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Underground: Perhaps I am wrong but I noticed that all members of our special ops teams carry the same weapon. Shouldn't there be someone carrying the heavy guns such as the FN Minimi or something?I think it depends on the mission. The photos that Henry120 posted a few weeks ago of SBS commandos in NE Nigeria showed a commando on the back of a pick-up with a light machine gun over the front cabin. The importance of some sort of sub machine gun for suppressive fire cannot be over emphasized. |
Henry120: Very important guys, please look at the beach landing photo, the one with troops on the beach.................Well observed if I may say so. The same principle applies during extraction. |
zaandrew: And our A109 piolts fly orx. All A109 piolts qulfie on it.Point taken. Simulators are indeed nearly as good as the real thing these days. |
snydergp: I weep for you a illegal Igbo immigrant in the U.S who continuesly shows his ignorance. I've told you and your fellow fucktarts already about my rank in the SAAF I dont have time to stoop to your monkeys level of debating.If you are indeed a serving officer in the SANDF then I think you ought to be ashamed of yourself using such derogatory language. You have no respect for the uniform you wear. Nobody invited you to participate in this forum if you don't like the debate. You SAs find it funny when you run down our military, but don't like it when the tables are turned. ![]() |
snydergp: Now really it amazes me how you naai-ja boys want a 4th gen figther which is a top ten multirole jet, that is even rated beter then a SU-27/30 in in dogfight capabilities and overall avionics against a F-7.Cry as much as you want For your information, I am a regular visitor to international air shows and have seen modern and older fighters perform, so don't preach to me . What do you know about the F7 avionics suite? Go back to the cupboard you crawled out from. ![]() |
agaugust: ...and NAF 12 units of MBB 339 Jets came back from Italy after $85 million upgrade including more advanced weapons capabilities and modern electronic warfare technology installed.Excuse my oversight sir. |
ZDee: I see naai-gerian goons are still lying to themselves about the capabilities of their useless and incompetent army, ofcoz the chief goon agogust is still feeding the muds lies that they're all too happy to swallow.At least we are not blinded by shiny armour and a photogenic armed forces like you have. You probably got scared seeing the achievements of our Army against BH. Now silly man, unless your GRIPEN has the Joint Helmet Mounted Cueing System (JHMCS) with high off-boresight seeker (HOBS) and missiles to match, then I am afraid the F7 has a good chance. Live with it. ![]() |
Mike..ZA:The F4 that was shot down by Syria was on a training flight that allegedly strayed into Syrian airspace. The Germans were using F4s as their front line fighters until this year. Haven't you seen reports of the difficulty modern NATO fighters have had engaging Romanian MIG 21 Lancers within visual range due to their speed and evasive manoeuvres? Continue to underestimate. It is good for us. |
zaandrew: The helcopters are far from rust buckets.F7's are flying again and pilots have been keeping up their hours on the L-39s and Alpha Jets. |
Mike..ZA:You don't even know the radar, defensive suite and avionics set-up of the F-7NI. It is classified and I remember an officer saying they were pleased with it. So bring on your Gripen and engage in visual range dog fights and get the shock of your life. |
Mike..ZA:How can you say it is failing to curb the massacres. Do you know what an insurgency is? The facts are they have pushed BH away from urban centres, from their camps and strongholds, uncovered loads of armed caches at various locations, killed a lot of their senior leaders, have thousands of their fighters in custody and they are now mostly attacking from Cameroun at soft targets. Show me an army that has achieved this in such a short period of time? I will take this kind of "failure" anytime. Afghanistan and their NATO allies have not come even close to this. There are still bombs going off in Afghanistan, India, Pakistan, Iraq, Russia etc. Do you think SANDF would be able to handle a crisis like BH? I wouldn't hold my breath. |
(CNN) -- Gunmen suspected of being members of the Islamist group Boko Haram attacked motorists in northeastern Nigeria on Sunday, killing four, authorities said. Nigerian Army spokesman Brigadier Genera Ibrahim Attahiru said the men, dressed in military clothing, launched the attack on a remote road in between Ikwa and Gamboru-Ngala in Borno State, close to the border of Cameroon. "The military responded in hot pursuit of the terrorists and killed several of them," he said. Attahiru was not able to confirm how many Boko Haram members were killed. Borno is one of three states placed under a state of emergency by Nigeria's president Goodluck Jonathan in May. The attack is the latest round of violence by Boko Haram, whose name means "Western Education is sacrilege." According to human rights groups, the group has killed more than 3,000 people in a campaign to impose strict Sharia law in northeastern Nigeria. http://edition.cnn.com/2013/10/21/world/africa/nigeria-attack/ |
NaijaPikinGidi: Reason why he will remain permanently consigned to his baby bathtub! Nothing can change his immaturity!I tire O! |
Mike..ZA:Time and again it has been shown to you, but you refuse to acknowledge. I am not going to repeat posts. Go back through the thread and even see the video posted by agaugust during the Biafran war back then not to talk of the conflicts in SL, Liberia, Chad etc. |
Mike..ZA:Oh! so you are now comparing war with a bunch of rag tag rebels in CAR as real warfare, but it is not the case for Nigeria in SL, Liberia, NE Nigeria when mortar, artillery, attack helicopters etc were used? OK. |
Mike..ZA:Can you explain why Greece, Turkey and until a few weeks ago Germany use the Phantom F-4 which is an older frame than the F7? It is because of the EW and other sensor suites. The F7's suite and defensive aids are quite capable now that the other issues have been ironed out. You are just so naïve to think that a few alleged advanced weapons will defeat anybody. You watch too many Hollywood movies. People do die for real you know when shot. ![]() |
Mike..ZA:My goodness, you are naïve. |
drag_on: i told you both forces (Nigeria and South Africa) don't use BVR, which is the ultimate sensor,and significant advantage of any 4th Gen fighter in a air to air confrontation.What is the significance of your long range radar if you have to enter the range of your opponents tracking radar to fire? When you both see each other it's up to the pilots. Do you not know the role tactics play in a fight? Weapons without tactics is Hollywood.Spot on. It becomes 50/50 and then the skill of the individual pilots come to the fore as the F-7 is smaller and more difficult to keep a track of. |
Mike..ZA:Obsolete in your head. As I have always said, the equipment is only as good as the user. When were any of SANDF's shiny new weapons used in a modern war scenario? ![]() You can only talk the talk. NA walks the walk all the time. ![]() |
Henry120: There are so many defence acquisitions that are not for public consumption. I got my report from SIPRI. There are few sources that can match the professionalism of SIPRI.That is true, but a big project like this? I know there were rumours about the Pipavav deal with an Indian dockyard, but then I read somewhere that there hadn't been any progress. Don't get me wrong, nobody will be more pleased if it comes to pass. SIPRI did though make that error with the SU25s, lets hope they learnt from that. I suppose the Nigerian military can be secretive at times. |
NaijaPikinGidi: No be everything wey person go follow these idiots dey argue about. Several pages ago we dealt with dis same matter. Dem blockhead South Africans no dey tire at all?Tell them jare. |
Henry120: coming to the nigerian navy in 2015. 2 more OPV's from PIPAVAV, with an option of 2 more. 4 in total from pipavav. The same model of OPV delivered to the indian navy.I really pray it is true but I am really skeptical about this as it hasn't been reported officially through any official channels in Nigeria. |
Mike..ZA:And what is wrong with training using an amphibious support ship as the Nigerian Navy has plans to buy a LPD? That is forward planning. [b]The objective of AFRICAN WINDS is to enhance the capacity of African military forces to develop and improve their capacity to jointly plan and execute military operations in a maritime environment. The countries covered by the programme are: Morocco, Senegal, Ghana, Togo, Benin, Nigeria and Cameroun. Under the programme, the Netherland Maritime Forces is providing an amphibious logistic support ship, the HMNLS ROTTERDAM to support the training and exercises. The ship which carries a total of 668 troops, 4 helicopters and 6 special boats called Landing Craft Utility (LCU) and Landing Craft Vehicle Personnel (LCVP) is expected to be in Lagos from 15 – 18 October and in Calabar from 21 – 24 October. It also carries many Fast Raid Interception Special Forces Craft used in inserting small number of specially trained troops from sea to land particularly in creeks. The LCU is capable of carrying up to 120 fully equipped soldiers while the LCVP carries 35 Special Forces troops over a distance of 200 nautical miles. The LCUs and LCVPs are used to land troops from the sea to specific objectives on land. [/b] http://www.african-defense.com/?p=3692 |
[quote author=Mike..ZA]That's what Nigeria is good at: Getting trained by superpowers and never to use their skills in real combat. Here's a link below for you to read about a real combat tested system the G5 howitzer. A battery can fire the weight of a VW beetle in a minute,nothing comes close to this in Nigeria's arsenal. www.africandefence.net/fibs-war-on-m23-could-be-heating-up/[/quote AFRICA PARTNERSHIP STATION TOUBAKOUTA, Senegal, Apr 27, 2011 — A fast-moving river boat bouncing up and down the waterways can be an easy target for the adversary who may be dug in at each bank of the river. To compound on the boat's liability it can prove to be a difficult platform to hold steady when returning the enemy's fire. Accurate shooting on a fast river boat takes a skill that the Nigerians have honed. In the spirit of multilateral collaboration and cross-border cooperation--both cornerstones of Africa Partnership Station 2011--the Nigerian Navy provided six instructors to share their experiences with the Security Cooperation Task Force (SCTF) in riverine operations, while the Senegalese contributed their expertise is small boat maneuver. "Our specialty is we teach how to fight on water, on a fast patrol boat," said Nigerian sailor, Corporal Abiodun Egbikume, able seaman and a native of Lagos, Nigeria. According to Egbikume, the Nigerian Navy has a lot of experience with security in the Nigerian waterways protecting oil rigs from pirates. The riverine range comprised of about 400 meters of river banks lined with various targets at river and tree levels. The river boats motored off gyrating up and down while U.S. marines, with 60 rounds each, applied their new marksmanship skills to the test. [b]"We are conducting a live-fire range for riverine operations," said Lieutenant Moses K. Omopariola, chief instructor, Special Boat Service, Nigerian Navy. "We're here to teach the men how to shoot on the boat because the platform we shoot on is not very stable … it rocks, so you need to learn how to stabilize yourself while shooting at your targets." [/b]Rounds chopped down branches and made large splashes proving the skill of shooting on a fast moving boat is not an easy task; however, many found their targets. "It's important to apply the fundamentals because you don't want to waste rounds by shooting in the water, you want to be able to hit your targets," said Omopariola, a 2006 graduate of The Basic School, a U.S. Marine Corps officers' course in Quantico, Va. "You really need to conduct it proficiently." Omopariola and his cadre of instructors provide three days of classes before the Marines hit the range. The instruction involved a lot of tactics on river operations. The river range is not something Marines typically train to do, and the training amounts to more than just firing weapons at targets while on a boat. "You also have to take time to learn how to drive the boat; you have to learn how to read the wave and learn when to shoot and when not to shoot," said Omopariola. The live-fire range was limited to linear shooting, or shooting at only one side of the river bank; however, according to Omopariola, if in a multiple boat formation and the adversary attacked from both sides of the river, boat marksmen run the risk of accidentally shooting each other. "You have to be able to access your terrain and be able to shoot only at the enemy and not end up shooting yourself," he said. The Senegalese marines also showed their proficiency in maneuvering the boat on the river. The boat driver skillfully leaned the boat to its side to allow the U.S. Marines a better position and a more open view of the targets. "The big thing with this type of training is the cooperation that's going on between the Nigerians, the Senegalese and the U.S. Marines," said 1st Lieutenant Michael J. Thomas, 2nd platoon commander and executive officer of the Ground Combat Element, SCTF, APS-11. "[River operation] is something the Nigerians are very good at and the Senegalese have some skills, so it's something they bring to the table and show us how to do." According to Thomas, security assistance is about cooperation and understanding between partner nations in order to promote greater regional stability. Military to military events such as these enhance the interoperability and helps increase our partners' security capacity. "The partnership is great," Omopariola said. "We bring our countries together so if we have a common threat we can operate on the same platform. You are only as strong as your weakest link. If you have one who is not up the standards, he will mess up your entire operation." The live-fire course was part of APS-11, a U.S. Africa Command (U.S. AFRICOM) maritime security engagement program that is designed to strengthen participating nations' maritime security capacity. Marine Corps Forces, Africa is supporting APS 11 with a security assistance force based out of Camp Lejeune, N.C. The SCTF began its deployment in Ghana in March and is slated to continue its follow-on mission at Gabon in June. http://www.africom.mil/Newsroom/Article/8246/senegalese-nigerian-special-forces-show-marines-sm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao2ZYkaEwKk |
Mike..ZA:I take it you are not happy that NN are having training with American, Dutch, Spanish & British Special forces before then carrying out a beach landing/littoral warfare exercise? ![]() |
Mike..ZA:What, the same helicopters that are mostly grounded and haven't got enough fuel for exercises? ![]() |
chris365:Never could a truer word have been spoken. ![]() |
RSS South Africa’s military meltdown On the face of it, life continues as normal, but behind the scenes the South African military has been cut to the point where it's doubtful it will be able to live up to its African responsibilities. By Martin Plaut Published 29 July 2013 14:57 An honour guard lines up for the arrival of the US President at the Union Building in Pretoria, South Africa in June 2013. Photo: Getty The South African military – once feared across much of Africa – is today in steep decline. Its budget has been slashed; its equipment unserviced and unserviceable and its troops demoralised. In the 1980s – at the height of apartheid – the country spent four per cent of GDP on the military. Today that figure stands at around one per cent. While cuts were certainly justified, the scale of the reductions has done lasting damage to the Defence Force. This is, of course, not the impression the Ministry of Defence provides the South African public. On the face of it, life continues as normal. A major military exercise is currently under way with the United States military. And South African troops are being readied for deployment in the Democratic Republic of Congo, to participate in what the United Nation describes as its first-ever “offensive” combat force. This is intended to carry out targeted operations to “neutralise and disarm” the notorious M23 rebels currently operating around the eastern town of Goma, as the United Nations press release put it. This must have come as news to the South African military, since they were soon denying (pdf) any intention of fighting the Rwandan backed rebels. “We (SANDF) have consistently indicated that we have not engaged any rebel force in the in the eastern DRC and we repeat that that remains the case,” a press statement from the Ministry of Defence declared on 16 July. Since bringing a semblance of stability to the Goma area was the reason the force was created and this would inevitably mean fighting the M23, it is not clear what element of the plan the South Africans failed to grasp. Leaving this confusion aside, there are real questions about the South African military’s ability to go on mounting such operations. The past few months have seen a series of setbacks. Earlier this month it was revealed that the Air Force has no maintenance contract for the 26 Grippen fighter jets, ordered at great cost in 1999. Without maintenance they aircraft are almost useless. None of the Air Force’s Agusta light utility helicopters are flying any more, because there are no funds for the exercises. One of South Africa’s submarines – the SAS Queen Modjadji - had its outer hull damaged after hitting the seabed. This led to questions in Parliament, with calls for those responsible to be disciplined, and complaints that the accident “speaks of negligence and poor training.” The main naval shipyard, at Simonstown, is running at less than a third of the capacity required to service the fleet, and is – according to the Chief of the Navy, Vice Admiral Refiloe Mudimu - unable to recruit the skilled staff it requires. These issues come after years of grumbling from pilots, who said they lacked fuel and ammunition for routine exercises, and left for Australia, New Zealand and other destinations in droves. Only six trained Grippen pilots were said to remain earlier this year, eking out 150 hours flying time over the whole year. The opposition Democratic Alliance has called for a crisis meeting on the subject – pointing out that while funding is not available for essentials, the Air Force has been required to provide R50m (£3.4m) to fly government VIPS around the country and on foreign jaunts. “The South African Air Force are in danger of being reduced to an airborne taxi service for VIPs," said DA defence spokesman, David Maynier. According to Helmoed Heitmann, South African correspondent of Jane’s Defence Weekly, there is another critical issue, which no-one dares mention: the military is badly over-manned. “They need to kick out around 20,000 people,” Heitmann told the New Statesman. “But the authorities know if they do this, they will put men on the streets who have access to guns and an ability to use them. They would only end up filling the jails.” As a result the 88,000 strong military can’t be slimmed down, in line with its reduced budget. Heitmann believes the R40bn funding (1.1 per cent of GDP) would need to be doubled to provide South Africa with a force that can really meet the defence needs of the country. “At present the Defence Force can provide border protection, one African peacekeeping operation and can either patrol South Africa’s own waters or fight piracy in the Mozambique channel – but not both,” says Heitmann. Hanging over the debate is the perennial question of the corruption in the $4.8bn 1999 Arms Deal. This is a ghost that refuses to depart. Last month there were fresh revelations that the former chairman of Parliament’s Joint Standing Committee on Defence, Tony Yengeni, signed a R6mn kickback deal with a German company providing frigates for South Africa. Yengeni refused to confirm or deny the allegation. He told the Mail & Guardian newspaper “I’ve got nothing to say on all you’re saying”. A Commission of Inquiry into the Arms Deal was announced in 2011. It has yet to begin hearing witnesses. Commission critics say they have lost faith in its investigation, since they are being denied the right to cross-question witnesses. This is only the latest criticism of the Commission, which was previously accused of failing in its duty, for claiming that there is no evidence implicating the ANC in Arms Deal corruption. While all this is serious, the real calamity is that South Africa - one of the few democracies on the continent that had an effective military - is so limited in its ability to live up to its African responsibilities. Sending troops to the Democratic Republic of Congo is fine, but what about Mali, Somalia, the Central African Republic and the other conflicts that need to be addressed? As long as Pretoria starves its armed forces of the necessary funds, these needs will go unanswered, or the African Union will have to turn to the United States, France or Britain to pull its irons out of the fire. http://www.newstatesman.com/international-politics/2013/07/south-africas-military-meltdown |
Mike..ZA:http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32168:improved-nigerian-maritime-surveillance-and-response-cuts-crude-oil-theft-and-piracy&catid=108:maritime-security&Itemid=233 |
agaugust: reason why i war the south africans, dont judge a country like nigeria by the age or model of its weapons like Palmaria SPHA, Roland SAM, Otomat ASM, Swingfire ATGM, F-7NI Jet with a PL-9C SRAAM....Quite right. I have always said it is not just about the equipment, but also the person using it. |
agaugust: R.ape and M.urder is also increasing in south africa, recently your men now added both L.esbian cleansing R.ape, HIV cleansing new born baby R.ape, black men on white women R.ape to rank number one in the world with new inventions of R.ape 'science and technology'The BBC has gone to town with this problem. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-20971240 |
Mike..ZA:The situation is being managed with more platforms and surveillance equipment being put in place as your SA defence Web points out. http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=32168:improved-nigerian-maritime-surveillance-and-response-cuts-crude-oil-theft-and-piracy&catid=108:maritime-security&Itemid=233 |

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? Don't even talk about Biafra or sierra leone. YOU HAVE NO COMBAT RECORD!!!! Your ill experienced field commanders would make an embarrassing retreat when jets start flying over their heads or when precise shell start raining on their heads.