First I think your using stephen's death in the wrong way. Second defend yourself, self defense isn't wrong. Turning the other cheek is not seeking revenge. If the muslims kill of your family but yourself don't go seeking revenge. But if they are attacking you in person then defend yourself.

Look at it this way, if a muslim northerner is attacking you with a big machete, defend yourself and your family, but if you are unsuccessful in defending yourself, then don't go seeking to kill them for revenge. If they are captured by the law and brought to trial, forgive them, but allow justice to prevail.
That is turning the other cheek.

If you don't seek for vengeance, they will come again abi?. Should we sit down and be defending all the time?.

I am not the giver of God's grace but I do know that God gives graces to those who are not Christians, after all it is by God's grace that one becomes Christian.
If these people have not heard about Christ, God is not going to punish them for ignorance. You mentioned that there are people in North Korea that are not allowed to believe in God, no one can tell you if you should believe or not in God. Even if it is signed in law. One may not be allowwed to worship and profess their faith in public but they cannot stop one from believing.
God can grant graces to muslims too, a lot of them are muslims because that's what they were raised to believe. But if the gospel has been preached to them and they said no to the gospel then they are accountable. But for those that haven't heard the gospel and there are billions then they are not accountable at their death.
There are atheists who are good people and God can grant them grace, it is not up to us to decide.

But they've heard the gospel yet decides to ignore it. Should God tamper justice with mercy on that count?

As for children. Parents are responsible for their children up until the age of reason. Now for christian families, it is beneficial for the child to be baptised into the christian faith. Our baptism separates us from others. But as the child gets older to the age of reason then the child should profess his/her own faith.

What is this age of reason, if I may ask? 10? 12? 15?

For those who speak that child baptism is false, Christ asked us to bring the little ones to him, so who are you to call Christ false for wanting the little ones to come to him, who are you to prevent the little ones from coming to him?
If a child is born into a christian home, but never baptised, grows older and decides to become a muslim, was the child ever a christian?
No, the child was never a christian, there is no difference between that child and a muslim child that was born to a muslim family, neither one was baptised in Christ. They are both muslims, so the former was never a christian.

Will God's judgment be based on your religion or your lifestyle?

[size=14pt]Why foreign military intervention may be necessary in Nigeria- US analysts[/size]

By JIDE BABALOLA

The United States' National Intelligence Council has predicted a bleak future for Nigeria if certain identified indicators were not addressed before 2025.

The council comprises analysts, academic and other experts in the US

Presidency spokesman, Mr. Segun Adeniyi, refused to pick our correspondents call on Saturday and he did not respond to a text message on the issue.

Increase in the population of unemployed youths, growing availability of arms, climate change, declining agricultural production and religious extremism were seen as serious threats to Nigeria's future peace and stability.

In a prognosis of Nigeria's future contained in a 120-page report titled "Global Trends 2025: A Transformed World", they predict an increasing likelihood of foreign military intervention to end the Niger Delta crisis and stabilise oil exports.

"Ethnic and political violence and criminal activity currently threaten a large portion of Nigeria's oil production. State failure in the key energy producing country may require military intervention by outside powers to stabilise energy flows", the report stated.

The observation is contained in part of the November 2008 document released by the NIC.

The report emphasised that serious internal conflict that was reminiscent of the Nigerian civil war "is not inconceivable" in Nigeria before 2025.

The report includes inputs from the Central Intelligence Agency and several other bodies that are active in analysing intelligence through networks that span the globe.

While the report also warned that the US' dominance in world affairs would likely reduce as multi-polar power blocs comprising increasingly affluent countries such as  India and China begin to assert more influence on global affairs.

For Nigeria, the document said threats of serious internal stability might result from long-existing but largely latent problems including religious extremism, youth unemployment, climate change and growing population.

"Unless employment conditions change dramatically in parlous youth-bulge states such as Afghanistan, Nigeria, Pakistan, and Yemen, these countries will remain ripe for continued instability and state failure

"In those countries that are likely to struggle with youth bulges and weak economic underpinnings-such as Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nigeria, and Yemen-the radical Salafi trend of Islam is likely to gain traction. Types of conflict we have not seen for a while could re-emerge…

"The populations of already parlous youth bulge states-such as Afghanistan, Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), Ethiopia, Nigeria, Pakistan, and Yemen-are projected to remain on rapid-growth trajectories. Pakistan's and Nigeria's populations are each projected to grow by about 55 million people¦"

According to the authors of the report, rapid climate change and increasing rural-urban migration in Nigeria and 19 other countries will affect seriously agricultural production and "sows the seeds for social conflict".

"The problem is that some of these are not small, geo-politically insignificant countries. Some-like Nigeria-we in the developed world rely on for needed resources.

"Because of the encroaching desertification in the north, the religious clash between Muslims and Christians is heating up. Another Biafra-like civil war-only this time along North-South lines-is not inconceivable," it stated.

Predicting an increasing dominance of Islamic ideology in countries with Moslem population, the report expressed fears that radical Islamic beliefs of the Salafi doctrine would gain ascendance in Nigeria and other countries.

"In those countries that are likely to struggle with youth bulges and weak economic underpinnings-such as in Afghanistan, Nigeria, Pakistan, and Yemen-the radical Salafi trend is likely to gain traction…"

"The challenge of Islamic activism could produce a more intense backlash of Christian activism. Nigeria, Ethiopia, and other places in Africa will remain battlegrounds in this sectarian struggle," the report added.


http://odili.net/news/source/2008/nov/30/406.html

O boy i tire for this myopic people. Maybe when their families become directly involved they will open their eyes.

Didn't I say that before?. Until a family member is involved, they will not realize the gravity of this mayhem.

When we canvassed that we divide this country along ethnic lines, many of una here say make we sharrapp. See what we're all passing through now because of some useless election in the land of cattle rearers. Election that will bring in people who will share proceeds from oil sales, and not from goat herding.

See how lives are wasted in the streets of Jos over nothing. Both the innocent and guilty are all dying. And like Jakumo said sometime ago, the outside world does not give a . . . . . . . what happens in our hole in there. . . . there are more important things to lookout for elsewhere. The US is in a recession already, why waste precious time filming cattle rearers? goat herders who are tired of life? This is how some folks killed so many people because of some cartoon in Denmark.

Me, I don tire for this country. And I repeat that we split quick quick. Nothing will happen. Life will go on - smoothly.

What shall we do? who in his right mind is not tired of this union called Nigeria?. Should we continue to experiment on what will work?. I bet you before 6 months now, the animosity will shift from Jos to some other Northern region where they will massacre southerners and middle beltans again over one frivolous thing. One power they have over us is the way they value life. They have no value for any life including theirs, so if you are waging a war against them, good luck because they will not relent until you kill them all. We are in serious trouble.

Where did you learn your history from? or you are making the mistake of coming to conclusions about a soap opera in which you watched only the last episode? are you that ignorant to be unaware that there are Yorubas in Togo and Benin who trace their ancestry to Ife and formed part of the old Oyo Empire?

Don't mind him.

All these killings are just simple first degree murder, which is punishable by hanging under Nigerian law.
Laws will not make a difference, the police needs to improve their procedures for dealing with this problem.

You cannot prosecute them because its mob action and any proof will be hearsay. Either way, the masses will still suffer more because the shoot at sight order will definitely take its toll on innocent citizens more than the terrorists.

@ JosBoy,

Are you in support of the killings in Jos?

Help me ask him oo. Its always easier to yap online about things like this until you witness it first hand.

I categorically agree with you on your second point, first point though we all care

My problem is why massacre innocent people. Why kill Kayode and make fun of him while he's dying? Was kayode a threat to their power?. Why do you continue to defend this people when obviously they are the aggressors and not the plateau indigenes?. They will do same again to other people and the sooner your folks realize what they are dealing with, the better for them.

Josboy,
The Ikwerres said they're not Igbo - time and again. This is strange, but that's the reality on ground. But the Igbos said they're their kin. Me no understand sha.

Keep fooling yourself. They are different sides of one box. The issue at hand is did anybody use a machete to force themselves in? even in Edo when oshiomole's case was on, did you hear any massacre?

You do know that the traditional lands of the Igbo's does not include coastal areas? How is that Rivers State is governed by an Igbo man? Because they gained majority status there, maybe

Who cares who is governing who but my main problem is why kill the indigenes because you want to govern them by force?

@ Topic,

This is the magun called the Gbono FeliFeli version. Cheesy Grin Cheesy It is mild but yet potential for easy death. It is designed that the woman will continually want the manliness of another man rather than of her husband till she dies from it. If she ever desires that of her husband, it will be a burning sensation unto her. No amount of lab check under the microscope can discover this Gbono feli-feli magun.

Tell her to keep enjoying the prick of another man, it will be sweet unto her now till she passes on.

That is the only thing Pataki is good at in this world. Different forms of magun. Are you a magun vendor?

@topic, she has an infection yet undetected.

That is what happens when you have a failed attempted succession. A country with 200+ ethnic groups.
Oh an black people, who lack unity, if you disagree ask your self why we are the ones killing ourselves.

And the problem is not just in Africa. Our AA counterparts cry Racism, while they are the ones killing each other with drugs and violence.
Black people individually strong, but as a collective we are hopeless.

Leave AA out of this. There is no black race in the world that massacre people like the hausas over a plate of soup.

@ funmi. good to know you can be tammed. was he threatening taking back his ring or what scared you into submission like this?

I am waiting to get money for a good NY divorce lawyer, thats all.

Now I know exactly why funmi has been trying to circumcise you since
I mean,commit FGM maybe to inflict pain and finally shoo you out
anu mpam.

I don't circumcise online lunatics. A mental home is more appropriate for them.

So why not give the Hausa ANPP the Jos North LGA that they have rightfully won?

Now I know you are hausa disguised as plateau indigene. Cede Jos to hausa for what? Is that their homeland?. Did they cede Kano north to Plateau people?

Yeap, only saw it as footnote while watching BBC yesternight, but not sure whether it was covered in main news before switching to or after switching from BBC.

I guess its no more news that we massacre each other every day. What a shame.

redchic

are u born hausa! u seemed to reason like 1

Are you born Ode, you seem to reason like one.

dude's a sophmore in college. what do you think?

Oh ma bad. I will get another husband for you. Do you like yemmse or ikeymann?

O ga. Look at Christians thirsty for Hausa blood.

what would Jesus Do?

Give to Caesar what belongs to caesar and to Paul what belongs to him. You never hear am before?

Because he was in Jos in the midst of a Political Riot

Whose bodies made up the 350? Igbo and Yoruba or Europeans?

Funmi darling, unlike you o. I no be cougar Wink

Thanks all the same

Tihe he he, are you older than Bawo?

It was about time they got a taste of their own medicine eh? I could care less if the continent is filled with hausa bodies . . . they shld just go.

Supported. They should be massacred too and thrown into the dungeons of chad and Niger where they belong with lesser mammals.

Some of you should be forced to communicate in your mother-tongues with an aid of a translator
Which Hausa massacred my Village, do you even know my Village. During the last riots Hausa, Igbo, etc were running from Jos to my village for safety. We protected all people.

By your own words you claimed you lost a villager. If you warriors protect people from harm, how come hausas massacred you last week?

So what happened in Yorubaland in Ajegunle in 2000 to be exact that was what? You shut up.

me sef i wan kingdom

I thought you are marrying bawomolo? You can inherit his osun kingdom without fighting for it[unless you plan to knife him later, you don't, do you?]. Welcome home our wife.

The Hausa settlement in my village is not owned by Hausa's. They can be told to up and leave.

After they massacre you? You are not even ashamed of yourself. This people massacreed your village and you are quoting your power over them only on the internet. Why not go out there in the field?. Will hausas try this bullshit in yoruba or igboland?. It's a big slap on your face if you dont know it, so shut up.

Indians even made more of a news story due to terrorism and threats to Western Nationals.

They reported the Kaduna carnage so well. They started ignoring us since the Niger Delta issue, may be Nigerian news itself affects their ratings.

BBC is reporting it.

Is it a headline news or the normal foot note thingy?

Why involve seun in this?
You turned cold since when a young lady caught you and 6 tigers fighting on camera. Undecided

Good to know you have a little sense of humor.