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hulk616:
yes he deserves more credit but as I said before Tony death and captain America overshadowed him

Not in my eyes tho...iron man can die for all i care and cap can geddifok with his silly american ass

I only wanna see thor and antman from now on...maybe banner a lil bit

waywardpikin:
Yeah that worm went down one time. The final act was badass. I found the first act intriguing, felt a little tired around the second act cos it was mad late. But by the final act my eyes were wide open. Left the cinema around 1:30am. The 3 hour runtime no be small tin o

Geez are u serious? Wow...ive never seen a movie that late....i left around 9 all of you that watched that night tried o

waywardpikin:
Lol antman was a boss in this one. I dare say he was the/an MVP because he rallied the troops when all hope was lost.

And all hope was fùcking lost, Thor being the personification of said shìt. Pardon my Latin.

Yea thats what i was telling hulk616...the man deserves more credit...him and that stray rat
Plus he k.oed that mechanical flying worm with one punch and just stepped on that guy that was beating ironman and spiderman in infinity war...mad awesome

MrDojo:
Yes, I know. But he lost like a beast, not like a pussy. I don't know if you get what I'm saying.

But wait how was hulk made to look weak in endgame?

That snap was a great feat if you ask me and he has healing abilities soo expect his arm to be back to normal in no time plus he also held up the wreckage with one good arm before antman came and rescued them

Speaking of antman...he also had interesting feats on the power scale too

hulk616:
experience is key

Lol...once bitten forever shy

hulk616:
1.2 billion dollars

Duh...it was expected

TheKingIsHere:
Lol.

I know we will bounce back. With patience and time, all will be great with DC again

Yea...with shazam and aquaman both punching above their weight i believe so

hulk616:
Dc fans ....SMH

What happen??

hulk616:
Google it posting links and pictures usually get me banned

No fear...gimme link nothing will happen

hulk616:
that is what those DC writers established in their stories go and read them

Gimme link to them

hulk616:
Nooo

Ur brain done full

hulk616:
if you read the button by Joshua Williamson, the rebirth by Geoff Johns, wedding gifts by Tom king, current Doomsday clock, Mr Oz in Superman you will see the error in flashpoint that they corrected in 2015-2017 which is what endgame did.
That's the reason I compared flashpoint and endgame because I can't use those corrections in favor of endgame

I didnt say flashpoint was perfect with their time shenanigans(you can never be) im just saying it feels more legit than saying you cant change the future by going to the past(endgame)

hulk616:
not time loop

Dont you get? It will be a time loop cos everything will keep reoeating itself...think about it

larride:
How?

Il prefer us not to get into that right now...

hulk616:
Yes and in 2023 the avengers reverse the snap

Wait...hold on...now ure bringing possibilities of a time loop with this

Man im done...till someone actually invents a time travel machine in real life

larride:
iuwe is using the time travel in Flashpoint as the standard which time travel must adhere to and he’s wrong.

Even the time travel in Flashpoint is flawed. The moment you go back in time to change the past, the future you come from cease to exist. That means when Barry saved his mother from dieing, Flash seize to exist and there’s no future for him to return too as he has changed the course his entire life will follow.

Flashpoints time travel had more consequences and feels more realistic than endgames own

larride:
That’s one plot hole I can’t understand. I’ve been trying to understand what happened.

Maybe they just wanted to retire Cap by fire by force.

Thats what im saying...they just followed their set uo time rule when its convenient and then make some stuff uop when backed into a corner...

I cant hold them tho cos no one has actually time travelled

hulk616:
good question, captain America not returning back at the ending has created another timeline so there are two timelines in the MCU now.
So Loki , fantastic four, X-Men, etc can come from there.
Same gamora is dead, there are ways to get her back e.g visiting death herself

Lol...again ure contradicting urself...i just want you to agree that going with the endgame theory of nothing can be changed it means that thanos will still get the stones and do his thing

larride:
They were consistent with their time rules though, you have to give it to them.

Prof Hulk said you can’t change the past and they stick to it.

They tried but they entangled the whole thing at some points...

Im just nit picking tho...the movie was great and i enjoyed it im just backing iuwe up

hulk616:
No Thanos in the main MCU timeline is dead killed at the beginning of the movie, thanos killed at the end he's from another reality.

I will say again the main MCU timeline is unchanged!!!!!

If the mcu timeline is unchanged what the hell happened to cap? Is he not meant to be unchenged too since he kept the stone back?

hulk616:
the timeline of MCU cant be changed so Loki, gamora are dead . The Loki that escaped was in another reality and that reality has been erased

Lol how come finding gamora is part of the plot for gotg3? And loki is getting a tvseries spinoff

larride:


It’s obvious you just want to argue unnecessarily.

I ask you a simple question, why is Asgard still destroyed? How come those that were snapped back to life remembered what happened before th snap?

Answer me.

Lol...i dont want to argue unnecessarily

Im just saying they made up a whole bunch of time rules that suited them and followed it only when it was convenient...dazol im saying man...

hulk616:
yes and the MCU timeline is unaffected

So you agree there is still a roaming free thanos

hulk616:
Loki is dead because that reality was erased

Lol...you cant prove that(space stone and loki=possibilities)

And what about gamora?

larride:
Loki is dead bro.

Gamora remains dead also.

Where do you think Gamora disappeared too?

Why does Asgard remain destroyed?

Dr. Strange, Spider-Man and the rest remembered what happened before the snap. How is that possible?

The timeline in MCU is fixed. They don’t go about changing the future from the past. Everything that happened before Endgame still happened. They went to the past to take the stone to undo the snap, they didn’t go to the past to stop Thanos from getting the stones. That’s why when they undo the snap, they went back to return the stones to where they took it so everything still went ahead the way it went.

Pay attention to details.

Gamora and loki didnt die...loki escaped with a freaking space stone bruh and gamora ran away....quill is going to look for her...ur theory shoots itself right in the foot

hulk616:
try to read my previous posts. I have been saying it that captain America returning the stones erases the other realities created e.g the reality thanos came from

It erases the other realities now(like when quill did not find the power stone or when the eather was stolen from janes butt)but it cant erase the past or future....hence quill still got the power stone..the eather was still in jane and dark world happened and mr thanos is still gathering stones as we speak...

philfearon:
You are actually very correct... This is the problem why time travel is not good in movies, not even as a plot armour/deux ex machina...

In 2012, at the battle of New York, Loki stole the Space Stone and disappeared after the team travelled back in time. So, Iron Man and Captain America travelled way back in time to get it in 1970.
So, you are absolutely correct.

Thank you....finally someone gets it

stapes:
you guys are both right going by different standards.
the thing is, nobody has ever time travelled, so there is no universal rule or standard for it,it's just all imagination.

the problem with this argument is "iuwe" is using the flashpoint's rule of time travel to judge EG time travel.
from what I could deduce from the hulk's explanation,EG time is fixed, nothing you do can and will not change what has already happen in the MCU since 2008, that's why rhodey suggestion they go and kill baby thanos would not work.

let's say after the event of EG, the team travel back to 2015 of their reality,(note: the 2014 MCU thanos is dusted) there would still be a 2015 MCU thanos.
MAIN THING IS THE MCU TIMELINE (the one we've been seeing since 2008) IS CEMENTED AND NOTHING CAN AND WILL CHANGE IT

And that is the plot hole im trying to point out and where i think iuwe was coming from....im cool with the movie tho..the spectacle makes you forget all these holes and stuff ...and THOR

larride:
No. The future did not change.

Asgard still remain destroyed

Loki remain dead

Those that was snapped back to life remembered what happened before the snap.

The future did not change. Pay attention when watching movies pls.

Loki cant remain dead cos he clearly escaped with the tesseract....

Going by this ur theory that means gamora would also remain dead

hulk616:
yes everything that happened since 2008 still happened, but that thanos snapped out in endgame was from another reality. Now that reality will be without thanos but captain America returning all the stones Automatically erases those reality created

If returning the stones to where thanos isnt(cos he is already dead twice) will change the reality back to how it was doesnt it mean that thanos will still be there in the past gathering the stones which means infinity war was going to happen allover again hence defeating the purpose of everything

larride:
No. It seems the guy is just arguing for arguing sake.

When the Avengers went back in time to get the stones, their aim is to undo the snap and bring back those that Thanos wished away. Thanos is already dead at the beginning so undoing the snap won’t bring Thanos back.

The timeline in Endgame is the current timeline, all other timelines are alternative timelines. Prof Hulk already said you can’t go back in time to change the past because the future is set already.

If Thanos 2014 had not find Nebula 2023 and she opened the portal for him to come to 2023, Thanos would still have gotten the stones and wipe out half of the world and in 2018 the avengers undo the snap in 2023. Going back in time doesn’t change the past.

When Thanos 2014 came to the main timeline 2023, he had no idea of whatever he had done before except for what he heard on Nebula memory scan.

That is why after Hulk used the stone to wish away Thanos and his army, the timeline remained the same. Asgard still remain destroyed, Loki still remain dead. The only difference was that those that was snapped away came back but they had the memory that something happened and they were turned to dust.

The time travel makes sense and realistic.

Lol...this one has turned everything on its head read what you typed again man