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Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Die for Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In by Rilwayne001(op): 4:38pm On Apr 08, 2015
AlBaqir:
Really I know by the time they reach the zenith of their ignorance, and thresold of their antagonism, when objective minds would have seen their lapses; then I will rather continue exposing them of their feeble uderstanding grin
Nice effort jare my bros, I just dont want them to frustate you with their inability to comprehend your subtle explanation. We are dealing with slow individuals here.
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Die for Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In by Rilwayne001(op): 4:31pm On Apr 08, 2015
truthman2012:
Rilwayne
I didn't see the need to refute the Op because most of your assertions were based on the carnal knowledge of the bible.
Dear truthman2012.

What is the different between the alleged carnal knowledge and the spiritual knowledge of the bible?


And again, spiritual explanations might not be meaningful to you and the people in your condition.
And here comes the escape route.

The same spiritual explanation that led christianity to over 44000sects. There is nothing spiritual here, this same spiritual led catholic to regard mary as the mother of God. Do you agree with the doctrines of catholic ?
The fact that you guys comprehend the bible spiritually shouldn't make you guys differ at all, don't you think?

Sin will always remain in the world.
Which makes the notion that jesus died for the sin of mankind a fallacious claim.

Jesus died for the sin of only those who accept Him as their personal Lord and Saviour. Not until you confess Him as your Lord and Saviour, His death has nothing to do with you.
Then what will be fate of those before him, and those that never get to hear about him.



It is certain that children do inherit the sin of their fathers.
Lets check ezekiel 18:

Eze 18:2 "What do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of Israel: "'The fathers eat sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge'? <<< The fact that Yahweh was asking the question of children inheriting the father's sin as above shows that He himself is not even aware of such thing. lets continue.
Eze 18:3 "As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, you will no longer quote this proverb in Israel. <<< Now, I ask myself a question here that is yahweh dead? why is truthman quoting this proverb again when yahweh said as long as he live no one will quote such proverb again. But as we can see today, christians are quoting as truthman did up here. Is this another lie or inconsistency?
Eze 18:4 For every living soul belongs to me, the father as well as the son--both alike belong to me. The soul who sins is the one who will die. <<< According to the underlined, how could Jesus have died for our sin when actually the soul that sin is the one that will die?

Away from here lets go to verse 14 an evil father is been talked about in the preceeding verse, the father he has done all detestable thing in the eyes of the Lord, the father has been condemned to die already, so what will be the faith of his son.

Eze 18:14...17 "But suppose this son has a son who sees all the sins his father commits, and though he sees them, he does not do such things:...... He withholds his hand from sin and takes no usury or excessive interest. He keeps my laws and follows my decrees. He will not die for his father's sin; he will surely live. << Truthman, please what does it mean to die and to live in the bible?

Eze 18:19 "Yet you ask, 'Why does the son not share the guilt of his father?' Since the son has done what is just and right and has been careful to keep all my decrees, he will surely live. <<Yet you truthman and other deluded xtian said I shared in the guilt of Adam? Since I have done what is right I just, since I didnt follow the footstep of my father by disobeying God, since i have been keeping his laws and decree, why should I share im his decree againhuh
Eze 18:20 The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him.

Truthman2012 please point out the difference between the above verse and the verse of the Quran that says:
Quran 17v15: Whosoever choose to follow the right path, follows it but for his own good, and whoever goes astray, did to his own hurt, and no bearer of burdens shall be made to bear another’s burden.

Do you want more precepts? ask and it shall be given.


Adam and Eve had not born children before their fall. Had they born one in their perfect state, the child would have been sinless. But they had all their children after the fall.
So, with the new sinful nature, they had all their children, thereby passing sinfulness to them because they came from their system. Then the children passed the same sinful nature to their children up to you and me. Therefore, the sinful nature became heredictory. With this, sin had dominion over man as there is no way a human can live without committing sins following the fall because his nature is a sinful nature. It takes Christ intervention to deal with the sinful nature. When you receive Christ, the sinful nature disappears and now a new creature, old things (sinful nature) have passed away (2 Cor. 517).
So sire.

if the original sin is inherited and children are born into sin,Jesus would not have awarded “innocence” and “pure” state to them, neither would he have said in,

Mathew 18verse3: and said, verily I say unto you, except ye be converted and become as little children, ye shall not enter the kingdon of heaven. would he?

Furthermore, I asked Ifeann a question on the second page where I said, the punishment God allegedly punish eve with is to suffer pain in delivering offspring, And I asked since jesus death is to cancel the adamic sin, why are women still delivering offspring in pain?

Yes, His anger persists. It was because of man's sinfulness God introduced the Law, the 10 Commandments.
If you believe the 10 commandments is to curb the sinfullness nature of man, then of what purpose is the alleged dying for sin of mankind? Did Jesus ever condemn these 10commandments? are xtians still oberserving it or not?

Anyone who broke them was severely punished.
And those who do not, are they still attached with the adamic sin?


Jesus didn't come to this world as the Almighty, He came as the Son and was frequently referring to His Father.
So now Jesus is not GOD again?

The bible makes it clear that there are three that bear records in heaven: the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit and that is why the use of 'Us' when God decided to create man (Gen. 1:26, I John 5:7). While the Son was here on earth, the Father was there in heaven to protect.
You are acting like a novice sir.

We have argued trinity on this board over and over.
First, John 5:7 is manipulation and a deceit by trinitirians, even other trinitarians like you do not use it in arguement cus they are all aware that its a fraud.
Do you want to argue Genesis 1:26?

The fact that you admit that the father was in heaven protecting it while jesus was on earth shows that they are distinct. don't you think?

Righteousness is not sinlessness. Righteousness is right standing before God without any sense of condemnation. That is, not knowingly committing sin. If they do by mistake, the ask for forgiveness.
Matthew 9:12-13 He says: “Go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice.’ For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.” .

In order to be saved,Jesus insists we have to repent of sin. Therefore, his ministry is devoted to calling sinners to repentance.

Now, from the underlined, who are the righteous? are they not also affected with the adamic sin since you claimed that we have all shared in it? why is jesus calling the sinners alone?
Politics › Re: Without The Igbos Contribution, Lagos Would Been Backward As Other Yoruba States by Rilwayne001: 1:31pm On Apr 08, 2015
OP

If we call igbos flat headd now you will be crying, are you that daft to d extent of creatingvsilly thread like this?

otu nne i
Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims Is This Justice??? by Rilwayne001: 1:00pm On Apr 08, 2015
Ifeann:
Dude who ran away.. i asked u questions and u refused to answer.. u know where i was heading with those questions. .

Please create more threads and mention me i will expose u for the lair u are..
Oh really, please come back to that thread and show me the question you asked that I didn't answer.
Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims Is This Justice??? by Rilwayne001: 12:59pm On Apr 08, 2015
Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims Is This Justice??? by Rilwayne001: 12:54pm On Apr 08, 2015
Ifeann:
Rilwayne001 do u want more links...

Islam is cruel to women
.
He ordered Muslims to beat women

The Qur'an advocates the beating of wives who are perceived
to be misbehaving.
Qur'an - 4:34 Men are the protectors and maintainers of women,
because Allâh has made one of them to excel the other, and because
they spend (to support them) from their means. Therefore the
righteous women are devoutly obedient (to Allâh and to their
husbands), and guard in the husband's absence what Allâh orders
them to guard (e.g. their chastity, their husband's property, etc.).
As to those women on whose part you see ill-conduct, admonish them
(first), (next), refuse to share their beds, (and last) beat them
(lightly, if it is useful), but if they return to obedience, seek not
against them means (of annoyance). Surely, Allâh is Ever Most High,
Most Great.

Before u start singing this is misinterpretion let's look at how others ttanslated it


Eg ALIM CDRom translations
Asad –beat,
Malik- beat
Pickthall –scourge
Ali- beat
USC site
Yusufali –beat
Pichthall –scourge
Shakir –beat
The free Saudi versionof the Koran also has BEAT
Robert Spencer also includes these :
Al-Hilali/Khan: “(and last) beat them (lightly, if it is useful)”
Sher Ali: “and chastise them”
Khalifa: “then you may (as a last alternative) beat them”
Arberry: “and beat them”
Rodwell: “and scourge them”
Sale: “and chastise them”
Daryabadi: "and beat them"
Pickthall, Yusuf Ali, Al-Hilali/Khan, Malik, Shakir, Sher Ali, Khalifa, Daryabadi and Asad are Muslims. Are their translations all "incorrect and offensive"? (reference)

Note: chastise means punish, thrash, inflict corporal punishment and scourge means whip, lash etc (Encyclopedic World Dictionary 1971, The Australian concise Oxford Dictionary 1987).


Look at where Mohammed says don't beat ur wife like a slave And see the reason he gave;


Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 466: ...The Prophet then mentioned about the women (in his sermon). "It is not wise for anyone of you to lash his wife like a slave, for he might sleep with her the same evening."
Ie. - beat her but not quite as viciously as you beat your slaves because u many want to have sex with her...!
see this mumu girl undecided undecided

After running away from my thread, so you have the chutzpah to mention me and type your usual trash.

More threads are coming.
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Die for Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In by Rilwayne001(op): 12:48pm On Apr 08, 2015
truthman2012:
Which thread? The thread you are derailing yourself by resorting to science in the bible. Smh!
Okay, okay.

Lets stop this once and for all.

Now please attempt those questions in the OP
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Die for Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In by Rilwayne001(op): 12:46pm On Apr 08, 2015
And here comes the Chief twister....After running away from the questions in the OP, they finally succeded in derailing the thread.

truthman2012:
You lack good understanding of the bible. The Book of Revelation is a vision. In vision, a lot of figurative expression are made. You will see many of such in the Book of Daniel.
According to revelation 9vs1 " The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss."
The star here represents a spirit-being who was given the key to open the bottomless pit
Judges 9:7-16 , trees voted for their own King. Judges 9:8 "The trees went forth on a time to anoint a king over them."
This is a metaphor. When it said that ''the pot calling kettle black'', does a pot have mouth to speak? Was the speaker in Judges insane not to know a tree is not human to anoint a king? That should show you it was not a physical tree.
Lemme just skip the above because its obvious you are twisting things up here.


The onus of proof is on you here that a rabbit doesn't chew the cud:
I have said it ealier on that Rabbits, are lagomorphs, not ruminants animal; they do not chew their cud. Now the onus is on you to prove to us where Rabbits ever chew their own cud. **no twisting of things please**

Leave this to the scientists as you are not an authority in science to have the knowledge to disprove. There are people who still believe the earth is flat. You can believe what you want. See: http://www.iflscience.com/space/there-are-still-people-who-believe-earth-flat-usa
Oh, so you mean since some group of scientist believe that the earth is flat then you believe science has proven that earth is flat? Do they also believe that it has four corners as the bible claim in Isiaha 11:12? when it contradicts itself again in Isiaha 40:22 by claiming again that the earth is circle?, Do they also believe that it is standing on pillars that prevent it from shaking, and is immovable.?

Stop derailing this thread biko
Romance › Re: Miss Nairaland Contest 2015 {nominations & Verifications} by Rilwayne001: 12:19pm On Apr 08, 2015
Medunah:
oh why thank you, i am charmed grin
I love your pics wink can I download it to my phone?
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Die for Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In by Rilwayne001(op): 11:58am On Apr 08, 2015
malvisguy212:
you keep on exposing your self, does this statement indicate the plant are in spiritual realm?
And why didnt you address my post?
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Die for Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In by Rilwayne001(op): 11:25am On Apr 08, 2015
truthman2012:
Each time you muslims get to where you don't know what to say next, you escape by ignoring. How long will you continue to deceive yourselves?
undecided undecided

Do you bother to answer those questions in the OP since your master was unable to attempt any?

Why are you even derailing the thread? I am sure that your son can't be as ***** as you've been displaying here. undecided

#AgbaJatiJati
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Die for Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In by Rilwayne001(op): 11:11am On Apr 08, 2015
Oh my God! shocked

You will always shoot yourself in the leg, and at the end of the day, its either you run away with tails between your legs or you copy and paste your nonsense as usual.

I have determine not to dignify senseless posts made by you and your cohorts, but not always, hence, you and your slow friends think you make an iota of sense when actually you made non.


malvisguy212:
is there any scientific evidence that say plants have an emotion?
In fact even stars and moon, do this things have emotion?
[b] And now out of ignorance you ask for scientific evidence in place of a spiritiual matter, but when our atheist friends ask for scientific evidence that God exist, you will resort and call the carnal minded belligeret peeps.

Now malviguy212, lets check very few of the scientific blunder of the bible. Does science prove the following fairytales and blunder of the bible?

1) According to revelation 9vs1 " The fifth angel sounded his trumpet, and I saw a star that had fallen from the sky to the earth. The star was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss."
how is that possible when stars are bigger than earth? Does star have emotion to have been given a key? **as you foolishly ask up there

2) Judges 9:7-16 , trees voted for their own King. Judges 9:8 "The trees went forth on a time to anoint a king over them."

3) Leviticus 11:6 "The rabbit, though it chews the cud, does not have a split hoof; it is unclean for you." Rabbits, are lagomorphs, not ruminants; they do not chew the cud. Prove me wrong

4) According to (1 Samuel 2:8, Job 9:6, Job 38:4, Isaiah 11:12, Revelation 7:1, Job 38:13, Jeremiah 16:19, Daniel 4:11, Psalm 93:1-3, Psalm 96:10, Psalm 104:5, 1 Chronicles 16:30, Matthew 4:8 ) The earth is flat, has four corners, is standing on pillars that prevent it from shaking, and is immovable. Can you prove this scientifically?

The above are just 4 of thousands of blunder in the bible. [/b]

Maby is another quranic blunder in science. Satan will be very proud of you guys.
Who control the world?


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Christianity Etc › Re: Muslims Is This Justice??? by Rilwayne001: 10:02am On Apr 08, 2015
johnydon22:
Saudi Arabia islamic court sentence a woman to six month in jail and 200 lashes of cane after she was ganged raped by 7 men..
Why this much discrimination against women.. !!! sad Injustice of the highest order)
You look silly with threads like this.

Stop spreading false news. undecided undecided
Christianity Etc › Re: Did Jesus Die for Our Sin? Which Sin? Ifeann Should Please Come In by Rilwayne001(op): 9:43am On Apr 08, 2015
^^

AlBaqir should please ignore these guys.
Any right thinking reader of your reply will see how slow they are..Smh
Romance › Re: Miss Nairaland Contest 2015 {nominations & Verifications} by Rilwayne001: 9:29am On Apr 08, 2015
Medunah:
no thnks . Seems u av a thing for d letter M, pls tell
me ur gf's name starts with M
grin grin you are my girlfriend.
Health › Re: 10 Months After Giving Birth, She Has Not Seen Her Menses, Pls Advise by Rilwayne001: 12:33pm On Apr 07, 2015
See a doctor
Politics › Re: ‘I Am Ready To Drag Oba Of Lagos To ICCJ’ by Rilwayne001: 12:05pm On Apr 07, 2015
haywire1:
hahahhahhahahaHaha grin, looking @ my igbo neighbour head now now, o'boy d head flat ooooo shocked shocked .

Igbo identity grin but one luv keeps us all together.

Peace
*
Hehehe grin grin

#OneNigeria
Politics › Re: How Christians In Nigeria Elect An Anti Christ by Rilwayne001: 12:01pm On Apr 07, 2015
Jetjacky:
I see your pattern and fear your fears, but I won't be crippled by it. you shouldn't too.

if our fear becomes a reality, then we fight. Nigeria is a Christian state and should remain so
Nigeria is not a christian state, Nigeria is a secular state. So stop your bigotry
Politics › Re: ‘I Am Ready To Drag Oba Of Lagos To ICCJ’ by Rilwayne001: 11:57am On Apr 07, 2015
These igbo peeps are over stepping their boundary.

They will surely regret their actions.
Politics › Re: ‘I Am Ready To Drag Oba Of Lagos To ICCJ’ by Rilwayne001: 11:54am On Apr 07, 2015
kay1one:
Good!
undecided flat head

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