Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 5:40pm On May 05, 2022 |
Emusan: I know you'll never address my point.
No wonder you keep jumping from different verse to another.
The early verse you quoted proved that spirit and breath of life are used in the same verse which means they are different.  Soul and spirit are also used in the same verse. Dont they mean the same thing in your context here ? What goes for judgement is spirit right ? What happen to the Soul ? You are confused fellow |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 5:38pm On May 05, 2022 |
Emusan: No the spirit of God isn't in animal.
Unless if you classify yourself as animal 
The last part shows that you know spirit and breath are of two different things.
You still haven't given us the full meaning of Rauch. 
Does it mean Ruach always MEANS BREATH?
Until you deal with that dishonesty in you, you can't get it Nice word play, it has become " always means " . You finally agree Ruach means breath. This is the same word translated spirit. Something your gullible sef have been denying since. What else does Ruach meant as applicable to man and animals ? I know you lack simple comprehension but I'll help you. His thought perish mean the person doesn't have power over his thought as the only thing left is judgement. This is a foolish argument. To get Judgement requires your thoughts. No thought, means no life. This means what goes out is breath, it carries no idea of a thinking living person. Your next statement proves it right . So who are the one in prison in that verse?
His thought perish because nothing done after that counts only judgment next.
Get that into your empty skull The text said Jesus preach to spirits in prison . This means this are people capable of thoughts. Not humans whose thought perish at death, preaching requires your mind. This are clearly not ghosts, but angels. The ridiculous thing about this text is you interpret the prison here to mean hell. Contradicting what Jesus said about hell ' Fear who can destroy body and soul in hell ' . To be in hell requires an human body. Your idea has been spirit in hell, which doesn't rhyme with the requirement here, those in prison are angels, any reference to man in hell must be with their body. |
Celebrities › Re: My Twin - Davido Shows Off Hailey Adeleke by RealTalker02: 10:48am On May 05, 2022 |
Waakanda: Wow... no need for a DNA test  Davido aside. Child fit resemble the papa , belong to someone else though |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 4:40pm On May 04, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 4:39pm On May 04, 2022 |
Emusan: Says the dumb one!
It's evident that breath is different from spirit
“If He should determine to do so, If He should gather to Himself His spirit and His breath, All flesh would perish together, And man would return to dust."
Definitely, both the Spirit of God and breath are in human. Spirit of God is in animals too Genesis 7:22 And they have breath. Does it mean a being is inside of them? In the psalms: All creatures look to you to give them their food at the proper time. 28 When you give it to them, they gather it up; when you open your hand, they are satisfied with good things. 29 When you hide your face,(C) they are terrified; when you take away their breath, [ Ruach ] they die and return to the dust If ruach is a being, animals possess it too. To even say when Ruach translated to English means breath shows the dishonesty in you.
What returned to GOD is Spirit
Delusion is when you substitute it for breath when in true meaning it's spirit. Psalm 104:29 is in your Bible, Ruach was translated breath. Deal with it. The being also went to heaven  ' His spirit goes out, that day his thoughts perish ' If his spirit continues to think , and is a person going to heaven, the thought won't have perish. 1Pet 3:19 did not ever say Spirit went to hell. Nowhere in the Bible is spirit of man said to be a being that goes anywhere. That day his thoughts perish. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 4:25pm On May 04, 2022 |
Emusan: Olodo....
But other verses distinguished spirit from breath of life.
Your answer is in eccl 3:21  Eccl 3:21 Who knows if the human spirit rises upwards and if the spirit of the animal goes down into the earth?” The writer asked a question, how does this change the Fact that animals possess The same spirit like man. The same Hebrew word Ruach, no distinction. Verse 19 Surely the fate of human beings(A) is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath ; humans have no advantage over animals. Everything is meaningless. Exactly the same. To claim man's own is a being , is to claim animals own is also a being |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 2:56pm On May 04, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 2:48pm On May 04, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 2:38pm On May 04, 2022 |
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Properties › Re: Lagos Resident Laments The Invasion Of His Compound By Monkeys (Photos, Video) by RealTalker02: 5:42am On May 04, 2022 |
Kwamecron: Better meal,
Just like u discovered oil well in ur compound.
Make una set them trap and make a leaving out of it.
Ppl don’t really kw how God answer their prayer My first thought when I saw the thread. He could make nice meal out of em |
Properties › Re: How I Pay My Rent by RealTalker02: 6:02pm On Apr 28, 2022 |
Nonexisting: Your previous self contain place was only 140k and just because of ordinary parlour, you moved to where you are now paying 300k which is not even big as you said. You no get sense walai. I'm out of this thread.   |
Family › Re: Which Bills Do You Hate Paying The Most? by RealTalker02: 2:49pm On Apr 22, 2022 |
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Food › Re: How Did You Survive Living Alone Without Cooking? by RealTalker02: 2:06am On Apr 22, 2022 |
DreamSonInlaw: I have always have an understanding heart towards women but I have new height of respect for you guys now. Lost my sister recently & her kids have been with me for the time being..I go to work and come back & have to figure what they will eat..not like I'm a good cook..mahn, its peak! Sorry about your sister May God comfort you Bro |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 7:58pm On Apr 20, 2022 |
Emusan: It's evident you have comprehension issue!
Check other translations for better understanding of that verse, the point isn't that there won't be judgment but there will be judgment but the appointed time for that wasn't set, so far this supported my point that both the dead will appear before God on judgement day.
But in that verse the distinction was made.
So which means spirit is different from breath of Life.
Again, another time Spirit will be distinguished from Breath.
You keep exposing your ignorance!
How can you provided two separate verses where Spirit and breath were totally used together and you still believe they are the same? 
No! It's the spirit being of the person that died You are missing it , don't you? The verse said Ruach ( spirit ) is located in the NOSTRILS , reffering to breath, Animals even have it too. That dignified my point. You won't say animals have spirit beings inside of them. Think! Already answered! Stop repeating question.
The spirit appears before God. It's not, What's the identity of this spirit ? - breath in the NOSTRILS Or - spiritual body ? John chapter 3, criteria for a man to become a spirit , " what is born of spirit is spirit. Are wicked people born of spirit too ? If your theology is correct , everybody is born of spirit then. You see how dumb it all sound You don't understand it, do you?
The unrighteous will be resurrected, true or false?
Yet you claimed spiritual body is only available at resurrection. So which body will the unrighteous have at resurrection?
You can't eat your cake and also have it. I didn't claim, the Fact is there, Spiritual body is raised in Glory, power , and imperishable I know Sinners and wicked people won't share Christ Glory. So when I said they won't have spiritual body, am saying facts. Only your dumb theology is trying to give them Christ Glory. Unrighteous don't go to heaven, they will be ressurected on this Earth. the most idiotic thing about your idea is it make it mean God makes mistakes, After being judged after death, God will still proceed to have another final judgement at Revelation 20 , Make you wonder if God make a mistake in the first judgement he is trying to rectify |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 6:48pm On Apr 20, 2022 |
Emusan: I read, do you? But the text says people will appear before Him for judgment, or you didn't understand that part?  He set no appointed time for that. If it were literal, you won't have a problem answering in what body the persons appear! Also, short before that verse, verse 14 says "If he fixes his attention* on them, If he gathers their spirit and breath to himself,+"
Here Spirit was distinguished from breath  Let me remind you , that the word spirit in Verse 14 is still Ruach, according to scriptures, Ruach of fleshly beings is in their Nostrils " Everything on the dry land, all in whose NOSTRILS was the breath and spirit of life, died. " amplified Bible Genesis 7:22 The same Ruach appear at Ecclesiastes, found in mankind nostrils. Their breath. I think the problem here is you, because I've said earlier that it is the SPIRIT that went to heaven.
The spirit that returned to God after death. The spirit that return to God is Ruach, found in the nostrils of men. Your argument is that it has other meaning, Which demand the question , In which body do this one's appear before God ? • Spiritual body is not available until Ressurection. No! They don't raise in glory but to demnation. So don't deviate from the main point.
The dead will APPEAR BEFORE GOD, according to those scriptures.
Also, 1 Corinthians 15 never said the spiritual body ONLY BELONG TO SOME PEOPLE but Aall resurrected people. So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. NIV This listed the quality of the Spiritual body • imperishable • Raised in Glory • Raised in power To claim all ressurected ones have this is to Claim All of them are raised in Glory, So your dumb theology means Even sinners and wicked people share In Christ Glory when they stand before God. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 4:53pm On Apr 20, 2022 |
Emusan: Funny enough you quoted that Job yet you couldn't see the obvious point there.
The Bible says you'll stand before God to give account as even confirmed by that job you quoted. You don't read ? “For He sets no appointed time for a man, That he should appear before Him in judgment. " - Job 34 : 23 Amplified Bible. Do you read the bold ? He set no time for anyone to appear before him for judgement. You already provided the verse at Ecclesiastes that ALL SPIRIT MUST RETURN TO GOD.
I only told you the reason why the spirit there can't be breath of Life as you earlier claimed.
I didn't say it rather Bible said so.
"For we must all appear* before the judgment seat of the Christ, so that each one may be repaid according to the things he has practiced while in the body, whether good or bad.* 2 Corin 5:10 NWT
If we will all stand before judgment SEAT OF CHRIST and give account of everything will did WHILE IN THE BODY it means it must be over spirit being that'll do that.
Just because it didn't dance to your tune  The problem with your theology is it can't explain in what form this persons Exist without entering serious problems. According to 1Corinthians 15, no one get the spiritual body until Ressurection. where did your theology get this body when Ressurection haven't occur ? I demand an answer Secondly, Spiritual body is for those who belong to Christ like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly. So wicked people also belong to Christ , and are raised in Glory ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 1:08pm On Apr 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: "Going to heaven to stand before God"
Can you quote a single verse in any version of your choice where that is explicitly stated?  Good one. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 1:03pm On Apr 20, 2022 |
Emusan: Lol...what does constitution say about someone that steal?
Did Nigeria constitution condemn terrorists?
Yet Jesus is lying in Matt 12:36 And Paul was also lying in Roman 14:12, 2 Corinthians 5:10 
No wonder you quickly tag it SYMBOLIC 
Yet Jesus Himself says people will be judged, He also repeated it through Paul that EVERYONE WILL STAND BEFORE HIM, and finally confirmed it through John in Revelation when John saw "And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Then another book was opened, which is the book of life. And the dead were judged by what was written in the books, according to what they had done."
You'll continue to change all those scripture by yourself just because you hate the truth.
Meaning Stand before God in which kind of body , physical is out of it. You are left with spiritual body, this is enough to make you rethink. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 12:58pm On Apr 20, 2022*. Modified: 1:18pm On Apr 20, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 9:24am On Apr 20, 2022 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 7:50am On Apr 20, 2022 |
Emusan: No! The bodies ended up in grave while their spirits went to heaven Do you really peddle this weak and dumb idea ? , Every man's spirit return to God in heaven after death. Good or bad, wicked or righteous, Heartless or kind. This is not the persons, or it would mean everybody goes to heaven. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 7:46am On Apr 20, 2022 |
achorladey: The Bible you carry states in 1 Timothy 3:16,17 it is God's word that is inspired. The religious organization set up by men today feeds from the the Bible not the bible feeding from the church. The discussion centred here are what the scripture says not what your church says. It sometimes spill into some of the teachings of your religious organization and other denominations yet the base is what you the Bible says.
Learn. No dey carry the name of your religious organization like calf to be worshipped. True. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 7:38am On Apr 20, 2022*. Modified: 8:14am On Apr 20, 2022 |
MaxInDHouse: Perhaps you never studied the scriptures with meditation Sir!
A Governing Body is a group of older men of the faith in Christ who are appointed as overseers of Jesus' flock. Before Jesus left he appointed Peter the apostle as the spokesperson of that little group whom he called "Apostles" that's why Jesus said:
"I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." Matthew 16:19
Jesus also commanded this same Peter saying:
When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?" "Yes, Lord," he said, "you know that I love you." Jesus said, "Feed my lambs." John 21:15
That's why you'll notice Peter always speaking up for the group {Act 1:13} anytime the need arises or whenever they're questioned! Act 2:14; 3:4,12; 4:19; 5:29
But does that mean Peter has become infallible since Jesus chose him as spokesman for the Apostles? The answer is NO! Because the same Peter failed woefully to acknowledge gentiles who has been baptized with God's Holy Spirit in the presence of Jewish Christians {Galatians 2:11-14} despite the fact that God has forewarned him not to discriminate against believers due to racism! Act 10:15
So there was a GOVERNING BODY in the first century and Apostle Paul whom Jesus used to correct peter acknowledged this BODY that's why he always report back to them:
As they traveled on through the cities, they would deliver to them for observance the decrees that had been decided on by the apostles and the elders who were in Jerusalem. Act 16:4 compare to 15:2
Apostle Paul emphasized on the need for all the Christian congregations to OBEY the counsel of the GOVERNING BODY! Hebrews 13:7, 17
So if you don't know that there was a GB after Jesus' ascension to heaven that's not my fault Sir!  Peter is one man, your example best describe the Pope. Do you agree the Pope is God's spokesperson too ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Jesus Mean When He Said, "Today You Will Be With Me In Paradise"? by RealTalker02: 7:27am On Apr 20, 2022 |
Ken4Christ:
The thief actually went to paradise the very day he died. Paradise in this context is not referring to heaven. It was Abraham's bosom where saints of old went to when they die. It's also underneath the earth and separated from hell by a deep gulf as revealed in the story of the rich man and Lazarus.
But after the resurrection of our Lord Jesus, they were all released from that paradise and went to heaven with Jesus when he ascended back to heaven. It's funny how many of you want the fire in that story to be literal, but Bosom of Abraham is not literal but a paradise. You are a joke Jesus didn't call Abraham Bosom a Paradise, it's what it is, a literal bosom of a man called Abraham. So all the old saints fix into the bosom of one single man ?. Don't tell me otherwise, or else everything in that story also becomes an illustration |
Family › Re: Is Modern Marriage A Scam? My Own Story by RealTalker02: 11:28pm On Apr 17, 2022 |
ExcelDBM: Don't mind him. I have personally talked tough about the consequences anyone will face in trying to cajole me to marry. They fell for a scam and also want me to fall for a scam like them. Dimwits.  Smart human |
Family › Re: Is Modern Marriage A Scam? My Own Story by RealTalker02: 11:26pm On Apr 17, 2022 |
ExcelDBM: The honest truth is that you married folks are wicked. Most of the times, you guys are in an unhealthy marriage but will sing like bees into the ears of singles pressuring them to get married and suffer like you. You even had to make unverifiable statements to cajole others into evil. It won't work Mr. And the bolded are all lies. This is the truth. Most of Them are wicked beings, looking for who will become miserable like them |
Family › Re: Is Modern Marriage A Scam? My Own Story by RealTalker02: 11:23pm On Apr 17, 2022 |
Nuttella: My marriage won't be a scam in Jesus name, Amen.
If you marry an unbeliever, whatever you see, just take it, the devil has settled you. No compassion or anything. Insensitive and judgemental human being. |
Music/Radio › Re: When Last Did You Listen To Radio. by RealTalker02: 5:44am On Apr 12, 2022 |
Kenog4real: I use know of one on Ibadan Ọ̀yọ́ state then. I don't know if the program is still on. Can I know the Frequency to get the program? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Beautiful Picture Of Married Couples Of Jehovah's Witnesses by RealTalker02: 8:47am On Apr 10, 2022 |
ChocolateWine: Fact check:
Jehovah's witnesses have the most united families than any religious denomination in the world. That can never change.
It wouldn't be hard to tell why because what they're learning is transforming their lives.
I laugh at people who think they know Jehovah's witnesses, but know absolutely nothing, all they know about them is from hearsay. 2 Cor 4:4
Thank God for sincere testimonies like this That doesn't mean there are not some bad eggs, you are trying too hard to paint a perfect Picture by dismissing those who share negative Experiences as " hearsay" . Which is very dishonest of you. |
Crime › Re: RRS Stops 67-Year-Old Man From Jumping Into Lagoon On His Birthday by RealTalker02: 6:16pm On Apr 05, 2022 |
waterbrown24: The only word I captured "my wife left me" sad!
I have literally come to a conclusion that 99% of Nigerian women most especially this current generation, will live you in your time of need, dispair and financial struggles... Saw that too. |
Family › Re: Is Cheating Enough Reason To Leave A Legal Marriage ? by RealTalker02: 2:14pm On Apr 03, 2022 |
safarigirl: Yes, cheating is enough reason to leave a marriage
It just does not happen the same way in Africa. In Africa, it is only the man that people will understand if he leaves the marriage, but women are expected to endure a cheating spouse.
So, women endure, and wait for a side chick like Chidinma to kill the idiot. U may be correct to certain extent that a woman is expected to endure cheating spouse... But I still maintain , Any man or woman who is affected by cheating should leave. Let people talk.... If e give her AIDS, na that time people go Understand? |
Family › Re: Is Cheating Enough Reason To Leave A Legal Marriage ? by RealTalker02: 2:11pm On Apr 03, 2022 |
greatiyk4u: This is referencing legally married persons not two fornicators deceiving themselves with the non Afrjcan word "fiancee"......You are either married or single QED
What Is Infidelity? Infidelity, or cheating, is the act of being unfaithful to a spouse or other partner. It typically means engaging in sexual or romantic relations with a person other than one's significant partner, breaking a commitment or promise in the act.
If u have ever been the victim of infidelity, the first question you probably asked was, "why?" The consequences of infidelity are numerous, and it is only natural to want to know why your partner chose to cheat, even if knowing why doesn't bring you any relief. There could be any number of reasons, and there are many types of infidelity and cheating that could shed a little light on those reasons.
Not every act of infidelity is premeditated and driven by dissatisfaction with a current relationship…Maybe they were drinking or in some other way thrown into an opportunity they didn't anticipate.
Infidelity is not enough reason to leave a legal Marriage since it is a situation that can be amended. Until you realize not all cases can be amended and people process hurt differently. This your statement here is grossly Silly. Even God permit divorce on the basis of infidelity, So who are you to say the above ? |