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6) Another absurdity. Kindly use this to justify meaningless suffering for us. Example, a baby suffers terribly then dies jimrohn

7) If you think deeply about it, free will is an illusion - a trick of the brain. There is an actual experiment that proves it. Why do you think prophecies and fortelliing future is possible when a slightly different decision by a single person can trigger chain of events resulting in different outcome.
I'm sure Judas was 100% sure the decision to betray Jesus was 100% his own and he agonized a long time before finally deciding. Yet long before he was born he was marked down to do just that and couldn't deviate from it!

Banned again trying to post numbers 6 to 10

JimRohn:
Before I answer the question, which religion are you practicing?

Bot keeps erasing my reply and banning me. I'll break up my replies and change some words. I'll also just post them without quoting you. Let's see if that works

helinues:
This writer did not watch the interview because I did.

The presenter accused Kenneth of betraying Peter Obi, in self defense, Kenneth claimed it was Peter Obi that betrayed him instead.

There wasn't any discussion about Peter
Obi calling Kenneth a betrayer

STOP LYING!!!
I don't understand WHY people like you tell blatant lies knowing fully well people can easily go and fact-check you. The interviewer said right at the beginning of the interview exactly that - that Peter Obi gave an interview insinuating KO betrayed him.
STOP LYING!!!

SmartPolician:
There's nothing wrong with this. If a real man of God does it for you, nobody can deny you a visa.

The truth is that humans know that ideas come to them, but they don't know what initiates or inspires such ideas.

If God wants a visa officer to approve your visa, He will give him 1001 reasons why he should, even when the applicant may not be qualified.

So isn't it YOUR faith that will do it? Why does it require "a real man of God" (you didn't include woman)

JimRohn:
Thank you for your reply—though it's filled more with cynical generalizations than serious argument. Allow me to respond in a calm and reasoned manner.

First, your criticism of Islam based on the actions of individuals or political groups reflects a common logical fallacy: equating a religion with the misconduct of some who claim it. If we were to judge Christianity by the same standard, we would be forced to ask: is Christianity to be blamed for the transatlantic slave trade, the Inquisition, colonialism, or the Rwandan genocide where Christians murdered Christians inside churches? Clearly not. So let us rise above this intellectual laziness and assess Islam by its doctrines, not the deeds of criminals or deviants.

Second, the conflict you cite—Shia vs Sunni, ISIS vs others, or political instability in parts of the Muslim world—is often more about geopolitics, foreign intervention, and socio-economic instability than about religion. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, and Syria were destabilized not by Islam, but by invasions, proxy wars, and power struggles—most of them fueled or worsened by Western military intervention. Blaming Islam for these outcomes is both historically dishonest and analytically shallow.

Third, you ask if “this is the Islam practiced in Afghanistan and other backward countries”—and in doing so, you equate poverty with religious failure. But that is simply inaccurate. Malaysia, Indonesia, Turkey, Qatar, and the UAE are all Muslim-majority nations—several with better literacy rates, infrastructure, and social cohesion than many so-called “developed” countries. Islam is not what holds nations back—corruption, war, and Western-imposed economic systems are far more relevant causes.

Fourth, regarding your claim of people being killed in Nigeria on “trumped-up accusations”—that, too, is not Islam. It is ignorance, mob justice, and lawlessness, all of which Islam condemns unequivocally. The Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ) strictly forbade vigilantism, injustice, and false accusation. The misuse of Islamic texts by extremists or mobs does not reflect the actual teachings of the Qur’an or Sunnah any more than lynch mobs waving crosses reflect the Gospel.

Finally, your mockery of Islam’s intellectual depth only underscores your discomfort with the fact that, despite centuries of colonial erasure, economic strangulation, and relentless media distortion, Islam continues to grow, inspire, and guide billions with clarity, purpose, and spiritual depth unmatched by secular materialism or politicized faith.

So no—Islam is not the problem. Hypocrisy, ignorance, and weaponized misinformation are.

Let us have an honest discussion—not one built on sarcasm and stereotypes—but on truth, history, and sincere inquiry. If you wish to critique Islam, do so based on its principles, not the failure of some to uphold them.

Thanks for your erudite though obviously specious defense of the faith you happen to be born into! I'm obviously not a Muslim nor have I read the Quran but I can see the effects of Islam on TODAY'S world and on my country, and I can compare it to effect of other religions. I don't know what Islam is supposed to be, but I can see for myself what it has become. Be honest, don't you think the world would be a better, more peaceful place if there was no Islam in it?
(BTW I continued my response in the next post. Maybe you didn't see it)

JimRohn:
Thank you for your continued engagement. I appreciate your honesty and willingness to discuss these profound matters. Let me respond thoughtfully to your points, keeping clarity and reason at the forefront.

1) On Free Will and Thoughts
You ask how we know we have free will and where thoughts come from. Islam affirms that human beings possess real moral agency and accountability. Our conscious experiences, choices, and responsibilities are evident in everyday life and religious teachings. While some philosophical questions about the nature of consciousness remain open, denying free will outright leads to logical contradictions in ethics and justice. If we cannot choose, holding anyone accountable becomes meaningless, undermining moral frameworks in both Islam and Christianity alike.

2) On Simulators Being Like God
Speculating that “simulators” could be God-like beings falls short because it assumes those simulators exist necessarily and eternally without cause, which is precisely what the concept of God addresses in classical theology. God is defined as the necessary being—uncaused, eternal, and self-sufficient—beyond any hierarchy or contingency. A “simulator,” by contrast, implies a created, contingent entity operating within some framework, which does not solve the ultimate question of why anything exists at all.

3) On the First Cause Starting Without Reason
The First Cause, or Necessary Being, does not “start causing for no reason.” Rather, it is the reason all contingent things exist. Its nature is such that it eternally wills creation, not arbitrarily or randomly, but as an expression of its perfect will. This is a metaphysical principle, not a temporal event needing a cause. To demand a cause before the First Cause misunderstands the nature of necessary existence.

4) On Time Starting with the Universe
Your point about time arising with change aligns with the Islamic and classical philosophical understanding that time is contingent on creation. Without creation and change, time as a measure of change cannot exist. God, being outside time, is not limited or bound by temporal dimensions. This is consistent with modern physics’ view that time began with the Big Bang.

5) On God's Will and Creation’s Beginning
God’s eternal will does not conflict with creation’s temporal beginning. God’s knowledge and will are not subject to change or time. When creation begins, it does so according to divine wisdom, not arbitrarily. Intelligence, in this context, is perfect and timeless, not reactive or spontaneous.

6) On the Problem of Evil and Free Will
The existence of evil and suffering is indeed a profound challenge, but Islam teaches that life is a test with meaningful consequences. Evil and hardship provide the context for moral growth, free choice, and ultimate justice beyond this world. Denying free will renders questions of evil moot because responsibility dissolves.

7) On Human Imperfection and Accountability
Your skepticism about free will again undermines human responsibility. Islam teaches that imperfection is part of the human condition, but humans are tested precisely because they have choice. Without choice, reward and punishment would be unjust and meaningless.

On Divine Reward and Human Action
You suggest that God “doesn’t care” about human actions despite rewarding them. This is a misunderstanding. In Islamic theology, Allah’s knowledge and justice are perfect. Reward is not arbitrary; it is the manifestation of divine mercy and justice in response to sincere belief and righteous action. The purpose of reward is to encourage moral responsibility and spiritual growth, which God fully values.

9) On Philosophy, Knowledge, and Evidence
Philosophy may acknowledge human limits, but it also provides powerful tools to understand metaphysical realities logically and coherently. Islam embraces reason alongside revelation. Evidence in Islamic theology is multifaceted, including rational arguments, historical testimony, and spiritual experience. Christianity’s claim about Christ as evidence is meaningful within its own framework, but from an Islamic perspective, evidence must be examined critically and comparatively.

In Summary:
Islam presents a coherent worldview addressing existence, causality, free will, divine justice, and ultimate purpose through a synthesis of reason and revelation. While speculative ideas like “simulation” are creative, they do not solve the foundational metaphysical questions or provide a consistent moral framework.

Thanks for your erudite (and once again comical) response. If only one didn't know the real-life practitioners of this your perfect Islam that has all the answers!😅 If only one hadn't witnessed Sharia in action? Tension, conflic, and killings everywhere. If it is not Shia vs Sunni, it is ISIS vs Al-Quaeda, secular vs orthodox. Is this the same Islam they're practicing in Afghanistan and other perpetually backward countries? (But for oil!).
Do you know how many totally innocent people in Nigeria have been beheaded, burnt to death, stoned to death, on trumped up accusations about Quran or Muhammed? That's what's funny - your words juxtaposed with reality!
(Continued next post to avoid bot)

How much dem dey pay u?
Posting this propaganda all over the place