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Eddlad:
Here is how you can understand this.

When a person sleeps the only time you are aware of is when sleep and when you wake up, essentially hours compress to a second,but all these hours are actually been "witnessed" by someone who is not asleep,they actually "live" the hours as they go by.

Then again Jesus relates death to sleep again and again,hope you understand.

what is the evidence for the soul?

Eddlad:
Atheism is relatively new,in the beginning the most pertinent question wasn't whether or not God existed rather who was worshipping the right one.Man built many for himself and ascribed their beliefs to them
them.

Some however worshiped the one true God and became the israelites. Now you know this,read the word and realise several instances where God tried to used the israelites to help the world know that he was the one and only true God.

Questions are good but your tone depicts someone who thinks he has it figured out.

proof urs is truer than islam?..oor mormon..?
Drop it

KingEbukaNaija:
Huh ?

u didnnt read it?
Pls do...or lemme simplfy..
The hebrew word used to translate isiah 45:7 is 'ra' which means evil,sin and wickedness in a moral sense...
Modern day bible translators aware oof the tragedy this verse holds for their faith have attempted to soften its blow..by bringing calamity..woe and disaster...
Proof that 'ra' primarily meanns evil sin n wickedness...

Google search the following verses in hebrew with the host site biblehub.com
or u can jst directly go to biblehub.com ad select the hebrew bible...
Gen 2:17
gen6:5
gen 13:13
deut 1:35
judges 2:11
i kings 16:30
manny other more...all these verses make use of the hebrew word 'ra'..
Try applying calamity disaster and woe to these verses in english in replacement of 'ra'...
U'd see it doesnt fit..except for evil...nd wickednness or sin
this annd many other verses prove the original meaning of 'ra' is evil which is what isiah 45:7 tells us..nt punishing unbelievers
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace,
and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
—Isaiah 45:7 ,

hopefulLandlord:
Very true

It shows that they didn't even read the contents

Probably just saw "atheism" and quickly posted it here

Its hilarious

asin ehn...
I gave them a direct link to all of hitler's quotes and speeches at a go...fear no gree let them open am..they know when they do...their shallow thinkking wud be splashed on their faces...
They fink christianity is the only religion as per the definition of religion and err'tinn...thats whats is driving them to think irrationally

felixomor:
Scroll up already posted by u on this thread and posted by 2 other pple too. Then confirmed by a third person.
Yea.

pure evidence of a counterfeit brain...
Wallow in ignorance

naijadeyhia:
I know you must feel terrible realising I am way smarter than you are. Its gutt wrenching right? I know that feeling!
I also know how you must see me....its quite understandable.

oh yes..i see the smartness..
Finding awt one was totally wrong and cannot present facts and then stylishly uses memes to cover the shame up..well done bro..
U deserve a nobel prize in ignorance...

hopefulLandlord:
Even the link one of them gave only said there were "rumours" of him being atheist

But guess what? In that same link he gave, there's a whole subheading given to his views that opposed atheism

They keep repeating "Hitler was an atheist" creating threads upon threads to that effect, they believe that if they repeat it a huge number of times, people would believe it when in fact Hitler is not atheist

So what my smart Christian did was to take "rumour" as "fact" while wishing away the true "fact" that he was against atheism while hoping we won't visit the link and read its contents, unfortunately for him, we did

Yet he calls us dumb? He must be dumber than dumb then

exactly...i repeated times witout number...read the links..they wudnt listen..
Ignorance at its peak brother...

felixomor:
Please hold it. Ur name wasnt mentioned. Before u start another argument against d obvious.

twas u who said i didnt mention my name.. Nd i jst showed u u were wrong..as always... M nt suprised...stick to the basics...a valid proof hitler was an atheist...

KingEbukaNaija:
Well , then Hitler was an atheist with a severe case of megalomania .

can u bring half a proof he was atheist?

felixomor:
U see, a guilty conscience has all fears.
I can see u even respond without ur name being mentioned. U can see even ur mind is disagreeing with urself.
Abeg, move aside.

u said so all three persons wud be swimmming in their beliefs...u said it as a defense mech...i was asking the three persons?..if its a single human who has another moniker u callin a third person..or a ghost?...
If u wanna be literal...we are actually four debaters so why saying three?..is hopefullandlord air?..
U cant even understand ur statement..how then can u understand a wikipedia page...
Oh..the irony

naijadeyhia:
Wow! No wonder you and hopefullandlord bond so well. Iggnorance at its peak. So this is what you could glean from all this?

Smh and chai for u

The Ignorance/Willfull Blindness Experiment
Atheism=the belief there is no god
Theism=the belief in gods or a god..
Religious=following the rules/forms of worship of a god..
Adolf Hitler= ''i am very religious'' ...condemn's atheism...supports the idea of a god as his creator and labels that god almighty...
TEST
Was hitler an atheist?
Naijadeyhia= Yes...he was a blody atheist..
Test Results
Naijadeyhia =A1 in ignorance...
Comes out top of his class...
Experiment Status=success 100%
p.s

hopefulLandlord:
Like I said, its cognitive dissonance

They can't prove he's atheist

They only prove he's "antichristian" which is not the same as "atheist" otherwise we could call Book Harams "Atheist"

I still honestly don't kno why its so hard for them to grasp

brother its really ludicrous...
Every other religion automatically becomes an atheistic organisation to the christians..
who's really lacking knowledge of atheism?

naijadeyhia:
There comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but he must take it because conscience tells him it is right.

Martin Luther King Jr.

Hopefullandlord your friend calls you.

if i take ur ideolgy for its stance..then in other words...islams who fight christians are atheists to christians and vice versa...
Or i am a true christian jst claiming atheism..and u are a pure atheist jst claiming christianity..and felix is a pagan worshipper jst fooling himself he is christian...
Thumbs up bro...look at how bemused u are..
P.s

naijadeyhia:
There comes a time when one must take a position that is neither safe, nor politic, nor popular, but he must take it because conscience tells him it is right.

Martin Luther King Jr.

Hopefullandlord your friend calls you.

so now u believe his mind had its views?..bt refused to acknowledge so when i said he had distorted views of christianity..wow..cheers..u jst confirmed the true hypocrisy...
Bt his conscience didnt tell him that atheists were his friends...wow..
I really love ur lame ideology

felixomor:
Some people have no shame. One person accusimg 3 of swimming in belief, from his own evidence. Its a pity.

i begin to wonder when atheism had a set of beliefs of worship...
I begin to wonder when atheists call the almighty god in most things...
I begin to wonder when disbelief breeds a set of beliefs...
I begin to wonder when an atheist wud ban atheists and condemn atheism...
Simple facts always eludes the ignorant
Nothing is not a thing...

felixomor:
Some people have no shame. One person accusimg 3 of swimming in belief, from his own evidence. Its a pity.

three?..u damogul and damoogul?..i mean u naijadeyhia and naijadeyhia?
U display ur ignorance everywhere..
Frm my own evidence?..wats ur claim here ?..cs u say ntin meaningful..present logics nt throwing words

naijadeyhia:
I have shown you what anti theism is and how ot is the same as atheism just slight ideology difference. Its not too hard to understand is it?


Anti theism and atheism are the same. The only difference is that one is an enforcer while the other is weak just like most Atheist here on NL. All they do is talk whild there are the physically aggressive ones who want to enforce their voews by all means necessary and that was Hitlers niche.

hitler wasnt even an anti theist...jst read up man...why arguing blindly?.....he was focused on erasing the jewish god frm being in high places in political organizations..which was a common trait of the catholic church den..he was on a kinda islamic jihad bt in his views of christianity meanwhile nt eliminating his religiousness...
Frm the lion's mouth

naijadeyhia:
I believe my post above has taught u somethinf new about your very own Atheism and how broad it is. Broader than your small mind can fathom.


Ignorant folks claiming knowledge. You and hopefullandlord need to have a lesson on knowledge and assimilation.

Finally, I would like to say something to those
people who keep talking to me about religion: I
am also religious, profoundly religious on the
inside, and I believe that Providence weighs us
human beings''--Adolf Hitler
26 March 1934;...case closed...
Hopefullandlord come see o

naijadeyhia:
I believe my post above has taught u somethinf new about your very own Atheism and how broad it is. Broader than your small mind can fathom.


Ignorant folks claiming knowledge. You and hopefullandlord need to have a lesson on knowledge and assimilation.

if truly u knw hw to read an assimilate...take
https://en.m.wikiquote.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
read and have a sense of reasoning...
Nt jst being ignorant cs of one's fantasies

naijadeyhia:
I believe my post above has taught u somethinf new about your very own Atheism and how broad it is. Broader than your small mind can fathom.


Ignorant folks claiming knowledge. You and hopefullandlord need to have a lesson on knowledge and assimilation.

ignorance is when someone calls a person who publicly condemned atheism an atheist...simple truth..

I think u need to google hitler's speeches....every single one of them...so u can understand and have knowledge of the man...
Also google deism and its branches..so ur mind can open up to the truth..rather than swimming in ur belief..

naijadeyhia:
Hitler was not Religious.

Hitler was Anti-theist which is an arm of Atheism.

Anti-theist

This group regularly speaks out against religion and religious beliefs, usually by positioning themselves as “diametrically opposed to religious ideology,”

“Anti-theists view religion as ignorance and see any individual or institution associated with it as backward and socially detrimental,”. “The Anti-Theist has a clear and – in their view, superior – understanding of the limitations and danger of religions.”

Anti-theists are outspoken, devoted and – at times – confrontational about their disbelief. They believe that “obvious fallacies in religion and belief should be aggressively addressed in some form or another.

The above explains why Hitler was relentlessly brutal against Jews during the Holocaust. I think you need to research your Atheism....it is not Just as simple as disbelief in god or gods or higher powers. Its more detailed than that.


http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2013/07/15/the-six-types-of-atheists/

jst look at what u are saying...someone who publicly condemned atheism an atheist..
Read those links properly man...u'd understand that hitler preferred islam to christians...christians were kinda shallow to him...hitler didnt hate other gods..jst the christiann god....
Someone who said my feelings point me to my god..smtin like that.
Thats why i said u shud read nazism....bt u wont...until u do u cant get the picture....for smone who banned atheistic activities an atheist..mehn ur thinking sef...
For someone who's nazi germany had sets of rules for worship in churches...they dnt jst believe in the idealogy of the jewish supernatural god...
Read up deism..u need to do ur research on nazism..i keep ringing it like a bell..yet..christianity is nt the only religion..

hopefulLandlord:
Even the link one of them gave only said there were "rumours" of him being atheist

But guess what? In that same link he gave, there's a whole subheading given to his views that opposed atheism

They keep repeating "Hitler was an atheist" creating threads upon threads to that effect, they believe that if they repeat it a huge number of times, people would believe it when in fact Hitler is not atheist

So what my smart Christian did was to take "rumour" as "fact" while wishing away the true "fact" that he was against atheism while hoping we won't visit the link and read its contents, unfortunately for him, we did

Yet he calls us dumb? He must be dumber than dumb then

exactly...i repeated times witout number...read the links..they wudnt listen..
Ignorance at its peak brother...

naijadeyhia:
Those 2 guys up there are so unintelligent it hurts.

I suppose the Holocaust happened before Hitler or after Hitler.

The Holocaust was the systematic annihilation of six million Jews by the Nazi regime during World War 2. In 1933 approximately nine million Jews lived in the 21 countries of Europe that would be occupied by Germany during the war. By 1945 two out of every three European Jews had been killed by Hitlers regime. So why did Hitler detest Jews and Christianity so much that he had over 6million of them killed. That's why I showed them Hitlers very words above.

They see but seriously lack understanding of anything.

the issue is nt whether hitler killed christians or not...the issue is whether he was an atheist or not...or maybe anyone who kills christians automatically become an atheist...lol..
Cs thats what ure tryna potray..
Or pro'ly christianity is the only religion na..ryt
If u read my posts...i clearly stated that hitler was against the christian god...not all gods guy...christian god and all gods are diffferent...
He had his own ideas of how christianityy shud be...which is nt normal..
The issue here is that he was religious....i told u...check religion in nazi germany...nazism and positive christianity...
Nazism was the religion...a kinda deism...
Hitler never for once..even one-half call himself an atheist...and he publicly condemned atheism like a lot..banned atheist sections..man read up befre concluding...truth hurts..
He always said he was a christian..if am to follow the way u think..then i'd say because hitler said he was a christian then he is a christian because he said it..and i'd simply ignore his killing of christians..is that nt cra'y?..
Mehn eida u park well and read smtin well..
Or niqqa u swerve.
P.s .Adolf Hitler was a religious man...and never an atheist...

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace,
and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
—Isaiah 45:7 ,
The translators of many modern Bible editions, aware of
the unsettling implications this verse holds for their
faith, have attempted to soften the blow by
translating it in a more palatable way. The New
International Version, for example, has this
passage say that God creates[b] "disaster",[/b] while the
English Standard Version has it as "calamity", and the Revised Standard Version says[b] "woe".[/b]
The
Message translation creatively renders this verse as "I make harmonies and create discords" nt punishing isreal abi na only isreal god create?.
Although these alternate translations wouldn't
seem to solve much, they are still not as faithful to
the original Hebrew than the KJV's unflinching
translation... The Hebrew word translated by the KJV
writers as "evil" in Isaiah 45:7 is "ra", and from textual evidence, it is clear that in the Bible this
word does mean evil in a moral sense. Here are
some of the other contexts in which it is used:
In Genesis 2:17, God instructs Adam and Eve not to
eat from "the tree of good and ra". The tree of good
and disaster? The tree of good and calamity?
Clearly
not: it is the tree of good and evil. In Genesis 6:5, God resolves to destroy humankind in the great flood because "the wickedness (ra)
of
man was great in the earth". apply calamity and disaster here man...its certainly evil...
In Genesis 13:13, the men of Sodom were "wicked
(ra) and sinners before the Lord
exceedingly". ..likewise here In Deuteronomy 1:35, a furious God threatens the
Israelites, "Surely there shall not one of these men
of this evil (ra) generation see that good land,
which I sware to give unto your fathers." ..more and more
In Judges 2:11, "the children of Israel did evil (ra)
in the sight of the Lord, and served Baalim"...oh shvt here again
In 1 Kings 16:30, the wicked king Ahab (husband of the infamous Jezebel) "did evil (ra)
in the sight of
the Lord above all that were before him". i dn taya abeg...
These and many other references make it clear that
the primary meaning of ra is indeed evil in the
sense of wickedness or sin. ...
Its clearly evident man...
If u doubt 'ra' wasnt used in these other texts...
Google search ''the bible text name in hebrew biblehub.com
i mean like
gen 6:5 in hebrew biblehub.com

KingEbukaNaija:
That has been discussed numerous times before . That verse means blessing the good and punishing the bad for their evil or rebellion . Just like what He'll do the atheists for their rebellion against Him

relax na...

hopefulLandlord:
You could see they have suddenly slowed down on the Hitler atheism talk, they've shot themselves in the foot

They've always hammered on an on that Hitler was atheist

That's their "belief" hence they're going through "cognitive dissonance" now that you've proven that he was in fact not atheist, their links even prove it but "belief" is a very strong thing, too strong for reason

I tell u brother ''belief''...resulting in sheer ignorance of facts jst to propel one's fantasy #''belief''...
Any rational human..who read those links wud see the simple tin there

Drienzia:
my brother, smh .. It's better to disbelieve and keep mute, than disbelieve and start bashing ... I saw nothing about you.. Its a sign u pulled out already! Even if u don't believe d holy book, still keep it in mind that God exist... My brother u need prayers! Our God is a merciful God

i did nt bash u.....i never even wanted to...
I was reallly enthusiastic to hear smtin..nvm tho

KingEbukaNaija:
Please don't derail my thread with foolish talk . If you have questions drop them here

ok sire...oya..lets roll
isiah 45:7

i feel the man's pain...its jst three tinz
1..[/b]his daughter whom he has been struggling for #school etc...is no longer a vi*rgin...and he has lost the pride of giving a vi*rgin daughterr awt for marriage in the future...hence he failed as a dad
[b]2..[/b]she brought the boy to his own house...she cud commit the act any other place bt she chose his house...#highest form of insult..
[b]3.[/b]im sure he was tipped off by a friend...imagine the shame he felt when he was told of such acts of his daughter ...pure disgrace..which wud nnt end...e.g if person's are talking bout him..he already has a title...[b]the man wey born that ashewo na/wayward girl
bt nevertheless...the punishment is by no meanns justified...its pure child abuse..and cud lead to mental unstability of the girl even suicide...
Two wrongs never make a right

It took 300 years of experiment and calculation to
pin down the speed at which light travels in a
vacuum: an impressive 186,282 miles per second. Light will travel slightly slower than this through air,
and some wild experiments have actually slowed
light to a crawl and seemingly made it go backward, but at the scales encountered in our everyday lives, light is so fast that we perceive our
surroundings in real time.



Look up into the night sky and this illusion begins
to falter.
"Because light takes time to get here from there, the
farther away 'there' is the further in the past light
left there and so we see all objects at some time in
the past"... explains Floyd Stecker of NASA's
Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland..

Light-years..
We see the relatively close moon as it was 1.2
seconds ago and the more distant sun as it was
about 8 minutes ago. These measurements—1.2
light-seconds and 8 light-minutes—can be thought
to describe both time and distance. The distance to more remote objects such as other
stars is so great it is measured in light-years—the
distance light will travel in a year, or about 6 trillion
miles (10 trillion kilometers).. Even the nearest star
system, Proxima Centauri, lies more than four light-
years away, so it appears to us on Earth as it was just over four years ago when the light began its
journey. In this way, light's finite speed gives us a valuable
view into the past, and as we strain our gaze
deeper into the universe we look further back in
time. "In the case of distant galaxies, we see them as
they were billions of years ago when the universe
was relatively young" Stecker said...
Out of sight
Some galaxies are so remote that their light hasn't
had sufficient time to reach us yet, despite about
13.7 billion years of travel. There could also be
more distant objects that will forever remain
unknown to us. "Because the universe is expanding and the
expansion appears to be accelerating, there may
be distant galaxies which if we can't see them now
because their light has not had time to reach us, we
will never see," Stecker said. So we can never see the universe as it is, only as it
was at various stages of its development. To interact with remote parts of the universe—to
see them as they are now—would require some
exotic means of travel, such as to travel faster than
light which, according to Einstein's special theory of relativity, is impossible as it would require an infinite amount of energy. "The equations of special relativity imply that
nothing can go faster then the speed of light in
empty space. Therefore, if super-luminal speeds are
possible in empty space, they violate the principle
of special relativity," Stecker told SPACE.com. Offbeat theories There are ways to travel faster than light that do not
violate special relativity, but these either outpace
light in a transparent medium such as water or do
not involve the transmission of information. To break light speed in space and gain the same
easy interaction with the universe that we
experience everyday on Earth is a task considered
practically impossible even when offbeat theories
are considered. "There are some postulated but unproven
theoretical models, inspired by the motivation to
unite the quantum theory with the general theory
of relativity, which violate special relativity," Stecker
said. These theories involve accelerating particles with
mass to super-luminal speeds using ultra high
energies. It may also be possible to take a shortcut
to distant parts of the universe through a tunnel in
space-time known as a wormhole. "If stable wormholes can exist in space-time and if
we can survive traveling through them, then they
could provide shortcuts as in the sci-fi movies,"
Stecker said.

tempem:
Ok, sir.

yes sir... We jst have to accpt the truth P.s i didnt write it..

hopefulLandlord:
You my good sir deserves a medal

thank you sir