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If I should answer your question will you answer all my pending questions? Let's make it a deal

gaskiyamagana:
Using multiple names just as you are taught in Christianity (I.e multiple Bibles) to deceive, confuse and ultimately convince the gullible. You have entered this bus, it's either you alight on the road or you jump into the sea.
It is now the 31st time in one post and 2nd in this name. I will continue to serial the number of times I asked you in your deceitful posting names.

gaskiyamagana:
All of the above does not concern me. What concerned me and your colleagues have not answered is the question:

What is the religious affinity between a Christian in Nigeria and the twelve tribes of the house of Israel to whom the original Jesus was sent?

The above doesn't consign you for sure, I love this your question because this is what the authors of Quran are expecting from you for revealing Quran 10:94 that YOU SHOULD SEEK FOR KNOWLEDGE FROM CHRISTIANS. The authors of Quran sees you as clueless, illiterate, etc that is the main reason for that Quran verse.

I SO MUCH LOVE THAT QUESTION YOU ASKED, But will you answer ALL YOUR PENDING QUESTIONS I ASKED YOU FOR CLOSE TO TWO MONTHS AGO NOW?

mhmsadyq:
WOW!

Another diversion!!!

You said diversion, so tell me what I said in my last mention to you that I've not said before?

You will keep on exposing yourself with your ignorant

mhmsadyq:
ignorant one is you who has being diverting question...

You can now see why i said earlier that your bible carry translation wahala for head like gala.

Ok, now that you have changed it to about translation,

Why are some arabic translation using jehovah and some do not, if actually jehovah is the personal name of your god?

Also, why are some English translation using jehovah and some do not, if actually jehovah is the personal name of your god?

I hope you won't beg the question with another diversion.

I remain focussed on getting an answer...

Is this not the question you are avoiding to answer:


Quote Psalm 83:18 using the same Arabic version you used above, I want to check something

Use this same Arabic version by Ketab El-Hayat to qoute Psalm 83:18

I asked for Arabic translation by Ketab El Hayat but rather you are quoting English version of KJV. DOES ARABIC VERSION BY KETAB EL HAYAT and English translation by KJV the same? You are the one that came up with Ketab El Hayat version and to give us the Arabic translation of it gives you big headache

We'll start sending you back to Primary 1, you are lacking behind as far as western education is consign. All you know is TO KILL AND BURN SOMEONE TO ASHES FOR INSULTING THAT MERE PROPHET OF YOURS CALLED MUHAMMAD WHO WAS POISONED TO DEATH

mhmsadyq:
Seems dis one know about Islam pass christianity wey him say him be.

Anyways, no be me ask you for the old story up there.

This are my questions, oga;

What was the name or title of your god in Arabic before Muhammad?

Why is the bible in Arabic still using اللهُ as the name or title for their god.


Na wetin i wan know be dat.

Do you have problem reading that small texts?

Answer to your question is there, don't be moribund just read

RightChannel:
Hubal (Arabic: هُبَل‎) was a god worshipped in pre-Islamic Arabia, notably by Quraysh at the Kaaba in Mecca. Muhammad's Allah is actually Hubal, i.e. the Baal of the Moabites.

The daughters of Hubal i.e. Allat, al-ʿUzza and Manat, the three female goddess of pre-Islamic Arabia, are mentioned in the Qur'an.

Hubal was originally the proper name of Allah in Makkah... Allah was always a proper name in the Arabic sources and not a common noun, Allah was the title used within each tribe in Pre-islamic Arabia to address tribal deity instead of its proper name and that Allah became the Islamic substitute for the name of any idol.

Hubal's known presence in the Kaʿbah, there is no polemic in the Qur'an against him. In other words, while the Qur'an railed against Allat, Manat, and al-ʿUzza, whom the pagan Arabs referred to as the "daughters of Allah", it stopped short of attacking the cult of Hubal.

DO YOU NEED ENGLISH TEACHER?

mhmsadyq:
Good.

I believe the disgrace is for your god who said that his personal name is jehovah yet many bibles don't have that name in them.

You disgrace yourself through your ignorant, I asked for Arabic translation you're showing English translation. In your own primary school, Arabic and English texts sound alike right?

mhmsadyq:
Now, this question is still begging for answer:

Why is the personal name of your god omitted from some translations, if your god actually called himself by that name jehovah?

What was the name or title of your god in Arabic before Muhammad?

Why is the bible in Arabic still using [b]اللهُ as the name or title for their god.
[/b]

Reconcile the attached.

How many times am I going to answer this your question? Is reading English texts haram in Islam?

Hubal (Arabic: هُبَل‎) was a god worshipped in pre-Islamic Arabia, notably by Quraysh at the Kaaba in Mecca. Muhammad's Allah is actually Hubal, i.e. the Baal of the Moabites.

The daughters of Hubal i.e. Allat, al-ʿUzza and Manat, the three female goddess of pre-Islamic Arabia, are mentioned in the Qur'an.

Hubal was originally the proper name of Allah in Makkah... Allah was always a proper name in the Arabic sources and not a common noun, Allah was the title used within each tribe in Pre-islamic Arabia to address tribal deity instead of its proper name and that Allah became the Islamic substitute for the name of any idol.

Hubal's known presence in the Kaʿbah, there is no polemic in the Qur'an against him. In other words, while the Qur'an railed against Allat, Manat, and al-ʿUzza, whom the pagan Arabs referred to as the "daughters of Allah", it stopped short of attacking the cult of Hubal.

Topzee109:
He never killed innocent,

Muhammed killed Abdullah ibn Ubayy, to whom Quran 63:8 refers, and who was accused by Muhammad of slandering his family by spreading false rumors about Aisha (his wife). His son offered to behead him


Quran 63:7-8

Sahih Bukhari 6:60:424

Sahih Bukhari 5:59:462

11:
Islam does not encourage killing of innocent people- Zamfara Imam, Jangebe



https://dailypost.ng/2022/05/14/islam-does-not-encourage-killing-of-innocent-people-zamfara-imam-jangebe/

See as Sheikh is lying for allah, Muhammad ordered many killings after he was insulted


Muhammad killed Abu Rafi' ibn Abi Al-Huqaiq for mocking him with his poetry and for helping the troops of the Confederates by providing them with money and supplies



Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent a group of Ansari men to kill Abu-Rafi`. One of them set out and entered their (i.e. the enemies) fort. That man said, "I hid myself in a stable for their animals. They closed the fort gate. Later they lost a donkey of theirs, so they went out in its search. I, too, went out along with them, pretending to look for it. They found the donkey and entered their fort. And I, too, entered along with them. They closed the gate of the fort at night, and kept its keys in a small window where I could see them. When those people slept, I took the keys and opened the gate of the fort and came upon Abu Rafi` and said, 'O Abu Rafi`. When he replied me, I proceeded towards the voice and hit him. He shouted and I came out to come back, pretending to be a helper. I said, 'O Abu Rafi`, changing the tone of my voice. He asked me, 'What do you want; woe to your mother?' I asked him, 'What has happened to you?' He said, 'I don't know who came to me and hit me.' Then I drove my sword into his belly and pushed it forcibly till it touched the bone. Then I came out, filled with puzzlement and went towards a ladder of theirs in order to get down but I fell down and sprained my foot. I came to my companions and said, 'I will not leave till I hear the wailing of the women.' So, I did not leave till I heard the women bewailing Abu Rafi`, the merchant pf Hijaz. Then I got up, feeling no ailment, (and we proceeded) till we came upon the Prophet (ﷺ) and informed him."


Collection
Sahih Bukhari

Dar-us-Salam reference
Hadith 3022

In-book reference
Book 56, Hadith 231

USC-MSA web (English) reference
Volume 4, Book 52, Hadith 264[/quote]

Topzee109:
Proove me wrong, else, this is bullshit

Muhammad killed Abu Rafi' ibn Abi Al-Huqaiq for mocking him with his poetry and for helping the troops of the Confederates by providing them with money and supplies



Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent a group of Ansari men to kill Abu-Rafi`. One of them set out and entered their (i.e. the enemies) fort. That man said, "I hid myself in a stable for their animals. They closed the fort gate. Later they lost a donkey of theirs, so they went out in its search. I, too, went out along with them, pretending to look for it. They found the donkey and entered their fort. And I, too, entered along with them. They closed the gate of the fort at night, and kept its keys in a small window where I could see them. When those people slept, I took the keys and opened the gate of the fort and came upon Abu Rafi` and said, 'O Abu Rafi`. When he replied me, I proceeded towards the voice and hit him. He shouted and I came out to come back, pretending to be a helper. I said, 'O Abu Rafi`, changing the tone of my voice. He asked me, 'What do you want; woe to your mother?' I asked him, 'What has happened to you?' He said, 'I don't know who came to me and hit me.' Then I drove my sword into his belly and pushed it forcibly till it touched the bone. Then I came out, filled with puzzlement and went towards a ladder of theirs in order to get down but I fell down and sprained my foot. I came to my companions and said, 'I will not leave till I hear the wailing of the women.' So, I did not leave till I heard the women bewailing Abu Rafi`, the merchant pf Hijaz. Then I got up, feeling no ailment, (and we proceeded) till we came upon the Prophet (ﷺ) and informed him."


Collection
Sahih Bukhari

Dar-us-Salam reference
Hadith 3022

In-book reference
Book 56, Hadith 231

USC-MSA web (English) reference
Volume 4, Book 52, Hadith 264

Topzee109:
Proove me wrong, else, this is bullshit

You mean Muhammad never killed anyone that insulted him?

Topzee109:
He wants to kill an enemy not innocent

During those time fought wars where enemies attack them, so how's that a crime

Even in your Bible many prophet killed and fought wars

Is like you Muslims has a special school where they gather you and teach you how to lies and falsely defend the atrocities or crimes of muhammad

mhmsadyq:
Oga, stop disturbing my mention, if you have nothing new to say.

Since you have it why not post it and let's start another epispde so we can move on... afterall you brought Palm 83:18.


I have posted different english versions including arabic version of other verse without jehovah, why? If jehovah actually called himself by that name?

I want you to disgrace yourself by your ignorant. I thought you are adequately equipped but opposite is the case.

This is the answer to the question you are avoiding, I asked for Arabic translation but rather quoting English version from another version you didn't quoted initially just to suit your ignorant.

NEXT TIME PACKAGE YOURSELF WELL BEFORE DISPLAYING YOUR IGNORANT HERE

mhmsadyq:
Show us jehovah on these translations?

You can qoute the ones with jehovah.

You can't bully me!

WHY AVOIDING THIS QUESTION?

RightChannel:
Do you need English teacher to explain to you how to answer this question?


Quote Psalm 83:18 using the same Arabic version you used above, I want to check something

Use this same Arabic version by Ketab El-Hayat to qoute Psalm 83:18

Do you want me to exposed you?

You killed Deborah because of one prophet that was poisoned to death

mhmsadyq:
B[b]ible wey carry translation problems for head like gala.[/b]

Continue to console yourself with falsehood.

But, anytime you lie that the personal name of your god is yhwh we go ask you prove it from different bible translations.

Again

Where jehovah dey?

Why is the personal name of your god omitted from some translations, if your god actually called himself by that name?

If you are not answering this question, don't bother mentioning me.

I don't have any more time to waste with you.
For real...

Next time don't come here and be saying rubbish, why avoiding that question? Ohh it expose your ignorant right? Do your research thoroughly before coming here displaying how ignorant you've been brainwashed with by your Islamic leaders

mhmsadyq:
B[b]ible wey carry translation problems for head like gala.[/b]

Continue to console yourself with falsehood.

But, anytime you lie that the personal name of your god is yhwh we go ask you prove it from different bible translations.

Again

Where jehovah dey?

Why is the personal name of your god omitted from some translations, if your god actually called himself by that name?

If you are not answering this question, don't bother mentioning me.

I don't have any more time to waste with you.
For real...

Do you need English teacher to explain to you how to answer this question?


Quote Psalm 83:18 using the same Arabic version you used above, I want to check something

Use this same Arabic version by Ketab El-Hayat to qoute Psalm 83:18

Do you want me to exposed you?

mhmsadyq:
Why not deal with your conscience or the bible translators.
I am non of both...

Ok.
See other English translations...

Where jehovah dey?

Why is the personal name of your god omitted from some translations, if your god actually called himself by that name?

I understand your pains, I will make sure I expose you.. Don't tell me this English is too hard for you to comprehend


Quote Psalm 83:18 using the same Arabic version you used above, I want to check something

See disgrace, is this English too hard or YOU NEED HELP?

English and Arabic texts according to your Imam are the same right?

I want you to woefully disgrace yourself and islam at large

mhmsadyq:
After all appeal!

Neither did i respond in Japanese or Hebrew

Again:

Should we get you an English Teacher to explain this to you?


Quote Psalm 83:18 using the same Arabic version you used above, I want to check something

mhmsadyq:
Your conscience still dey disturb you ba?

Oda!
First thing first...
Let's settle Exodus 3:15 first.

Oya explain both translations of the same verse; Exodus 3:15.

Why is the personal name of your god omitted from some translations, if your god actually called himself by that name?

Pls. Don't deflect the question.
It is a straight forward question.

Thanks you in anticipation.

The question I asked you was written in English and not in Arabic or French. Here is the question again

RightChannel:
Quote Psalm 83:18 on this your Arabic version, I want to check something

Let's see if personal name of God was revealed as Jehovah or Not

OR SHOULD I HELP YOU OUT?

mhmsadyq:
I have made my point.

You can continue your parambulation without me.

Quote Psalm 83:18 on this your Arabic version, I want to check something

mhmsadyq:
I have made my point.

You can continue your parambulation without me.

Hope you see this?

mhmsadyq:
Mtcheeeeeeew,


The other nonsense don't deserve my reply.

It won't deserve your reply just because your ignorance was exposed

mhmsadyq:
Mtcheeeeeeew,
Bible wey translation don damage finish, na im you dey qoute like say na better thing.


I also quoted the same Exodus 3:15 from an Arabic bible without the يَهْوَهْ lies.
See attached

The other nonsense don't deserve my reply.

This is another one, don't be frustrated

Psalm 83:18

مزامير ٨٣ : ١٨
١٨ وَيَعْلَمُوا أَنَّكَ اسْمُكَ يَهْوَهُ وَحْدَكَ الْعَلِيُّ عَلَى كُلِّ الأَرْضِ.


Can you see where Jehovah is written there in Arabic? If you need an Arabic teacher, I have one that is very sound in Arabic language

mhmsadyq:
Mtcheeeeeeew,
Bible wey translation don damage finish, na im you dey qoute like say na better thing.


I also quoted the same Exodus 3:15 from an Arabic bible without the يَهْوَهْ lies.
See attached

The other nonsense don't deserve my reply.

Are you now been frustrated? Is this not Exodus 3:15 from the picture below? Anyways, The God of Abraham, Moses, Isaac never revealed himself as allah an idol Muhammad forced on you that has NO SON but has daughters Allat, Al-uzza, Al-Manat

mhmsadyq:
Mr. Parambulator,
I sure say i no confused reach you wey no fit tell me the name of the christian god in Arabic for how many days now.

Abi you and google or your pastors dey quarrel?

If you are not been confused, what is the meaning of this your response to what I told you? Is it allah that is hammering your head to be saying nonsense?

mhmsadyq:
Sorry,
I mean in Arabic.

To make yourself happy, you came up with this nonsense as allah inspired you

mhmsadyq:
LOL!
My belle oh, my head ooooooh...

This one bible don disappoint am.
Crucifiedgod don forsake am.
Allah don humble am
He becomes frustrated!

Make i attach another verse:
John 1:1--5
Qur'an 112: 1--4
You can disregard the historian!

Just stop the parambulation.

Who Bible disappointed? You asked where did Almighty God revealed himself as Jehovah, I gave you the Bible verse in English still you are not okay. I later gave you the Arabic translation of it from Arabic Bible but allah never let you see where يَهْوَهْ is written there, now tell me who did Bible disappointed? Bible is exposing your ignorance.


This was the question at first

mhmsadyq:
What name were the Arab christians calling their god in arabic before Muhammad?
Pls. don't bring that yhuh crap here. I take Allah beg you!

After exposing you again, you changed the question to

mhmsadyq:

Which god do the Arab christians call Allah?

Is that not confusion, may Jehovah deliver you from this bondage you put yourself

mhmsadyq:
I mean in Arabic.

You are always confusing yourself, why?

mhmsadyq:
You know this isn't true!

Ok. Since you don't want to be honest.


Which god do the Arab christians call Allah?

You can see the attached...
John 3:16
Genesis 1: 1--8.

Muhammad that brought allah was the originator of allah in Arabic language which is different from the one in Arabic Bible but telling me that the allah in your quran is the same allah in Bible means Muhammad's allah has a son called Jesus Christ

mhmsadyq:
My questions;

Why does the bible still uses Allah for God in the christian bible?

You mean English Bible uses Allah?

mhmsadyq:
What name were the Arab christians calling their god in arabic before Muhammad?
Pls. don't bring that yhuh crap here. I take Allah beg you!



You seem to be evading these questions.

YHWH, Eli, JHWH, etc They never called Almighty God by allah

mhmsadyq:
I think translations has done a lot of damages to that "collection of books"

Exodus 3:15

KJV(i) 15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, the LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.


Exodus 3:15
Tyndale(i) 15 And God spake further vnto Moses: thus shalt thou saye vnto the children of Israell: the Lorde God of youre fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Iacob hath sent me vnto you: this is my name for euer, and this is my memoriall thorow out all generacyons.


Exodus 3:15
ERV(i) 15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, The LORD, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

So your own translation is LORDE right?

Who reveal that to Moses if Not God?

Well, when will you answer the remaining questions?

haekymbahd:
Oga Jehovah was not mentioned in that Verse.

It is just like saying Right channel is the same name as Vriks khanolz even if you write this name down for Waec exam or use am open bank account Dem no go accept am..

Jehovah was not mentioned in which verse? Do you need English teacher to explain this to you or you have sight issue?


Exodus 3:15

And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, Jehovah, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name forever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

haekymbahd:
I never said God didn't revealed a name to Moses but Jehovah is certainly not the name? Even Jews themselves don't know...

Is it Muhammad that revealed this to Moses?


Exodus 3:15

And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, Jehovah, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name forever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

haekymbahd:
Funny you so you are expecting to see a verse on this in the Torah smh... Is changing the name of God part of a scripture.

If you want to know history from Jews themselves the internet is your friend make your research.

I repeat the vowels inserted into Jehova were extracted from the word Adonai.. kindly check Google...

You mentioned the text of Torah and to qoute a verse from the text of Torah is difficult for you

haekymbahd:
First of all Consonant Y and W from the word YHWH was change to J and V respectively to give JHVH.

Them later still add vowels from the word Adonai to complete am. Wahala no come too much.

If you are confused about this please research about it google is there Jehovah was inserted in the bible around 15th century so don't expect it to be in the Torah...

Do you need someone to explain this to you?

Yahweh is based on the consonants YHWH, which is one of the names for God.
Yahweh comes from the Hebrew word for “I am.” When God met Moses at the burning bush and commanded him to go back to Egypt and lead the people out, Moses asked who he should say has sent him.

Jehovah is the same name based on the Latin equivalents of the Hebrew letters: JHVH. Jehovah became the English translation of the Latin form of the Hebrew name.

haekymbahd:
This is about common sense Jehovah was not the name God gave to Moses

I think your eyes needs some medical attention, the name given to Moses here is allah if not Jehovah right?

Exodus 3:15

And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, Jehovah, the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, hath sent me unto you: this is my name forever, and this is my memorial unto all generations.

haekymbahd:
In your dreams which deity has this attributes or can be invoked by best names

Allah SWT said:

"And to Allah belong the best names, so invoke Him by them. And leave [the company of] those who practice deviation concerning His names. They will be recompensed for what they have been doing."
(QS. Al-A'raaf 7: Verse 180)

Allah is the unique name of islamic god which muhammad derived from his pagan father. Your islamic god Allah shared the same name with an idol in Pre-islamic period.

The pagans Arabians who lived in Saudi Arabia before Muhammad was born knew Allah as an Idol but there was no Islam in Saudi then

The question is how does these pre-Islamic pagan Arabs knew Allah even before Muhammad and why was Allah the name of an idol in Pre-islamic period adopted as the unique name of your Islamic god?

haekymbahd:
No idol can be invoked with all the best names in the world

Allah SWT said:

"And to Allah belong the best names, so invoke Him by them. And leave [the company of] those who practice deviation concerning His names. They will be recompensed for what they have been doing."
(QS. Al-A'raaf 7: Verse 180)

So Allah is the best name for an idol in pre-islamic period which was adopted by muhammad as the same Islamic god?

haekymbahd:
Are you asking me Jesus never specify he only said Eli so don't specify for him atleast he didn't mention Jehovah whichever God that is Eli/Allah will respond gods that are not Eli/Allah will not respond to this.

Can you reference your claim with Quran verse that Allah was called by Eli?

gaskiyamagana:
What is your headache with Sultan and Nigerian muslims? How did Sultan capable or not to lead Nigerian Muslims added value to your outsiders or out of wedlock tribe to the twelve tribes of Israel to whom Jesus was sent?
Shame, shameful indeed! Talking about other's religion and mute about yours religions out of inferiority. Pending defeat because of no sensible answers to my repeated question is making you dodging by jumping from one deviation to another to cut off my insistence.

As you said earlier by accusing Christians for commenting on your Enslaved Muslims section while calling them names, I think stupidity and madness are part of you for creating a topic in Christian's section, you ignored this because you've been exposed again.


You will ask the authors of Quran and your pedophile prophet Muhammad this same question that what is their headache for giving you permission to hates Christians and Jews and also to kill them?

Why can't there be uniformity on how and date to observes your sallah? Since there is only one moon, why confusing yourselves in fixing different dates for celebration of your sallah? There should be dialogue where you slaves in Nigeria will agree on the same date to mark your sallah


I am not forcing you to answer all my questions. I understand your pains and suffering, it is not your fault but the authors of Quran should be blame for revealing Quran 10:94 but do yourself a favour, create a new topic on what you are crying and ranting about, I will be so much delighted to answer anything you want to know that is giving you confusion. Failure to seek for knowledge from Christians means you are against Quran 10:94.


If you can't contribute anything relating to this topic "Sokoto Community Defies Sultan's Directives, Observes Sallah On Sunday" just walk away as nobody force you to be here, the exit doors are opened for you alone

gaskiyamagana:
Story, story ....
Were you not asked about being a Muslim or not before commenting on "Sokoto Community Defies Sultan's Directives, Observers Sallah On Sunday"?
Was is not madness for you and your comrades in stupidity to tell me to leave the topic of my religion for you transgressors?
Being not a Muslim ,the topic is not for you, continue barking till thy kingdom comes or leave this particular topic.

Are you suppose to create a topic regarding islam in Christian's section here on NL?

https://www.nairaland.com/5414319/holy-quran-other-names

I am so happy that you were ignored as nobody responded to the post you created. Is that not a stupidity and madness for you to have created such topic in Christian's section?

Tell your slave's brothers and sisters to stop disturbing Christians in their own section and see how Christians will leave your ENSLAVED Muslim's section for you in no time.

Back to the matter on ground, those slaves in Sokoto that defies Sultan's directives not to Observes Sallah On Sunday under the Shari'a law do you know their punishment? They woefully shame islam through their ignorance and degraded sultan as not been capable to lead you slaves in Nigeria, what do you have to say on this?