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Emusan:
Just as your dumb skull still twisting
Did the spirit go back to God or not?
Confused being

Oponu..so you want it to be Him/She
When you lack the very understanding.

Which still leave you with question, do their spirit go back to God who gave it?

" It" , a thing

Still doesn't reboot your delusion, your case is sorry

Things are described as " it. "

- and if a Wicked person gets sent to hell, it is their whole body in hell, where is this body ? Deluded man.

Emusan:
Why you're still dwelling in your delusion
So who says they are the SAME PERSON before? See the mumu lying liar!
Already answered!

I only debunk your they are one vague claim. You admitted they are one does not mean same person.


As long as they are different persons, that's two persons , and one must be closer than the other going by those texts , Which ?

Emusan:
See the lying liar finding a place to hide

They are Spirits went to God who gave it or not?



You're not yet cure of this your lying mouth.

Spirit of man can't be breath since both were used in the same verse.



Keep trying, you'll get well soon

He gave it when he breath into Adam, That's the question your dumb head isn't asking. How did he gave it ? Spirit of man is the breath of life God gave him

Deluded man, God gave " it "

" It "

" It "

" It"
A thing.

The verse alone should have even school your dumb head.

This is apart from the Fact that 1pet did not made mention of human body , and even Revelation made it clear those who died in the sea/water will be released by the sea .

Emusan:
You still don't get it.

Rather it kills your dumbness

See ignorance, so what happened in the prison?

Hell is there in 1 Peter for you

- Whole body goes to hell, none of such in 1Pet .

- Those who died in Noah's day are in the Sea, and would be released from the waters/Sea not hell, says Revelation, not any prison.

Your ideas have no scrutiny

Keep trying, las las your dumbness will be cured.
But spirit is different from breath
But their spirit went to God who gave it
Spirit of man can't be his breath since both spirit and breath used together in the same verse

No single reference anywhere that spirit of a man goes to hell, because it's man's breath. NONE! You are exposed as the fraud you are.

What you would find as reference to hell is human body, Which your dumb self can't even process.

Emusan:
The deluded one! Who says they ONE PERSON?

Then who says so before, are you high on cheap thing?

Dumbest mind! How does it correlate with my post?

The answer already in my previous post.

Then I asked again, who says they are ONE PERSON? Dumbest thing.

You are back to normal, after the They are one nonsense.

Since they are different persons, who knows the Father deepest among this two persons , Son or Holy spirit ?

Emusan:
Ode....both are one!

The Father, The Word & Holy Spirit.

When the Bible was talking about NO ONE, it means the audience or anyone OUTSIDE the Godhead.

Simple comprehension is truly an issue for you.
When lack of simple comprehension is in play

You need Bible study.

Unless you are deluded, Both are not one person. And in fact, Being one doesn't mean we are same persons, Jesus pray his disciples are one, they are still Different persons .

So my question stands- Is it the person called " Son " or the person called " holy spirit " that knows the Father deepest ?

I repeat , both are not one person!!!

Emusan:
If you're blind to see it, it's not my fault.
You're still displaying your ignoramus! That's why I'm just laughing at your ignorance

The spirit in 1 Peter is human that's why an ignoramus like you have to twist it that Jesus went their to PREACHED JUDGMENT to them

See ignorance in display

Lemme keep laughing

HELL PRISON....yet the dumbest was claiming HUMAN BODY is needed in Hell but still claiming they are ANGELS.

Jesus is Dumb ?

Matt 5:30 "your whole body go into hell. "

Jesus emphasize repeatedly that Human body is needed in hell.

Which out right kill your idea.

What appear at 1Pet is prison , no human is said to be in prison, only a dumb one interpret it to mean hell, which lead to the question

- if this is hell for humans, where are the human bodies that is thrown there ?

Anyway, the point is the people in PRISON in 1 Peter are Spirit beings.

This point to human in Hell.



Keep it up



Your ignorance won't allow you to grab the point.

But lemme infused knowledge into your dumb skull again, which will take us back to the initial point.

1. Human has spirit in them
2. At death this spirit returned to GOD Eccl 12:7.
3. Since people destination after death was determined by their life on earth. The righteous have a place they will be until final judgement likewise the wicked.
4. Heaven is for righteous people while hell fire if for wicked.

According to Jesus, this wicked one will go to hell with their Soul and body,

Matt 5:30 " your whole body go into hell. "

This point totally destroy your human in hell prison idea. Jesus never mention or describe ordinary Spirits in hell, spirit is man's breath, he rather mention human bodies Repeatedly

Both the righteous and the wicked will be resurrected to face the FINAL JUDGEMENT.
5. The final judgement for the righteous is to receive various crown while the final judgement for the wicked is to lake of fire together with the devil.

You're super dumber

Do you saw where it says those who died in the Sea ar not in this hell ? People of Noah's day are in the sea and it's the Sea that would release them not prison. Your ideas ar total fiction.

Ode.... you still don't get it, Jesus didn't say BOTH MUST BE, that's still your ignoramus in play.

He did . He repeatedly emphasize body going to hell, not once did he mention spirit in hell, because spirit of man Is his breath

Emusan:
Your dumbest is glaring here


Jesus chooses those HE REVEALS the FATHER to. So stop typing rubbish.

But that's not what the text says you just added that for further confusion

You can see that you're not smart at all.


That's the point. Which is among the listeners of Jesus.

Very well!

But remember ONLY PERSON have ability to know.

Above point is enough for your question unless you're still drowning in lack of simple comprehension.

1Corinthians 2:11

" no one can know God’s thoughts except God’s own Spirit. " NLT

According to this text, Jesus didn't reveal the Father's thought to holy spirit before he knows it, he knows the Father's deep thought than NO ONE ELSE, which include Jesus.

So the question again: Is Jesus lying when he claimed to be the one who reveal the Father to all others ? Or you admit it's the holy spirit that reveal the Father to Jesus ?

Emusan:
They are not! Stop saying nonsense.
Do you know the son? Is the question you've been avoiding since

Don't forget this your point "The statement said " nobody ( other person's or people ) knows the son except the Father "

So do you know the son?

Says the dumb skull who has been jumping from Pilar to post since

You are dumb like I always tell you

“This is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent”

Yes I know Jesus , But not as Deep as the Father knows him. And I know the Father but not as Deep as Jesus knows him.

The problem is Jesus claim to be the one who knows the Father deepest and he chooses who to reveal him to , But another text claim Holy spirit knows the things of the Father deepest than anyone else. Which make me ask the question: Who is closest between Jesus and holy spirit ?

Emusan:
Says who? You the confused one

That's a reference to human, Jesus didn't come to help Angels

Show me Help in that text ?

To be in hell requires the human body , Jesus stress this with statements like
" Body and soul in hell "
" Two eyes in hell "

" Two hands in hell "

Buddy, if this were humans, Where are the evidence for human body ?

spirit in that 1pet refer to angels , and the text didn't say they were helped . That's what a confuse person resort to when they have no answers.

Oponu both hell and workers of iniquity were still cast into lake of fire.

I will enlighten you.

" And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire "

[first and foremost]


Those in the sea, who died in waters were not released by hell, but by the sea.

The text of 1Pet 3 was reffering to those in the days of Noah, the humans of that time died in the Waters/Sea !!! . They clearly are not the ones in the so called hell prison. This is the second irrefutable proof. Apart from the human body proof.

Then Book of life was still rechecked, showing they were not condemned in any prison before, if they were there won't be any need to recheck. Unless your dumb theology means God make mistake .

Again, Jesus never said BOTH body and soul, that's just your ignorance of the scripture.

You are dumb

" Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell."- NIV

Jesus said both, so show me body at 1pet ?

Mumu

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utibe1995:
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Emusan:
So are you not part of that OTHER PERSON'S OR PEOPLE?

see dumbest in higher places

Keep jumping from Pilar to post for different meanings.

Only you know how many meanings you've given that single verse

Not "MORE" again but "CLOSEST"

More and closest refer to the same thing, one person claim to know the Father than all others , is it the son or the spirit ?

Buddy you lost ?

Emusan:
Keep changing mouth.

the condemned spirits are already in prison which means they already received judgment, yet the dumb skull still claiming Jesus preached JUDGMENT to them

I love where this is going buddy.

- this prison is the same as hell , For this to refer to humans, both body and soul is required. Which doesn't exist here, this is a reference to angels,and angels are not helped.

- secondly they already received judgement. But Hell , this prison, release the dead in it and the book of life was checked for their sakes, which means some names were found in the book of life how come ? Who condemn them to prison in the first place when they are innocent ?

Keep struggling with that scripture your deliverance is on the way
I can see from your dumb skull

You mean you are struggling with seeing both body and soul are present in hell ? Not just some spirit ?

Emusan:
I've done that, which you're still contending with
Just as the same Jesus statement means anyone who knows the son should be the Father yet you know the son
Keep adding to the text until your dumb doctrine is satisfied

You are dumb.

The statement said " nobody ( other person's or people ) knows the son except the Father "

It's not saying anyone that knows the Son is the Father but none of them know him close to how the Father does .

That's even Different to the matter at hand .

We are given two different texts where two persons alluded to be the closest to the Father. Who is the liar ?

Emusan:
You're displaying your ignoramus more keep it up.
I won't give you the Bible study you're craving for.
Your lack of comprehension is the one putting you into more confusion, I understand

If I'm blind, I won't be able to see in other to tell you that Jesus didn't come to help Angels but human as you lied earlier

Definitely, you're the blind and dumb skull here

There is no help in the text, no part of the text said Jesus release and free the Angels. That's help, buddy, you did comprehension in school ?

God destroy Both body and soul in hell, both have to exist . This is out of the picture in the 1Pet verse. Stop being blind

Am the one giving you bible study here Buddy

Emusan:
Interesting from the lying liar

From the lying liar mouth.

It's now about the context

If I lie, point out the lie or keep shut.

Jesus statement means he knows the Father than anyone else , True or false ?

Yet the context isn't about WHO KNOWS THE FATHER MORE, that's just from your twisted mouth

Two different texts saying Different things begs the question: Who knows the Father more ?

Emusan:
That's the whole point.

You added it because it suits your dumb doctrine.

I like that

" Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Instead, fear the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. "
Matt 10:28

God doesn't destroy just soul in hell, he destroy both, simple English , meaning both exist in hell.

How did you place spirit in prison or hell text to mean human spirit where there body isn't there ? Is God destroying only one thing ?

Why you are so blind buddy?

Emusan:
Do you know the son? Ode...

I do , but not as The Father.

You will agree the context is not saying others don't know the Father , but none come close to the Son

Which begs the question: going by what Jesus said and what Paul said, who knows the Father more between this two persons, Jesus or Holy spirit ?

Emusan:
You can keep asking confused soul

locked !

Emusan:
You're still lying keep it up, only if you know how dumb you sound.

They are human spirits
And you added "MUST"

Lying liar and confused person

Yes , correct .... One can't exist without the other , the text said " BOTH."

If human spirit is a being, wht then is the soul that goes to hell ? .

Are they the same Despite used differently in same sentences.

I still demand this @Emusan

Emusan:
Lemme rephrase your point to you again "No one knows the Son except the Father means nobody else comes close to the person of the Father, no other person! I understand you are going through cognitive dissonance since you claim to know the son

Buddy, of all persons that exist ... i who knows the Father more, is it the son or the spirit ?

Emusan:
Dumb skull, "preaching to" has changed to "judge"

You can preach judgement on a person.

The text didn't say he went and deliver them from the prison.

Those are not humans, for an human to be in hell, they need their human body.

I'm not but it's evident you're blind and a liar because Jesus didn't say "that body and soul MUST be together in hell" as you implied earlier

Jesus use " both " body and soul , Don't be a fool.

Emusan:
Or you're displaying your ignoramus

Correct according to the holy book
Which the first statement you made is a lie, ko?

See the reason I said you're confused

No contradiction just the way your brain was wired to understand it.

We have since even before you were born.

Only the Father knows the son yet you claim to know the son, are you the Father?

No one knows the Father except the Son means nobody else comes close to the person of the son, no other person! I understand you are going through cognitive dissonance.

This force the statement that No one knows the things of God except the spirit of God to be either Lie or the spirit is not a person.

Emusan:
This alone shows how dumb you are.
Your dumb skull can't figure that out.

Alright Mr much sense

Says the dumbest mind.

Do more reading on what that verse mean, maybe your empty skull will grab it

After your lying mouth was exposed that Jesus didn't come to help Angels, I understand though

Jesus will judge angels.

Jesus never said that just your dumb skull did.

Read what Jesus said again, this time slowly and slowly

Fear him who can throw body and soul in hell, are you blind? You can't see body ?

Emusan:
Yet you claim to know the son when it's the only FATHER who knows the son

I only test a theology. Spirit of God is a person

According to the Bible , no one knows the things of God except the spirit of God. Which means spirit of God if it's a person is far closer to the Father than Jesus .

Whereas Jesus said this is impossible, no one knows the Father except the Son.

This is a blatant contradiction here, Either Jesus lied or Paul lied.

Idiots who held to Trinity can't even solve this dillema, two persons claiming to be the closest, one must be true and the other either a liar or not a person to begin with.

Emusan:
Rather you're the dishonest person playing with word.

You make it seems it's ALWAYS MEAN BREATH
I never deny it, do I?

But do you agree that Ruach also mean SPIRIT?
Now you're talking. So which means it not ALWAYS MEAN breath as you're crying over since.
Where did I deny it?

Are you not the dumb mind trying to make it look like it Always MEANS BREATH?

Ruach as spirit , is the same as Ruach as breath. No difference.

This is why your ignorance won't allow you answer what is a soul, if spirit is a being .

It means in man it means more than animal reason majority of scholars agreed to it as being for man and reason the Bible says It'll go back to God while that animal will have no reason to go to back to heaven.

Your scholars are dumb

Psalm 104:29 describe Ruach for ALL CREATURES as their breath !

Your is more dumbest.

You don't need thought on judgment day.

You can't prove it further.

It's evident you don't understand those verses
Liar, Jesus didn't come to help Angels but human.

How long will you continue to defend your dumb doctrine?
Lol...... definitely you don't understand Jesus there.

Jesus never come to help Angels, saying that alone shows you lack scriptural knowledge.

Definitely you don't understand Jesus Christ there.

A text about preaching proves this is for people with a mind. To preach is to send a message. This totally rule out the idea of human spirit as a being, their thoughts has perish. They can't be preached to !!

It even said " prison" not hell, to claim some people go to prison and some other to hell proved God is partial. You are forced to read prison as hell. Which is not there because of your ignorance

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If the text refer to human, I ask how come their human body is not there ? Is Jesus lying now that body and soul MUST be together in hell ?

Emusan:
Still proving his confusion

Google is there for you not me

Lost cause.

If spirit is already a being, your ignorance don't even know what to place as the soul. Or else he admit both are the same

Emusan:
Keep twisting mouth like a confused person

Point out what was twisted, if two things appearing together mean they are different

Can you explain what is the soul, since the spirit is what goes for judgement,? Both usually appear together , or are they the Same thing ?

Emusan:
You can begin to read my post since I join nairaland

Are you afraid, ?

If truly We have three persons here

Person of the Father

Person of the Son
And person of the spirit.

Between the Son and holy spirit, do you agree the son is closest to the Father going by the text that said nobody knows the Father except the Son ?

Emusan:
I have dealt with this long time ago.

And no one knows the son except the Father but you claim to know the son today, so are you the Father?

Show me where you answer the question.

If nobody in heaven or Earth knows the Father except the Son , Do you admit the person of the son is closer to the Father than holy spirit ?