₦airaland Forum

helinues:
Interesting question

Christians - Crusade
Muslims - Jihad

The modification of bible erase all the violent act

That's why Quran needs to be modified/edited in other to stop the so called Jihad which is instead an act of terrorism.

Are you the one that modified the Bible or it was Mohamed who didn't write it and came centuries after it was established that told you this?

The Quran has been modified over time, that is why the chapter of breast feeding which Aisha talked about has been removed.

Jihad is the nucleus of islam, it can't be removed, it would continue to be used by Muslims who see it as the surest path to heaven since Allah didn't create a definite path to heaven

The crusaders were the ancient Romans who occupied Jerusalem during the time of Jesus (centuries before Islam) and they fought Muslims who had invaded their territory.

How does ancient Romans fighting for their heritage equal Christianity as a religion

falcon01:
A very Good question. Jihad Means war war against anything That is against Islam it can be against yourself, Family or society as Long as This people or things are against Islam you Can Jihad them. How do you carry out Jihad? Exactly how you Practice war with Different strategies, With Mouth, Strenght, Sword or Guns, the goal is to terminate the enemies Of Islam. Now while doing this There will be casualties and Those who ain't Muslims or don't support Islam will be the Casualties and to Them that is Terrorrism. As a Muslim I will say this Jihad in this Generation and Terrorism carried out by Extremists Muslims, Muslims call it Jihad while NonMuslims Call it terrorism it's just like the Crusade that the Christian's carried out in the dark Ages that's exactly what Jihad means but Changes where made in the Teachings of christianity and Bible thus washing down The extremism but in Islam Nothing was changed That same teachings That same book that same system is still active, in this 21st Century lot of Islamic Scholars are Trying to Interpret The Quran in a Less Brutal Manner since a Promise has already been made that The Quran can never be changed That's the Only option. My Point here is it's all The same thing as Long as the perpetrators are doing in the name of God. The difference between an Extreme muslims and a moderate is The Later won't participate in Jihad but absolutely Agrees with it.

Number one the crusaders where fighting for their rights, the wanted to stop the invasion of Jerusalem by Muslims who had no right to it (Romans the fathers of the crusaders ruled Israel even in Jesus time, Jesus came centuries before Islam).


They didn't fight people who didn't believe what they did.



Good to know you accept Jihad is terrorism

Saao:
Please I usually ponder on this. What's the difference between jihad and terrorism? My question is not to insult, malign any religion or anyone, just for knowledge sake.

Thank you for your contributions

Jihad is Terrorism simple.

Even though Muslims use Taqiya to divide Jihad into different part, it doesn't stop the fact that there is militant jihad which is equal to terrorism.

AntiChristian:
This is like accepting a terms and saying you didn't believe in what you signed. The signature is in your heart.
Case closed!

Abdul, no case here.

Islam as a supposed religion isn't Jumia where you order for chips and click audio terms for delivery.

A religion is spiritual,

If the intention to be a slave to it is absent, then the supposed oat is useless.

Biro ink or computer mouse doesn't substitute the place of heart in a supposed confession

Unless your your god and religion begins and ends on nairaland



advocatejare is correct

LMS1:
Hisbah Is Simply The Legal Version Of Boko Haram,they Want To Force Islam On Every One!

What is legal in a supposed parallel law agency in a secular state

You mean like el-rufai and buhari?
This Taqiya has been bursted

Come to Nairaland we are talking


Fulani Islamic terrorists who see others as their conquered slaves do not seek talk

Neddstark:
African China invested when he was reigning. Heard he is in the business of renting out quality speakers and sound equipment.

From that house alone you can tell he is legit.

It's a modest average house his work can justify

justosee:
they are just saying nonsense to deceive us.

They get information and sponsorship directly from the presidency.

At the local level zamfara government is also dashing them Hilux.

I told people tambuwal is a coded Terrorists apologists they didn't believe

SpecialAdviser:
I really pray one day, the north can be their own country.

The number of terrorist groups that will emanate were

I would just tune to Al Jazeera be watching them

lol Al Jazeera got me

On a lighter note, Al Jazeera is an Islamic centric tv, they would play Taqiya and not give you such news.

Their aim is to draw sympathy to islam by avoiding the Terrorists stories and show the supposed nations they claim western nations interference is destroying

osuofia2:
Greatest mistake they will ever make, Edo is a home to all Fulanis. Starting from Auchi to Epkoma.
The youth should learn from what the warrior Ismail Wakili is doing to the SW. All Fulanis have right to live any where as they pleases

shut your Taqiya mouth, Fulani have no place in Esan land, it can go to auchi

Iamagoodgirll:
thanks
I do pray on my dreams and I hope he reveal them.

Amen.

Dreams are very powerful in my view and not subjective to others interpretation expect the Holy Spirit

There was a time i was in sch (uni) and i went to bed early by 8pm unlike me, i had a bad dream so strong i had to get up to pray (when the urge comes to get get up then it's serious).

I got up at that point nepa brought light (this was obviously a distraction not to pray so i took it serious).

I prayed it was around 10.30pm.

I felt the urge to call my mother whom i don't usually call without schedule, i asked her about the family and specifically about my dad who didn't have any issue.

She told me every thing was fine, i asked if she was very sure she said yes so i hung up.

30minutes later she called back that my dad was involved in an accident at about when we spoke but he didn't sustain major injury.

I have had other experiences of God revelation in dreams like this, they are not subject to others interpretation because only God can reveal what he gave you as a message

After praying seat down and start meditating on it, the significance of it with the on-going around you would start adding up immediately.

Op, dreams are not subject to mere interpretation of man.
The one who gave you them can reveal it to you himself.
As a child of God when you receive dream get up and pray on it immediately
That's when the holy spirit would begin to unveal the meaning to you

triple996:
Mike my friend, is that you Y did you create another moniker Did u chop ban

Abdul it's antibot o, it would be off by 9. pm

triple996:
Their is no difference between buhari and ortom.infact ortom is worst than buhari. A useless leader that use fulani as an excuse to his his failures

Abdul, you should be blaming buhari for the failures.

Perphas if he had solved insecurity ortom won't see avenue to hide his own failures.

So long as Benue is concerned ortom has done to sheild it from the biggest problem of fulani terrorists

Are we second (-class) citizens in this country? Why (is) the Fulani men superior to a Tiv man? I am not their slave, a Benue man is not slave to any Fulani man in this country.


Fulani terrorists believe they are sent by allah to liberate Nigeria to islam, they rely on the slaves of the same allah who sent them to achieve their objective.


It's common logic to see their apologists are the slaves to their god

shadeyinka:
I perfectly agree with you.

Jesus's wealth and asset was the PEOPLE and not MATERIAL collections.

Correct, his wealth and asset was the people.

The people gave him out of the compassion of just the basic necessities he needed not on Christ compulsion.

But today's supposed leaders in Christ want to justify their craving to compete with the leaders of this world by turning Christ doctrine on its head

tyup:
Nice trial

Have you resigned from been a fulani slave of kaBAAL?

ThreeEyedRaven:
This guy barber must be riding on a Benz by now. As per the way this guy changes hairstyles more than boxers.

By the way his name is Paul not Suleiman Hisbah got no holds on him.

But he goes to the "kaBAAL" every year as a Muslim and kisses the stone which the holy hisbah muslims kiss

Shouldn't he be banned from going to kabaal since he refuses to be repentant and would return to his same old ways Everytime as allah public violator?

tyup:
Money would plush you real good. In anything you do make Money n most importantly stay away from illegal means of making money

Shortcut dey sweet same time e dey purge belle

Abdul, you are yet to give us an explanation to this loophole in Islamic tradition

Patrioticman007:
Mr English kindly learn to spell correctly before you " band" Muslims. Google the difference between band & banned.

Attack the message if incorrect

P1PrinceKT:
I'm beginning to think the difference between Catholic and Angelican sec of Christianity

meaning?

Islamabad, suuni shites Shia don't even agree on one the teaching in their plagiarized book yet they would talk about another religion that came before them.



I know a Muslim friend then who use to select mosque to attend

thebosstrevor1:
What exactly is this GoFundMe for?

This Sunday Igboho lives in a mansion, has fleet of benzes with his customized name on the plate number.

I can see that most Nigerians abroad are the ones that want to breakup Nigeria.

Are you the one donating.

Security is a costly effort especially when you have the government backing the oppressors with funds.

Sunday complained of using his three buses to convey the operations

Jones4190:
Jesus was not poor because he received lucrative gifts -- gold, frankincense and myrrh -- at birth. Jesus was wealthy because the Roman soldiers who crucified him gambled for his expensive undergarments. Even Jesus' parents, Mary and Joseph, lived and traveled in style,
"Mary and Joseph took a Cadillac to get to Bethlehem because the finest transportation of their day was a donkey, "Poor people ate their donkey. Only the wealthy used it as transportation."
another point to consider is that Jesus had a treasurer, or a "keeper of the money bag."
"The last time I checked, poor people don't have treasurers to take care their money,"
also the scriptures says the Roman soldiers gambled for Jesus' clothing while he hung on the cross. They wouldn't gamble for Jesus' clothing unless it was expensive.
"That might be a fine stuff he wore.
Jesus never would have had disciples or a large following if he was poor. He would not have been able to command their respect.
"The poor will follow the rich, the rich will follow the rich, but the rich will never follow the poor.
Even Jesus' own words prove that he wasn't poor.
"Jesus said you will always have the poor, but you will not always have me, "Jesus did not affirm himself as being part of the poor class...
"I believe he was the richest man on the face of the earth because he had God as his source,"

Roman soldiers gambled on his clothes to mock him, they were his killers and humilators and they wouldn't consider his mere clothes valuable if they could do such to him (casting lots was to share pieces of the cloth essentially destroying it)

He received Gold, Frankincense, myrr, as a child then how come he and his father were still Carpenters when he grew up.

Poor people ate their donkey (can you quote where the Bible told you this)

Donkey just like camel in Arabia was primary means of transportation, it was the very least in use except you wanted Joseph to carry his heavily pregnant wife on his back in a far journey just to prove to you he is poor.

How come this rich family suddenly didn't have money to find befitting place to Lodge until they settled for animal stable.

Poor people don't have treasurer, if the treasury was his he would have sent it to the professional money keepers who kept personal funds (he couldn't send a spiritual organization fund in the keeping of wordly money keeper).

The poor would follow the poor, rich follow rich how come all his followers who followed him to the mount had no food to eat( he also didn't have to give all of them untill he performed a miracle)

The poor would always be in your midst how does this characterization of an adjective of people correlate with the statement of a man.

Was Jesus as a man on Earth ever going to stay forever in comparison to an adjective of people that is bound to be continuous i.e (rich, poor, patient, evil, etc that exists in every race )

Jones4190:
if we are to define poverty, it will be right for us to say is a person that lack shelter,food and clothes, Jesus didn't lack any of this, he has enough food to feed himself, his disciples and even feed his followers.
He has a clothes to wear, after his deaths his clothes was use to cast lot. nobody we drag a poor man clothes
He has a place to sleep in capenahun, it was on his way to Jerusalem where he know he will not return he make the statement that "the son of man has no where to leave" he knew it was a journey of no return.
There is no place recorded in the bible that says jesus was lacking when he was on earth.

Jesus wasn't supposed to be a wreck, those things you described aren't riches.

Can you answer me on why the devil promises to give him riches if he had it already?

Don't run o answer since you know the definition of riches than the one who offered it.

The people who cast lots on his clothes were his killers who humiliated him, where they casting lot because they respected him or to to mock him.

Can you also answer my second question on why Jesus himself gave the parable of the birds who don't labour yet have basic needs from God.

If all birds could get shelter and food can God not give his son shelter and food too

Does it translates to the birds been rich?

If God can give all humans shelter and food like birds does that mean all humanity is rich

Christ had the basic necessities of life and that doesn't translate to riches

shadeyinka:
The creator of the heaven and the earth couldn't have lacked anything He wanted! However, Jesus did not live like a wealthy man and he didn't own things that will make anyone consider him as wealthy.

If Jesus was in our generation, he probably will have enough influence to get Him anything He wanted BUT will not personally own most of the things we see our rich people owning. In other words, he would probably fly in helicopters, planes, cars and ship that he doesn't own. He would probably live in a rented house and not build churches. Jesus's investment was more on people rather than material assets.

Pastors who live flamboyant lives would want to portray Jesus as a materially Rich and wealthy man (so as to justify their own flamboyant lifestyle) but no: Jesus seem to live a simple lifestyle. He had the power to turn baskets of rocks and dirts int GOLD but he would rather send Peter to draw out the first fish in whose mouth is money enough to pay for just two people (with no excess)!

But Jesus did not live in Poverty or Penury: that will be completely wrong belief system.

I agree i think the question wasn't whether he was comfortable but whether he was rich?

No body argues that Jesus wasn't comfortable, he had ardent followers that would have given him basics stuffs (not flamboyancy).

One of his followers was Joseph of Arimathea who took his body down, washed it, wrapped it in new clothes in a special grave.

Jesus got heroric welcome from followers at the triumphant entry.

Mary and her sisters always came to wash him with perfume all the days they could after his death.

Mary and her sisters would also have been given him food when he was with them too.

So no one can say he wasn't comfortable

jesusjnr2020:
Jesus was so rich that when the tax collectors came, He had to depend on a fish to pay them tax for Him and Peter.

He was so rich that He didn't have a house to stay.

He was even born so rich in a manger of all places on Earth.

He was extremely rich that He kept borrowing things like the donkey He used to enter Jerusalem.

He even richer than all men on Earth that His disciples were worried about food to eat and clothes to put on after they had forsaken all to follow Him.

Jesus was really rich that the first miracle He did was because wine had finished in a wedding He attended.

Jesus was so rich that He relied on a poor fig tree to quench His hunger.

I'm sure for all those saying that Jesus was rich, those are the criteria for someone to be rich in their sight.

Not surprised though, it's the same way some want to pin alcohol on Jesus to justify their drinking of alcohol.

God bless.

Exactly they are mentioning Judas was treasurer.

Why is Judas a treasurer if it wasn't a group money for a set organisational goal?

There was tax collector and money keepers who professionally kept personal money for people, why would Jesus be giving his personal money to Judas who wasn't one (except it was organization money that should stay with the organization)

Why did the devil tempt Jesus with "riches" if he already had it?

haekymbahd:
According to Allah

Allah SWT said:


"And Adam and his wife ate of it, and their private parts became apparent to them, and they began to fasten over themselves from the leaves of Paradise. And Adam disobeyed his Lord and erred."
(QS. Taa-Haa 20: Verse 121)

"Then his Lord chose him and turned to him in forgiveness and guided [him]."
(QS. Taa-Haa 20: Verse 122)

"[Allah] said, Descend from Paradise - all, [your descendants] being enemies to one another. And if there should come to you guidance from Me - then whoever follows My guidance will neither go astray [in the world] nor suffer [in the Hereafter]."
(QS. Taa-Haa 20: Verse 123)

"And whoever turns away from My remembrance - indeed, he will have a depressed life, and We will gather him on the Day of Resurrection blind."
(QS. Taa-Haa 20: Verse 124)


* Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com


My question is why did God sent prophets for what aim why didn't he send he just send Jesus straight...

Firstly the passages you quoted i don't see how a God would forgive Adam yet we somehow are supposedly suffering from Adam already forgiven sin (this is why i go to the original story of the Bible)

Descend from paradise (is allah saying there were human inhabitants before adam already in heaven so how is Adam first man)

Your question

God sent prophets as intersesors for the people, God couldn't talk to everyone, he had to use someone who conveys the message.

In the Torah, Moses once asked God to talk to the Israelites himself for confirmation, they were the ones that said, next time let God talk to you directly because they couldn't beyond him (this was were the pressident started)

Prophets i.e Moses could also make intersession and plead on the people behalf to God.

So God has been long in the business of intersession using a link which Jesus didn't have issues with

God didn't send Jesus once because it was a journey, Moses took them from Egypt and passed the law, Joshua led them to promise Land, David built the kingdom, Solomon the temple, etc

haekymbahd:
even Moses ...
Can you give evidence

What is meant by Jesus being sent to lost sheep of Israel are there also sheep's among the Jew not lost?

ofcourse I can give evidence, i would place a YouTube link of the audio Bible book of Nicodemus later(it details what transpired after Christ death, his descent into hell to release the prophets including Adam who were all placed under the shadow of sheol )


The lost sheep are those who haven't received him as Messiah

haekymbahd:
even Moses Abraham, Noah e.t.c

No they didn't.

By virtue of the sin of Adam as first man, no man could access God holy place (Both on Earth where he was driven from the garden or heaven)

God is a holy God you don't except what he condenmed on Earth to come pollute his holy heaven.

haekymbahd:
Are you saying before Jesus nobody made heaven

Nobody did