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adiori0303:
U need to go backnto school to learn how tobread and comprehend before coming at me with quotes.
I told u,would u say i am not a muslim because u dont know what nscia means?
I told u i am a liberal muslim and not bounded by any religious bodies to determine my identity as a muslim.
I have been taught right from my university days that my being a muslim is between me and my God.
If in ur own religion u need a CAN to validate u as a christian or not,then thats ur problem boy.

Will u now tell me am not a muslim.

Do you understand this your statement at all? We are not typing or expressing ourselves in Arabic if not I won't be dragging Arabic with you and as you know, western Education is haram in Islam. So therefore look for a qualified English teacher to explain this statement for you and correct your mistakes.

Back to the business, NSCIA is the apex Islamic authority in Nigeria. You can't disassociate yourself from this organization except if you want to lie to cover up your shame.

Since Its Inception in 1973, we never see a southern Muslim as the President whereas you're asking if Northern Christians are not good enough to become CAN President not knowing that Kogi is a Northern state that had produced former CAN President

Next time do your research thoroughly before spreading fake news. Thank you

ANTIlSLAM:
That is the boy for you, deviating is his surname, ignorant is his other's name

adiori0303:
I would have responded to u in like manner desecrating ur jesus,but am gonna let it slide.
I never told u am nit a muslim.if ur reading conprehension is poor,u dont need to rant but blame ur parents for denying u a quality education

Were you dozing when typing this?

adiori0303:
We are not bounded by NSCIA.
I dont even know what that means.
Will u now tell me am not a muslim.

Why this bolded part again in your statements again?

adiori0303:
I am a muslim and not bounded by any ncsia or whatever.
I am a moderate muslim.
Right from my days in the uni,have been given that orientation to follow what is in the quran and the sunnah.
If someone tells me otherwise,i shouldnt listen,even if that person is my father.
Nobody has the right to tell me if am a muslim or not.

Deal with your confusion first and mention me thereafter.

MaxInDHouse:
Those are artistic impressions that shows how Catholicism spread back then and that's what Muhammad met during his lifetime so when some people are blaming Muslims for terrorist movements i will remind them where terrorist movements began with religion: Catholics

Today Islamists are fighting not because that was what Muhammad planned from the start but due to the atrocities committed in the name of Jesus and Cross by Catholics during the middle ages.
Catholics back then were disguising as friends of God but their real mission is to establish their rules everywhere they go claiming that's what God wants.
Your hypocritical question of when Catholics came forcing their religion on people shows you don't want the truth. Whether you like it or not Catholics with their missionaries aren't Christians because the founder of Christianity has an assignment he gave his disciples and Catholics aren't doing anything of that nature!

Are we discussing artistic here or their hospital you visited for medical attention was also artistic right?

Wait, inside your kingdom hall or what did u called it, do they gather you to brainwashed you members of JW?

adiori0303:
I am a muslim and not bounded by any ncsia or whatever.
I am a moderate muslim.
Right from my days in the uni,have been given that orientation to follow what is in the quran and the sunnah.
If someone tells me otherwise,i shouldnt listen,even if that person is my father.
Nobody has the right to tell me if am a muslim or not.

Is the demonic spirit, the evil spirit of CONFUSION that oppressed Muhammad in cave tormenting you too tonight? You said YOU ARE NOT A MUSLIM, now you are a Muslim, do u need total deliverance?

adiori0303:
We are not bounded by NSCIA.
I dont even know what that means.
Will u now tell me am not a muslim.

Since you're not a Muslim why pokenosing into the matter of CAN as if you know what you're saying? Next time don't be so stupid and foolish spreading fake news about CAN

MaxInDHouse:
Google is your friend.
Just find out how Catholics forced their religion on people through crusades killing people and carrying cross from place to place. It's after protestant churches (other religions that break away from Catholics) also began carrying weapons to fight back in the name of the same Jesus using the same cross that they came to an agreement so that each will stay on their path.

As for the highlighted question, YES that's how Jesus taught his disciples to go about Christianity!

What Jesus commissioned is visiting people in their homes {Matthew 10:11-13} so if you hate that arrangement then there's no need deceiving yourself it simply means you hate Jesus because he taught his followers to propagate the faith by visiting neighbours Sir! Romans 10:13-15

If google is my friend why can't you use the same google to help you out in answering the questions you've been dodging and avoiding?

Did you copied these pictures from your watchtower?


When was the last time the Catholic missionaries visited you with weapons thereby forcing you to accept Jesus Christ?

You are sending me pictures but you could used their medical facilities isn't it?

That's why you're ignorant, even your paedophile prophet admitted that you Muslims are ignorant so answering my question is of no use.

You are lying, crying and shouting as if CAN never produced a northern President before but you never settle your own case with NSCIA that's playing you southern Muslims like a football

mhmsadyq:
LOL!

I only leave in your folly.

Answering the question is of no use to me.
It might only make you wiser!

You assuming too much.

MaxInDHouse:
Two groups are visiting people globally in their homes today.
Both are coming with WEAPONS but there's a difference in the type of weapon they're coming with.
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are coming to visit you with a book that they're using as weapons to soften the hearts of their neighbours {Romans 10:13-15} and make them surrender as lovers of peace the name of that book is called Bible! Ephesians 6:17, Hebrews 4:12

RADICAL RELIGIONISTS are also coming to visit you with weapons but they don't appreciate your greeting neither seek peace with you rather they're coming to KILL you. Revelations 6:3-4

So whether you like it or not both are searching for you therefore prepare your mind regarding what you will do when they come calling.

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

When was the last time the Catholic missionaries visited you with weapons thereby forcing you to accept Jesus Christ?

Your JW's people loves disturbing people's gate like hausa people that's begging for money, is that what you learnt from Jesus Christ?

AntiChristian:
Nobody dey hold you! Just no blame FG when they kill you like BH!

The Lord's Resistance Army (LRA) is a Christian extremist and a terrorist organization which operates in northern Uganda, South Sudan, the Central African Republic, and the Democratic Republic of the Congo. It was founded in 1987 by Joseph Kony during the Ugandan civil war. You can start the Nigerian version openly now!

These are the objectives of LRA compare with the havoc the below Islamic terrorists organizations in attached picture are causing to the world peace


In the same speech, Obita also claimed that the LRA's objectives are:

To fight for the immediate restoration of competitive multi-party democracy in Uganda.

To see an end to gross violation of human rights and dignity of Ugandans.

To ensure the restoration of peace and security in Uganda.

To ensure unity, sovereignty, and economic prosperity beneficial to all Ugandans.

To bring to an end to the repressive policy of deliberate marginalization of groups of people who may not agree with the National Resistance Army's ideology.

adiori0303:
Islam in the north is nit different from the south.
We all follow the quran and the sunnah if the prophet.
The sighting of the moon is the responsibility of all muslims.
Even the sultan relies on information gotten by any country that has sighted the moon and its authentic.
We have our phones and internet to check which country has sighted the moon.we do not rely on the sultan seat to declare fasting to us as muslins
The sultan seat us not a general body that covers all muslims in the country.
A sultan seat can nit determine who is and who is not a muslim.
If a sultan pronounces an injuction,we verify before we even try to follow.

If Islam in the North not different from the South what stopped a southern Muslim from becoming the President of NSCIA since1973 till date? Must you southern Muslims continue serving your slave's master in sokoto?

mhmsadyq:
At the conclusion of 2023 elections, you go know why. Since, you were too blind to see it in 2015 and 2019.

So that question is too difficult for you to answer, no wonder you're still slaves under that Fulani man in Sokoto

AntiChristian:
Sultanate council was created before Nigeria. The NSCIA retains it as it head. It is not an election that prefers one region to the other! It's a Caliphate!

So the NSCIA is not for the southern Muslims right?

AntiChristian:
No! They can talk but shouldn't lie! The bishops are fake?

Where do they lie, are those guys not fake bishops representing Christians during unveiling of the founder of Boko Haram? Why are they hidden their faces infront of camera if they are not fake representing Christians?

AntiChristian:
Did they call themselves bishops?

YES

AntiChristian:
Were they truly rented by APC/Tinubu?

YES they were rented by APC/Tinubu

AntiChristian:
He is Boko Haram yet his people like him.

Proof

AntiChristian:
And how did they claim the name of CAN? Seems telling lies is a Christian thing now!

Why are they covering their faces in front of the camera if they are not fake and if they are not been hired, also if they are not representing Christians. Will you accept such in Islam, won't you tag it as blasphemy thereby causing havoc at the end of the day?

AntiChristian:
Have you ever seen NSCIA make a comment on the political space before?

YES, YES, YES.. many comments. It's too early to be lying for allah and islam

AntiChristian:
Alhamdulillah for islam.

You ignored this question; Will you in NSCIA accept Christian-Christian ticket?

adiori0303:
In tge time of the prophet,an ordinary common man came to inform the prophet he sightedbtge moon.the prophet told him tonswear with the quran if he said the truth to which he swore.tge prophet gave the order that fasting should begin immediately.
We do not follow a leader hookline and sinker.
We first of all verify it in the quran and hadith before we act.
There is no confusion in the religion.
Absolutely not.
As muslims,we are being told,verify before u act.is my action valide according to the quran or hadith?
If yes,follow
If no,disobey

Can you read? These are the questions again, please stay on the track do not deviate


Is Islam in the North different from Islam in the South, why this confusion in your religion. Is Islamic calendar different? Why 29 and 30, is allah an author of confusion? Why exposing Islam with your ignorant?



You said it is not the full responsibility of sultan to announced the commencement of your Ramadan.

Sorry to ask, aside sultan, tell us who also has the authority to announce when to start your fasting? With proof

mhmsadyq:
It is your right to remain ignorant!

Ignorant for making you uncomfortable right?

Tell us the reason for this:

Since the creation of The Nigerian Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs (NSCIA) in 1973, we never see any Muslim as President from SE, SS, SW, NC, NE and you are crying on the leadership of CAN. tell us the reason for this?

mhmsadyq:
Exactly.
What brought Muslims to the topic?

Are you asking me?

mhmsadyq:
Think about this...

The prophet name and reverence is on the lips and hearts of over a billion person each day for over one thousand four hundred years now!

This is divine!
Sallahu Alaihim was Sallam!

That doesn't change his name from Paedophile, warlord, assassin, etc


Instead of crying on CAN's matter, can you tell us the reason for this question you intentionally ignored?


Since the creation of The Nigerian Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs (NSCIA) in 1973, we never see any Muslim as President from SE, SS, SW, NC, NE and you are crying on the leadership of CAN, please tell us the reason for this?

mhmsadyq:
Anyways, stop taking medicine for our headache!

What's the topic of this thread? Are you not the one taking medicine and crying on the leadership of CAN Whereas you are under Fulani Master that must gives directives to you southern slaves

mhmsadyq:
That means kukah must be highly revered!

We highly respect him more than your paedophile prophet, the anointing on him can break the yoke tormenting muhammad had it been your prophet is still alive

mhmsadyq:
At least bishop kukah is still alive even in Sokoto, the seat of the Khalifate in Nigeria.

If he is so important, why isn't he qualify to be CAN of Worms member talk less of CAN of Worms Chairman?

Bishop Kukah is a Roman Catholic Bishop and we've had two past Presidents from Roman Catholic Church that's why he can't be appointed as CAN President for this New tenure.

Since the creation of The Nigerian Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs (NSCIA) in 1973, we never see any Muslim as President from SE, SS, SW, NC, NE and you are crying on the leadership of CAN.

adiori0303:
Its on record that people in the north sknetines dont begin fasting when we do here in the south west.
Some fast 30,some 29.

So Islam in the North is different from Islam in the South, why this confusion in your religion. Is Islamic calendar different? Why 29 and 30, is allah an author of confusion? Why exposing Islam with your ignorant

adiori0303:
It depends onnwhen the moon is sighted.
Also,its not the full responsibility of the sultan go declare fasting.
Once it is sighted in any state,then fasging begins.

You said it is not the full responsibility of sultan to announced the commencement of your Ramadan.

Sorry to ask, aside Sultan who also has the authority to announce when to start your fasting? With proof

mhmsadyq:
What is this one saying?

Why not ask your imam what this one is saying

mhmsadyq:
Ask if you don't know.

I should ask the reason why Fulani is your master in which you must follow his directives as Southern slaves right?

With the situation of things in Islam, I don't think allah recognized Southern Muslims as his own slaves

ANTIlSLAM:
This liar for Islam and allah has come again, anyways thank God CAN has past President from NC show us your own President in Nigerian Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs that is not from North or are you southern Muslims not recognized by allah?

adiori0303:
Authoritatively,u can ask any muslim around.
We as muslims are not bounded by the laws of the sultan.
[b]Although the muslims see him as a muslim leader,[/b]we are not bounded by all the laws he administers.
When he gives directives on a matter,we tell him-is it in the hadith and quran?
If it us tgere,we follow it,but if it isnt,tgen we have the right to disobey.

The bolded part is where I based my point on, you see him as your Islamic leader in Nigeria, he is the one to tell you when to start and end ramadan.

★ Must he be him everytime?
★When is a Southern Muslim will gives directives to Northern Muslims on when to start and end Ramadan?
★When is a Southern Muslim shall be the leader of Nigerian Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs?
★Are Southern Muslims not recognized by allah as someone said in his comment?

MaxInDHouse:
Please we're both on a faceless and VOICELESS forum so what do you mean by "CRYING LOUD"

You can ask you leaders in Jw

AntiChristian:
There's a lot of difference between the Sultanate council and the CAN.

The Sultanate council is the head of the Islamic affairs in Nigeria. This was created in Sokoto even before Nigeria was joined by Lugard.
The council is never polical.

CAN on the other have are composed is some associations from the Christians. It was created long after. All the leadership are mainly from the south with the only NC from Kogi named John Olorunfemi Something (more like Yoruba).

CAN has always being political and actively vibrant in PDP politics.
The recent lie has been exposed where they called pastors fake at Shetima's unveiling!

Nigerian Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs was created in 1974, that's the head of Islamic affairs in Nigeria in which since 1974 till date there's no record of southern Muslim as the head of this organization, WHY?


CAN is not political or whatever as you said, are you saying CAN shouldn't talk when those fake bishops that went to the unveiling of the founder of Boko Haram in the name of CAN are not members of this Christian's body? Will you in NSCIA accepted Christian-Christian ticket?

MaxInDHouse:
When Muhammad was alive he told his disciples that they should hold themselves because Allah can do and undo so he can't guarantee anyone's salvation.

But Jesus said:

“All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth" Matthew 28:18

Moreover Muhammad's disciples will surrender their lives to save Muhammad but Jesus surrendered his own life for his disciples and when Peter (one of his friends) tried to fight for Jesus he rebuked him! Matthew 26:52

So true Christians can't think of fighting for Jesus who has been given all the power both in heaven and on earth!

In a nutshell, Muhammad was not sure of his aftermath?

MaxInDHouse:
Well what do you think about me if i'm quoting what a first century Jewish teacher said?
Surely you should know that i'm one of those that treasured his sayings in their hearts! John 15:14

If you are among them why crying loud then?

adiori0303:
Does the sultan seat cover the whole federation including the south west.

YES, he is the head of Nigerian Supreme Council for Islamic Affairs and not the head of Northern Nigerian supreme Council for Islamic affairs.

That's why Sultan is always in-charge giving directives to all Nigerian Muslims on when to commence ramadan, when to have sallah, etc

mhmsadyq:
Abeg no loud am!

Everyone knows that northern Christians are fake Christians.
They cannot lead among real Christians from the southern.

Bishop Kukah that's disturbing you in North is your headache.

Did you think Northern Muslims recognized you southern Muslims as genuine allah's slaves?

Christians in the past has appointed CAN President from the North, you'll never see a Southern Muslim as Sultan and the head of Islamic affairs in Nigeria till the End of the world because they are your Masters and you MUST obey their commandments

adiori0303:
He who must come with equity must come with clean hands.
Over the years of creation of the CAN,a northern christian has not been found worthy of being made the president.
Yet these CAN are trying to pull up northern christian sengi.ents like they really care about the northern christians.
Like fashola has said.
I think religion has to leave our public space and go back to where it belongs.in our homes and religious centers.

You need to ask what you don't know about CAN, Is Kogi state not in North?

When will you appoint a southern Muslim as your Sultan in Sokoto?

Do the Fulani/Hausa recognize Southern Muslims are genuine allah's slaves that practice correct Islam ?

MaxInDHouse:
The one i quoted was talking to a large audience {Matthew 5:1-2} so who do you think should keep his saying?
Well the title of your thread is:

"To All Christians"

So if Jesus the one known as CHRIST is talking surely it's his disciples that are supposed to keep his sayings! Matthew 7:24-27

May you have PEACE!

Are you not among those that ought to pray?

Can somebody honestly shed some light why muslims would kill, fight and defend their prophet while the christians would only pray and ask God to defend himself.

With unrest around the world caused by slaves of Allah, muslims are always quick to anger with violent response in defense of their faith.


I would very much want to know why the two religion differ so much in their approach to negative or contrary issues against them.