winner01:

I cant be the first christian telling you this, maybe you havent met many christians.
Garden of the Lord abi, so as people popularly call churches the House of God, churches are in Heaven abi So when the psalmist said "the earth is the Lord's and its fullness thereof", does this mean the earth is in Heaven
Where in those verses does the Bible mention Earth as a wasteland

people call the houses of God, but was it mere people that called Eden the garden of the lord? genesis said man was created from the dust(earth) and was TAKEN to Eden. taken? what does that imply? its not our earth anymore! talking about wastelands, didnt you see the verses i quoted about it, isaiah said you will be made deserts like EDEN(meaning its nothing compared to earth) and her wasteland will be changed to the garden of the lord, he was talking to the zions!! i will answer your question only if you answer my questions with valid proofs.

winner01:
Pls try as much as possible not to twist scriptures by copying and paste from the internet.
matt 19:27 Then Peter said to Him, "Behold, we have left everything and followed You; what then will there be for us?" 28 And Jesus said to them, "Truly I say to you, that you who have followed Me, in the regeneration when the Son of Man will sit on His glorious throne, you also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. 29 "And everyone who has left houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or wife or farms for My name's sake, will receive many times as much, and will inherit eternal life.…

Notice the use of the word wife Not 72 virgins.

making a typo error does not mean i copied and pasted, i do 95% of my research on my own thats BTW my point there is, why have wives in hundred folds in HEAVEN! my initial argument is with your statement that there is no physical pleasure in heaven.

@winner01 the garden of eden is not paradise(one of the gardens in paradise) according to the bible too? you are the first xtian telling me this, check out isaiah51:3, ezekiel28:3, ezekiel31:9 all the given verses talks of eden as the garden of God, what does it imply? talking about earth being the worst place God created, maybe i should quote isaiah51:3 "the lord will surely comfort zion, and look with compassion on all her ruins, he will make her derserts like eden, her wastelands, like the garden of the lord,........" what does wasteland means? maybe i should also quote joel2:3 "before them fire devours, behind them fire flames, before them the land is like the garden of eden, behind them a desert waste........" in this case our earth was likened to the garden of eden as opposites, and our earth was called a desert waste! what does this imply, so you see our earth is the worst and lowest place God created according to your book!

@winner01 talking about having wives in heaven, lets analyze this bible verse:Mathew17:28-29 "And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life". so you see that after resurrection and judgement, the true believers will have wives, children and so on, in hundred folds on like normal humans.

@winner01 let me ask these 3 questions. (1)when God created adam and eve, they had genitals for reproduction in HEAVEN(garden of eden), why did God did so? (2) why did adam had a mate in HEAVEN at the first place (3) since eve was the wife of adam in HEAVEN, what do husbands and wives do? give me one logical reason why they couldnt have had sex in HEAVEN before they were thrown out. eve was supposed to be the MOTHER of many in HEAVEN, but because of their disobedience she became the mother of many on the waste land, which is our earth! which means EDEN is a physical place just as earth, but earth is the worst place God created(according to your book). when you are judged and you earn heaven you will still be a human, not as matt22:28-29 says we will not be married in heaven and we will be like angels which clearly contradicts genesis where adam and eve were married in heaven! we will be humans but our characteristics of sinning wont be there!(i think thats what your bible means by glorified bodies)! gudmawin!

malvisguy212:
i am the only one involved in posting lies. maybe i should read my topics before i say such nonsense.

carry on guy!

malvisguy212:
i am the only one involved in posting lies . maybe i should read my topics before i say such nonsense.

carry on guy!

truthman2012:


What is the meaning of this?

You can be proud worshiping allahh, an arabian idol just like osun, ogun, sango etc are proud worshiping their idols.

What is the big deal in worshiping a false god?

ehn ehn, so this old man that wont respect himself gat the guts to quote me! we've had encounter in the past, and you got scared of quoting me, think of it, who might this be?

winner01:
I dont argue with muslims most of the time cos i have most of them as relatives........however ive discussed with some of them on the issue of 72 virgins....
God is a spirit as they also believe, and when one dies the flesh goes to dust, the soul and spirit goes to heaven.....Now the big question is since spirits exists as neither male nor female, do spirits also have sex with each other ......many of them get dumbfounded at this point.

when you get resurrected, are you still a spirit?

malvisguy212:
trying to help the innocent solve the problem of evil.

why not help the atheist that left your religion

proudmuslim2015 is here

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