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Are you dumb or is English that difficult to understand even though you have UK as your base?

Quote me where i said "i was taught" that actors is used to qualify both male and female

I said that "actors" is a general term for both male and female!! think my friend because it's a healthy exercise.

Read carefully what i wrote before:

romeo:
Shut up now!! You are sounding very pathetic, It was " Things fall apart"!! and his name is Pete Edochie. Stop talking about things you don't know and this your Yoruba "artise" people!! and mind you igbos do no have "artise" but actors

where were those prestigious actors and directors when alaba "movie" moguls took over the helms of movie making in Nigeria? make i hear word jare

romeo:
Dude try to learn something new sometimes, i believe that's the essence of this very site

Actors is a general term for theatrical performers (male or female) and the females are sometimes called "actresses" but the feminists find the term sexist. check oxford dictionary for reference

So stop being a dumbass by trying to correct me in that funny way.
You're even finding it difficult to understand your very self, then how do you expect others to understand you?

lucabrasi:
@romeo
if you check all my other comments on this thread,i don't front when i make mistakes and im always the first to own up, you were saying to me in a funny way that its not artise or aticee or artiste or arty,but actor and i replied you that as far as i am concerned and from what i saw in the dictionary you reffered me to actor is used for the male and actress for the female,rather than expending your energy on my spelling of artis or artise instead of artist wehich by the way i have corrected myself already,i have shown my own source of artiste,show me where it says actor can be used for the female theatre practitioner and if u made a mistake admit u did in your haste to correct me so that your friends will hail you, i still can't see where you were schooling me in english and u must have been a very brilliant kid or otherwise because your teacher taught you to use actor for both male and female yet you r trying to correct me that i shouldnt even use artise/artiste but use actor my guy u try o
hope you're not one of these people like that nigerian politician patrick obaiagbon

actor

• noun 1 a person whose profession is acting. 2 a participant in an action or process.
source: http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/actor?view=uk

Definitions of actor

1. [n] - a person who acts and gets things done

2. [n] - a theatrical performer

source: http://www.webdictionary.co.uk/definition.php?query=actor


It did not say male or female but it said "person", which means both sex

It seems our coach is going!! pep guardiola is coming in according to the local press here

sheniqua:
The best Nigerian movie I ever watched was "amazing grace" depicting slave raid in the Calabar area.
It was very professional and classy.

I thought "amazing grace" was about william wilberforce? starring that senegales singer!

There are so many things they can do, but they are always looking for easy things to do

So imaghi na esi m na ugwu Everest aputa ugbua? London marathon is nothing compared to ugwu everest!! infact anyi abuo di fit

Ikomi:
Shame. When your mates are going 6 to 10. Even she does not take anything less than 5.

Aba'nam

hahahhaha bia ikomism kedu iwe gi? na weekend ka a n'eme 6 rounds!

nnenneigbo:
Ifym, like i said don't worry ama m Romeo well well, m ga anodu ya odu ofuma. ka m hugodi ya first of all. ama m otu esi e show ya pepper.

, Nne i trust you now!! 2 or 3 rounds ka anyi ga eme?

D-reloaded:
sharrap jare

better than who? Oniranu. Although I'm not trying to diss them o,. just saying we can do better than cater to just them and be happy with it. When we get international recognition and awards then I will perosnally be proud. Until then I will criticize til Jesus comes back

I so much wish to see a standard Nollywood movie and believe me that day will come

D-reloaded:
Lol at known in Africa and beyond, lol by who? hairdressers? and people selling the bootleg copies for crack in Harlem. That is what you are proud of? SA have their movies shown INTERNATIONALLY, getting INTERNATIONAL awards and all you ahve to brag about is a bunch of cookcook watching the same tired story lines. Get some standards osisi. For your country's sake

Don't insult hairdressers miss , millions of them are better off than you and me

Uche2nna:
Of course, those guys have their own issues. I aint letting them off the hook but I am saying that they represent a part of the problem rather than the whole parcel. Other stake holders in the industry are quick to point fingers at the alaba marketers (a la Igbo traders ) as the bane of the industry. That is not true. The so-called "literate" sector of the industry don't even have their ish together.

However, I am not surprised that it is like that. You would expect this in an industry that is still young and growing. With time and a little bit of maturity coupled with a change in the TASTE OF THE CONSUMERS (that is another aspect people tend to ignore), these problems would sort themselves out.

I had tried to make him understand that!!

sheniqua:
Who cares the fried fish what is shown at amadioha festivals ?
The industry is thriving
It is known Africa wide and beyond
If you have ways to make it better why not contact Sanga and the rest of them at Upper Iweka
My responses were mainly to the folks that started spewing their hatred for Igbos under the guise of bashing nollywood.
Most of those folks are richer than you and me and that's a testament that they have a market

you and your secret love for IPBM.
You're calling him again

sheniqua:
monday morning quarterbacks.

damn!!!

lucabrasi:
artiste Show phonetics


noun [C]
a skilled entertainer especially a dancer, singer or actor:
sorce;http://dictionary.cambridge.org/define.asp?key=4185&dict=CALD

that is what i used and that has shown the word i used to describe them actually exist ,so what realli are you on about and what are you teaching??
i don't want to know what actors mean,and u actually said it in a funny way as if i was using a non existent word, please stick to the main and don't correct me because you have zero point realli,like i said i don't want to go into the whole insults thing as i honestly can't be bovered,if you don't understand what artise(got d spelling wrong)or don't have the foggiest idea it even exist,then you're the one who needs schooling not me, i don't see anyone saying they don't understand me apart from you trying to do i too know
if i decide to contribute in pidgin english,that i don't understand a single word will i be arrested or have i committed one sin??if not wats your point, stop the oversabi and contribute to the discussion or walk on by and leave me alone, not onli actors and actresses,u ll see osuofia in london and papi luwe next

dude you were not saying "artiste" but "artis" in all your previous posts
I was actually making a joke with that "artis" thing, because when i was a kid i was calling them artis like you

Uche2nna:
Beats me

@ romeo

Nwanna, take am easy

i dey take am easy ohhh

lucabrasi:

i wont go down the whole insult route with you because we r not in oshsodi or aj city,why am i sounding pathetic,dyu know how old i was when the film was showing?or would you have me leave my studies and start researching on who pete edochie is and what not,i see the ibo s don't have artise so the females are actors as well??that one pass me o but i guess if it sounds right to u sha,it must be, don't mind me illiterate osun state boy
my own little understanding of artise is combining both the female and male practitioners,but i guess they are both "male and female actors"(your words not mine koh?)
as to your question,all of them were there trying to make something of the industry,what happened was when the alaba traders came on board,they gave the money to make movies to producers who were of same tribe,and that started the making of the thrash we r seeing now,not only that they put pressure on these producers to turn their money over and return the capitals and gains because remember they are traders,it got to a stage where they wer making movies in less than a week,sell for the first 1/2 weeks and make their money and the movie is dumped for another one.
after a while the traders imposed their own families who knew nothing about the industry on the professionals(note not just yoruba but ibo professionals as well)and thats where the whole thing started going on a downwards spiral,
that was when these prestigious "male and FEMALE ACTORS"either joined them in making these horrible movies or go hungry,

Dude try to learn something new sometimes, i believe that's the essence of this very site

Actors is a general term for theatrical performers (male or female) and the females are sometimes called "actresses" but the feminists find the term sexist. check oxford dictionary for reference

So stop being a dumbass by trying to correct me in that funny way.
You're even finding it difficult to understand your very self, then how do you expect others to understand you?

lucabrasi:
i hear you and the well detailed info is quite noted,but pray tell me how old are all these guys even both dead or alive and how old is hollywood?
also did the likes of them kevin costner,richard gere and the rest of them start featuring in movies without knowing anything about film making,acting e.t.c at least even though they are running hollywood,there is still a level playing field for everybody even the blacks have a platform for their movies,the point im trying to make is that the game is not closed to just them but open to everybody to do their thing and also the industry welcomes talent,professionalism
u seem not to get my point,no one is saying the ibo s cannot act,i onli gave examples of the present crop of artise that are forced on us by the marketers,an example of a brilliant ibo artise is that bearded man that acted in the old old movie"the gods are not to blame as okonkwo"forgotten his name,also patience ozokwo,steph nora okerekwe,and others i can't quite remember their names as well,all we r saying is that the people who are heading the present nollywood happen to be the alaba traders,and because of the money they r trying to make,they r destroying the industry for all the professionals amaka igwe is a professional and ibo,the amata brothers i think are ibo not sure, what we r sayn is that the marketers who happen to be ibo are destroying the industry for both the yorubas,ibos,hausase.t.c another example of a brilliand ibo producer once again is amaka igwe im sure u ll agree with me that she is ibo and she actually said it on her visit to the uk with tunde kelani for a workshop they were invited to that the alaba marketers are destroying the industry,im not jelouse of anything either as a yoruba or as a nigerian because im proud of what the yoruba artise,ibo artise,even hausa artise are doing a woman like ene oloja started with the kanywood and even though she didnt have the exposure of the likes of the yoruba or ibo artise she has gotten where no nigerian artise has ever gotten to so if i was jelouse of a good thing don't u think she s the onlly one worth being jelouse of??let me ask u a question cause im confused, dy actually reckon the industry should continue to be run as it is presently?
well seeing as u v said you don't watch them movies,i do and i can tell you 99% of them are crap,the only ones that do well are the nkem owoh,aki and pawpaw,comedies generally

Shut up now!! You are sounding very pathetic, It was " Things fall apart"!! and his name is Pete Edochie. Stop talking about things you don't know and this your Yoruba "artise" people!! and mind you, igbos do no have "artise" but actors

where were those prestigious actors and directors when alaba "movie" moguls took over the helms of movie making in Nigeria? make i hear word jare

Enough pics of Florida!! people no get sense at all

Da Junta:
Hotstepper

oga tinye foto to support that claim

Jealousy will not let you smell something good when it's about to happen, Igbos will take nollywood to a higher level and not your people!! get that into your small head lucas.

you said the jewish run hollywood from the back? well no

List of jews you might think that they are not Jews:

Ed Asner, Bea Arthur, Gene Barry, Richard Benjamin, Kevin Costner, Lee J. Cobb, Richard Dreyfus, Ted Danson, Peter Falk (Columbo), Eddie Fisher, Harrison Ford, Richard Gere, Betty Grable, Sharon Gless, Jennifer Grey, David Duchowny, Alicia Silverstone, Natalie Portman, Mandy Patinkin Steven Segall, Dustin Hoffman, Monty Hall, Amy Irving, Jack Klugman, Leonard Nimoy, Ken Olin, Ron Perlman, George Segel, William Shatner, Peter Strauss, Rod Steiger, Jane Seymour, Barbara Walters, Debra Winger, and Bruce Willis.


Another list of Jews that changed their names in Hollywood:

Adopted Christian Name , Real Jewish Name

Joey Adams , Joseph Abramowitz

Eddie Albert , Eddie Heimberger

Woody Allen, Allen Konigsberg

Lauren Bacall , Betty Joan Perske

Jack Benny , Benny Kubelsky

Milton Berle , Milton Berlinger

Ernest Borgnine , Effron Borgnine

George Burns , Nathan Birnbaum

Joan Blondell, Rosebud Blustein

Joyce Brothers , Joyce Bauer

Mel Brooks , Melvin Kaminsky

Joey Bishop , Joey Gottlieb

Charles Bronson , Charles Buchinsky

Rona Barrett , Rona Burnstein

Cyd Chrisse , Tula Finklea

Tony Curtis (daughter is Jamie Lee Curtis), Bernhard Schwartz

Joan Crawford , Lucille Le Sueur

Dyan Cannon , Samile Diane Friesen

Kirk Douglas (son is Michael Douglas) , Issur Danilovich Demsky

Bob Dylan , Robert Zimmerman

Rodney Dangerfield , Jacob Cohen

Douglas Fairbanks, Jr. , Douglas Ullman

Joel Grey (father of Jennifer Grey), Joel Katz

Zsa Zsa Gabor , Sara Gabor

John Garfield , Julius Garfinkle

Judy Garland , Frances Gumm

Paulette Goddard , Pauline Levee

Eydie Gorme, Edith Gormezano

Elliott Gould , Elliott Goldstein

Cary Grant , Larry Leach

Lorne Green , Chaim Leibowiz

Judy Holliday , Judith Tuvim

Leslie Howard , Leslie Stainer

Buddy Hackett , Leonard Hacker

Jill St. John , Jill Oppenheim

Danny Kaye, David Kaminsky

Alan King , Irwin Kniberg

Larry King, Larry Zeiger

Tina Louise, Tina Blacker

Ann Landers (Abigail Van Buren is her sister) , Esther Friedman

1. Dorothy Lamour , Dorothy Kaumeyer

Miehael Landon , Mike Orowitz

Steve Lawrence , Sidney Leibowitz

Hal Linden, Hal Lipshitz

Jerry Lewis , Joseph Levitch

Karl Maiden , Maiden Sekulovitch

Paul Muni , Muni Weisenfreund

Ethel Merman , Ethel Zimmerman

Jan Murray , Murray Janofsky

Walter Matthau , Walter Matasschanskayasky

Lilly Palmer , Maria Peiser

Jan Peerce, Jacob Pincus Perelmuth

Roberta Peters, Roberta Peterman

Eleanor Parker, Ellen Friedlob

Joan Rivers , Joan Molinsky

Tony Randall , Leonard Rosenberg

Edward G. Robinson , Emmanuel Goldberg

Dinah Shore , Francis Rose Shore

Shelly Winters , Shirley Schrift

Gene Wilder, Eugene Silverstein

Winona Ryder, Laura Horowitz
source: http://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/toread/names.htm

The jews are almost single handedly running Hollywood and nobody is complaining except those Is'lamic freaks

The igbos should be allowed to do their thing in Nollywood because they know what they are doing, if not i can not explain how they got nollywood so popular in only 15 years of existence.

All Nollywood films can not be quality! some will be crap and others will be good just like they do in the Mecca of movies Hollywood

@luca
stop apologising for your Freudian slip

D-reloaded:
Do you have a problem with that?

since when does Nollywood equate "Igbowood", arent you the ones saying that Nollywood as an Igbo industry?

He calls himself a "Nollywood" director because unlike you egomaniacs, he's aware that Nollywood means films of Nigeria. not films of one particular tribe. perhaps you guys should learn from him

You just echoed my line of arguement here,

D-reloaded:
I think you are confusing me with yourself, romeo dear

which is why you are even hounding a thread in which you know nothing about just to look for a way to fight

when someone is wrong, I tell them. Unless you are batshit blind, you can see I critized what lucabrusi wrote. If it were one of your equally tribalistic monkeys you'd be worshipping them

My very good friend D-recargada

Ohh you just told that my daft friend Luca that you're all wrong

did you just called yourself a monkey?

D-reloaded:
Actually seeing that you don't watch Nigerian movies, how would you know who is in which and what? I can name 5 movies with Hausa people actually

Once again this isnt about so called "Yorubawood vs Igbowood". get over yourselves. It's about being exclusive in terms of actors in movies. Is that really hard for you to understand

Dont know why people that don't knwo shit about the film industry think they can jump into discussions and turn it into some tribal fight. You claim you don't even watch the movies, so what the hell are you doing here? You don't even get the point of the thread. Just looking for ways to cause "tribal warfare". Go read a book, jare.

I am responding to you and your Yoruba experts!! You can twist the conversation the way you like but you're a phucking tribalist

GIVE NOLLYWOOD A CHANCE-- TUNDE KELANI


Are you a lover of Mexican soaps? Are you a fan of ‘When You’re Mine,’ ‘Lorenzo’s Wife’ and ‘Second Chance.’ Watch out! You will have a chance to view better indeginious soaps soon because they are all headed for the dustbin!

According to veteran producer, Tunde Kelani, the days when cheap Mexican soaps will rule our airwaves are numbered: “Nigerian private production is on the increase. There are good programmes like ‘Super Story,’ giving those cheap Mexican soaps a run for their money. It is only a matter of time before those ‘Cheap Mexican dumps’ are yanked off the air. A lot of young talented people are coming into the industry now. There is going to be a re-birth of our soaps,” he told ‘Showbiznow’ recently.

Give Nollywood a chance
He also called on critics of the third largest movie brand in the world to give Nollywood a chance. “Critics like to com pare us to America,” he lamented, but they forget that the American industry is over 100 year-old. We are just 15 years. There is still a long way to go but if we put our act together, chances are that we might get there.

“I don’t agree with those that dismiss Nollywood on the basis of quality because it is beginning to improve. I believe that Nollywood is the greatest thing that could have happened to us as a nation. It has put Nigeria on the map. We have been able to take our destiny into our own hands. Hollywood is a monstrous 100 year-old industrial giant. They have the money and the structures. Averagely, a movie costs about $16million. Where are you going to get 6million to shoot a movie in Nigeria? He asked emphatically.

However, he said that Nigeria was lucky to have had the Nollywood experience because there are countries that have not even started. “Nigeria has become a benchmark in terms of development of cimema in Africa. You can’t take that from us.
According to him: “We are different. We are a developing nation. We have lost all our cinema infrastructure. We are trying to reinvente ourselves in the areas of democracy, electricity and portable water. We are struggling to keep up with education. Those are our priorities. You cannot then compare us to America. We have to take our own time and find our own path and develop at our own rate.

Celluloid to digital
Once upon a time, he was one of those that believed that digital video woulkd always be inferior to diugital video. Today he has become a convert: “ In hindsight, I think that it is only logical way to go. There was a time I had thought it was not possible but we can say that for the telephones. From analogue, telephone to GSM. Who would have thought that some bright people in the world can invent the mobile telephone that anyboduy can have access to?. It is more or less the same thing.

The Nigerian economy collapsed when we were shooting on celluloid and everybody thought it was the end of the world However, it has turned out to be the reverse. The new technology has empowered us. Now we have fair access to means of production. When it was celluloid, everything was imported from abroad and it was very expensive but today, anybody could have a personal computer, install an editing software and start makeing films. So on the one hand, it is may has ‘ democratized’ the means of production. That’s what ignited nollywood.”

Nigeria in the movies
Despite our rich cultural heritage, our stories are not being told in our movies. Kelami says that the reason for this is audience preference: “I think it has to do with the various stages of development It depends on who. As for me, I do projest that have4 connection wuth cinema and literature. A good number of films I have made are adapted from existing literary resourses and fiction. In order words, I have learnt to celebrate and recognize the importance of literature and cinema.

However he addede: “It is a question of expression. There is nothing that compells you to do it. There are people like Eddie Ugboma, who have done thematic movies like, The President and The Onitsha Women Riot. Our stories are being told but there is a preference by the audience. If the taste of the consumer changes, then you would see spometing different.”

He rationalized: “If someboy invests in business and he is getting returrns, why do you want him to change. Nobody is an expert at predicting audiences taste. Producers will tell you that they are businessmen responding to demand. I wont say that money consideration has taken over professionalism in Nollywood but I recognize peoples freedom of expression.

Financial reward
Could he reconcile his fame with the money in his pocket: “You know that the problem we have is funding. My current project, Agbara is threatened. We are just beginning to get subventions but I believe that is going to change. I have I have invested everything I have into film making but on the material side, I have nothing to show,” he conclude.

source: http://www.modernghana.com/movie/2003/3/GIVE-NOLLYWOOD-A-CHANCE---TUNDE-KELANI


That came from your Hero and he's not calling himself a Yorubawood Director but Nollywood director

lucabrasi:
exactly,seems each time it always comes down to jelousy abi tribalism or bla bla, you're even sayn tunde kelani when ogunde is there,not just ogunde but his son attained international standards,theres something these guys don't know ant the fact is that the nollywodd most foreigners watch actually pull yoruba s back,imagine an american tryn to watch a nollywood movie,what he/she wants is the traditional vibes or nigerian indegenous feel and the first thing he sees is jim iyke with the fake accent or rita dominic with the accent,have you seen the movie "apesin"you ll appreciate yoruba culture,i get what you r saying and the funny thing is that the yoruba movie industry is going in another direction now,the goun state government is sponsoring an 80 million naira movie ,it will be a yoruba epic starring the main artise,and its going to be the most expensive movie made in nigeria so far.i tire o,if the jews had tried to run hollywood because they put up the initial finance,imagine what hollywood will be like but they left it to the people who have the storylines and professionalism.fair enough but lets be very objective now,for an african to make a movie that will get international awards and for us to make an impact,we can't do it by copy and pasting hollywood storylines we have to be like them tunde kelanis,ogundes by being african and original.
and what is the easiest way,it is to use our history and tradition,the yorubas have the richest history,and tradition which im sure u agree with me,our language is the most spoken all round the world,and our cultures are known round the world,so what better tribe would you advance for their storys to be used?
we have sango,oya,obatala,ogunand these are just a few of the GODS theres the various stories of the yoruba cultures and other traditions,don't let me get started because there isnt space enough,the ibo guys are really trying because they are making the best of what they have but its not enough,they have used all the ibo traditios in the movies but u gys don't have that much in the way of traditions,we have more than enough to showcase to the world,why arent they allowed?another example is osun oshogbo,or eyo festival,ojude oba white people come from far and wide to participate,film and enough foreign documentaries,
@d-reloaded
you know u can watch yoruba movies on youtube,there are several good ones and they post some that are a couple of months old if you wana kill some time

This is biggest load of crap I've come across in my entire life!!!

The igbos have no tradition but the Yorubas do
The igbos have no professionals but the yorubas do
The yorubas are known all over the globe and the igbos are not

Why can't ogun state sponsor a nollywood epic? why the Yoruba one with 80 million and not nollywood?
And who are these school drama experts tunde kelani and ogunde? i have never heard about them dude!!

Go and tell ekiti, ondo, lagos, oyo and ogun states to bring out additional 80 million each to support Yorubawood and maybe we'll all be proud of Yorubawood as our national pride in movie making

You people are pathetic!!

How many Hausas do you people put in your miserable school dramas? and how do you portray them if any

Why are you people whining like little children all the time about nollywood and your people being better than them ( in your dreams anyway)?

talk about being paranoid over nothing

We are not thinking that way please! you can't be after us, you can make Yorubawood bigger than Nollywood and stop whining
Healthy competition can make Nollywood grow (without jealousy though)

I will be very happy to see Yoruba films making Nigeria proud anyday (with all their ghost professionals and expertise)

Some people decided to make movies for a limited audience and another set of people decided to make movies for a wider audience and encountered success on the way. that is is naija movie industry

If you can't beat them join them

Don't mind them

keep on whining!! onye nzuzu

Dey don gather again with their lame excuses!! Hypocrites

Only the Yorubas are the ones talking about their movies and that makes me wonder

lucabrasi:
.all these artises started out in the ibo movie scene and thats where they made their name,the fact that a couple of them made a name there doesnt mean its fair,we have a couple of nigerian names in hollywood and british film industry,doesnt mean they r fair,
thats why we r saying nigerian movies suck because they have been taken over by people who are traders and stiffled the real professionals who went to theatre school both in nigeria and abroad,do you know how long the yorubas have been involved in movie making?go check out ogunde and his production,he was making a film with hollywood called"mr johnson"before his death and the collapse of the whole project,its not tribalism ,its the truth, who in your opinion is the greatest ibo artise and ill give u names of yoruba artise that have been in the industry at least 15 years before him/her
most of these artise even amaka igwe(that big woman who is also a producer)she is ibo and she said it herself that the industry was taken over by alaba money bags who are not professionals,force them to use their families even though they have no experience of film making and most professionals have been frustrated out of the industry,most of them learn as they go,what theatre arts school did the likes of jim iyke,rita dominic,genevieve,even omotola e.t.c attend? tell them to act life on stage and thats where they ll fail woefully,u think they r brill artise because u v not seen them take their lines like 10 times before gettn it and using the fake american phonetics to cover up

A good movie will sell anywhere!! Yorubas can tell their rich people to sponsor their films and seek the help of the igbo people in selling their movies like every other commercial activity in Nigeria, Igbo people are business people and will grab the opportunity to make money when presented regardless of where the person came from.

You're all giving lame excuses, All movies made today in Nigeria are craps (yorubawood or nollywood) and i am no fan of them

Bunch of hypocrites