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ilugunboy:Exactly |
Empiree: He will do is usual thing by copying and pasting off point post. |
ilugunboy:Its pathetic |
malvisguy212:Surah Nooh, Verse 17-18 And Allah hath caused you to grow as a growth from the earth, And afterward He maketh you return thereto, and He will bring you forth again, a (new) forthbringing. There is a similar ver in the bible Ecc 3:20 All go to the same place; all come from dust, and to dust all return. I dont seem to get your question, can you please rephrase it? |
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truthman2012:This is nonsense sir, absolute nonsense. Every man became a sinner because of his source, Adam and Even who sinned. Whether or not God visits the sin of the father on his children does not remove the fact that everybody carries the body of sin and dominated by it following the fall.I raised a pertinent question in this post you quoted. I asked jesus claim that he didn't come for the righteous but the sinners, and I ask you sir, are these righteous men not affected by the adamic sin? Since jesus didnt come to die for their sin, can we then call then sinners? A white man begets a white child because he is white. It is his nature.Yes Adam with sinful nature following the fall could not give birth to sinless children.But he was able to give birth to righteous children isn't it? Lemme ask you, can one be righteous and at the same time a sinner? The nature of sin was already in the children. Cain killed Abel.Now how would you classify Abel that waa killed by Cain, is Abel also a sinner? A suckling child bites his mother's breas.t and laugh, laughing means he knows he has done wrong, who taught him? The sinful nature.And you think a suckling child can differentiate between wrong and right? so that a little boy laugh after playing with his mother means he knows he has done a wrong thing? Can you remember yourself biting your moms braest while suckling during when you are very young? if you cant, then know that your point up here is another sham. It is not that you are guilty of the sin of Adam and Even eating the fruit, the point is man's nature that has become that of sin as a result of his father's disobedience. In fact, I don't know how to help you better.As explained up there for you Eze 18:14...17 [size=15pt] "But suppose this son has a son who sees all the sins his father commits, and though he sees them, he does not do such things [/size] :...... He withholds his hand from sin and takes no usury or excessive interest. He keeps my laws and follows my decrees. He will not die for his father's sin; he will surely live. We have seen the sins of ADAM, and we well not commit it, i.e. we will not disobey God, so why should you be telling us another thing I ask please what does it mean to die and to live in the bible? The same quran says people will bear the burden other people: Let them bear, in the Day of Judgement, their oown burden in full and with something of the burden of those without knowledge, whom they misled....Quran 16:25.This has already been thrashed by AlBaqir, please stop bringing it up again. What was the context in which the statement was made? Verse 1 of the Chapter 18 says "At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus saying who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven? The disciple must have been thinking about who Jesus will favour most in heaven and Jesus knowing what was in their heart said "except ye be converted as become as little children, ye shall not enter the kingdom of heaven" This is teaching them humility and not rivalry among themselves. Be as simple as children.Sir, I think you need to go back amd start reading the bible from back to back because it is obvious you don't kno what you are saying here, I am not you pastor to teach you the bible all the time. Infact the context of the verse debunk your lie. here Mat 18:3 And he said: "I tell you the truth, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. << the underlined shows that it not an arguement of greatness in the kingdom, but rather entering the kingdom, Mat 18:6 [size=15pt] But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, [/size] it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea. can you now see your lie? If children are sinless, why do they suffer the same fate as adult? They get sick, they suffer pains and in fact many die as children.Since Jesus has conquered since for those who believe in him, why are they suffering from pain? why are they stll getting sick? No, your reasoning is wrong. You should have asked again, why do Christians die afterall they have no adamic sin.Yes, indeed, why? So, what makes muslim women deliver in pains as they are not affected by Adam's sin?The bible claimed that the adamic sin caused women to deliver in pain, the Quran didn't mention rubbish like that. Jesus was Son in the Flesh and God in the Spirit.I don't need to address this for it further derail the thread.. I'm not bound by your arguments. You are free to believe what you wantOkay Jesus didn't die for the righteous. There were righteous people who died before he came and they could make heaven.If people are already making heaven before his allege sacrifice, then of what use is his sacrifice? Abraham, Moses and other prophet were righteous, not sinless.Can one be righteous and at the same time a sinner? All of them had their faults but the difference is that they had right standing with God and He overlooked their sins.And since he was able to ooverlook their sins, can we still call them sinners? People do not have the same relationship with God, some are closer to Him than others.Eze 18:14...17 "But suppose this son has a son who sees all the sins his father commits, and though he sees them, he does not do such things:...... He withholds his hand from sin and takes no usury or excessive interest. He keeps my laws and follows my decrees. He will not die for his father's sin; he will surely live. this verse is enough for any right thinking person that as soon as you do what he (GOD) wants, you have no problem. Micah is equally scathing about the sacrificial system: Micah 6:7-8 “Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams, with ten thousand rivers of oil? Shall I offer my firstborn for my transgression, …the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.” The notion sacrifice was brutally desteroyed up here, then you are told wat God want from you, whats your take? I may not respond to your post on this again because it will lead to an endless argument.Infact, you have tried, not like that olodo girl called ifeann. I am done for today. |
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AlBaqir:Nice effort jare my bros, I just dont want them to frustate you with their inability to comprehend your subtle explanation. We are dealing with slow individuals here. |
truthman2012:Dear truthman2012. What is the different between the alleged carnal knowledge and the spiritual knowledge of the bible? And again, spiritual explanations might not be meaningful to you and the people in your condition.And here comes the escape route. The same spiritual explanation that led christianity to over 44000sects. There is nothing spiritual here, this same spiritual led catholic to regard mary as the mother of God. Do you agree with the doctrines of catholic ? The fact that you guys comprehend the bible spiritually shouldn't make you guys differ at all, don't you think? Sin will always remain in the world.Which makes the notion that jesus died for the sin of mankind a fallacious claim. Jesus died for the sin of only those who accept Him as their personal Lord and Saviour. Not until you confess Him as your Lord and Saviour, His death has nothing to do with you.Then what will be fate of those before him, and those that never get to hear about him. It is certain that children do inherit the sin of their fathers.Lets check ezekiel 18: Eze 18:2 "What do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of Israel: "'The fathers eat sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge'? <<< The fact that Yahweh was asking the question of children inheriting the father's sin as above shows that He himself is not even aware of such thing. lets continue. Eze 18:3 "As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign LORD, you will no longer quote this proverb in Israel. <<< Now, I ask myself a question here that is yahweh dead? why is truthman quoting this proverb again when yahweh said as long as he live no one will quote such proverb again. But as we can see today, christians are quoting as truthman did up here. Is this another lie or inconsistency? Eze 18:4 For every living soul belongs to me, the father as well as the son--both alike belong to me. The soul who sins is the one who will die. <<< According to the underlined, how could Jesus have died for our sin when actually the soul that sin is the one that will die? Away from here lets go to verse 14 an evil father is been talked about in the preceeding verse, the father he has done all detestable thing in the eyes of the Lord, the father has been condemned to die already, so what will be the faith of his son. Eze 18:14...17 "But suppose this son has a son who sees all the sins his father commits, and though he sees them, he does not do such things:...... He withholds his hand from sin and takes no usury or excessive interest. He keeps my laws and follows my decrees. He will not die for his father's sin; he will surely live. << Truthman, please what does it mean to die and to live in the bible? Eze 18:19 "Yet you ask, 'Why does the son not share the guilt of his father?' Since the son has done what is just and right and has been careful to keep all my decrees, he will surely live. <<Yet you truthman and other deluded xtian said I shared in the guilt of Adam? Since I have done what is right I just, since I didnt follow the footstep of my father by disobeying God, since i have been keeping his laws and decree, why should I share im his decree again ![]() Eze 18:20 The soul who sins is the one who will die. The son will not share the guilt of the father, nor will the father share the guilt of the son. The righteousness of the righteous man will be credited to him, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against him. Truthman2012 please point out the difference between the above verse and the verse of the Quran that says: Quran 17v15: Whosoever choose to follow the right path, follows it but for his own good, and whoever goes astray, did to his own hurt, and no bearer of burdens shall be made to bear another’s burden. Do you want more precepts? ask and it shall be given. Adam and Eve had not born children before their fall. Had they born one in their perfect state, the child would have been sinless. But they had all their children after the fall.So sire. if the original sin is inherited and children are born into sin,Jesus would not have awarded “innocence” and “pure” state to them, neither would he have said in, Mathew 18verse3: and said, verily I say unto you, except ye be converted and become as little children, ye shall not enter the kingdon of heaven. would he? Furthermore, I asked Ifeann a question on the second page where I said, the punishment God allegedly punish eve with is to suffer pain in delivering offspring, And I asked since jesus death is to cancel the adamic sin, why are women still delivering offspring in pain? Yes, His anger persists. It was because of man's sinfulness God introduced the Law, the 10 Commandments.If you believe the 10 commandments is to curb the sinfullness nature of man, then of what purpose is the alleged dying for sin of mankind? Did Jesus ever condemn these 10commandments? are xtians still oberserving it or not? Anyone who broke them was severely punished.And those who do not, are they still attached with the adamic sin? Jesus didn't come to this world as the Almighty, He came as the Son and was frequently referring to His Father.So now Jesus is not GOD again? The bible makes it clear that there are three that bear records in heaven: the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit and that is why the use of 'Us' when God decided to create man (Gen. 1:26, I John 5:7). While the Son was here on earth, the Father was there in heaven to protect.You are acting like a novice sir. We have argued trinity on this board over and over. First, John 5:7 is manipulation and a deceit by trinitirians, even other trinitarians like you do not use it in arguement cus they are all aware that its a fraud. Do you want to argue Genesis 1:26? The fact that you admit that the father was in heaven protecting it while jesus was on earth shows that they are distinct. don't you think? Righteousness is not sinlessness. Righteousness is right standing before God without any sense of condemnation. That is, not knowingly committing sin. If they do by mistake, the ask for forgiveness.Matthew 9:12-13 He says: “Go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice.’ For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.” . In order to be saved,Jesus insists we have to repent of sin. Therefore, his ministry is devoted to calling sinners to repentance. Now, from the underlined, who are the righteous? are they not also affected with the adamic sin since you claimed that we have all shared in it? why is jesus calling the sinners alone? |
OP If we call igbos flat headd now you will be crying, are you that daft to d extent of creatingvsilly thread like this? otu nne i |
Ifeann:Oh really, please come back to that thread and show me the question you asked that I didn't answer. |
johnydon22:I see no reason why she should be punish for being a victim of rape, as tartar said, she might have commited another crime. The news looks so fake. |
Ifeann:see this mumu girl After running away from my thread, so you have the chutzpah to mention me and type your usual trash. More threads are coming. |
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