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tpiar:
in case you are not current, look up the meaning of "a ti kaan mo agbelebu".

Yet when you look for his grave today, he is not there.

Does that tell you anything?


may God help you, you f.ool!

You this w.i.t.c.h, you won't leave this thread alone abi.

TonyeBarcanista:
The right to self-determination is never illegitimate anywhere. In fact, it is illegitimate to deny a people such right. Biafra is not a terrorist group nor an outlawed group. It is a name that a group of people choose to call themselves. Several other groups of similar interest abound like the Catalunya, Western Sahara and even Palestine. Equating the concept of biafra with terrorists group is faulty.

That said, please do understand that some of us are AGAINST the methodology of IPOB for being inciteful and employing illegitimate tool. But that doesn't make Biafra as a concept illegitimate. Truly, I don't share in Biafra ideology but at the same time it doesn't make it illegitimate. Allow these people to express themselves but censor hateful and inciteful content. This is exactly what Youtube, Facebook, twitter and other social network are doing. You don't gag views because some promoters employ uncivilised tool.

I honestly look forward to the moment where I'll be opportuned to engage promoters of Biafra in healthy and intellectual debate. That's what a society need.

For the record, nobody is happy with the present structure of Nigeria. As a Niger Deltan from Rivers state, our demand for True Federalism and fiscal autonomy is yet to see the light of day. Every other groups have their own unmet demands and feel marginalised...Including the North

So why did Kanu need weapons? Please let's be honest here.

Goodboiyy:
I just observed something today. Yoruba's re scared of Biafra.. Rule No. 9 is not acceptable...

Nobody is scared of Biafra, some of us are just tired of the hate from some of the Biafra supporters. If they want to discuss Biafra, they should go to their site and leave Nairaland for Nigerians.

If boko haram were discussing here on Nairaland and they were banned, would you have said the same thing? I mean Kanu went as far as sourcing for weapons. That is how terrorism starts.

itstpia8:
excuse me, ignore whatever you dont like as ileke Hd has been telling you.


If i did not address you return the favour, thanks.




which good and positive thoughts are those, if your friends are spamming the place with their nasty and negative thoughts you dont complain.


I am typing very civilly, what is your problem with that?

some things need to be straightened out inasmuch as some of you claim to be the mouthpiece for other people.

Can you stay away from this thread please?

You never make any valuable contribution. All you do is derail and attack people.

Seun and mods, why the close marking on this thread? We were doing just fine before and everyone was civil.

Why are you hiding people's comments? Why did you delete Zimoni's comment about hidden posts for example? Abi there is no freedom of speech again?

where is everyone? Aareonakakanfo, CabbieAC, Whathaveidone, ilekehd, shymm3x, katsumoto, terracotta, raudmeter, zimoni, 9jacrip et'al

Why have you all abandoned this thread? You people should please come back.

Aminat508:
Ekaabo. Omo ilu mi

Ese gan

shymm8x:
My bad, I actually thought you're from Kwara cos I saw you reference the state.

So where in the commonwealth are you from, Ms. Sunshine?

Osun

shymm8x:
Err, big aare, what are Yoruba chics from Kwara like, since that's where Princess Jane Doe is from?

I don't think I've ever met any Yoruba person from in real life.

But I know some "Yield" chic I used to chat to on here is from Kwara and she's quite intelligent.

Haha Shymm8x, I am not from Kwara.

shymm8x:
Loool.

We need to solve the mystery behind "PrincessJaneDoe" together.

Even the name is very fascinating - Jane Doe - me likey.

I shall remain mysterious, shymm8x

Seun:
I've spent more time looking at this thread. It truly started out as a political thread, but then people decided to change it into a thread for all things Yoruba, thus turning it into something that rationally belongs to the culture section. Since people feel strongly about having this thread in the Politics section, I thing the best thing we can do is to refocus it on the original purpose.

My humble proposal is to rename this thread as "Yoruba Political News Thread", move it back to the politics section, and put it on the home page. What do you think?

Also we will offer amnesty to most of those who broke rule 2 and rule 20 over the moving of this thread, but further violations will not be tolerated. I take responsibility for the politics section situation since I have not said anything to the moderators.

Seun, we have had to change the title of this thread a few times in the past just so that it stays in the politics section. The Igbo threads on the hand have been there for over a year and nobody has asked them to change the title or moved their threads.

The content of those threads is not in anyway different from ours. Why then do we have to be the only ones to bend? If you are going to enforce rules, the least you can do is to make it applicable to everyone.

This thread is the only reason some of us visit this site. It has even brought some old members back as we have all found something we are interested in, which is the advancement of our group.

Please do right by us and move our thread back to the politics section.

Cheers.

ProfShymex:
Aareonakakanfo

I think we should create a day where Yoruba folks from Kogi and Kwara will take charge of the thread and talk about their respective states and their plights, while we ask them questions. What do you think?

With that, they'll be able to educate those of us who don't know much about them and their states. I'll see if I can find the thread where I saw loads of Yorubas from Kogi repping Yoruba, and copy all the handles - so we can tag them. Then the likes of: mandarin, yemaldo, PrincessJaneDoe, and tevinsolt.

I am actually from Osun state

Katsumoto:






First you called me a girl and then you upgraded me to a Pa.

How did I offend you Iya? Kini mo se?


E jo ema binu. O ri idoba le ni mo wa.

Ha! ejo e di de o. You are one of the professors on here, so I thought to accord you your respect

IlekeHD:
Lmaooo

lol, I didn't even look at the moniker before responding. I was too eager to type my agreement.

Pa Kats, please accept my apologies

Katsumoto:
Why not 300%, heck why not 600%?

If his intention is to de-congest his state, he is at liberty to do that as long as he has the support of the voters in Rivers.

It is high time, everyone goes to develop their states and stop flooding into any state that is making progress. Let all citizens go and attack their reps and governors and demand accountability instead of protesting in another state. When Nigerians start demanding accountability from their LG because they are discriminated against in another LG, then Nigeria will start making progress.

There needs to be a radical paradigm shift for there to be progress.

Amen sister! I am with you on this one.

Shymm3x:
With the recurrent expenditure that's already running these states into the ground - how are you going to finance state policing?

The transition from national policing to state policing would be a well planned and gradual process if it were to ever happen.

The federal government currently has a budget allocated to defence and security. A portion of this goes into the police force and I would not expect this to stop simply because it is now managed at state level.

modath:
Ibebe, are you talking about utopia or a STATE in NIGERIA ??

Fashola deported Non Yoruba layabouts & his YORUBA kith & kin used it as cheap political tool against him..

Just pause for a moment to think of Ogun state University lmposing a "non indigene" levy on an ondo statr indigenious student, IT CAN'T EVER END WELL.

Ladies, I totally understand where you are both coming from. However, the governments can use the current debt/financial situation to their benefit. A lot of the states are running at a deficit which implies that they must cut expenditure and/or increase IGR to keep the states afloat.

This is what the senators and representatives ought to be discussing in their respective houses. I believe the state governments should only subsidise education, health care for indigenes or non-indigenes who pay tax to the state government.

Please explain to me why Osun state currently running at a 3b deficit should be subsidising the education of someone from Lagos, Enugu or Yobe if they are not contributing to Osun state's purse? It is madness and it is not sustainable. It is all about approach and diplomacy, it won't be a gra gra matter.

As an aside, I think our politicians need to find a way to reach the masses; make them feel like they are stakeholders in your government and that you understand their problems, let them understand the challenges facing the government; their plans to tackle them and how it will benefit their respective communities. If their intentions are truly honourable, they will have the support of the people e.g. Aregbesola.

Katsumoto:
Agitating for regionalism online won't do much good. The relationship between representatives (senate, house) and constituents is broken in Nigeria for many reasons. If people start to pressure their reps to push for Regionalism, then discussions can start. This is why I posited earlier that the issue is mainly leadership. Can the current Yoruba leadership not see these issues or is it that they don't care?



It would be unfair to introduce tax on bad roads. To tax roads, the government must first deliver good roads.

Sir, if they are ever going to implement this, it would be staggered process.

There are some good roads in the region and I believe the governments could start in these areas. The truth is a lot of individuals/communities already pay (privately) to repair their roads anyway. As long as the government spends the money on the upkeep of the road, I believe people will eventually come around.

Ibebe:
I beg to disagree. Even in tourism states like NY/Washington, shoit still happens and the possibility of criminal activities still exists. I wouldn't go walking around at 2am around here.

We need a good security system that people can rely on.

This is why I am a big fan of state policing.

Permit to think aloud and hopefully some of the veterans can correct me

Why can't our governments introduce road tax on state roads? e.g. Lekki toll

do indigenes and non-indigenes who do not reside in the state pay the same amount in state schools (primary - tertiary)?

Ditto state hospitals.

Ibebe:
Yep. Aareonakakanfo don turn to baba ibeji.

Expect him to be back in a few days.

Congratulations Aareonakakanfo! Oluwa a wo wun o

oduastates:
Merge O, Unmerge O, "Dismerge" O, or discharge.
Nothing will change.
Yes the tax collection system is archaic but in reality, Our people are already over taxed without any benefit.
Education trust fund tax ? We pay most of that as well while other states piggyback on our little allocation and social infrastructure.
Fact is the people are simply beating about the bush and denying the truth.
NO STATE,TOWN, CITY OR FARMING SETTLEMENT IN YORUBALAND IS UNVIABLE. THAT IS WHY THEY EXIST.
All of our cities were all viable city state before Nigeria. They remain so because of the way we organise ourselves, our culture and our values.
The western region was not organised as stated but as more compacts provinces.
The Ondo province
Akoko province
Ijebu province
Ekiti province
Abeokuta province
Benin province
Ife province.
Warri province
And so on.
The fact is that those provinces ensured even development of the homeland without swaddling us with the baggage of a useless FG and the expensive presidential system of government.
I some debates on tourism yesterday and I laughed.
We are never going to get a developed tourism industry without the peace dividend.
There will be no peace dividend as long as we remain in Nigeria.
Sorry to say, some people in Nigeria simply default to crime and violence.
Tourism alone has the capacity to feed the SW. Our people do not spare the change in order to indulge.We simply need to get out of the country first.

but the south west is relatively peaceful, do you not think we can capitalise on this re tourism? There aren't many people in the region clamouring for regionalism or secession, so in the meantime we must find a way to make the current system work for us.

I agree that we should look at regionalism or secession as a long term solution because the more development recorded in the SW, the higher the number of economic migrants from other parts of the country and we MUST have the power to control this.

Firefire:
And this your nonsensical post is about what ?

In summary, I am asking you to take your party BS elsewhere, we don't need it.

Find yourself a proper job or set up a viable business because power is not returning to PDP any time soon.

Firefire:


And what benefits were derived from Demeji Bankole's tenure?

And because you derived no benefit from Dimeji Bankole, you should sell your portion for a plate of 'Tuwo'

And what was the enthroned speaker in place of Mulikat Akande have to say about the next crowned speaker that flopped...

"Mr. Dogara is more competent, accommodating and more capable to lead than Mr. Gbajabiamila, Mr. Tambuwal said, and added “sentiments have to be put aside”.

http://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/188141-why-i-supported-dogara-for-speaker-gov-tambuwal.html



See our brother's comment thereafter... (By the order of the Lord Marshal...)

“When he contested the Speakership, this may sound vainglorious; I single-handedly pushed his (Tambuwal) Speakership bid, not to talk of his presidential bid. But he must have reasons for doing what he did” – Femi Gbajabiamila, on Channels TV, Wed, August 26, 2015.

E ni to ba ta ara ile re ni opo, ko le ri ra ni owan.

Can you please stop this nonsense? You have gone on and on about the ills of APC but haven't once proffered a solution to any of the issues plaguing us as a region. It is obvious you are more concerned about your party and in turn your pocket than you are about the Yoruba nation (that is if you are truly Yoruba). We don't need this here, please!

@iyalode, please ignore the anonimi character as he/she is not Yoruba.

@all, I have a few observations as I am one of the silent followers of this thread;

1. I saw that some of you took swipes at two popular posters (ar3sa and passingsh0t). In all honesty, I don't believe that was necessary. You don't win people over by insulting them plus a lot of people have multiple monikers on this board.

2. There are people who follow this thread religiously but do not contribute either because they do not know a lot about the politics in the south west or do not live in Nigeria and this thread serves as a place to learn. Therefore, when these people have a contrary opinion to most of the thread's contributors, can we please answer or state our case without insinuating that because they do not contribute often, they have no right to air their opinion.

Aareonakakanfo:
I think it's high time we start blessing the females here with titles.Princessjanedoe watch out for yours.I can see you viewing

I was hoping to sneak in without anyone noticing.

I am always on here reading and learning from everyone. This thread has been an eye opener for me.

Hmm...this is very optimistic but I don't think it is achievable.

My biggest gripe with Ambode's press statement is that he has an end date but hasn't successfully re-negotiated its funding yet. What if it falls through or negotiations take longer than he anticipates - another story again?

But Ambode, who told Reuters on Thursday that “by December 2016, the light rail should be delivered,” had earlier said a new funding arrangement was being worked out to speed up work on the project and get it ready next year[i][/i]

It is a very good initiative because it means people can live in the surrounding areas but work in Lagos which should hopefully de-congest it. Anyone know whether OIC, Oyo and/or Ogun governments are contributing to this?

I asked the other day what is stopping us from going back to a regional form of government. What do we need to do to get this? Also with a regional system of government, can we realistically control migration?

The biggest issue (and I believe Aare has touched on this) is that, no matter how well we develop our region under this current system, we have no control over the number of people who migrate to it. This will put a strain on our infrastructure, culture and way of life which we can't afford.

django1:
The aim of this thread just keep changing and getting worse. What is the meaning of this title now ehn?

The title is so that we include all Yorubas regardless of geographical location e.g. Diasporans, Kwarans and Kogi

Aare did ask for opinions before he changed it and no one spoke against the change or suggested title name.

shizzy7:
E kaaro ooo,
se dadá la ji?

Suggestion - In +100 pages we've talked about our progress so far, planned projects and those making us proud in the diaspora...
BUT
We still have a lot of problems which I think this thread should basically be about. I think its time we enumerate them and debate on possible suggestions to solving those we have the ability to solve(not necessarily about money).....
Besides Lagos, Oyo & Ogun I'm not so impressed with the rest of SW states, so far they've been developing in a snail pace....
whatwegonnado?

So what do you think we can do to empower these states?

Ekiti - Tourism (IlekeHD, any ideas?)

Osun - I think Agriculture and Tourism would be two options. The state government started OREAP which I think is a really good initiative but needs a lot of private investment.

OSUN RURAL ENTERPRISE & AGRICULTURE PROGRAMME

To achieve its agricultural development objectives, the State of Osun has designed and is implementing the Osun Rural Enterprise and Agriculture Program also known as O-REAP. Agriculture has been the main stay of Osun’s economy over the decades, especially since the giant strides made by the old Western Region Government. However, very little progress has been made over the years in building on this foundation to transform the economy of the State using agriculture as a driver. Due to a lack of focus in the agriculture sector, the gains achieved by the Western Region government have been gradually eroded. O-REAP is the State’s programme to achieve agriculture reformation and economic growth.

Vision

To make the State of Osun the food basket of the South West

Mission
Serve 10% of the Lagos food market

Strategic Objectives
◾Food Security
Increase the cultivation of arable crops such as maize, cassava, cowpea, vegetables, etc. for local consumption. This will ensure that food is available in the State of Osun in sufficient quantity and at affordable prices. It also ensures that the State is adequately protected against natural disasters such as drought; food shortages; and the vagaries of the market place such as price inflation.
◾Job Creation and Youth Empowerment
Create job opportunities for farmers through massive increase in agricultural production. Agribusiness opportunities will be created by linking farmers to consumer and industrial food markets for the selling of their produce. Their capacity to capture more value along the agricultural value chain will also be enhanced through the development of support schemes towards their participation in the establishment and operation of upstream and downstream ancillary agro-allied industries.
◾Economic Transformation Using Agriculture as a Key Driver
Leverage the comparative and competitive advantages of the State in agriculture to transform its economy. As a producer driven industry, the majority of farmers would fall into the category of small and medium scale enterprises (SME). SME’s have been known to be the driver of economic growth in several countries around world. They account for 90% of businesses and employ on average 50% of a nation’s workforce.
◾Wealth Creation
Increase household income for individuals engaged in the agriculture sector and other agro-allied industries. As farmers will now be part of the formal sector, O-REAP will also lead to an increase in the internally generated revenue of the State through the payment of taxes.


Source: http://osun.gov.ng/empowerment/oreap/

Shymm3x:
Lol.

Afam and Obino the [b]phaggot with receding hairline and face of a down syndrome patient [/b]are the two biggest culprits. The two bums always have an agenda. Inconsequential loafers.

https://popcrush.com/files/2012/10/jay.gif

You are so getting banned for this

itstpia8:
when using alternate ids, can you add your original id or whichever moniker is your favorite, to your comments, so others can know it's you.


if folks respond to your moniker without even knowing who it is, ileke and your other attack dogs will start getting worried and cranky because they"ll feel you're chatting with other people. Or you'll start developing wings because you feel someone is responding to your post.

so please add aok or something to your posts when you are not using that id, just for clarity.

thank you.

Not everybody automatically knows when you're posting under various user ids.

Asinwin! Were o le mo pe oun se bi were.

Ilekeh:
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Looks good

Whathaveidone:
Won tun ti da aareonakakanfo mi duro lehin igba to tu mii le.oro yi sumi.Afi ki ma wo yin loku bayii

Again? I am beginning to suspect foul play.

Ekale o gbogbo eni to ka tiredi yi.

Se e rope ale se ju ba sen se ni isiyin lo ri oro agbe? Emi ro pe ikan nu ona ta le fi pese ise fun awon odo ipinle wa ni.

Ki le ro si?