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Mr Troll: just for clarification purposes, A terminally Ill person has no chance of survival. he/she is just counting the days until eventual death and if the person, considering that he/she is in serious pain and that it takes considerable cost to keep him alive for longer and decides to end it in order to alleviate the burden on his family, I don't see how that is immoral. in my opinion, he/she just reduced his, and his family's suffering and that Is moral.

Exactly.....

Tell them..

rationalmind:

Don't blame him,he has not seen where 2months pregnancy has been terminated before..

FrancisTony: why taking his/her life? If money is not available, leave him/her to die a natural death.

And the suffering?
And bro! If you stop buying the medics ain't you committing murder lil by lil yourself? Then that ain't a natural death dude .you killed him!
This is even worse than euthanasia.. pttfff!

Why not just end it and relief the patient of pains esp if that's what he wants himself?!

^ seriously frank.
I don't need to argue with you..
I will wait for an intelligent Christian..

FrancisTony: flush what? If it's the thing i'm thinking of, then i'll say it's nature. But abortion is done purposely

^ flushing sperm is nature?? Ahhhh Jesus!

striklymi: 1) Is Euthanasia the honourable way out?
2) Is long suffering such a bad thing?
3) Do I want to die for nothing or something?

1. . If I were to ask persons if they wanted their money taken for societies use and whether they supported taxes I would very probably receive two different answers.
That's just the case of euthanasia... the deed is done with the patients' consents or families'.. to stop the long suffering..


Euthanasia does not harm anyone but the person who has consented. So why is it immoral to die painlessly?l If you are suffering why should it be considered Immoral for you to end that suffering.

Would you rather a living dead sick man continue living on machine for years/months. Imagine the money that could be spent to secure other persons futures being used on a mAn with 5% of survival. Or would you wait on miracles which we both know is a 2 in 50 chances.?
imagine the pains the patient is going through of course you can't,why? You are not in his position..
A family whose savings is about 1.5m got their father in the hospital and 6m is required to carry out the operation(of course its a 30-70% chance of survival or even lower)
Children's educations will come to a halt cause all the money coming in is used on the father..
Mother and eldest children are running helter shelter to raise funds(as we both know helps come hard in this country)..
Along the line,one of the child gained admission he's been looking for. But the money that was sposed to be used for the admission process wasn't available(it surely is).. he automatically loses the adm!

How would it feel for such family if at the end the man dint survive it.?
Double suffering!! All their money has been. ........ wasted!! Now,the real struggles begins...

we have a Moral duty to reduce Human Suffering so why would Euthanasia be immoral? It would not. Euthanasia is merely a Painless way to end ones suffering, and not to prolong the inevitable when life has become a living hell. This is definitely a honourable way.

2.. so you would refer a man suffers for long with just little hopes of survival? Euthasania isn't used if theres a high chance of survival.. but when patient has got a terminal ailment. Euthanasia isn't carried out just after a few days in the hospital. . It takes months,some years before docs and family opt for it.

Seriously your no2 question is worse than people advocating euthanasia(in your sense)..
Is long suffering worse? .. you really mean this q?!

3. In my e.g above,if euthanasia had been used earlier ... hadn't the man died for something? He left a family who's got money to cater for themselves.. his death will only be grieved for a while ..after which the family move on!
But how will they move on when everything had been lost?
Is that something or nothing to die for?


And about your worries concerning the afterlife...

It will only be wickedness If such a man after his long suffering without God intervening and He still got punished there after!

whenever someone is killed in an accident, a War, or even by personal choice; the action that ledup to it is inherently Immoral? Even if it was at the mercy of many other people? War as an e.g.

^ whats your effing business with what questions should b asked or not?

The man answered the q ,how does it pained you?
Its no business of yours if he should ans it or not and he definitely has got medulla to see the q to be OK..



Learn the works of reporters... I just don't see how he/she was rude! Tsww!

I bet you would have stoned the reporter if it were you..

Reyginus: Lol. What will now happen when I change position on the same thread by thursday. Madness!!
I think I will do better if it was asked in my atheist thread.

Alright bro...
Thursday it is!!

^ why?

FrancisTony: And who told you that my church supports your euthanasia and abortion. Research before you post

Guy,did you read the op without your medulla?

Read again!

^
Just like lying isnt different and giving someone pains isn't!

They are bad for christains.. they shouldnt get involved.

I understand your post quite well..

Uyi Iredia: A beg comot !

...

Is there really nothing up there?

Reyginus: I will make my statement on thursday.

Hehe ... take your time..

Sal C: Too bad. Yet they are thesame people preaching thou shall not kill

Hypocrite!

So is this better than euthanasia?
See your life?!

Bidam: Let's go back to genesis where it all began.Did Adam ask God for a wife? He was minding his own business remember? God made the choice for him.

Our priority should be first and foremost God and His kingdom,the rest na additions(jara).

No be the wife he give Adam dey cause this jagajaga ?!


Abegi!... he shouldn't have bothered,Adam was enjoying being alone.
Trouble sleep jeje you go wake am!

Jesu!!!

^ and now?
You arent?
Then talk on the topic..

^ thanks..

I can find the route my self..

^ clap for yourself..

Logicboy03: Wow......how prescriptive

why not use logical steps to get to your conclusion rather than just make blanket statements?

Except you wna hear "thou shall not kill" "and suicide is also killing" tales..

Then be ready to see lotta blank statements.

Sal C: A christian should not encourage mercy killing let alone getting involve in it.

Why?

^ to them,when there's life,there is hope...

But in extreme cases between llife-death,i wonder what hope there is..
God would rather care about who and who is heaven/hell bound than looking through the pains or life on earth.. that's the picture the fanatic Christians paint.


Lol you should know

But a conc Christian brethren might have his/her reasons as to why euthanasia is wrong .

I just don't know why they are running from this .

^ Christians still see that as murder and so 98% of them won't advocate it.

Even when the patient is In a graved pain and chances are sooner or later he's gon die. They still would rather God take him instead.. i.e dying a natural death

Not putting into consideration the money spent(yeah life is involved but there are other lives involved as well..esp if the one life is almost gone already)time,pains..

As a Christian myself(well not really,dont ask how) I dont see anything wrong with euthanasia..

Ask Him...

rationalmind: Since the question is directed to christians, I'll just watch from the sidelines

Its been modified

Christians where you at?!!

Let's rub minds here...

Lol its not as easy a tithing issue,ai?

What is Euthanasia?
What is euthanasia
and what are the arguments for it?
Is it legal?
Is it moral?
These are some of the common questions people have about euthanasia.

Definition of euthanasia:
Euthanasia, sometimes known as"mercy-killing," is the intentional ending of a patient's life by a physician, usually by lethal injection. Technically, "physician-assisted suicide" is different and refers to a physician providing a patient with the means for taking his or her own life.

Euthanasia and religion :
Among those who attend religious services weekly, only 33% regarded euthanasia as morally acceptable.
Among those who attend services "nearly weekly," 48% said euthanasia is morally acceptable.
Since religion concerns itself with issues of life, death, meaning and morality, it is not surprising that, for many people, religious beliefs are the main basis for their views of euthanasia. While there are certainly many other factors that contribute to one's position on euthanasia, such as concerns about the risk of abuse, compassion, pain control, legal freedom, etc., this thread will focus almost entirely on the religious aspects of the issue.


Christians what do you think? Right or wrong?
Atheists/non religious/pagans are free to contribute as well..