was probably what motivated her. She was like, he will see!
Some disappointments are camouflaged blessings

SimplyShit:
First hand experience? But you said you never heard of it? You're confusing us

Mr grammar

He obviously meant first time experience

ospido:
JW's don't kill "infidels" to increase their numbers.
They preach love everywhere.
A Witness from Nigeria can go to any part of the world and will be housed by another Witness the moment he identifies himself as one.
I have experienced it first hand and i have also practiced it.
Remember,love is the identifying mark of true Christians.
John 13:35-
"By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.”

And love is the "first and greatest" commandment.
Matthew 12:30,31
30.....
31 The second is this, ‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”

Only JW's show this love on planet earth.

There are many Christian cults whose members from any part of the world will not only house another member from any part of the world but be willing to leave the house for them if they need!

COVID-19 is not a pandemic because there are countries it hardly affects - like Nigeria!!

That's why u have to be careful who u fight or push, you don't know how unhealthy people are.
RIP

** Guy below me totally ignores the topic, just wants to tell us that crime pays!

ospido:
Travel out for once and see what is obtainable outside.
This propaganda will not just fly.
JW's have increased from a few thousands in the 1870's to over 9Million in more than 245 countries.

So have muslims

ospido:
Just say that you and your likes are the ones branding them as cultists.
I have been to 9 European, 4 South American, 5 North America, 3 Asian and 15 African countries and Australia.
The way they're known here, that's how they're known elsewhere.
Get that fact.

Stop saying what u don't know. Just because you've been through a country doesn't mean u know what's up there. See below, screenshots if what people are saying

MaxInDHouse:
I know your type, when you see misinformed churchgoers you reason normally but when you come in contact with a real Christian you'll start arguing blindly!

Freewill is doctor, engineer, tailor, carpenter, lawyer: professionalism that has to do with choice.
People choose what they'll eat or drink, the type of person they'll marry, where they want to dwell on the surface of the planet and so on.
If Adam and Eve never sinned this would have been the situation till today but after the event in Eden humans became desperate to manage the limited time they had to acquire everything they want, that's why life is like this now.
God promised to bring back PARADISE so that we can continue to live with freewill again unlike now that circumstances shapen our thinking.
So learn from true Christians how God arranged everything before man decided to take God's place and brought hardship upon himself!

I only told you to walk through and show me where free will comes in. You couldn't. Ok, let me walk you through. Example, choice to become a doctor, what led to it:
1) How the person's brain works, how he thinks, his mindset, the type of person he is - which he did NOT choose
2) The type of genes he has - which he did NOT choose.
3) His birth circumstances and upbringing - which he did NOT choose
4) The type of parents he had - which he did NOT choose
5) The type of people and environment he was exposed to, growing up - which he did NOT choose

So you see, he appears to make a choice, when infact his choice was pre-determined by things he never chose.

ospido:
What you presented here is never a fact but propaganda.
I should be the one telling you what Jehovah's Witnesses had said in the past not any newspaper or any other source for that matter.
The Watchtower or Awake and other publications are there to refer to what the JW's have said in past.
If you're looking for the eye of a fish, you go to the head.

I mentioned earlier that the Witnesses NEVER said CATEGORICALLY that the world will end in 1975.
But some persons including your likes took what was said about 1975 to mean that the world will end that year.

So the question now is, what exactly was said about 1975?
See the attachments below and stop the propaganda.
What i presented here was published in the October 15,1966 Watchtower page 627 with the topic....Rejoicing over “God’s Sons of Liberty” Spiritual Feast, 9 years b4 the year 1975.
You can get the Watchtower on jw.org

Please after reading it, tell me where the falsehood you're spreading emanates from.

I don't know why u r fixated on 1975 when the JW have predicted other years, the biggest being 1914.
These are verbatim quotations:


Some specific predictions by Russell:

"And, with the end of A.D. 1914, what God calls Babylon, and what men call Christendom, will have passed away, as is already shown from prophecy." Studies In The Scriptures, Vol. III, (1897) 2
bullet "...we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished by the end of A.D. 1914" (1889). 3

bullet "In the coming 26 years, all present governments will be overthrown and dissolved." Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. II, (1889) 2
However, in 1912, he back-pedalled somewhat:

bullet "...he wrote that, while the prophecy remains valid, the power of the Gentiles could end either in October 1914 or in October 1915." 4
"Russell's movement expanded rapidly" in the years leading up to 1914. 1

However, the year 1914 came and passed without the visible appearance of Christ, the massive genocide, and the new Kingdom of God. The WTS regarded the start of the World War 1 as confirmation that the process leading to TEOTWAWKI, and to Christ's return, had started. They decided that 1914 was the year that Jesus invisibly began his rule from heaven.

1915, 1918, & 1920
In 1914-NOV, immediately after Russell's prophecy had failed, he wrote that the period of transition could run a "good many years." 4

The Watchtower magazine suggested that the destruction would happen "...shortly after 1914 with the utter destruction" of other Christian denominations and the inauguration of Christ's millennial reign. They first predicted that this would happen in 1915. Drawing a parallel with the destruction of Jerusalem by the Roman Army in 70 CE, the authors of the 1915 Edition of "The Time Is At Hand" wrote:

"The Gentile Times prove that the present governments must all be overthrown about the close of A.D. 1915; and Parallelism above shows that this period corresponds exactly with the year A.D. 70, which witnessed the completion of the downfall of the Jewish polity." 5

After Russell's death in 1916, the WTS rewrote large portions of his Studies in the Scriptures to reflect the new belief that the year 1914 was merely the beginning of the end of Gentile times. 4
The WTS later delayed the millennium to 1918. 6 A 1917 WTS publication, "The Finished Mystery" stated:

"...in the year 1918, when God destroys the churches wholesale and the church members by millions, it shall be that any that escape shall come to the works of Pastor Russell to learn the meaning of the downfall of Christianity." 7

That year also passed uneventfully, except for the end of World War I.

The WTS introduced the concept that Christ would establish his millennial kingdom on earth "before the generation who saw the events of 1914 passes away." With many humans achieving a life span of over 90 years, this could place the War of Armageddon at any time between 1914 and the early 21st century

Fetziny1:
There is this lady who got preg for me and flew, after given birth she called and we met, now trying to help take care of the child, so she wont grow with parents apart, i asked the lady to marry me and she said yes, now she moved in with me and am yet to go and pay her bride price, but now found out in this few months she is staying with me that she is sleeping around with different Men, she doesn't regard me as anybody and she doesn't respect me at all, but am thinking about the little cute girl. What should i do plz??

Simple. Marry her, be parents to the child, each of you doing his/her own thing. With time you may grow into each other

MaxInDHouse:
FREEWILL!

Ok, walk me through it: you are created and given a certain mindset and thinking faculty. You had no hand in choosing them but u must use them to make all your decisions - you can't override them. Explain to me, where exactly is the free will

MaxInDHouse:
You have no knowledge about human making so you're entitled to your personal opinion!



The truth of the matter is most of you only hear of Cultism but you don't know how real CULTISTS operates. It's the baby cultists in your Schools that you're using to quantify real CULTS!

Nope. Those things in school are gangs not cults. That's what they are called everywhere except Nigeria.
JW, Adventist, etc are mild cults unlike serious cults like Branch Davidians or Heavens Gate.

MaxInDHouse:
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BTW in Adam and Eve there is one big elephant everyone carefully ignores: how did Adam and Eve acquire a rebellious spirit

MaxInDHouse:
You're confused my friend!
There's nothing like programing in this matter, if man had the ability to do anything they'll just do it without hesitation. As for Adam and Eve it's written all over their faces just that unwise readers like you can't read the unsaid.

Adam blamed his Creator for giving him a wife {Genesis 3:12} and Eve blamed God for giving her life in the garden {Genesis 3:13} give them a million chance and they will ever continue to rebel only to later shift blame!



This shows how low your IQ, real CULTISTS will exterminate any member that tries to leave their caucus because they control all the connections. Jehovah's Witnesses only controls members which is only less than 9,000,000 out of about 9,000,000,000 inhabitants of this planet. So how do you think 1 out of 1,000 persons can make any difference when you choose to leave him and run into the midst of the thousand?
Moreover they don't believe in killing anyone and they're the most easygoing people on this planet, what influence do you think they could have?
My guy the truth is obvious. Many lawless people left the organization but they just can't find another happy family of peace loving worshipers elsewhere yet they want JWs to continue treating them like members of the global family whereas they don't want to live by the same standard guiding the family! Romans 16:17

So stop deceiving yourself, if some people brainwashed you to think peaceful and easygoing people are CULTISTS wake-up from you slumber my man! You've been thoroughly deceived!

U r programmed by your genes, how your brain works, your environment, etc. That's what the subconscious is - you programming. It is 30,000 times more powerful than your conscious mind. It is what determines who you are and you have no control over it.
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The main hallmark of cult is that they isolate you from the rest of society by consuming most of your time in the cults activities. So that all your life is in the cult:
if you ever dare leave you'd have no one. See below

MaxInDHouse:
So you're saying man should not be held accountable for his deeds, shey?
You're not making any sense walahi talahi, because if what you're trying to say is true then there won't be any need for this argument, you should simply agree that i'm the type that welcomes change when i feel it's not profitable to continue whereas you're the type that gives up and stop moving even when it's glaring that you're retrogressing!


Your old woman is tired of her faith nah, it doesn't mean everyone else should give up, if there's life outside JWs what stops her from leaving? John 6:68
Can't you see people committing suicide here and there?
Does that justifies suicide?

Man is programed. He constantly updates the programming as new experiences come. The reason he should be held accountable for his deeds and punished or rewarded for them is because that's the best way to update his programming.
Do you think if Adam and Eve had a 2nd chance they'd eat the fruit again??
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The old woman said they'd ostracized you and cut off all your social connections if you try to leave JW

MaxInDHouse:
It's like i should tell you a brief story about myself. A Muslim and soldier whose thought was to fight and defend his country as the most reasonable thing ever but all of a sudden began listening to JWs and now vowed never to raise up weapons against anyone no matter what happens. Guy you missed this one big time. There is nothing like predestination, people choose what they want to do with their lives.



I've met with real exjws as in a former missionary who was aspiring to become a member of the Governing Body of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES. My guy after a lengthy chat with this old man on Facebook messenger he burst into tears saying:

Stop! Stop!! Stop!!! You're making me cry!

Why?

I made him see what he's loosing if he will not return back to worship with God's people!

I'm sure u can see the sense in what I'm saying. You are just arguing. The TYPE OF PERSON you are, which you never chose, determined everything. If u were a different type of person u would have rejected JW and stayed with Islam. If u think deeply enough you'd realise man is basically an advanced robot.
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I watched a video of a 73 year old woman saying she no longer believed in JW teachings but had to stay because it was all her life. From what I hear, it is when you try to leave JW that you'd realise you joined a cult

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ospido:
Those people will not understand any of those things you're rightly telling them because in 2Cor. 4:4... Satan has blinded their minds.
One was talking of free will. And as you rightly said free will comes to play when you use your God given perceptive powers and reasoning to known right from wrong. This was what Adam failed to use properly.
But you have made your choice to become a servant of Jehovah. Well done.

Someone talked about JW making wrong predictions about the end of the world.
Well JW's at no time categorically said so. Even the apostles of Jesus thought so too in Acts 1:6, when they asked the question below.
6. "So when they had assembled, they asked him: “Lord, are you restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?”

Remember,some of the persons quoting you are apostates.

I've never had anything to do with JW. I am only stating FACTS everyone can see for themselves.

See my post above. Argue it with logic. Here again:

I don't know why you can't see that your thoughts and therefore your decisions and choices are based ENTIRELY on how your brain works, your genes, where you were born, the environment you were raised in, etc. NONE of which you chose. If any of those things were changed your choices would change. So your choices were pre-determined by things you never chose. So where's the free will?
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As for the rest, the apostles never gave end of world prediction based on a specific year. JW's did - many times. See below