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You don't have to agree with me.

You don't even have to do it.

But unless, you've attained that level, where you can access girls so easily and get the job done conveniently, as often as you like, you would soon find Konji pushing you to do things that betray who you are. Then you would at least have an idea of what you need to change, because you stumbled upon this post. This is essence of that article.

KingEarnest:
Masturbation is for losers.

Why advocating for masturbation on a redpill thread? Why not self-control?

Because that's the key to unlocking consistent mental clarity, unless you have an endless supply of healthy women, which 90% of men do not have.

It is incredibly hard to stay true to RedPill teachings consistently if you're always Hot.
You may try. You may build systems to discourage yourself, but eventually you'd do it again. And even if you don't, you would find yourself simping sooner or later.

Just like other topics society frowns upon, this is another Redpill, actually a critical one required to reach the peak of Redpill spirituality. You can't claim to be redpilled, and say you only want to take the most comfortable of the pills.

Condemning masturbation is denying sexual tension.
But no matter how much you deny it, nature would always prevail.
You are better off finding a way to work with nature, than trying to fight it.

KingEarnest:
Bullshit!!!

Read this:
https://www.nairaland.com/7995872/how-tricked-myself-never-masturbate
https://www.nairaland.com/7977487/see-reason-why-cant-stop

These references say nothing tangible about what I posted.

What I see in the above articles is a guy sharing his Journey on how he quit masturbation. I don't see how that counters my argument? Was your post just a knee-jerk reaction from your brainwashing, or do you really have something to say?

The guy masturbated for pleasure, which I spoke against. Did you not read that?

Maybe it's a good thing to quit, for someone in his position, but how good has the quality of his decisions been as regards women.

Some of you are always eager to condemn masturbation, but hardly with logical reasons. The same people who condemn masturbation are the same ones who SIMP for every woman they interact with. Will Smith was also a strong advocate against masturbation, yet look at him. You guys are the ones your wives beat down like dogs, but think you are qualified to voice opinions.

Don't Masturbate: A Dogma from People You Least Want to Emulate

The saying, "Don't Masturbate", is a saying you must have heard by now. On this thread, there are countless instances. On YouTube, there are countless instances. Your pastor and imams must have also promised all masturbators hell. I could go on, but you get the gist.

Like many of you, I stayed away from this act for almost as long as I have been alive. I didn't want that disdainful look if I was ever known to be a masturbator, I stayed away from it. Many of us can't understand why it is wrong, but we all just stay away from it, to avoid disdain from society.

If you ask the people who espouse the idea, "Why is masturbation wrong?", you'd get one of the following answers:

1: God Frows At It
Holier-than-thous can't wait to espouse how their religion is against masturbation, yet they are never able to provide a reference in any of their Holy books.

Your pastor would say masturbators are going to hell, but if you ask for a reference in the bible, he would ask what authority you have to question him. In fact, you may become a scapegoat and an outcast in your church.

2: It Would Destroy You
This is another bullshit. You will see why I said this.

Religion and Masturbation
I have researched both Christianity and Islam countlessly, but have never found any valid argument against Masturbation. Just in case, I was the one missing the depth of available research materials, I decided to use one of these AI assistants.

Question
Is the Quran against Masturbation?

Answer
The Quran does not explicitly mention masturbation. However, Islamic scholars and interpreters have debated and discussed the topic, and some have derived guidance from related verses and hadiths (sayings and actions of the Prophet Muhammad).

Some scholars consider masturbation to be makruh (disapproved or reprehensible) but not haram (forbidden). Others view it as a minor sin or a sign of weakness.

The Quran does encourage Muslims to maintain chastity and modesty (e.g., Surah Al-Isra' 17:32, Surah Al-Ahzab 33:35) and to seek marriage as a means of fulfilling sexual desires (e.g., Surah An-Nisa' 4:3). However, it is crucial to note that Islam prioritizes compassion, mercy, and self-awareness, and individuals are encouraged to seek guidance from qualified scholars or counselors if they struggle with sexual desires or behaviors.

Remember that Islamic interpretations can vary, and it's essential to approach these topics with sensitivity and respect for diverse perspectives.

Question
Is the Bible against Masturbation?

Answer
The Bible does not explicitly mention masturbation. However, some interpretations of certain passages have led to various perspectives on the topic. Here are a few examples:

1. Genesis 38:9-10: The story of Onan, who "spilled his seed on the ground" to avoid fathering a child, has sometimes been linked to masturbation. However, this interpretation is debated among scholars.

2. Matthew 5:27-28: Jesus teaches about lust and adultery in one's heart, which some have extended to include masturbation. However, this connection is not universally accepted.

3. 1 Corinthians 6:18-20: The apostle Paul writes about fleeing sexual immorality and honoring God with one's body. Some have applied this to masturbation, while others see it as addressing sexual relationships and exploitation.

It's essential to note that the Bible's focus is on promoting healthy relationships, self-control, and respect for one's body as a temple of the Holy Spirit. Different Christian traditions and interpretations may have varying views on masturbation, and individuals often hold personal beliefs based on their understanding of scripture and spiritual guidance.

Just like our AI assistant has provided, the Holy books never directly or in a logically implied manner admonish against masturbation.

Islam talks about just chastity and modesty. But when asked about masturbation, because the Quran didn't say anything about it, clerics would rather consider masturbation a bad act, based on their limited personal understanding. To an extent, I don't blame some, but the ones arrogant about the claim are the biggest problems.

Islam also asks, "... seek marriage as a means of fulfilling sexual desires ....". When someone says "Do X", it doesn't mean Y is forbidden.

The Bible referenced "Onan, who spilled his seed on the ground ...". This is nowhere close to a clear-cut admonition against masturbation.

In addition, the bible preaches against "lust and adultery". Anyone who tries to pass off masturbation as lust or adultery has likely never read the meaning of lust and adultery.

Futhermore, the Bible also made reference to, "... apostle Paul writes about fleeing sexual immorality and honoring God with one's body.". Masturbation isn't sexual intercourse, and any attempt to classify it under sexual immorality is just outrightly dumb.

Dangers of Not Masturbation in this Modern World
Yeah, you read that title right.

You see, we live in a modern world, or maybe I should say, a world very distant from the past.

In past times, women dressed modestly. Muslim and Christian women were well-known for their modest dressings. Even the ones who were not so religious dressed impressively modestly.

In present times, the average woman at best, puts on tempting, semi-revealing, and tight-fitting dresses. We now see 10% of their bosom. We now see the delicate curves of their body. We now see how soft their boobs are. When they run, we now see how their soft and succulent boobs dance. We now see their elegantly shaped bums. We now see the perfect sizes of their cup breasts. We now see their pant lines. We now see the delicate skin of their neck. All that, just for the average woman.

It gets worse for the other 30 - 40%. We get to see their entire breasts, through a joke called (see-through) net. If you go to the beach, you see full bum bums. In fact, you now see a woman's completely stark underbody at places like the beach. The only thing you probably haven't started seeing publicly are the entrances of their vaginas. Every other thing is readily available everywhere you go?

Is this a good or bad thing? I don't know, and that is not what this article is about.

My point is, we now live in a vastly different world. We now live in a world, where the sexual desire of the average man is stimulated to its peak, continuously for almost through out the day. Even if you decide not to go outside, your TVs are now heavily sexualized. The internet is now heavily sexualized. Even our churches have become hotspots for satisfying our eyes with women dressed sexually temptingly. The mosques are not an exception. There isn't just anywhere to run to. Whether you like it or not, you will be sexually stimulated. Sexual tension (Boner/Konji) or whatever you want to call it, would be forced down your throat.

Unless for guys having regular sex, the average man on the road is a Hot he-goat, maybe just a quiet one. You don't believe me? Make a girl approach a random guy on the road, tell him, if he slaps anyone on the road, she would allow him Bleep her. Wait and see how many slaps would go around, and eventually how many guys would line up for Bleep.

If sexual tension was a mild feeling that can be easily subdued, this whole situation wouldn't have been a problem. If anything, sexual impulse is an extremely powerful force. That thing called konji has made countless men do things, even they could not believe. Ask men around the world, if they wouldn't be ashamed and sincere, 98% would narrate at least one experience of how konji made them do things they wish they never did.

Konji is real. It is real and very crazy. It is real as God (for those who believe in God). In fact, certain scholars go as far as saying sexual tension is what drives the world economy: every man just wants to Bleep - not entirely true, but significantly true. This thing is so powerful, the moment surplus starts to build up in a man, you have to get it out of your system as soon as you can. You try to control it, but like fire in a bedroom, you are in control until something crazy happens.

I could share my personal experience. I was a man trying to be a decent human being. There was a point in my life when I wasn't having sex. The women I was around then expected a man to bow to them to get the coochie. My ego wouldn't let me. I also didn't want to masturbate, I didn't want to be sneered for being a masturbator.

I stepped out every day, to carry out my daily activities, but I found I was always already sexually stimulated by the time I got back home.

The powerful force kept building up inside of me and there was no way to dissipate it. Heat a wood enough, and it would burn. Heat a metal enough, and it will melt. Heat Diamond enough, and it will melt. Heat steel enough, and it would melt. And that is exactly what happened to me. I soon found myself in a spiral of events that almost led to a point of no return. I had grace and extreme luck, for my life would have been in a mess right now. It was at this point I decide things had to change and I couldn't keep going like this.

My story isn't unique. There is a sea of men who have gone through or going through similar experiences, with consequences of varying degrees. I'm not justifying any of these acts, but we have all heard of stories of grandpas abusing 5-year-old babies, stories of guys raping girls, stories of brothers sleeping with sisters, stories of fathers sleeping with daughters, stories of teachers sleeping with students, stories of guys whose careers were ruined because konji got the better of them.

It always doesn't manifest in just the form above. Sometimes, it manifests in the form of beaten-down husbands and boyfriends. The wife/girlfriend finds how helpless her man can be when he needs sex, then she weaponizes it. She gives him sex when he does something good and withholds the sex when she disapproves of something, like a dog trainer training a dog. The man, fearing the consequences or not even having an option, surrenders and becomes a docile sheep that does whatever madam says and wants. This is why you sometimes see strong men become caricatures of themselves when they get into relationships. Konji is real.

It sometimes manifests in the form of anger. Look at men (and women) who are always angry for no reason, you would often find they have never had sex or haven't had sex in a very long time. These are the kind who go ahead to shoot schools down, stalk and murder women, and troll on social media.

People would try to make you seem weak for being unable to control konji. They would try to make you seem less. These guys are hypocrites who are getting sex often and can not relate. Also, some chronically masturbate, and shame other men who do. And truly, some don't get sex often and also don't masturbate, but look at their lives, they are often the people you least want to be like. Will Smith is an example. The boy once made a video of how terrible masturbation is, but Will Smith should be the last person trying to be an example for other men.

Closing
Konji is real. It is a crazy force. Before it ruins you, get hold of it.

You don't want to lack it, but even more importantly, you don't want too much in your system for a prolonged period. Konji is an essential ingredient in a passionate man's system. It is what makes men work hard and grind the hell out of work. In other words, it is needed, but when you are done using it for what you need it for, you want to expel it from your system as soon as possible.

The frequency and time of expulsion would depend on you. Personally, when I wake up, I go to work, and grind the hell out. But as soon as I am back, I expel that shit out of my system, unless mama is coming over for the night.

When I sleep at night, my body secretes fresh one, and the cycle repeats.

The first step to becoming a man with great mental clarity is being able to manage your konji levels. You don't want to have an excess or stale semen in your system for a prolonged period.

If you have a girl or woman to help relieve you of this energy, great. But when a female isn't around, be proud to help yourself.

So brother, head over to that store, find the most refined cream you can lay your hands on, and konj/stroke konji out of your system.

Be proud. Don't let any mother fucker shame you for choosing to have mental clarity. If you can't afford a cream, a bar soap works too. Soaked detergent or even bare-hand also work, although not recommended.

This is my BUT, a big B BUT actually. Never use masturbation for pleasure. There is a difference between using it to maintain your energy level and just using it whenever you feel like. Like all addictions, masturbation addiction is also bad. When masturbation becomes a tool of pleasure (instead of being a tool to keep your mental clarity), you soon start doing it too often, and that is where the problem begins. Just like too much water can kill you, too much masturbation is also detrimental.

Usually, once a day, is enough. At times, you need it twice. Experiment to find out what frequency and time work best for you.

In closing, Masturbation is an absolutely essential tool in the kit of every man looking to attain mental clarity and logical maturity. Even for men with relationships, it shatters whatever pussy power a woman thinks she holds over you. When she knows, your hand could do the job if she refuses, she would have less incentive to misbehave and think she holds any special power over you.

Once again, Masturbation is an absolutely essential tool in the kit of every modern man. Your true moral, masculinity, career, or even life may never survive without it. Be proud to be a masturbator. I am proud to be a masturbator.

Can someone share us a GIF of that Ronaldo masturbation goal celebration? The man has been trying to pass you guys a message.

qbqetell:
There are certain posts that should be pinned to the top of this thread.
This is one of them.

There are some people on here with the pickup artist mindset trying to disguise as RedPill.
RedPill isn't PUA. Let me repeat that, RedPill isn't PUA.
They are not even similiar.

Like I once said, for those of you learning, one the abilities you would find most helpful while consuming this thread is the ability to filter true contents from wannabes.

It's good to share. We encourage it.
But if you're going to come here trying to prove know-it-all, then you had better know it all.

Even though we are trying to help other men navigating the inter-sexual dynamic, let's not sell PUA as RedPill.

Paul Elam addresses this exact same kind of issue here:
PUA - Thy Frame is Lame:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xoj2SoDXrLA&pp=ygUbcGF1bCBlbGFtIHRoeSBmcmFtZSBpcyBsYW1l

Pukkalolo:
This is one reason why I usually frown on the idea of passing a female shit test because it create weak ideas like the one you have now.

First of....one thing you should know is that the person giving the shit test has higher status and authority. While the person passing the shit test has lower status. It doesn't matter if the person is passing the shit test in a alpha or nice guy way.

Look, the goal isn't to pass her shit test; the goal is to put an end to the shit test ASAP, and prevent it from happening again.

For example, when a student shit test his teacher by misbehaving, the teacher sees it as a sign of disrespect. The teacher knows he must put an end to the shit test. So he quickly asset dominance by punishing or flogging the hell out of the students.

If the Boss sees that the staff is making attempts to shit test him, he will quickly asset dominance by giving him a query, suspension or sack letter.

Using the definition of shit test you gave...
"A shit test is a challenge or obstacle that is intentionally designed to test your confidence or resolve, a test to gauge your strength."

That's an excellent definition, but you screw it with very poor examples...

For example,

She: "You’re short.”

You: “I won’t be, when you’re on your knees”

If you're a game junkie, that would seem like a dope comeback response. But what you don't realize there is that, the lady just insulted you.

If a student tells his teacher "you're short", the teacher will take that has an insult and quickly asset dominance by punishing or flogging the shit out of the students.

If a staff tell his Boss, "you are short", the no-nonsense Boss will will quickly asset dominance by giving the staff a query, suspension or sack letter.

The teacher or Boss quickly place punishment in order to prevent that shit from repeating itself.

But there you are.....a woman insulted you by saying, "You’re short."

Instead of disapproving her immedately, you ignorantly fuel her ego her by responding with, “I won’t be, when you’re on your knees,”

Now, she's thinking, "Wait...I just insulted this guy by saying "he's short." Instead of him disapproving my rudeness, he's there still nursing the idea of me giving him bl*w job. It's
a pity. Men are just so desperate for sex."

As a result, this will fuel her ego, and so she'll feels more entitled; then the back and forth verbal spar will continue bitterly:

She: "You’re short.”

You: “I won’t be, when you’re on your knees”

She: "Ok, maybe in your dreams. Keep deceiving yourself. ”

You: (your dope response in an attempt to pass her shit test).

She: (you fuel her ego further, and she feels more entitled...she mockingly responds again )

You and her continue in the verbal spar back and forth, trying to out wit or dominate each other. This will continue for hours, days, weeks, month. The interaction will probably lead to nowhere, and you will still not Bleep her despite your efforts.

Why?

Because, a woman going back and forth with you in a verbal spar is usually a sign that she doesn't respect you or appreciate your presence.

That’s because for a woman to effectively verbally spar back and forth with you, she needs to feel that you got the time to take her bullshit.

And when a woman feels that you got the time to take her bullshit, she doesn’t respect or appreciate your presence.

When a woman is genuinely into you or respect you, she’s very often nervous around you, unsure of herself and careful with her words. Women only go back and forth in verbal spar with men they aren’t really into.

The reason going back and forth verbally doesn’t work is because she immediately assume you and her are equal. Remember, women don't want to Bleep a man who's below her or equal to her; they prefer to date or Bleep a guy who has higher value/authority than her.

When she say, "You’re short.”...with your response: “I won’t be, when you’re on your knees.”

She immediately can tell you got the time and availability to eat her bullshit. As a result this give her more opportunity to throw more shit at you.

Like I said, the goal isn't to pass her shit test; the goal is to put an end to the shit immediately. That's what the Top G would do. The Top G would "humble her ego" and give her the opportunity to either repent of her behavior or get the Bleep out of his presence.

For Example:

She: "You’re short.”

The Top G: “Uhmm! So you are one of those judgemental ladies that go about passing negative remarks to others”

She: (explain herself or get upset.)

The Top G response didn't fuel her ego, but rather he gives her the choice to either #1. explain herself or even apologiy OR #2. Get upset and pissed off

If she humble her ego and explain herself, it's a win situation for him because, she'll automatically stop the shit she's putting up and she'll be more careful with her words. This will increase her respect and interest in him.

If she get upset and pissed off, it's still a win situation for him because it's even more easier to seduce a woman who's upset and pissed off. Only the Top G's understand that.

Again, I hear things like, to pass her shit test, you need to have game.

The same way I frowned at the idea of shit test, is the same way I frown at the idea of "game."

Women don't sleep with you because of your game. Women sleep with you 'despite' your game. Meaning, she didn't give you the pussy because of your so called game. She gave you the pussy because she was already into you from the moment she saw you, so she just manage to tolerate and endured your silly game.

Women get Hot and they enjoy sex. Experience has taught me that if a woman likes you, she will find a way to give you the pussy.

If she likes you but not giving you the pussy, then one reason might be because you're not creating a cooperating vibe.

When women throw the so called "shit test" at you, you are suppose to use it as opportunity to create a cooperating vibe, NOT a competitive power struggle vibe.

Using one of your example again:

Woman: "You probably say that to every girl.”

You: “Do you say that to every guy you’re attracted to? I have a 7-date rule anyways, so keep it in your pants.” (Challenging her)

If you're a inexperienced or a game junkie, that would seem like a dope comeback response. But what you don't realize there is that, you just created a competitive and power struggle vibe...
That will cause her to raise her guard up, act defensive and get ready to counter all your 'game' moves:

For example:

Woman: "You probably say that to every girl.”

You: “Do you say that to every guy you’re attracted to? I have a 7-date rule anyways, so keep it in your pants.”

Womanmtcheww) "I don't care. To hell with you and your 7-date rules, so keep it in your boxers. ”

You: (your dope response in an attempt to pass her shit test).

She: (raises her guard up, act more and more defensive and close off).

You and her will continue going back and forth... She will keep acting more and more defensive and close off in response to the game you are spitting. This will continue for hours, days, weeks, month. The interaction will probably lead to nowhere, and you will still not Bleep her despite your efforts.


Like I said, the goal isn't to pass her shit test; the goal is to put an end to the shit immediately...That's what the Top G would do. The Top G use it as an opportunity to create a cooperating vibe.

For example,

Woman: "You probably say that to every girl.”

Top G: “how I talk to other ladies doesn't really matter...The only person(s) that matters right now is you and I.....and I believe there are lots of cool things I'll learn about you.

This response will immediately inspire her to relax and raise her guard down because now she assumed you are a normal guy that just want to get to know her.

Stay blessed brothers...

There are certain posts that should be pinned to the top of this thread.
This is one of them.

There are some people on here with the pickup artist mindset trying to disguise as RedPill.
RedPill isn't PUA. Let me repeat that, RedPill isn't PUA.
They are not even similiar.

Like I once said, for those of you learning, one the abilities you would find most helpful while consuming this thread is the ability to filter true contents from wannabes.

HamOz:
I greet all of una for the house...been an observer till I created this account here...I have something to ask my Gs in the house..
So I have an elder brother....he is typically the ladies man..far more handsome,taller,bigger and gets girls far more than me( no biggy actually kos I have my own fair share)....
So I have about two Exs of mine in which he knows and he is a friend to one on FB..Recently I changed number and bkos of this they tried reaching me but it didn't go through so eventually they both got my number from him in which he eventually gave them and they were able to reach me...he later called me and told me some girls were asking for my number and I told him who they were(he is even familiar with one of them kos I dated her in my teens)..he also said that they were sexy and and I laffed it off till we changed topic..
So two weeks ago while at his place he was showing me a video on his phone when a Facebook message entered and it was from my ex so it seemed they have been chatting for a while..I just overlooked and acted as if I saw nothing then gave him the phone back...
So three days ago I called my other ex, while we were discussing she said my brother is inviting him over to his place even when he knows she is my ex...he said he knows but he wants to see her by inviting her to lag....I just use style to change the topic kos it was funny after the first one now this again...if it was a friend I will just back up a bit but this is my blood so I can't say I will stay off him...Not jealous but I find it wierd...so house what's your say on this...

There are two things to this:

One, don't fret. You are only seeing women reveal their true nature.
Do not be attached.
This is why we say, never take them as gold.
They would sleep eveywhere, even with your own blood.

The other thing is, you need to be careful around that guy you call your brother.
Ideally, the moment a woman mates with you, the men around you should consider her off limits.
It does not matter if she's still with you or not, the men around you should consider her off limits.
There's a lot here, and no amount of justification makes this right.
It's a very slippery slope.
It's safe to say, if you ever get married, your brother would entertain the thoughts of fucking your wife.
A man who sleeps with your exs or women you're currently fucking are men with little control over their dicks: such men are the kind who back-stab friends literally.
By the way, I speak from experience. Not my brother though, but people very close.

Karlifate:
You folks should join the moving train(s) on Telegram, and stop this paranoia of thread deletion.

The owner can do whatever he likes cos it's his property.

If you have nothing positive to share, resist quoting me next time.
join the moving train(s) on Telegram, yet your provided no link and even said you no longer have it.

Oh, so my ban has finally been lifted. Interesting.

I haven't been able to contribute for several days now, not because I haven't tried to, but because Seun and his cabals have decided to start censoring me.
I think its high time someone starts archiving this thread. It would be deleted sooner or later.

Some of the early contributors of this thread are no longer here.
I have to wonder, have they been censored too?
Is that why we no longer see them?

traware:
@Emboldened

On paper,this sounds all well and good but in reality,this leads to disastrous consequences for communities/societies and especially for the children involved.

All one has to do is to take a peek at the black american community where from the 1970s till present day 80% of them (yes 80%) were and are still being born in single parent households and just look at the sh.itshow that community has become.

What about the black south african community where single parenthood has sky rocketed for decades and look at how that community is hilariously collapsing on itself.

Even here in Nigeria,i have seen the damage and harm single parenthood/co-parenting has caused to children.

I totally admit the reality you stated above.
However, that isn't still a reason to get married.

You could put babies in women stomach, care for the mother and child, and still avoid setting yourself up for the psychological and financial pain that modern marriage brings.
What the child needs is care and for the father to be in their life. The child does not need marriage.
Marriage is for the benefit of women alone, not even the children.

If you plan on procreating, do so without the confines of the construct called marriage.
Even at that, extreme caution must be taken because your battle against the gynocentric world doesn't end there.

Dexter08:
Dear men,
I write after a long while to tell you this, that you are only love for your resources.

Just this week I lost my uncle. I dare say, his death was not as a result of his time coming to an end, his was as a result of losing the qualities that made him a man, husband and father.

Many years ago, he was what men were suppose to be or what men were groomed to be: a provider, a protector, a leader.

But one day things would go awry in 2005 I believe, as my uncle was shot almost 16 times by a gang of thieves on his way to the capital. How he survived all that to the year 2023 is a mystery in itself.

He might later become strong physically after that event, but mentally he never recovered. He lost his job. And losing his job meant he was no longer the provider, the protector, a leader and a beloved father.

This man that was loved by all, became something of a joke in his family. His wife disrespected him, his children cussed him out and sometimes they did not spare the rod on him which normally reverse should be the case.

I am definitely sure all of that frustration surely culminated to his death.

As I sat down thinking about the man, it hit me hard that as a man, you are only love for what you bring to the table. Nobody loves you for your hair, your bodily features.

You are only love for your resources. I dare say even your mothers are not left out.

I write to you today dear men, guard your resources judiciously, ruthlessly most especially when you get to the pinnacle of success.

They will call you stingy, wicked, even close the divide just underneath them. Dear men that shouldn't deter you from being frugal with your resources for should things go awry today, they won't hesitate to shame you and give you my uncle treatment as posted above.

Dear men, you are not love unconditionally, you are only for your resources!!!!

CC to those who assume their wives can be counted on.
Of course she smiles to you, calls you babe, buys you drugs when you have malaria.
But let the shit really hit the fan, your hearth would shatter, when you see how she changes towards you.
You'd try to cry, but then the tears wouldn't come.
You'd try to imagine to imagine how you didn't see her true nature, but then you'd remember this thread.

zenithgroup:
[color=#006600][/color][b][/b]Am considering marriage to have someone to have my back; what do you suggest is the best way to go about it if not marriage?

If you need someone who is going to have your back always, marriage is just not the way to go about it, let alone be the best way.
In ancient times, it might have been an option, if you chose your wife carefully and wisely.
In modern times, women do not grow up to have such mentality.
This world, for 99.99999999 percent of modern women, is about them (and maybe their kids) alone.
Of course, there is the 0.00000001 percent you could count on for such.
But in a world of 8 billion people, your chance of stumbling upon a unicorn is almost zero. You have a better chance of seeing an 80-year-old menstruate, that finding one of these unicorns.

If you need someone to have your back always, I'd start with this fact, no human being can be depended upon 100-per-cent.
A man who puts 100-per-cent trust in people is a man who has decided to cry in the future.
Some people can be very dependable, but never put 100-per-cent trust in any single human being.

That said, let's proceed:

1:
If you need someone to have your back always, start with your mother.
Some mothers can be very terrible, and if yours is, then this isn't for you.
Mothers are typically very emotional about their kids.
Their kids are the only reason women could risk burning in fire.
If you have a good mother and you treat her well, she might gladly lose her life just to protect you.
If you need someone to have your back always, start with your mother.

2:
If your father is the kind lacking in character, this isn't for you.
If your father is the kind who chases hedonistic pleasure his whole life, this isn't for you.
If your father is a blue-pilled man, this isn't for you.
If you have a good father, then he is another person you can depend on to a very larger extent.
History has seen countless cases of fathers running into burning fire, just to save their little girl or boy.
History has seen countless cases of fathers putting on rags, just to put their kids through school.
You can punch a man in the face, beat life of him, cut his hand off, and he still wouldn't cry. But put a man in a position where he can't adequately provide or protect his kids, and you might just see him break down in tears like a baby.
If you need someone to have your back always, be good to your father and cultivate a strong relationship with him.

Now, some would wonder why I placed the mother above the father in this case.
Here's the thing, the love a mother has for the child is a lot irrational than that of the father. If you do some really bad stuff, your father is likely to abandon you. We have countless cases of disciplined fathers disowning their kids.
Many women on the other hand are willing to forgive almost anything.

3:
If your parents produced multiple offspring, the next set of people to look at are your siblings.
However, never automatically count on all siblings.
Some siblings, even from the same mother, could literally be the ones plotting to kill you.
I am only referring to those who have proven to be truly dependable.
If you need someone to have your back always, be good to your true siblings and cultivate a strong relationship with them.
Never sacrifice or diminish relationships with your true siblings, over any woman. I see this happen a lot with blue-pilled men.

4:
People are not only united by family, people are also united by religions, ideologies, causes, missions, etc.
If you're part of a community of men with character and principles who are united by religions, ideologies, causes, missions, etc, your fellow comrades are people you might also be able to count on.
Just like in the case of siblings, never count on just any comrade. Count on comrades who have proven to be truly dependable.
Islam today is a much watered-down version of what is used to be at some point, so we don't see many examples of this today.
However, when Islam used to be undiluted, you dare not kill a Muslim brother, otherwise you'd find an army of Brothers-in-Faith at your doorstep.
We have also started to such examples in the manosphere, although to a lesser degree, men standing up for one another against the court and this gynocentric world.
If you need someone to have your back always, be good to your true comrades and cultivate a strong relationship with them.

If sanity returns back to this world, and women are put in their place, and women are once again brought up properly by strong, disciplined and redpilled father, marriage may probably then return to this list.

Edipet:
From Brian on facebook

I bet you, this man belongs to the category who would come here to tell us not all women are like that.
They would tell you how they chased their fiancees and it worked, not knowing she's every other person's hoe.
Or he might be one of those who say, the redpill needs to be balanced with some blue pill.

Purple pilled men and SIMPs would make you believe redpill is impractical.
They would make you believe it doesn't align with reality.
It is all a lie.
They are scared little men.
They are unable to muster up the courage to exit the matrix, into reality.
They dig into the ground to find all sorts of lies and excuses.
Do not be fooled.
The redpill is a very bitter drug to take, but it is the most healthy.
Take your pill now and live the rest of your life in good mental and psychological health

The redpill is the most bitter and blunt thing you might ever come across your whole life.
It would never be sugar-coated for you.
You can either take it, and give yourself a chance for a life worth living.
Or you can ignore it and set yourself up for misery.
The choice is yours.

The acceptable reason you might consider marriage is to procreate, just like your father procreated you.
And even at that, extreme caution must be taken.

If you are considering marriage for any other reason, you might want to ask if you have learnt anything at all.

If you are considering marriage for love, you still haven't been unplugged. Romantic love is an illusion. (Would write on this specifically some day).
If you are considering marriage for sex, without mincing word, you're delusional.
If you are considering marriage because of pressure, you are about making a mistake you'd regret for decades of your life.
If you are considering marriage so you can always have someone who would always have your back, you have chosen the worst way to go about it.

When you go after women, you end up trying to please them.
When you are making effort to please them, she now has you in her frame.
A man in a woman's frame is no redpilled.
Once again, the name of the game is attraction, let the women come.
Do not chase under any circumstance, it is a slippery slope.

Yes, you will miss out on some women if you don't chase.
But that's women who don't even like you in the first place and women who would be toxic to you.
I should also add, just as some wouldn't chase, a lot would.
If you execute your redpill well, you would have more than enough to satisfy your cravings. You would have so much that you start to filter out. So the fact that you wouldn't have all doesn't mean you wouldn't have in abundance.
If a woman doesn't like you, don't fool yourself into thinking you can negotiate attraction.

Woman who don't naturally like you would sometimes tolerate you, when you SIMP.
This what some mistake as thinking chasing women works.
This is the same caliber of men whose wives cheat on them.

Brokeloser:
Mordern day married men are really going through tough shiit silently.Good luck to those who still plan to marry.

As for the court issue I wonder don't these men have enlightened men in their lives to let them know say na express them dey go.

Many go through things they can't speak of.
But rather than discouraging other men, they would rather keep quiet, let other men fall into the same trap, so that they have partners in misery.

Only some who have been married for 15+ years muster up the sincerity to speak up regarding the harsh realities of a married life.

Don't take the words of newly married men too seriously and those who are just about to get married.

Once again lads, don't be fooled.
One of the biggest skills you could learn is knowing how to sift chaffs from the real stuff.

We have a troll here disguised as a RedPiller.

Ordinarily, I wouldn’t post another comment regarding his trolling, but I have to do this for the lads who might be getting confused by his use “pragmatism”.
Let no one fool you with grammars.
Whenever you see people who refuse to speak in simple ELI5 english, they are usually empty people hiding behind grammars.

He seems to have just learnt that word from a pickup artist book.
He is so excited and wants to show off his new knowledge.
Note, I said pickup artist book, not redpill book.

Now, what’s pragmatism?

In a simple sentence and in the context in which our troll has been using it, it means practical approach regarding how to get girls into your bed. For instance, do A, then do B, don't do C, then do D, and she would be in your bed.

Now, there are three things to this:

1: Does this sound similar to how many pickup artists (who are actually SIMPS) think in matters pertaining to women?

They tell you how to pick up a girl, step-by-step: what to say to make her like you, how to tell her to give you her no, and so on.

If these two sound similar to you, you are not alone.

2: The troll doesn’t want anything apart from step-by-step processes to be discussed.

Unfortunately for him, being redpilled isn’t just about getting women into your bed.

He should calm himself down and realize that the redpill comprises of (i) understanding you have been lied to all your life; (ii) understanding what women really are (their true nature); (iii) helping you realize to learn to be a man: to build principles and character; and lastly (iv) offering you a healthy way to lead women into your bed.

The troll is only interested in item 4. The essence of the experience I shared is to buttress item 1, redpillers truly get women.

He would like to compel us all to keep quiet about anything pertaining to item 1, 2, and 3. Guess what kind of people are similar to this? The SIMPs.

SIMPs are men who are not interested in (i) hearing about the existence of the matrix; (ii) understanding the true nature of women; and (iii) helping your realize the necessity to build principles and characters.

They are similar to the male goat. All its life revolve around pussy. That is all he wants to hear: how to get pussy, nothing else.

3: All our troll craves is a step-by-step process. He wants us to share tips and dating drills with him and not our success stories.

Only if he pays attention enough and has been following this thread closely, I personally shared tips, so many other comrades also have. In addition, I mentioned "looking into some Paul Elam materials" (someone even pointed this to him which he ignored). For the young lads, you might also want to look at Tom Leykis.

I have already stated times without number, men make yourself attractive and build character. That is my key tip. I won't tell you how to get a girl's no, because you don't need to. I won't tell you how to talk to a girl, redpilled men don't learn such: when a girl is into you, you won't have to learn how to talk to girl. I sure as hell also won't teach you pickup artistry.

I have already phrased my key tip in different ways, “attraction is the name of your game”, “stop chasing women and attract them instead”, and so on.

In my previous posts, I referred to the guy as an half-baked redpiller. The more he opens his mouth, the more I realize, this isn’t even half-baked redpill. He is no redpiller at all. Bluntly speaking, he is SIMP in a redpiller’s cloak. He has now been identified and should be treated as such.

I tell you this, when I decided to make that post, my intention wasn’t even to brag.
There are many lads who find it difficult to embrace the redpill. They feel, if they do, women would never be in their lives.
My essence of posting that was to show that see, here I am. I don’t play by the rules laid down by SIMPS.
Here I am, I have taken the redpill, and that has only brought me more women than I know what to do with.
I was providing live feed to prove how grounded the redpill was in reality.
“I am a living proof”, that’s the essence of my post.
Yes, I emphasized how little effort I invested, but that still part of the attempt to get these lads excited.

If I really wanted to brag, I would have been here years ago, telling tales of every girl I have been banging. If I really wanted to brag, I would post pictures of the kind of girls I’ve been banging. If I really wanted to brag, I would litter this threads with compliments I get regarding my bed skills and how 75% can’t help but acknowledge how big my dick is. If I really wanted to brag, I would tell you how much attention I command, when I walk into places. If I really wanted to brag, I would tell you how often women harass me with their boobs and asses. But I digress.

I would address and speak to you from a brotherly point of view, but obviously you are not someone to listen.
You would only continue to litter this thread.

Guys, we already know what he is, we shouldn’t give him more attention than he deserves.
I felt people still learning might have started getting confused by his use of “pragmatism”, otherwise I personally wouldn’t have posted this.
We already know how we quarantine our trolls, he needs to be quarantined too.
Avoid quoting him.
If you have to refer to him, use “the troll”.

dhiqson:

I find it funny when someone posts his field/live experience and people who won't contributr jack shit to the thread will come along to find loopholes to discredit it

Okay you're the master in game and shitTest passing have you for once dropped any practical example of your gaming tactics that worked?

Only to castigate and that's all


Na wa sha....

Like I said, they are half-baked fellows.

They have little to no clue of the big picture.
They have little to no clue regarding how every of these single thing relate with one another on the grand scheme.
That's why he's unable to relate when I say, have Principles and stop trying to pass shit test.
There's still a lot for him to learn but already sees himself a master.
I hope that doesn't stunt is growth.

Many wouldn't dare to share their experiences because they know they might be making mistakes somewhere, and that those mistakes would be pointed out here.
And for those of you who share their experiences, they feel insecure (like little girls), and see the bragging there rather than the experience itself.

Like I said, I'm only here for those who really want to learn.
Otherwise, I wouldn't have created this account in the first place.
If I wanted to brag, I would find more worthy people to do it to.
I wouldn't even consider guys like Rizz my equal let alone try to brag to them.

Rizzputin:
This is why i said majority of you don't really know what a shìt test is.

A girl will test you most times when she is attracted to you. Maybe it's cause the word "test" that is making you guys feel some type of way.

But EVERY girl you game will test you. And no, you don't "sit down and take a test" LMAO. You're being to literal and rational like it's an exam or something.

"Do you say this to every a girl?" Is a test. You either pass, fail or walk away. There is literally no other option. You can only prevent tests (when possible) but when a test is presented, you don't "throw it out the window"

I really do not know where some of you get some ideologies from. This is why i said you learn nothing when a girl is chasing you down. Another reason why some of you shy away from approaching women and wait till she approaches you. That is not seduction or game.

All of you pass shìt tests then turn around say "i didn't play her game" it's laughable when you go through red pill and pass a test and don't even realize you were tested. Maybe due to lack of self awareness or something.

I have no issues with bragging. But misdirected bragging or bragging just for the sake of it? Now that's just being a Pseudo-alpha

Read through your post and tell me one pragmatic skill someone can learn besides the fact that you fùcked

Once again, this is example of half-baked redpill.

Whether girls throw shit test your way or not should never be your concern.
Your objective is to have principles and hold on to them at all times.

Stop focusing on passing shit test. You can't keep operating in the feminine gender's frame and claim redpilled.

Principles is the name of the game. That's what your focus should be.
The feminine gender is attracted to the man who can hold on to his frame and not get distracted by her actions.
When you focus on trying to pass her shit test, that's not redpill.

Rizzputin:
I had a newbie who started gaming 2 months ago. Last week he moved into a new estate.

A girl saw him... approached him in evening and told him she saw him and came to say hi. Long story short, it was a wild evening

Earlier this year my friend invited me to a get together. When i came i saw two girls i liked... it was a small get together almost like a picnic. I met one and within 10 - 15 mins she was sucking my dick in the bathroom

My friend's gf saw us kissing and wanted to have some. But I'm a man of principle.

Another time, i saw a girl coming back from work... walked up to her before she entered her taxi and told her after running some game that she should take me home.

She said her bf will be coming over at night, i told her not to worry i don't sleep over at girls houses. She said okay. Fùcked her before her bf came around

You see, i have many many more experiences like this. But you have failed to miss the point which shows me all you care about is bragging


In all scenarios i was shìt tested likewise everyone but some of you prefer to lie and say ridiculous things like "i threw the shìt test out the window"

Once a test is presented before you, you either pass, fail or walk away entirely.

Lastly what do you actually learn when a girl practically chases and approaches you? I mean it's fun, you get to fùck
But like i said, this is not seduction. This is not game. And such things do not happen often.

In all scenarios i was shìt tested likewise everyone but some of you prefer to lie and say ridiculous things like "i threw the shìt test out the window"
I would repeat stop trying to pass a girl's shit test.

When she can make you want to pass her shit test, then you are already operating in her frame. That is not redpill.

You are the man, she bends to your will, not the other way around.

Have principles, and stick to them, that way you never have to worry about taking any test.

When a person dishes out the test and you decide to sit down and take it, I don't know how more obvious this can be to you that she is now the master and you are the subject.

Stop trying to pass shit tests and have principles instead.

all you care about is bragging
This is old news. Already said it, I'm important. I walk like it. I talk like it. I don't try to be submissive to fit in.

If you get the gist, you can also realize you are important. If you don't understand this mentality, then resist quoting me again.

A girl who desires you is already ready to Bleep you whether even she herself admits or not.

Now you can either follow the shortest path to her pants, or fool around with stupid things like dates, late night calls, expensive gifts, getting to know each other, and so on. When you fool around, she slowly stops seeing you as a man to Bleep and starts to see you as a betabucks.

Once the girl show obvious interest, take the shortest path to her pants. And once you are done, get her out of your apartment. You don't want anything like, "I want to cook for you", "Let's get to know each other". Familiarity breeds contempt. Allow her in your space only when it's time to Bleep. If she is supposed to come and cancels, punish her or outrightly throw her out of the list of girls on your rotary list.

Oh, this guys is just one random dude full of himself.
Honestly, I don't deny that. Got that from my pops, can't get it out of my DNA.
Mama carried me 9 months, didn't try to abort me: Why shall the man cower and walk this earth like he was a mistake.
But I digress.

I post all these for the young lads willing to learn and fellow comrades who appreciate other comrades sharing experiences.
Many of the things I would post here would verge on the extreme, never discard them as made up.
I hope many of you lads would get there one day and come back to also share your own experiences.
Also, don't fall for the mistake I see some making here: thinking because you already know a few things about redpill, you must have learnt it all.
I have been following this thread since it was just 10 pages. Took almost 2/3 years before the man finally came on here to share his part.

It doesn't come as a surprise that some find it so hard to believe the experience shared.
This sounds so foreign to them, they can't fathom how this could be possible.
It shows how deeply entrenched they still are in the matrix, even though they are all about this thread claiming redpill.
Guys you still have a lot to learn. You might want to start consuming some Paul Elam materials.

I would tell you this, that isn't even my shortest close. Want to know my shortest close?

Was approaching my compound.
Girl was trailing behind me, I suppose she was walking down the street.
As I branched left, to walk towards my gate, girl says, "Should I come?"
Looked at the direction where that came from, scanned the girl if she was worth my time. Then said, "Yeah, first flat".
Girl nods and proceeds down the street.
15 minutes later, heard a knock on my door. The rest? History.

Rizzputin:
In my years in the field any time a guy says "want to know how i did it? Actually I didn't do it" it's due to a lack of understanding about game.

Unless you're a celebrity with so much status that she practically begged you for sex on seeing you the first time, you gamed her.

And you threw her test out the window? LOL. I'm assuming you mean ignore her.

Once a girl tests you, there's no such thing as "throw her test out the window" You either pass it or fail it. Ignoring a test is part of passing it. Most times that's the best way to handle tests but sometimes especially when you cold approach her for the first time, it's not always the case.

Secondly, i have a bone to pick with write ups like these. In the whole year this scenario wont happen up to 10 times.

Nothing much to learn here rather than bragging from you.

Would have replied you, but seeing this, "but sometimes especially when you cold approach her", you already revealed what you are. Not worth my time.

XshegzzyeeiX:
Brilliant submission.

My red pill antenna is blinking pretty high.

Why do I feel she is baiting you.
Why do I feel she's playing a particular game with you.

Pray tell, did you fucccck her raw or used CeeDee?

I just hope she's not trying to pin something on you or entangle you in a long term situation you're totally unaware of; like a sort of mistake she made and tryna act all nice with you until you're deeply immersed in the rabbit hole.


Overall, just be careful.
These girls know what they are doing, especially if she's been involved with lots of men.

Women were born redpilled, abeg no looseguard.

Fact is, all girls who interact with you are all baiting your for a reason or the other. No exception, unless MAYBE your mother.
For some, the end goal is to make lose your rational mind and then SIMP for them;
For some, the end goal is to make you offer them marriage;
For some, the end goal is to make you squander your cash on them;
For some, the end goal is to be seen with you, it increases their perceived value among fellow girl/women;
For some. the end goal is to make you care for the children;
For some, the end goal is to make you pay their house rent;
For some, the end goal is to make you buy them iPhone 13 Pro Max.
There's no question she's baiting me for somethings. That is already a known fact.

The redpill is not about avoiding women who bait you, because AWALT. They are all playing the game.
The redpill is about making your aware of these deceptive tactics and how you successfully handle them.

As I speak, there is a naked one in my bed.

Didn't have to chase her before she walked into my room and lay on my bed.
Total number of minutes spent on phone before deal was closed is a lot less than 5 min.
Never paid a dime.
Never bought anything.
Didn't even cook or get her anything yesterday night. In fact, the previous night, she bought the drinks.
There have been 0 WhatsApp messages exchanged. I intend to keep it that way.
There have been 0 SMS exchanged. I intend to keep it that way.
There have been zero "I love you" from me to her. I didn't lie my way into her pants.
What I have got instead are comment like, "You can't even call.", "You are wicked.", and other variants.

Before she slept off, she asked me one of the famous questions, "Do you have a girlfriend?".
Said yes, even though I don't. Shall remain a free man. Was born free, so shall the man die.
As soon as daylight breaks, sending her back to her house.

Want to know how I did it? Actually, I didn't do it. I didn't care. I didn't give a Bleep.
In fact, she had been on my neck for a while, only let her into my space today.
Focus has always been the purpose.
Attitude has always been, if you like me, walk over. I might take it from there.
She initiated first contact, I did not.

Of course, she shit tested me.
Actually, I didn't try to pass her shit test. I threw her test out the window.

Oh, she offered to prepare me breakfast tomorrow.
Actually, she is going back to her house before that happens.

And of course, the dick game was good.
Definitely a skill every man must cultivate.
Sure, she would spread the dick news amongst her friends, and that would in turn lead more fishes into my bed.

When the conspirators of the modern world decided to turn the world upside, they started by reversing the strategy of the male and female gender, in the intersexual-dynamic game.

They told man that his game is to chase and woman that hers is to attract. They told kings to chase after their subjects and asked the subject to attract kings.

Once the natural order of things were turned upside down, it was only natural for the power dynamic to shift into the hands of women.

If you must take back your power, you must re-adopt your natural intersexual-dynamic strategy and abandon the lie you have been told.

Stop chasing women. Have a purpose in life and recognize that women are just one of the pleasures of life, just like good food, wine, whisky, music, and so on.

When you desire to consume a woman, do so in an healthy manner. And the game you play is that of attraction. Keep good hygiene. Dress well. Take good care of your face. Learn to speak well. Wear good masculine perfume. Build good character. Get fit. Be and look dangerous.