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Christistruth00:
Your dictionary proves the point

There was heavy politics going on in the governance of Yorubaland
between different power holding parties Long before the Europeans arrived
my of the disagreements were resolved through devates among their Chiefs and people.

In fact many of the Proverbs of Yorubaland today were from those debates they had with themselves

Parties ninu monarch system, England go get parties oo 🤣🤣😁

Ooh now i know why yoruba luv owanbe, we like holding parties

YesDaddyTill203:
The President is not a moomoo like you to even try such a draconian move. He knows better.

ode Is it even about moomoo or FG is just playing politics considering northern vote ...

i repeat if FG nullify Sharia law today .. heaven wont fall. of what use or benefit is that nunsense law

A law that condones adult sleeping with children or law that promote blood shedd its barbaric if i am being modest

US have no business with the north, if the sharia law mistaken pass im boundary esp. now, you extremist go hear am

Una know sovereignity Buh you dont know how to respect humans fundamental right

sovereignity naa hausa language abi naa arabic

YesDaddyTill203:
The US can't tell any country or region which laws to implement.

The Christian fanatics in the US congress are nothing but jokers. The same clowns don't even care about crimes in their districs such as Cancun Ted that goes on vacation while Texas was experiencing a disaster.

They can and they have, US can order a 3rd world country like Nigeria IF it life threatening,

The northerners are luck, We have president that condone there excesses ... if Govt nullify Sharia today heaven wont fall how many of these old men will be at the battle front carrying gun to fight for sharia instead they will brain wash youths to go n die

FG can end Sharia .. if they want to, protest or fight Govt will win

Christistruth00:
That was Power tussle with heavy Politics!!!

It was Political Wisdom and Sagacity Alaafin used to finally checkmate Basorun Gaa

There was heavy Politics going on in Yorubaland long before the British arrived !!


If not for Political restraint Ibadan Warlords would have fought each other to death inside Ibadan itself !!!
It was Politics that prevented the Egbas and Ijebu from destroying each other because they had a Common enemy
the Ibadan

It was Politics that made Oduduwa to make Obatala his deputy even after he had already defeated him in War
because if Oduduwa didn’t do that Obatala’s Party followers could raise up again with big trouble that could
ruin Ife but they were given a relevant place in the political sphere of things

It was not only Europeans that understood and practiced politics!!

Stop relegating Your Yoruba Ancestors and what they did.
Many Yoruba Kingdoms were founded purely through politics without any War involved at all

It was the Politics of Ile Ife
that led to the founding the Iwo Kingdom
Until Kiriji Iwo Kingdom was known for its unique skill and ability at
avoiding Wars and achieving its objectives through delicate Political negotiations

When you were dealing with tyrants like Kurunmi of Ijaye
who you had no hope of defeating in
War it was Politics that you used to pacify him


It was not Europeans that introduced Politics to Yorubaland!!!!

Me i don leave you with dictionary, infact l wont be surprise if you have a textbook that claims naa we teach colonial masters politics/government sef

Christistruth00:
It was not Europe that introduced Politics to Africa !!!
It was Politics that Alaafin Abiodun used to relate with Basorun Gaa for years
before Basorun Gaa was finished off

Basorun Gaa had his own Party while Alaafin Abiodun had his own Party


A party is a Political group of supporters organised for governance

Thank god we born last year saw the movie House of Gaa... what happened between Alaafin and Gaa is power tussle not politics ..

We saw GAa oppressing the king and threatening the chiefs , and asides Gaa children, which " Supporters ? which party ? bobo yii funny sha

What Alaafin played with GAa is wisdom, i know i cant win you in a boxing match its left for me to apply wisdom and set you up for jungle justice

Stop arguing or look for small small children to engage

Christistruth00:
Oyo did politics a lot
It was hot heads like Dahomey that had 5 Armies wiped out by Oyo
and had to resort to using Women as fighters because of it


Iwo were the diplomatic and Political negotiators of the Oyo Empire

Bro stop arguing, do you even understand supremacy .. once again i will help you with definition of politics, you cant continue the arguement with dictionary

Christistruth00:
Ogbeni you are not from Oyo Empire
Otherwise you would have known of all the high Stakes politics Oyo
played with its Neighbours and between its Chiefs

He is even arguing my state of origin with me again 🤣 ... i am obedient abii

Oyo played with no one, We ruled them nii .. oba o kin da baa ase lo'oba ma'n pa

omode yii lor joko jare

Jennyclay:
Men, as you’re sending hamper of gifts and food stuffs to your parents don't forget to also send to your wife's or fiancé's parents

We are in the season of showing love and there is a Christmas blessings from God by doing so.

iwor omo yii ... the day alfa males of Nairaland will catch you one on one. ..🤣🤣🤣🤣

Christistruth00:
So you actually think precolonial Africans had no idea of Politics?

If your own people didn't know it others did and used it a lot

Ogbeni sit down, i am from OYO empire, which others ?? is it the sokoto caliphate or Northern emir

Have ever seen kings or chief parade themselves as " Politician" before .. leave arguement for educated ones jare

yinkus6750:
Will PDP be able to survive and overcome this trying period?
Except both parties can resolve their feud and come together as one, which I doubt can be possible.
A house divided against itself will definitely find it difficult to stand.

As much as efforts are ongoing PDP seyi fraction will survive cos One can tell what the goal is, recently they have being decisive, strategic and seems to be going the right direction .. However they might not be able to do well in 2027 buh beyond that they stand a better chance years ahead

What Wike pdp want i dont even know or maybe i know e no just make sense ni 😆

Christistruth00:
The British described Abeokuta as having the most advanced democracy on Earth
4 kings with their own separate people in one Town yet successfully running the Town as one entity

How do you think they agreed with each other and worked together
4 kings holding power among their people at the same time and debating with their chiefs and each other daily?

ALOL ! are you a comedian, Which British 😁 maybe the british woman was on her period that time cos
Democracy i know is a govt of the people by the people, which King in yoruba land is elected by the people.. sey una no dey think ni

Oba ladoja that was crown recently in Ibadan, his emergence was that democracy ..Anything that resonate "IMPOSED" is void of Democracy. simple

i am well educated n inforned, no dey try me with garage arguement

richmond500:
Wike does not have supreme control, Executive and presidential power from Abuja supercedes LGA and house of assembly.

LOL ! 4yrs ago it is just like saying Tinubu does not have supreme control in Lagos, Executive and presidential power from abuja supercedes LGA and house assembly .. 🤣

Since when wike as being controlling Rivers, what did he do that Buhari over ride or cancel in rivers, wike was even more anti Buhari

Since Tinubu as being controlling Lagos, what did he do that OBJ or any president for that over ride in Lagos .. OBJ/Abuja could not even reverse Creation of more local govt in lagos

Tinubu's interest in Rivers is invested in Wike's interest, abuja cant own structures directly it has to be through powers of the state. this are not just my opinion its the reality we see

JohnBullMySon:
Mention one major politician that is still a Wike loyalist?

What you're calling structure is a set of faceless people that will immediately jump ship when they sense that their benefactor has lost power. Wike continued hold on power came from his purported influence on Tinubu. If they see he's lost it, they will immediately jump ship to Fubara. Tinubu gives Wike his relevance, not the other way round. Tinubu is just grateful that Wike rigged election for him that's why he still keeps him. He can easily dump Wike and use Fubara to achieve the same thing.

what are you saying, those politicians tearing PDP apart, senator Anyanwu senator,. Senator Mao Ohuabunwa, Austine Nwachukwu,Abraham Amah, George Turner, Chief Dan Orbih

In river almost All the local government are wike loyalist, infact Wike is reason the house of rep in Rivers pledge there allegiance to Tinubu. so what does Fubara have major or no major ??

Some of you here just love to argue what you dont know, Power cant leave Wike nd go to Fubara, he is bird weight politician wake up n smell the coffe, Fubara is a liability because he has no political affluence inside nd outside Rivers .. learn

Fubara defection did not come as a surprise to me , it is what we have even advise him to do cos thats the only way he can survive, the agreement he signed makes Wike supreme over him

it is just like saying Tinubu loyalist will leave him n follow Sanwo olu, ko possible even me wey no dey politics no fit betray wike to follow a Fubara .. that one na politician

Christistruth00:
So you actually think precolonial Africans had no idea of Politics?

If your own people didn't know it others did and used it a lot

lets leave what i think, check the definition of " politics" and tell me how it is related with the traditional rulership we had pre colonial

JohnBullMySon:
Nah Wike’s power is receding. It’s obvious to everyone. Fubara was not supposed to join APC because Wike his benefactor is not in APC yet. By joining APC he’s pushing for direct access to Tinubu. Fubara’s access to Tinubu is supposed to be through Wike but he don dey use this opportunity to push him aside again.

The state house of assembly members can’t impeach him again cause they will be afraid of blowback from Tinubu.

Ever since that young officer disrespected Wike, everybody don dey get morale. That’s what you get when you consolidate power based on fear. The day you appear vulnerable, those under you will take advantage of it. Someone like Tinubu his followers would’ve protected him instead because his own is more of respect than fear.

I am tryin to take what you wrote Buh you are forgeting Wike is more closer and more of a politician than fubara will ever be

Fubara can try n get close to Tinubu as much as he wants Buh Fubara doesnt have what Tinubu want .... thats rivers structure which is still very much in Wike hands

when we talk about Apc in Rivers, who make up the members is still Wike boiz, Tinubu is not a toddler to pick Fubara over wike ... besides Fubara is a political liability

By agreement Fubara signed, Wike remain his boss, Wike get what he wants thats it

I notice people cant read comment without branding one into a team, they will say i am wike supporter 🤣 you criticize Apc you must be obedient still in pain .. smh

Fiscus105:
From a data boy that must defend that black is white.


Wen fubara want to announce it yesterday, he said..I WENT TO ASO VILLA TO SEE TINUBU YESTERDAY, AND TODAY IM DEFECTING.....


if it's not that fubara defected to APC/TINUBU camp, your lord and saviour would have issued press release since yesterday.

Wike already decimated for that, singular act.

lolz ! Was Fubara suppose to be driven by Wike as uber driver into Aso rock, the 1st time he went to see Tinubu no be im leg he take walka alone go see Tinubu collect terms n conditions ... why are nigeria low in fhinking

Oh you think i am supporting Wike 🤣 can you imagine ... i am just saying Fubara did not Beat Wike

What wike want is supreme control on Rivers he has it and what Fubara want is to sha be called mr governor .. with the defection he just got it
Regardless Fubara is still under Wike control because na wike still get the apc structure in rivers

heykims:
When it comes to politics and politicking, give it to Jagaban.
Other politicians would just be wondering, how does he do it?

Oga you can say that in a Motor park, there is nothing "positive" about Tinubu politicking .. its more of using his target challenges to buy them over to his advantage, give n take

make people an offer that best meets their needs, watch dem compromise

muyico:
How Wike go feel now?? Same party
But I no trust this man call fubara
Maybe after re election
He fit defeat to PDP
Politicians not to be trust

Wike cant feel down, he has all the political structure under him and Fubara can never disobey him ... thats enough

What Fubara just did is self survival, he just made a move to retain his post even If Wike will continue to control rivers. let me just be governor

Christistruth00:
Those are the facts
Your disagreements are irrelevant

All kingdoms have their own Politics
They were numerous kingdoms in Africa before Colonisation
Colonisation was a just of continuation of that Politics
That was why the British gave us 3 Autonomous Regions in Recognition
of our Political differences


Ooni Aderemi was the Governor General of the Western Region
It was not a Coincidence
They were all his subjects



Sardauna was a Prince of the Sokoto Caliphate who just missed out on becoming the Sultan
of Sokoto

what is this one saying, why not simply google the meaning of " Politics" nd stop embrassing your lineage here

YeyeGbami:
Self worth wey go later kpai you. When e b your turn do like muritala.

naa you low mentaility go 1st kpai, if the leaders do what they are suppose to and country is good ... why pack battalion of security just to go from ikeja to pwd

They employ so much security escort becos they know they failed ... now let me ask you how many police is escorting Peter Obi around, as he died like muritala

sho ri wipe o ponu

YeyeGbami:
Nothing new, na for safety. Ota poju enemy lor

The problem is people like you would have no self worth no matter what, Seyi deserves a battalion protecting him becos he is must Nigerian than you or becos he has two head abi

we have very limited security agent to protect over 200million people, seyi alone carry over 50 security details, new or not ko make sense nii

Kukutente23:
Be like this defection pain the Bala Muhammad led PDP o
Their usual cash cow is gone
Let's wait for the Wike-led PDP's reaction
Wike is now in opposition in his own state

Since Fubara became a governor when have you seen him attend meetings with Bala PDP .... was he ever active or involved so when a gurlfriend you dont even see or talk with breaks up with you ... explain the painment

I am guessing some of you are just miscreant employed, cos where is the sense, PdP only replied because Fubara blamed them wrongly
How will PDP defend you, when you publicly asked your supporters in rivers to stay out of the matter .. so naa pdp go kum shook head

HgAkpobomeEr:
Any self-respecting person should avoid PDP.

And affiliate with a party of drug lord, agbero and a drunken master wike .... is APC the party to join Baba sope

Grandpa that not what we need you to talk about, speak the truth to the president .. Tinubu is a disappointment

Kukutente23:
Wike must be writhing in pains right now
The big fight will come during the gov
If APC fields Fubara for 2nd term as its being reported as the carrot being dangled before 1st term govs, that will be hell
Will Wike allow APC with Fubara as candidate to win a second term or will he retain his state for PDP?
Note that he did not mention Wike once in his speech

Are you deliberately just being naive, Fubara decamping to APC is one of the condition Tinubu must have given to him

Nigerians are just naturally naive n gullible, Wike demeanor made it clear he is working for APC, the moment APC won almost all the local govt in Rivers that was the confirmation or did you see Wike protest

Rivers as no mind of it own where they go know it is Wike " Decision" .. any sound political ethuthiast won't be surprised Fubara decamped.. he is not politically connected in anyway just an orphan

HacheNoire:
That was glaring!

PDP has become a nuisance in Nigeria’s political space. The party cannot even win SUG election at the moment.

The party should rebrand and venture into Agriculture. Cat fish farming is a thriving business they can venture into on a large scale.

If PDp are nuisance as you say Is APC that are responsible people have you being to any APC gathering before .... can you count the thugs n agbero on ground
Even though PDP punged itself late, they still remain the biggest opposition in Nig. they might not stand a in 2027 however they can rise beyond that

Now that they have kicked Wike out, the party stands a better chance to recuperate

Salewa97:
PDP, the party that doesn't even have a direction.

Fubara's defection is a big blow to the already weakened PDP in Rivers state.

2027 election, na walk over for APC in Rivers state

Alol !! some of you are unserious jokers, what contribution does a nwa boy Fubara have in PDP to begin with, since he became governors what he contribute to PDP financially or effort wise
How can PDP help you, when it obvious you deep into the devil claws, you went to abuja n signed an agreement even when your supporters in Rivers tried to protest for you ... you openly shut them down

So how is seyi PDP supposed to Defend you when you are in Bed with Wike n Tinubu moaning

Christistruth00:
Africans had their own Political Systems

It is to be adapted to the European System that was given by the Colonial Masters
Which introduced the system that was easier for them to understand and manage

Oga stop confusing yourself, Africa copied politics, Google is your friend you can see when Nigeria had the 1st political party

have you seen anywhere Emir, king and chiefs are addressed as politicians.. think naw

Burob:
Hahaha 😂 I thought u people claimed that the APC was an evil party, but now more than 90% of your elected governors you were all praising done port?

And who said APC is a good party, let me ask are politicians good people, darkness and evil walk hand in hand, ask your elders

Whatever reason the governors are decamping to APC for, it as nothing to do with the interest of the people 1%, it all about Dubious permutations to be re elected

why would anyone praise any governor, no governor in the whole 36 states as done half of Ambode .... one ediot ex governor in Delta said connecting to center,since his protege connected what good as come to delta

Burob:
Can u please tell us what Tinubu is offering them, that they are all cross carpeting like ants on the move?

whatelse can it be if not guaranteed re-election
It is common sense now, the only strong contender against APC is PDP, now that the party is in disarray, nd legitimate fraction dispute ... decamping to APC is like going " unopposed" .. even Adeleke couldnt risk is re election under any Pdp because you dont know where Court wil take shock everybody

check governor decamping, whats the conmon factor = re-election/2nd term

think