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Lukuluku69:
"People send Books" includes Zoroastrians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists.

I can't recall Jesus writing any "Books" though he preached a certain "Injeel" which is just his utterances about the coming Kingdom of God.

But hey if you want to do attachee, you are welcome 😁😁😁

You will cry blood today, Allah has put you to shame

Allah even gave you a special name here, INFIDELS



Quran 10:94 Al-muntakhab fi tafsir al-Qur‘an al-Karim

We never sent and inspired before you O Muhammad but men chosen from among the town dwellers whose deeds were natural to man, therefore, you -infidels- may ask those who are well versed in the antecedent Scriptures -Jews and Christians- if indeed you do not know

Lukuluku69:
Do "Friends" equates to "Disciples"?

The friendship of it has answered your silly question, isn't it?

Lukuluku69:
Can you show me where it said or written in the Bible that Lazarus was a believer in Jesus pre-raising up?

Can you follow someone you don't have believe in?

Lukuluku69:
"People send Books" includes Zoroastrians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists.

I can't recall Jesus writing any "Books" though he preached a certain "Injeel" which is just his utterances about the coming Kingdom of God.

But hey if you want to do attachee, you are welcome 😁😁😁

This is not about Jesus writing a book, this is about Allah instructing you to ask people of the book just because you are not adequately equipped.

I still have many versions that will shocked you, including Arabic texts of it

Lukuluku69 can we proceed to your damsel?

AntiChristian:
Is the thread about Allah praying for Muhammad or for Jesus's claims? I really don't know why you guys like to derail thread when you have nothing upstairs!

You are too dull mehn, how does 1 million Kuwait you want us to pray over for you to get has to do with the topic? When your stupidity is out of control and failure to answer questions, you always found a way moving attention to something similar to your vigorous stupidity and nonsensity

AntiChristian:
So who bangs head on the floor? You are just being asinine here! Which church dey put head on the floor dey pray like Jesus did?

Head slammer asking me who bangs head on the floor. Idolaters such as sango worshipers, etc are the one banging their heads on the floor, they even observed ablution before banging their heads on the ground

AntiChristian:
Show us that Lazarus believed Jesus would raise him up before he was raised?
Show us that the gentile woman Jesus called Dog.....that requested for a miracle for her child, that the child believed in Jesus!.

Jesus performed miracles to prove that he was the divine Son of God, to strengthen the faith of those who believed in him, because he loved and had compassion for those in need, and because of the faith of those who believed

If you need 1 million Kuwait dollars, I will pray for you and you will have it I assure you that

AntiChristian:
How is this related to the thread?

AntiChristian:
Two Questions!
1.Is that a criteria in the Bible for Jesus to answer prayers?

It was related to the calamity you created for yourself not knowing that it will bounce back on you. Jesus prayed to his father, tell this house whom Allah and his angels send their prayers to while praying for Muhammad

AntiChristian:
Biblically Jesus left the world as Jew! Christians no dey put head for ground pray!

This is where your ignorance lies once again, Christians do put head on the floor to pray, we don't bang our heads on the ground as you are known for (Head slammer) in Islam, also we don't perform certain rights like ablution, etc before praying

AntiChristian:
I don't believe Jesus to be more than what he is, a man born by a woman, approved by God, he ate food, slept, sweated, was circumcised and urinated like all other humans!

There's no need calling you a FOOL!

And you want me to pray for you to get 1 million Kuwait right and you don't believe in who I will pray to that will answer your prayer, how would your prayer answered?

AntiChristian:
Jesus prostrated to his God
Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.” Matthew 26:29

Jesus prayed to his father as I said earlier in response to the question you asked above.

Islamic Allah with his angels prayed to an unknown incarnate when they prayed for muhammad. You need to address that catastrophic in your religion why did Allah prayed to another incarnate if truly he is almighty?

AntiChristian:
Where did Jesus call himself "Lord and Savior"?

Is like asking where did Jesus called himself a Christian when he himself is Christ Lord and Saviour


The 1 million Kuwait you wanted, I am ready to pray for you and if you don't see the answer to that prayer you should call me a FOOL but did you believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour?

AntiChristian:
Two Questions!
1.Is that a criteria in the Bible for Jesus to answer prayers?

2.If Jesus can answer prayers, why did he have to pray/fast while on earth?

YES! John 14:14. He prayed to his father in heaven and not like Islamic Allah that prayed to an unknown incarnate along with his Angels when they both prayed for Muhammad


Back to the matter, I will pray for you and you will have such money but did you believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour?

This boy again

AntiChristian:
I asked you to pray that i have such money in such time since your prayers are always answered as a true Christian!
Somebody said i must have faith for my prayer to be answered!

So we asked did dead Lazarus have faith to be raised? Did most of those healed in absentia by Jesus have faith in him? Someone else had faith for them! So you have faith, pray now!

I will pray for you and you will have such money but did you believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and saviour?

Lukuluku69:
The Dead Man that was raised by Jesus, was he a believer in Jesus before his death or after Jesus raised him?

Pray for Antichristian to get that money and win his soul for Jesus abi miracle don tire Jesus ni?

How does the dead man Jesus Christ raised has to do with did you believe in Jesus Christ as your Lord to get 1 million Kuwait dollars?

Kobojunkie:
we continue then.... After quoting out of context two excerpts from verses of scripture, both unrelated to anything he has said and continues to say, this man continues to ramble on, eventually entering some sort of prayer session where he laces every incantation he makes with the mention of the name of Jesus Christ as though any of it has to do with Jesus Christ. A close look at what he is saying and you find he is essentially repeating more lines typically used by Babalawos and witches, all while wrapping them up with the many mentions of the name of Jesus Christ as if to legitimize them.

RightChannel:
Just YES or NO will settle this matter then we can continue




Is like your senses enters in coma when typing this nonsense

Kobojunkie:
The doctrines of your leader are all pretty much taken from the book of babalawo craft. Every utterance your leader hides behind the many mentions of the name or God is antichrist. Pick any single one of his sermons if you don't agree and we can easily dissect it against the Truth of God as written right there in Scripture. undecided

AGAIN

RightChannel:
The book of Job 40:16 he picked his references from, was it taken from the book of your village people babalawo's craft? YES or NO is the answer I want from you

alanto:
Current reality

Really

Kobojunkie:
Oh, well, I guess this means I should continue further analysis 1. Olukoya now descends deep into identifying every work of the enemy/demons as one well-tutored in the mind and ways of demons would. He convinces his audience of the hopelessness of their situation to send them panicking, by adding stories upon filthy lies of how demons are everywhere out to get them.

2. Finally, he introduced his second scriptural quote, but only like the first, he also quotes, again, out of context. A look at the scriptural soundbite in context reveals that the verse, again, has nothing to do with placenta bondage, and is not meant for this time and not a place like Nigeria either.
As you can see, even the second verse of scripture Olukoya pulled off during his sermon has no connection whatsoever to be drawn to any of the claims he made of his Placenta bondage doctrine, his many assertions regarding demons, spirits, placental histories.

3. And then Olukoya jumps right back to spewing fantastical stories yet again.

Just YES or NO will settle this matter then we can continue

RightChannel:
BEFORE WE CONTINUE, CLARIFY YOUR FIRST ALLEGATION. The book of Job 40:16 he picked his references from, was it taken from the book of your village people babalawo's craft? YES or NO is the answer I want from you

Is like your senses enters in coma when typing this nonsense

Kobojunkie:
The doctrines of your leader are all pretty much taken from the book of babalawo craft. Every utterance your leader hides behind the many mentions of the name or God is antichrist. Pick any single one of his sermons if you don't agree and we can easily dissect it against the Truth of God as written right there in Scripture. undecided

So minimum wage is the solution abi? Your inflation rate is going to 46.22%

Kobojunkie:
Continuing ... Note that up to this even this point in the entire preaching session, Olukoya has not provided even one scriptural backing for any of the claims and stories he has told in reference to his placental bondage rant — not a single one.

1. Now, the man enters a session of telling more fantastical stories. Stories that obviously cannot be verified elsewhere. The supposed victim is not named, nor is any evidence provided that can be used to verify his claims. He does this because, like the entertainer that he is, his audience is lost in his many lies at this point in the show.

2. Now, we find that his placenta bondage theory is in fact known by, guess it, Babalawos aka Native doctors @RightChannel. So, here we see that the placenta bondage diagnosis in fact came from a Babalawo, and so Olukoya even proceeds to pray based on the same Placenta Bondage diagnosis that a Babalawo gave to a supposed 72-year-old man. Do you see what I said now?

You're still ranting instead to do justice to what you started, you're rather beating around the bush while trying to shift the goal post

Kobojunkie:
The doctrines of your leader are all pretty much taken from the book of babalawo craft. Every utterance your leader hides behind the many mentions of the name or God is antichrist. Pick any single one of his sermons if you don't agree and we can easily dissect it against the Truth of God as written right there in Scripture. undecided

YES or NO will settle this matter

RightChannel:
BEFORE WE CONTINUE, CLARIFY YOUR FIRST ALLEGATION. The book of Job 40:16 he picked his references from, was it taken from the book of your village people babalawo's craft? YES or NO is the answer I want from you

Kobojunkie:
You must be under some sort of delirium that you can play the same trick Olukoya plays on you lot on everybody else. That sort of misdirection and coy only works on gullible close-minded folks such as yourself.

So, since you seem unable to respond appropriately, I will take it that you are working hard to deny the obvious still, and use that as signal to continue on through the rest of the sermon then. This is what you have been yearning for for weeks now so no let's get it over with.

You lost your senses when typing this nonsense earlier before right?

Kobojunkie:
The doctrines of your leader are all pretty much taken from the book of babalawo craft. Every utterance your leader hides behind the many mentions of the name or God is antichrist. Pick any single one of his sermons if you don't agree and we can easily dissect it against the Truth of God as written right there in Scripture.

Kobojunkie:
Yet more denial... let's continue .... 1. Without so much as a real explanation or at least a correlation of any sort, Olukoya immediately asserts he has been praying for something that supposedly has his placental bondage and wraps this dubious lie in the mention of the name of Jesus Christ and the same God whose precedence he completely ignored when he quoted earlier from Job 40 vs 16.

2. Olukoya adds yet another fantabulous take to arouse his already deceived crowd even further with a tale of how a grandmother was able to eat her grandchild's placenta and how that equally means the grandmother is inside the grandchild. In many cultures, the placenta is eaten by the family and nothing is made of such traditions. But somehow Olukoya crafts his own tale to delude his followers into believing his unscriptural tale of placenta bondage, which he continues to push without even one intelligent being standing up to question the obvious which is his tales do not connect to Jesus Christ or even what is written in Job 40 vs 16. With that irrational story, he has concluded that placenta bondage troubles destinies and wraps it up by claiming prayer and mentioning yet again Jesus Christ, who Olukoya never quoted nor even cares to know.

3. Olukoya again quotes from the verse it is clear at this point he has no real understanding for nor cares to know the meaning as he is more interested in pushing his delusion and making sure he feeds his crowd his lies at all costs.

Is this question hard again?

RightChannel:
BEFORE WE CONTINUE, CLARIFY YOUR FIRST ALLEGATION. The book of Job 40:16 he picked his references from, was it taken from the book of your village people babalawo's craft? YES or NO is the answer I want from you

Kobojunkie:
Let's continue ... since you think denial makes sense 1. So, this man, Olukoya supposedly quotes from a verse that has nothing to do with the placenta or umbilical cord or even a belly button and then proceeds to then assert that there is bondage associated with exactly those organs which are neither mentioned nor implied by what is in fact written in the verse. Then he moves on to assert that this bondage he imagines of these organs has to do with a devil. Why does it sound so much like this man has his Ph.D., not in the things of God, but rather in demonology— the study of demons and devils, and their influence?

2. He proceeds to concoct stories in support of his delusions. The vast majority of human placentas are tossed after birth since it has not until recently been known to be of use. But see how Olukoya uses this fact to assert that not knowing is of his spiritual dimensions and associated with demons and devils. Again, recall, Olukoya began down this path after reading from a completely unrelated Job 40 vs 16. Imagine the level of coy and misdirection that he employs here to shift the attention of his followers from scripture to that which is incoherent and utter bullsheet just like that. And his gullible followers continue to eat it all up as if their lives depend on all he spews.

BEFORE WE CONTINUE, CLARIFY YOUR FIRST ALLEGATION. The book of Job 40:16 he picked his references from, was it taken from the book of your village people babalawo's craft? YES or NO is the answer I want from you

Kobojunkie:
I find it laughable that you are seriously trying to put up a defense of this man's foolishness!

Nothing of what Olukoya claimed in the entirety of his long sermon — not even bondage or placenta or umbilical cord nor belly button comes from the excerpt he pretended to pull off of the mention of stomach muscles in that one verse— so where do you think it may all have come from if not from a babalawo's script?
ROFLMAO

You are the one displaying how foolish you are. In your previous post, you said the doctrines of your leader are all pretty much taken from the book of babalawo craft.

Kobojunkie:
The doctrines of your leader are all pretty much taken from the book of babalawo craft. Every utterance your leader hides behind the many mentions of the name or God is antichrist. Pick any single one of his sermons if you don't agree and we can easily dissect it against the Truth of God as written right there in Scripture.

Is Job 40:16 He picked his references from the book of your village people babalawo's craft?

Kobojunkie:
See me see wahala abeg! Again with the unintelligible responses!

How can God be the Babalawo when Olukoya is the Babalawo who attempted to assert that God's creature's stomach muscles compare to the power that rules over the existence of a man?

How can God be the Babalawo when Olukoya is the Babalawo who instead asserts that there is such a thing as placental, umbilical, and maybe even belly button bondage all from one verse where God boasts of the Behemoth which He created?

2. Your Babalawo leader picked a verse out of context he probably did not even realize was God Himself boasting of the Behemoth which he created. Then, Oyekoya proceeded to spin what are terrible lies into — not even the entire verse, but just the last half of it— a snippet from the verse about his delusions regarding bondage. Na real Juju that be!

The book of Job he picked was from your village people babalawo's scripts right?

You ought to show me one doctrine preached that was taken directly from the scripts of your babalawos or the manuscript of your village people (babalawos) has Job 40:16 therein?


You'll only keep on creating more problems for yourself

Kobojunkie:
As expected, an unintelligible response.

1. Who said anything about Babalawo creating an animal abeg?
2. The verse spoke of the Behemoth that God created— not an umbilical cord or powers in the muscles of the belly—but the Behemoth itself. Why in the world would anyone compare that which applies to a behemoth's stomach muscles to a man?

Shey God and Babalawo are now in the same category? Why comparing God's power with that of your village people (babalawos)

I will only pray to God to give you sense because you're senseless. Someone picked his reference from the word of God (Bible) all you could say is that it's out of context

Kobojunkie:
Is this an attempt at a trick question? 1. Here's Job 40 vs 16 presented in real light


2. There is the obvious issue of public prayer, which Jesus Christ said is solely the realm of the Pharisees and Sadducees. Nor am I going to address the fact that God made clear He does not answer the prayers of the unrighteous; the prayers, offerings, praises, giving, "good" work, pleas, etc., of the unrighteous, are an abomination to God. Any righteous man would be more than aware of that since He would have had to endure God's silence before finally attaining righteousness by the standard of God.

But anyways, this man proceeds to preach to you — his followers— by extracting out-of-context a verse about an animal God boasts of haven created and then asserts that his own(olukoya's) private interpretation of that one verse should rather apply, not only to your person but your entire existence. Isn't that the thing only a Babalawo would do?

3. If not by the power of great delusion(lies), how can extract Placenta, Belly button, and Umbilical cord from that one verse and then claim they all each carry power? No be Juju be that? And is Juju not squarely within the realm of Babalawos?

Kobojunkie:
anyways, this man proceeds to preach to you — his followers
— by extracting out of context a verse about an animal God
created and then asserts that his personal interpretation of that
one version applies, not only to your person but your entire
existence. Isn't that the thing only a Babalawo would do?

So since you've been in existence right there in your village, babalawo has power to create an animal not to talk of putting power in the muscles of the belly bah?

Kobojunkie:
Rightchannel, here's one we can bite down and process https://www.nairaland.com/7679964/problem-placenta-bondage-dr-olukoya#122977608

I have time for it so are you ready to dissect it against the Truth of Jesus Christ Himself? Or are you going to chicken out again?

Is like your sense is finally back, so how does THE PROBLEM OF PLACENTAL BONDAGE in which he picked his text from Job 40:16 has to do with the scripts of babalawos?

Kobojunkie:
I was busy with some other things but now I am done with them and able to give you the attention you have been seeking all this while.

Answer the question you left unanswered

RightChannel:
Show me one doctrine preached by Pastors JUST ONE not two or three that was taken directly from the scripts of babalawos that makes MFM members traditionalists

Kobojunkie:
RightChannel, Look, the doctrines of your MFM leader, Daniel Olukoya, are all pretty much taken from the book of Babalawo craft. Every utterance your leader hides behind the many mentions of the name of God is antichrist. Pick any one of his sermons if you don't agree and we can easily dissect it against the Truth of God as written right there in Scripture. Unless what it is is that you are afraid of being hit with the reality of your condition under the lies you feed from this man, which is understandable since a lot of you religious folks believe you are nothing without the delusions you have built your world around to this point in time, a lie by the way. So, again, pick a doctrine of his, and we go from there. it is that simple.

You're tired?

Kobojunkie:
Finally, As I said, the doctrines of your leader are all pretty much taken from the book of Babalawo craft. Every utterance your leader hides behind the many mentions of the name of God is antichrist. Pick any single one of his sermons if you don't agree and we can easily dissect it against the Truth of God as written right there in Scripture.

Dumbass you can put more effort

More mr slowness

Kobojunkie:
Finally, As I said, the doctrines of your leader are all pretty much taken from the book of Babalawo craft. Every utterance your leader hides behind the many mentions of the name of God is antichrist. Pick any single one of his sermons if you don't agree and we can easily dissect it against the Truth of God as written right there in Scripture.

Your idiocy displaying is my joy

Kobojunkie:
Finally, As I said, the doctrines of your leader are all pretty much taken from the book of Babalawo craft. Every utterance your leader hides behind the many mentions of the name of God is antichrist. Pick any single one of his sermons if you don't agree and we can easily dissect it against the Truth of God as written right there in Scripture.

Kobojunkie:
Finally, As I said, the doctrines of your leader are all pretty much taken from the book of Babalawo craft. Every utterance your leader hides behind the many mentions of the name of God is antichrist. Pick any single one of his sermons if you don't agree and we can easily dissect it against the Truth of God as written right there in Scripture.

I'm loving your asininity displaying since my question is difficult for you to answer

Kobojunkie:
Finally, As I said, the doctrines of your leader are all pretty much taken from the book of Babalawo craft. Every utterance your leader hides behind the many mentions of the name of God is antichrist. Pick any single one of his sermons if you don't agree and we can easily dissect it against the Truth of God as written right there in Scripture.

More lunacy