₦airaland Forum

BabaOwen:
With all this evidence staring at us in the face, don't you think Nigeria can still be sanctioned by the west if all this your conspiracy theory is true?

BabaOwen:
Are you sure the problem is from the Pakistani or from Nigeria? If Nigeria have the money, we might be buying it direct from China if Pakistan will be wasting time. China will deliver the three jets in one year

Hope you know we are still paying for this aircraft?

Is the UK also buying three fighter jets from the USA? So after the UK and US sign the agreement for three jets, it took the US 2-4 years before they start delivering the jet

lebuhsi:
IMHO, barring COVID, those birds would have been here by now, the pilots where suppose to start training in Q1 this year, because of the lockdown and global uncertainty, that wasn't feasible, they traveled to Pakistan in Q2, I think the delay could be caused by pilot training not been concluded
PS - I think he's just having fun, at trolling, I'm sure he can ride, we've been following this deal for years, the deal was only confirmed and payment made for by Q3 2018, I'm sure he knows this, If he wasn't you've made it known to him.

I've never seen anyone in the public sector as honest as the CAS, he doesn't speculate, over time, trust and respect has been built, That's
priceless especially when you come from these parts, he said the birds are coming, I don't know about you, But I'll take his word for it, it's obvious, some Pakistani technicians are already in Benue

Heartlessbanker:
Please pardon my ignorance, but why do ordered aircrafts take time to be delivered? sometimes it takes like 2-3 years. I mean, the aircraft has been made already(except they have to make as you order), is it not just to receive the order and then ship it? why take so long?

davidmarker:
It is a pipe dream because it has been going on for several years. It doesn't take 5 years to buy something.
Anybody except you guys know this is total nonesense.
You live in an alternate reality.

LTGEN:
He cannot help himself.
The day the 3 Birds land.
He will be crestfallen, bitter and angry.
It is who he is.

davidmarker:
With your kind of logics, nigeria will certainly not end up sending anybody to the moon. There are several reason why a person would have a "new moniker":
1) "I got tired of wasting my time talking to retards on nairaland, so I deleted my former account"
2) I didn't have an account so i created a "new moniker"
3) I am being harrassed on nairaland, so I deleted my former account and created a new one

...
These are just a few reasons.
Anyway, I will soon delete this account for being harrassed and wasting of time talking to retards.

davidmarker:
So you have been granted supreme authority to judge whom is trolling and whom is not ?i don't need to answer your question, it is a fact that your jf17 is a pipe dream. End of story, but you are free to continue hallucinating.

horlams:
Stop wasting your time

davidmarker:
Keep dreaming, forget reality. Nigerians don't like reality. That might be a consequence of the average IQ score of 70 in nigeria.

davidmarker:
Nigerians are real dreamers, just keep dreaming. I have abridge to sell to you.

davidmarker:
You know this same sentence was said to me 4 years ago ?
Even henry has long abandonned nigerian military issues.
I just wonder what is blinding your eyes.

kabe1:
This is by far the most investigate report available online.

He has just said what some of us here have been asking and saying from day one of this incident.

In this case, the accusers need to show culpability.

I don't support this government, but we cannot grow Nigeria by destroying the country with fake news, concocted stories, lies and sensationalism.

I look at the likes of Reno Omokri ranting on twitter daily, and I laugh.

This is a man that has been in government since 1999, worked under Atiku during Obasanjo's regime, worked under Jonathan as vice, worked for Jonathan as President, also worked for Atiku again in the last election.

What did he do all the years he was in power, let us as Nigerians hold our government to account, but we cannot destroy this country all in the name of chasing clout.

SerikinGamo:
This thread shows a completely different perspective that I haven't seen before.

kabe1:
There would be blood stains everywhere.

Or did the soldiers go their with mops, I don't understand?

I will never support violence by security agencies on civilians but it doesn't just add up.

iboboyswag:
To put some things in perspective so as not to be misconstrued, not that I mind anyways, we are all in search of the truth.

I for one want to know what truly transpired at the Toll gate. Even as I have never bought the common chants of a massacre, I am convinced that shots were fired that injured people but not convinced that they came from the guns the soldiers in all the videos carried.

Even the one CNN claimed was a direct shot into the crowd by one of the soldiers on site was a blank and from that distance would do no harm.

On the day of the incident, shell casings of pistol rounds were part of what was displayed by the protesters as what was fired at them.

From CNN's timestamp, the boy wrapped in flag was shot at 1:30am. This time is inconsistent with the time the soldiers were reported to be at the toll gate.

Further, plenty of statements from protesters from the same video evidence alluded to the fact that much of whatever shooting happened after midnight was not done by the military.

Several witness statements put the military at the venue for just about 2hrs max.

So the questions are;

1. Who continued the shootings?

2. Who shot with live rounds as all video evidence showing the military shooting to disperse showed only blanks being fired?

3. Several witnesses reported shots being fired from both ends of the toll, but video evidence shows the military only approached from one end... So who or what group were firing from the other end?

4. Witnesses say the military shot at them fatally yet many had the courage to carry the bodies and drop same at the feet of the men, yet they let them with an intact memory of what has just transpired?

These and more questions demand answers and if this was a ploy to cause a destabilization, it does not only cast an aspersion on the campaign for security and free civil right in Nigeria both just goes a long way to prove the gullibility of most Nigerians and the truth that we still stand on very fragile foundations on all that concerns our nationhood; something we are called by duty to protect.

In the words of Fareed Zakari on the American Election "...our democracy nation state is fragile and must be protected."

SerikinGamo:
I'm very sure you didn't watch the clip cos at least two soldiers fired directly into the crowd, but like I said earlier, you can't shame the shameless.

I encourage everyone who's yet to see the clip to watch it, it's just 5mins long and make your own deductions


https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/18/africa/lagos-nigeria-lekki-toll-gate-feature-intl/index.html

Toju200:
they are Airbus helicopters I've forgotten the name it's either AS355 or AS350

iboboyswag:
What did they show that we haven't seen before? The body wrapped in a flag or blanks being fired?

There is nothing there, just sensationalism.

jteku:
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kabe1:
This is fantastic news. We've built up a large fleet of patrol vessels and ships, after the delivery of the final OPV for the Nigerian navy, we should look towards acquiring proper fighting ships.

At minimum, 2 Corvettes and 1 Frigate.

Generally a good day for Nigerian defence watchers.

seankafor:
But honestly speaking.. if given power and same liverage,most of us here will do worst than this same military we are all castigating..even police..

No be same Nigerians dey dey do all sort of attoricites in their lines of work? Taking bribes and doing all sorts of illegals..

Go to the university and see the high level of abnormalities those lecturers commit, go to the hospitals..the same.

My friend was stabbed the other day and I escorted h to FMC Owerri, long story short, these guys requested all manner of bribes and protocols before they attend to my friend in need of emergency treatment.. if not for me(because I had my ATM with me) that my friend could have bled to death.. because he thought that as a federal medical center,it's supposed to be highly subsidized or near free( of not free).

Our pastors and imams aren't left out in the world of corruption and irregularities..

It's as if they are recruited from Mars and not from Nigerian society. They are merely a reflection of society, which you see in different guises where ever you go. Just mention you are Nigerian anywhere you go around the world and yo will in most cases be given a wide berth.

It's as if military personnel are recruited from Mars. Army, Police etc are a reflection of society.

The armies are Nigerians too and they are bound to be power drunk and corrupt too..

He who is without sin should cast the first stone..

Enough of the cherry picking.. check yourself first and restructure starting from you.. yes you reading this....

Toju200:
I'll advise you don't say what you know nothing about

SamuelAnyawu:
The Military should give out this information