₦airaland Forum

ijebuman:
Na karl marx talk am "Religion is the opium of the masses"

The day this happens will be the day a revolution happens in Nigeria

Think about this
"All religions are founded on the fear of the many and the cleverness of the few." - Stendhal

"Religion is what keeps the poor man from murdering the rich" - Napoleon Bonaparte

Ijebuman, thanks for providing us with a usefull analysis as usual.

"I waka many village anywhere in Africa, pastor's house na im dey fine past, my people dem dey stay for poor suroundings, pastor's dress na im dey clean past, it hard for my people for dem to buy soap, pastor na im dem give respect past & dem dey do baaad baaad things...


I waka many bizness everywhere in Africa, North & South dem get dem policies, 1 Christian & the other 1 Muslim, anywhwere the Moslems dem dey reign, na senior Alhaji na im be director, anywhere the Christians dem dey reign, na the best friend to Bishop na im be director... these money making organisations dem come put we Afrikans into total confusion...."

Fela Anikulapo Kuti

What a powerfull observation by the King of Afro beat....

vexxy:
Who remembers Vanessa William's CD? Do you think she'd rank any where or is she ineligible due to her only having one album?

Former miss America? Sure I do, she had 3 big hits - "save the best for last", "comfort zone" & a cover of guinn's "dreamin".

She would definitely rank somewhere below the artistes I mentioned. The first 4 I mentioned are very sophisticated singers, Vanessa could also be aptly described as sassy...

BTW, she had more than 1 album...

As per looks, she is one hot mamma jamma (first black miss America)

http://www.vanessawilliams.de/indexengl.htm

zeora:
girl is me and u my father nor my mother said i should marry to a black american they said they'll never step a foot in my house. so i snot only girl

Pardon me, i'm a tad confused.

" so i snot only girl" - what does this mean?

galala:
Free jazz is very cool. i personally like Sun ra and a guy called sunny murray who is the don of free jazz drumming. there are some cool compilations you can find on the net especially about the new york loft scene. check out ascension by coltrane and the live at the village vanguard recordings. smoking stuff!!!!

I'll check sunny murray out, but elvin jones still ranks as my favourite drummer of all times, his frenetic energy knocks me out.

Sun Ra? he's a bad (as in cool) guy, so are Albert Ayler & the father of them all - Ornette Coleman, he takes no prisoners....

joftech:
Why must the prophet in the land continue to lie to the people?

Good question, because a lot of my people are so daft & gullible. I do concur with your argument. For my cents worth, education is the key solution...

rihanna:
funny guy! my father plays a lot in my life he asked me to be a nun but i didn't want to so he said if i want to get married it shuld not be to an Akata (african american) of to a nigerian.

Are you happy to work within this constraint? Would you feel that you've cheated yourself, if you were to adhere to your pop's wishes?

rihanna:
hey[b] Goodguy[/b] i'm born African but raised here n i still got strong African roots. well wit' all these, my father is never going to let me marry an African american. i'm not Nigerian either n he said i'm never going to marry a Nigerian too. (no offense people it's nothin' personal)

Does that decision belong to you or your father? When was the last time you let your heart decide?

5 top Female R&b singers of the 90s?

premeier league

Anita Baker
Randy Crawford
Rachelle Ferrell
Regina Belle

juniour league

Mary J Blige

nferyn:
No I haven't, but you make me curious. I don't really know Jazz all that well. There are some things I like and that I want to listen to over and over again. Apart from that, I'm just an ignoramus on the subject. I'm quite happy you want to educate me though

Apologies for getting ahead of myself, please find below wikipedia's definition of free jazz:

Free jazz, or avant-garde jazz, is a movement of jazz music characterized by diminished dependence on formal constraints. Developed in the 1950s and 1960s, it was pioneered by artists such as Ornette Coleman, Cecil Taylor, Albert Ayler, Archie Shepp, Bill Dixon and Paul Bley. Some of the best known examples are the later works of John Coltrane. [i][/i]

To put it mildly, it is highly improvised, adventurous & unstructured jazz to the nth degree...

nferyn:
No I haven't, but you make me curious. I don't really know Jazz all that well. There are some things I like and that I want to listen to over and over again. Apart from that, I'm just an ignoramus on the subject. I'm quite happy you want to educate me though

Ornette coleman's "Free jazz, a collective improvisation by the OC double quartet" was a huge inspiration for Trane's 1965 Ascension album.

On John Coltrane & Don Cherry album,Trane's sheets of sound meets the Ornette coleman's harmolodics sound, however Ornette is missing on this album, this album or any of the ones i mentioned are not for people of weak construction, if you like music where a lot is going on behind the scenes then this album is a must, but I must warn you it has a very quirky nature...

There is no crime to fall in love, however you can only fulfill your relationship within the constraints of the law.

You can fulfill your fantasy when you come of age (whatever that legal age is within Nigeria) & not anytime before. Hope this helps?

nferyn:
Coltrane and Miles Davis fan.
I just love the eery sound of Davis' trumpet. His interpretations of Spanish classics in Sketches of Spai[/i]n chill me to the bone and bring tears to my eyes. If I need some real emotions, I just put on Davis.
[i]Kind of Blue is probably the standard to beat when it comes to improvising. Absolutely stunning

nferyn, have you listened to trane's collaboration with Don Cherry - The Avant Garde? A mind boggling take on Ornette Coleman's classics...

Who listens to free jazz? i'm a sucker for bebop but i'm also impartial to ragtime & free jazz, I saw the leading proponent - Ornette Coleman @the Cheltenham jazz festival, hard work but nonetheless rewarding!

EzehM, you mentioned some very smooth tunes, shame you had to include boney M in your mix...

Now with Melba Moore you can't go wrong, you must like "love me right" tune, are you familiar with Paul Laurence, Mystic Merlin, Broomfield, Bert Robinson, Pieces of a Dream, Lillo Thomas & Norwood?

Fabian you're making me blush (remember black men aren't supposed to blush?)

I didn't forget him, neither did I forget Chris Mba nor Ras Kimono. I rate them as very mediocre artistes. I did forget the Imo boys orchestra & Prince Nico Mbarga & warrior - all excellent artistes in their own rights.

Hey thanks Fabian & prettyH...

Fabian, it's all about the "groove" honey, I'm all for "moregroove", & much more

The list of Nigerian Musicians is a long one indeed; my list harkens a revisit to yesteryears.

Modern Nigerian music has suffered from its over-reliance on western ideas; this has had the impact of substituting the Nigerian/African sound for a western one.  I foster a huge admiration for the leading proponent of Apala music – Haruna Ishola, during his reign he did not result to the use of western instruments for the identity of his sound.

Fela is another example of an artiste that ensured his sound was not compromised by western influences, when Sly & Dunbar produced a version of his acclaimed “Army arrangement”, whilst he was serving a trumped up currency charge, Fela was very furious & rightfully so, as it is self-evident that Fela’s original recording is far superior to the aforementioned production. Another remarkable thing about Fela, was that he never resulted to the use of trained female vocals; the sound from his girls was raw, angular and above all very African in texture.

To appreciate the Nigerian sound, one needs to revisit or learn the juju sound from the 30s onwards to the 90s, the highlife music of the 50s, 60s & 70s, the Sakara legends – the great Abibu Oluwa, Yusuf Olatunji etc, the music of the Fuji kings – Ayinde Barrister & Kollington Ayinla & the hypnotic Afro-beat of Fela, Tony Allen & Orlando Julius inclusive.

Time does not allow me to expand further but nonetheless I hope this helps….
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Best Nigerian Musicians?

First and foremost, my initial choice would be Fela Anikulapo Kuti, for the hypnotic sound of his afro blend of funk. Others would be:

Ayinde Bakare (the great)
King Sunny Ade
Ebenezer Obey
Fatai Rolling $$$
Yusuf Olatunji
Ayinla Omowura
Haruna Ishola
Sonny Okosun
Victor Uwaifo
Orlando Owoh
Tunde Nightingale
Kayode Fashola
Ayinde Barrister
Oriental brothers
Igbekele gede
Irewolede Denge
Sunny Oguns
Suberu Oni
Nigerian Jolly Boys Orchestra
Bobby Benson
Orlando Julius

There are too many to mention, I am not a huge fan of the modern Nigerian sound, from a critical point of view, I feel the western culture has diluted the rich African sound, you may think this view is an antiquated one, but this is my take of things, theres not enough space & time to expand...

This is my first appearance on this site, so I'll kick off by "trowaying my salute" far & wide across the globe..

Tali Tali, I'm not sure that this assertion is true, thin girls prefer fat men? where on earth does this happen? Maybe this is a comfort to fat men? or maybe you are equating fatness with lukudi? or to put it rather simply thin girls love fat men because fat men have loads of dosh? For my penny's worth, it is utter nonsense!