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Empiree:
like what what and what?. talk is cheap. Give examples

allah called Muhammad as a mad man but your alfas won't tell you this

Quran 15:6

And they say,"O you upon whom the message has been sent down, indeed you are mad.

You won't see them again defending their religion when questions asked are too difficult to answer

Empiree:
what did you expose?. Is there anything to hide in Islam we don't know about?. Talk something else.

We expose many things that has been hidden which your alfas did not want you to know

Empiree:
you think I was responding to Christians here?. Be like say you smoked Igbo. My comment to him has nothing to do with Christianity or christians. Get your fact right

Smiles!! Who caused this shameful fight and misunderstanding between you guys if not interference of Christians that are exposing Islam, muhammad and allah?

Antiislaam:
AntiChristian ooo Empiree and NeoWanZaeed has turn Nairaland to battle field, oya come and be their referee

Let us imagine both of them are opportuned to meet each other facial, it will be bloody between them and if care not taking, they will kill each other

See as Christian's analysis brought confusion between them, it is a big shame on them and Islam

Antiislaam:
Buhahahahaha Muhammad the one and only madman

I so much love reading that Quran verse

Rashduct4luv:
No, i don't. Angels in the Bible is capable of fighting Jacob (and Jacob won), impregnating humans and destroying Sodom. But Angels can't pin someone down! Now i get who is ignorant!

Who do you guys like this? Do you have reading and assimilating problem again? Go and read my texts again and again

Angel Gabriel didn't fought with Jacob, I've told you earlier that Angel Gabriel is the herald of visions, messenger of God and one of the angels of higher rank. He makes God's message understandable to people and helps them to accept it with a pure heart by NOT PINNING anyone's down..

Always read my texts before quoting it, you'll only look like an ignorant while arguing blindly

Rashduct4luv:
You ignorant Christians that only know how to abuse and exhibit how uncouth/ill-bred you were brought up!

I've been following most of you Muslims here on Nairaland and have many evidences that when you Muslims are been asked difficult questions, you will turns it to annoyance by abusing the person that ask you the question as a means of escaping to answer such difficult question

Rashduct4luv:
Wallow in your ignorance and lie peddling.

Sai anjima!

You are the one that is wallowing in ignorance as you couldn't read and understand my texts..

I said Angel Gabriel will never pin people's down while making message of God understandable to people and helps them to accept it with a pure heart. Angel Gabriel will never fight anyone, pin anyone's down, that's not his job and assignment. DEMONS PINNED DOWN MUHAMMAD and Not Angel Gabriel

You can ask me more about Angels, mention his name and I'll tell you his roles.. Always seek for knowledge from we Christians, don't be to know more than allah that gave you this instructions

NeoWanZaeed:
That's exactly what your forefathers do say to the prophets...

You get problem ooo, my forefathers has turns to allah that wrote this Qur'an verse calling muhammad as a MADMAN right?

RightChannel:
Quran 15:6

And they say,"O you upon whom the message has been sent down, indeed you are mad.

NeoWanZaeed:
Laughing..

This guy is mentally challenged

Let's see who's mentally challeng between Muhammad the paedophile messenger and I.

Quran 15:6

And they say,"O you upon whom the message has been sent down, indeed you are mad.

Who's now mentally challenged? Sorry if you are pained

NeoWanZaeed:
You don't even know that Bible means book..

And besides, it's useless.

Thank God Bible is not like your WAR MANUAL BOOK, Quran that is full of hatred against Jews and Christians, How to Behead Jews and Christians..

In as much you can force Muhammad inside the book you tagged as a useless book, that means MUHAMMAD THE RAPIST, ASSASSIN, WARLORD, etc that was poisoned to death was the MOST USELESS MESSENGER ON EARTH and that was why he was poisoned to death like a hungry MOSQUE RAT that was given a poisonous food because he's CONSTITUTING NUISANCE to the public

NeoWanZaeed:
Truth hurts. It burns you..

Hence the insults

So when calling Bible a useless book is not an insult right? Is like senses has eluded you

NeoWanZaeed:
Bible that's written by unknown authors.
Bible that Jesus even doesn't know it existed
Bible that its version and meaning different from each other
Bible that catholic own is different from protestants own


Using this useless book as prove is same as affirming the book as real scripture for them

And you're forcing that useless paedophile prophet Muhammad into this useless book, so your prophet Muhammad was very useless right? hisbah should go after your head

Rashduct4luv:
That Angel gave the news of a son to Mary. Was the news of a Son given to Muhammad? How was the actions of the Angels similar in those instances?

Do you have comprehensive problem? I said Angel Gabriel can never pinned anyone's down just because he wanted to pass a message, demons visited your prophet and not Angel Gabriel

Rashduct4luv:
You have your beliefs different from mine. Your own Angel Gabriel can't do what you said according to your Bible. According to Islam, Angels obey whatever Allah commands them and they have no freewill like humans.

Your allah knows that you'll have this kind of encounter in the future and that was why he told you to always seek for knowledge from we Christians

Rashduct4luv:
This is the work of Angel as you stipulate it or was that what is found in your Bible? Anyways, Islam is different from your belief!

Don't let allah the best of the deceivers deceived you to the core, Angel Gabriel will never pinn anyone's down just because he wanted to pass a message

29 or 30 days left, they are not even sure when their 1-0-1 fasting will start

Rashduct4luv:
So in essense, the hadith says Angel but you changed the Angel to Jinn out of your own volition. Then you started broadcasting lies about Jinn when the text says Angel. You are simply a liar.

I asked you a question but you failed woefully to answer. The same Jibril that visited Mary as written down in your Qur'an, did he pinned Mary down?

Angel Gabriel is not like Angel Micheal, you can use the internet to know more about the two Angels. Angel Gabriel will never pin anyone's down just because he wanted to pass a message.. Demons (Jinns) tormented your prophet in cave and not Angel Gabriel

Rashduct4luv:
The Islamic concept of Angel is that they obey the command of their Lord and they never disobey Him. Pinning him down was not to kill him.

So you agreed that he was pinned down the work of Angel Gabriel is to make God's message understandable to people and helps them to accept it with a pure heart and not to pin someone's down.. Several times this same prophet of yours went up the top of a mountain in order to throw himself down

Rashduct4luv:
Where is "Jinn" mentioned in the hadith?

Your question had been answered already but let me just add this to it so as to open wide your brain.

When the same Jibril visited Mary as written down in your Qur'an, did he pinned Mary down?

Rashduct4luv:
How serious is it?

How an ordinary jinn pinned down muhammad

Nice one

advocatejare:
Sahih al-Bukhari 3
Narrated 'Aisha (the mother of the faithful believers):
The commencement of the Divine Inspiration to Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was in the form of good dreams which came true like bright daylight, and then the love of seclusion was bestowed upon him. He used to go in seclusion in the cave of Hira where he used to worship (Allah alone) continuously for many days before his desire to see his family. He used to take with him the journey food for the stay and then come back to (his wife) Khadija to take his food likewise again till suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him and asked him to read. The Prophet (ﷺ) replied, "I do not know how to read." The Prophet (ﷺ) added, "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read and I replied, 'I do not know how to read.' Thereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read but again I replied, 'I do not know how to read (or what shall I read)?' Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me, and then released me and said, ….

Rashduct4luv this is serious oo

AntiChristian:
Seems you don't even know much about the verses you quoted. See who is daft here now?

Let me come back to your level of understanding, explain the two verses then??

RightChannel:
★ There is compulsion in the religion of Allah:

“So is it other than the religion of Allāh they desire, while to Him have submitted [all] those within the heavens and earth, willingly or by compulsion, and to Him they will be returned?”
-Surah 3:83


★ The verse below states that there is no compulsion:


There shall be no compulsion in the religion. The right course has become distinct from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in ṭāghūt and believes in Allāh has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allāh is Hearing and Knowing.
-Surah 2:256

AntiChristian:
When he started the abuse you didn't see that but you saw and respond to my reply to him.

That is Christianity!

Who abuse you and can you point it out where you were abused?

You never answer this, which one will you go for as a Muslim and a slave of allah?

RightChannel:
A verse of your Quran says There is compulsion in the religion of Allah while another one says there is NO compulsion So which one will you go for?

AntiChristian:
In Matthew 19 one rich man came to meet Jesus to ask him how he can make eternal life. Jesus first told him to fulfil the commandments. He said he has been fulfilling them.

“All these (commandments) I have kept,” said the young man. “What do I still lack?” Jesus told him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.” Matthew 19:20-21

One is to follow his messiah in order to be perfect.

The People of Noah followed their Messiah Noah and they were saved in the ark!
The people of Moses followed their Messiah Moses and were saved![b]

So you've agreed that Messiah means Saviour, good to accept that.

Do you have problem with comprehension? To be a leader does that mean a Messiah?

I gave you the tafsir of Qur'an 33:21 but rather you're still showing the level of your ignorance. The tafsir that I gave you does it shows Muhammad as the Messiah or your leader?

I won't use Bible verses because you won't believe in it but I will use Quran which you believe in.

In many places the author of your Quran acknowledged and referred to Jesus Christ son of Mary as the Messiah. I need a Qur'an verse where Muhammad was referred to as Messiah and not as your leader or someone you should follow.

Check this out

★ Qur'an 3:45

When the angels said: “O Mary! Allah gives you the good news of a Word from Him, whose name is the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, who is illustrious in this world and the hereafter, and who is one of those brought near [to Allah].


Is Muhammad giving the name Messiah?

AntiChristian:
The Tafsir you didn't read for yourself!

Let's see if you will like this Tafsir and show us where your messenger was recognized or called as your Messiah

The Command to follow the Messenger

This Ayah is an important principle, to follow the Messenger of Allah in all his words, and deeds, etc. Hence Allah commanded the people to take the Prophet as an example on the day of Al-Ahzab, with regard to patience, guarding, striving and waiting for Allah to provide the way out; may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him forever, until the Day of Judgement. Allah says to those who were anxious and impatient and were shaken by feelings of panic on the day of Al-Ahzab:

Is the command to follow Muhammad the same as been your Messiah?

AntiChristian:
No i am no! I think you are.

Indeed you are if you don't know

AntiChristian:
Who is the first one referring to and who is the second verse referring to?

Are you asking me? We are pointing out at the contradictions in your Qur'an in this thread but see the question you are asking me, nawa oo

AntiChristian:
You don spread your ignorance reach here?

Indeed in the Messenger of Allah (Muhammad SAW) you have a good example to follow for him who hopes in (the Meeting with) Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah much. Qur'an 33:21

Should I give you the tafsir of this verse to expose you the more?

AntiChristian:
You don spread your ignorance reach here?

Indeed in the Messenger of Allah (Muhammad SAW) you have a good example to follow for him who hopes in (the Meeting with) Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah much. Qur'an 33:21

Where is the word "MESSIAH" from this verse you quoted?

We won't stop exposing your ignoramus

AntiChristian:
Can you see that you lied previously saying
Did you see Jehovah commanding the people of the book to kill anyone that renounce his Judaism or Christianity religion by joining Islam?

I lied show us where it is written in the Bible to kill anyone that renounce Judaism or Christianity by joining Islam, that is just it.

AntiChristian:
I already have a thread on it before so you lied that i used google!

Abeg stop telling lies for Jesus!

Then let us see the thread where it is written that Yahweh made such commandments to kill those that join Islam after accepting Judaism or Christianity

AntiChristian:
So how does this contradict one another as regards humans, Angels, Jinns and other creations/ creatures?

Are you this daft?? A verse of your Quran says There is compulsion in the religion of Allah while another one says there is NO compulsion So which one will you go for as an agent of allah and Muhammad?

AntiChristian:
Read thread full before jumping in!

I've read it, come and defend your allah and his messenger

RightChannel:
It is forbidden and the penalty is to kill anyone that renounce Islam, is that good? Did you see Jehovah commanding the people of the book to kill anyone that renounce his Judaism or Christianity religion by joining Islam?

Since Islam has been in existence since the days of Adam, Moses, Abraham, Noah, etc you should be able to tell us if Yahweh said kill anyone that leave Judaism by joining Islam

Is a thing you can seek for google's help to assist you by searching for a passage in the Bible where Yahweh says kill anyone that renounce his Judaism by joining Islam since Islam started with Adam

AntiChristian:
Where are the contradictions in the Qur'an in this thread?

Can't you see this or we should explain the Contradictions in this thread as read from the Quran?

★ There is compulsion in the religion of Allah:

“So is it other than the religion of Allāh they desire, while to Him have submitted [all] those within the heavens and earth, willingly or by compulsion, and to Him they will be returned?”
-Surah 3:83


★ The verse below states that there is no compulsion:


There shall be no compulsion in the religion. The right course has become distinct from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in ṭāghūt and believes in Allāh has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allāh is Hearing and Knowing.
-Surah 2:256

AntiChristian:
All of them are correct. In an Islamic state (Country) changing one's religion is forbidden.

It is forbidden and the penalty is to kill anyone that renounce Islam, is that good? Did you see Jehovah commanding the people of the book to kill anyone that renounce his Judaism or Christianity religion by joining Islam?

Since Islam has been in existence since the days of Adam, Moses, Abraham, Noah, etc you should be able to tell us if Yahweh said kill anyone that leave Judaism by joining Islam