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Toju200:
The thing that is paining me is that you don't even know what you're saying

in psychiatry we call his case grandiose delusions disorder , but some troll amusement in this thread can't hurt !

nemesis8u:
I don't consider it cartoon scenario perse

Humans r inherently foolish , they will do things which they r least expected to do

And to be fair , his idea is sort of original , it's kind of refreshing . Admit it, u urself was little dazzled by the idea

And unrelated in a eerie kind of way the next war in certain parts of the world is going to be on water.

and you will poison the nile river with what ? 2 830 m³/s of water debit ? what quantity of poison you will need ? from where launch the poison ? how many thons of chemical products and industrial waste is discharged into this river every year ? and will you poison all countries in the way of egypt ? and how many days your poison will stay in the river before been rejected in the méditeranean sea ? will you poison also mediteranean sea ? and even if it is possible to poison a hudge river like the nile for three months continuously , what will you repercussion will you face after ? and how will you stop egyptian army with soudan and all countries harmed in the way to burn you with international approval? common even in cartoons its impossible such scenario , dont wast your time with trolls who think they can stop rafales air strikes with ak47 and men balls

nemesis8u:
Poisoning any water bodies like river is considered a crime against humanity.

Using chemical / biological weapons to do the same will definitely attract a couple of nukes in the ass of whoever attempts to do so .

dont waste your time with this cartoon scenario , nemesis

its usual troll season on this thread ...

Fineman87:
Egyptian army is far ahead in "showing weapons", they are not and have never been an "intimidating country". They havd lost too many wars in history.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Egypt

The defeat rate is shocking.

man , you have shown that you have zero military knowledge , continue your fantasy, and classified secret information of hidden weapons and even make your own ranking of the armies according to the size of the men balls ( ranking off men balls , what a funny hobby )

just dont quote me please , have no time for teen trolls

marvin906:
it seems the Algerian military is the only one that can stand toe to toe with Egypt..
if not for corruption we are suppose to be in this position

egyptian army still far ahead of algerian army , the egyptian army has been frighteningly modernizing in recent years with many billions contracts

egypt plays the role of protector of the Arab states of the Persian Gulf , and therefore receive billions in arms each year from them , also plays on peace with israel and also receive more than a billion each year in arms from the usa , support also hafter in libyan war ( i m sur not for free ) . add that egyptian army control a big party of egyptian economy (egyptian economy is not small) so they have a lot of ressources , and even last years russia and china also try to be close to them . so the gap will be larger in the future

and this crazy guys when all countries are fearing economic recession and talking about budgets limitation because of coronavirus , they want to refurbish 43 AH-64E helicopters, with an estimated price tag of $2.3 billion thats 53 millions dollars per helicopters for refurbishment . not new ones

source : https://www.defensenews.com/global/mideast-africa/2020/05/07/state-clears-apache-updates-for-egypt-excess-mraps-for-uae/

YAK 130 , ALgerian AF

AW-139 SAR [Search And Rescue]

The Brain is the Battlefield of the Future

In this video, Dr. James Giordano speaks to United States Military Academy cadets and faculty about the human brain and the future of war. Giordano is Chief of the Neuroethics Studies Program and Scholar-in-Residence in the Pellegrino Center for Clinical Bioethics at Georgetown University. Recent history has seen substantial advancements in neuroscience and neurotechnology, Giordano explains. These advancements are almost certain to impact the wars are fought in the future. In many ways, the brain might even become part of the battlespace.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uOB_qyPU0w

full video here : https://mwi.usma.edu/mwi-video-brain-battlefield-future-dr-james-giordano/

UH-60M Black Hawk , Tunisian AF

The Museum of the People's Liberation Army, set up by Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic (SADR) shows weapons seized to Royal Moroccan Army during the war (1976 - 1991).

Polaris MRZR X , tunisia

mig 29 SMT , before Algeria returns them to russia in 2008 because of "inferior quality" of certain components

nice nemesis , it's always a pleasure to get an eyeful of on this thread ,

the biggest military base in africa . Mohamed Naguib Military Base , egyptian army


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzEn93rfRqc

iluyshin 76 , algerian af

tunisian GFS

M113A1/A2 morocco

kabe1:
Something special this morning.

Like a restaurant owner, I am taking orders

What sort of Nigerian or African military photo do you want to see?

Make your order and I will get the picture for you or I will get the closest thing to the picture requested.



I'll get that.

chef ! i want pics of all military rank in nigerian army from simple recruit to the higher rank .

pic , algerian military ranks

Fineman87:
Haha, and the only way the Nigerian navy would get anti-submarine squids is to buy ships with that capability. Lol . We had squids but never bought it with a ship. We have many stand alone weapon systems acquired independently of ships.

It took US 5years to upgrade the ships, lol. Biafra built bombs, rockets, refined crude oil, developed a currency, etc in 3years. So we can rightly say Biafra achieved more than US in 5years. But that is wrong comparison. The real question is- how urgent was the upgrade done by the US. America has over hundred ships and shipyards are always busy. So your comparison is inappropriate.
Nations build new ships in 3years. So your 5yrs upgrade is very untenable.

I stand by my position- the Nig navy, in adverse conditions, can fit missiles on its ships and rush to fight. War is not luxury. Am not talking of peacetime. I mean, when under threats of fire.

why dont you try to put on your comments more facts and less empty words and wishes ?

the fact is now days nigerian navy dont have any SSM capacity ,
the fact is even when they bought in 2012-2013 the P18N OPV NNS Centenary, unity , they choose a downgraded version for 42 millions dollars each , the benguladesh navy bought the same year , versions of the same ship, the BNS Shadhinota with C802 SSM , FL-3000N air defense system. lack of money , lack of will ?

the fact is that nigeria as a big power country in africa is very late in military sector and if nigerian navy needed SSM urgently as you say , that mean a big fish is attacking you , and that mean that your ships will be sunk in less than a week at max with zero resistance , they will not let you 3 years to develop artisanal bombs like your exemple of biafran (ps: your artisanal bombs its nothing special even small terrorist groups done it ) .

Si vis pacem, para bellum

Fineman87:
Sorry Wiki is not a reliable source. NNS Thunder or one sister ships was upgraded with Harpoon missiles. They were long range patrol cutters of a Super Power and were sufficiently armed.

lets don't mix wishes and facts


it took USA 4 years to upgrade the USCGC Mellon (WHEC-717) a Hamilton-class high endurance cutter same like NNS thunder from 1985 to 1989 during cold war with soviets, and one more year to finish fire tests . and it was the only Hamilton-class who get the harpoon . the program of upgrade of the others was scrapped in 1992 and they even the antisubmarine warfare capabilities of the cutters was removed after the end of cold war . the mighty US industry took 5 years to upgrade it , and you are telling me that nigerian shipyard will do the same in hours only ?

here some logic questions , try to think just a little about :

- do you have even Harpoon SSM missiles ?
- do you think USA will sell you Harpoons ?
- buying chinese , russian missiles ? will they sell you ? will they upgrade them in nigeria or in there shipyards ? do you think its easy to adapt -Chinese , or russian systems on American ships?
- will the americans even let you make modifications on their ships? with Chinese or Russian experts? the thunder was sold to nigeria under the excess defense article policy so there is end-use restrictions for them .

so lets be realistic , the only way for nigerian navy to get SSM its to buy new ships with this capacity or major upgrade of the P18N OPV's with C802 ssm like benguladesh version , in china , and it will take many months maybe a year or two , nigerian navy dont have SSM capacity now .

Fineman87:
NNS Thunder and Okpabana, when in US service, had missiles and CIWS. They were stripped down before being gifted to Nigeria.

What makes you think the Nigerian Navy cannot fit missiles on those ships? What of Centenary and Unity, they can all carry missiles at short notice. The navy has skilled radar and missile engineers to do the job within hours.

According to wiki. NNS Thunder (USCGC Chase WHEC-718) and NNS Okpabana (USCGC Gallatin WHEC-721 in US navy ) had only an Otobreda 76 mm and a Phalanx CIWS as armement , no missiles .

The P18N OPV ,NNS Centenary (F91), and NNS unity (F92) could be upgraded like the bengladesh version and eqquipped with C-802A anti-ship missiles but it will take months and only done in china , its not only putting missiles , you need to install all an optronic and radar tracking , fire control systems , live fire tests ect ....

[Kalâat Beni Abbes] LPD , algerian navy

sukhoi 30 algerian AF

in 1988

Israel Wanted to Bomb Algeria - MiG-25 Foxbats and a Well Prepared Air Defence Network Prevented It

During the 1980s the power of the Israeli Defence Force was at its height. The Arab Nationalist Bloc had been shattered by the defection of Egypt to the Western Bloc, and Egypt’s cutting of defence ties with the Soviet Union and ceasing of investment in high end military capabilities eliminated it as a major military competitor. Libya and Iraq, the other two major Arab military powers which had fought in the Yom Kippur War alongside Egypt, were increasingly preoccupied with wars against neighbouring states - Chad and Iran respectively - which again strengthened the Israeli position. Having proven itself a capable military power, and benefitting from powerful lobbies in the U.S itself, Israel had become a leading client for high end American weapons systems - and was the third country in the world only after Iran and the U.S. itself to receive fourth generation fighter jets. Egypt’s provision of many of the latest Soviet weapons systems to the United States for testing meanwhile allowed the Western Bloc to study potential rivals these combat platforms could face, and thus seriously undermined the air defence capabilities of states such as Syria and Iraq which relied on these systems.


The F-15 Eagle, a high end heavyweight air superiority fighter, was Israel’s first fourth generation combat jet, and after spearheading an attack on Syrian air defences in 1982 and winning and overwhelming victory the high endurance fighters would be tasked with neutralising targets much further away from Israel itself. Israel’s longstanding political adversary the Palestinian Liberation Organisation (PLO) had relocated its facilities to Northwest Africa, and was attempting to organise anti Israeli activities from there where it would supposedly be immune to possible attacks. The PLO had sought to hold a major congress in 1988, in which it would declare the future of the ‘Palestinian state’ it sought to form, but was warned that such a meeting would come under Israeli attack. As one anonymous Tunisian military source noted that “Initially, the PLO wanted to hold this congress in Baghdad," but due to Iraq's war with Iran, North Africa was considered safer. "However, the Palestinians received a warning that Israel would attack, no matter where the congress took place. Therefore, they picked Algiers. This was considered a safer place.” With Algeria selected to house the congress and accepting to do so, the Israeli Air Force would have to tackle one of the most capable, best armed and best trained Arab militaries - and to do so further from it’s own airfields than it had ever been forced to operate before.

The PLO Congress was held at the Club des Pins Hotel around 20km west of Algiers , and the Algerian Military went to considerable lengths to protect the site from the expected Israeli strike. A no-fly zone within circle of 20 kilometers was established around Club des Pins which was enforced by 2K12 KuB mobile air defence systems - a predecessor to the modern BuK-M2 and BuK-M3 systems. Four combat jets were constantly patrolling the site - at low altitude two MiG-21 fighters and at high altitude two MiG-25 Foxbat interceptors. Additional MiG-25s were kept constantly on alert at their airbases. The MiG-25 was the most capable Soviet combat jet offered for export at the time, and was the fastest combat aircraft in the world. The aircraft were heavier than the F-15s, could fly higher and carried longer ranged missiles. Their R-40 missiles had over five times the payload as the F-15’s AIM-7 Sparrow which made them extremely difficult to evade, although the F-15s did benefit from superior manoeuvrability and climb rates and a more powerful sensor suite. Algeria was the first export client in the world for the MiG-25, and the aircraft was the only one capable of seriously challenging the F-15’s control of the skies. Previous Syrian attempts to engage F-15s with much lighter MiG-23 and MiG-21 jets, which lacked comparable sensors or flight performances and did not deploy any similarly long ranged missiles, had ended in an overwhelming defeat.

On November 10th 1988 a formation of F-15s was detected by Algeria’s air defence network approaching its airspace at medium altitude. More MiG-25s were scrambled to reinforce those already on patrol, but were not vectored to intercept the Israeli jets which were still far too far away. The Algerian interceptors were instead ordered to climb, and take a position in front of incoming fighters - where they would be able to take advantage of their higher altitude ceilings to launch missile attacks. More and more Algerian radar stations were activated and began tracking the approaching Israeli formation. The Israeli F-15s, likely detecting both the presence of a considerable number of Foxbats and multiple radar installations targeting them, followed a radial course and turned back. F-15s taking part in a strike mission against such faraway targets were forced to operate at the limits of their endurance - meaning carrying bulky external fuel tanks which limited manoeuvrability and deploying a minimal payload of air to air missiles. The Eagles were thus in poor shape to take on a heavily armed contingent of much faster and more heavily armed Algerian interceptors. Israel’s limited experience against the Algerian Army in the Yom Kippur War, where they had proven considerable more capable on the ground than their Egyptian or Syrian counterparts, had left a lasting impression which could have contributed to its Air Force’s adoption of a far more cautious stance.

source : https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/israel-wanted-to-bomb-algeria-mig-25-foxbats-and-a-well-prepared-air-defence-network-prevented-it

algerian army exercise yesterday

start from 00:35 . mi 28 , grad MRLS , T90


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYDdphFR3vs

T 90 ,

kikuyu1:
This is western media but what we know of Arab forces strongly suggests its true.


[url][https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/01/31/the-u-s-has-wasted-billions-of-dollars-on-failed-arab-armies/url]

I read the whole article and can only say WHAT THE ACTUAL FCVK!?

Is this true s400?

first arab armies , arabs countries are not the same , each country each army have its specificity . so we can't talk about a arab armies , add that the author is talking about egyptian army only .

and i even dont know algerian air force tactics , so what can i say about egyptian air force bombing tactics with there F16's but its funny this story of two planes to approach nearly simultaneously from either side of a target, on a collision course to drop bombs and avoid collision last second , why doing this to bomb a target ?? with sukhoi 7 in 60's i could believe this shit hardly but seriously with F16 and rafales ??


the author " Kenneth M. Pollack " is jewish and a member of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee lobby , and here all his article on your source : https://foreignpolicy.com/author/kenneth-m-pollack/

- The Coronavirus Won’t Kill the Islamic Republic APRIL 2, 2020
- Trump Is Giving Iran More Than It Ever Dreamed of , SEPTEMBER 26, 2019
- The U.S. Has Wasted Billions of Dollars on Failed Arab Armies JANUARY 31, 2019
- Fear and Loathing in Saudi Arabia JANUARY 7, 2016
- The Syrian Spillover AUGUST 10, 2012
- America’s Second Chance and the Arab Spring DECEMBER 5, 2011

so its only a zionist propaganda bullshit . he just wanted to sell his book .

kikuyu1:
Hahaha!? O/T, a friend of mine swears this is true:

Even on most private charters its a huge problem.

If so I'm a customer for life just for the joy of a peaceful smoke while airborne ! How have they ignored the hysterical demands of the WHO and other loud mouth gays all these years!?

For air algerie . smoking is forbeeden on air algerie domestic flights from 1997 and since 2002 for international flights and even having an electronic cigarette or a lighter on checked baggage is forbeeden .

Whats curious the Samsung"Galaxy note 7" is also forbeeden in the checked baggage :

In algerian aeroports also there is only a place reserved to smoke .

smoking is prohibited even in public places and public transport in algeria .

And i just checked its the same for royal air morocco . no smoking

gallivant:
Oil and gas has not made any African country developed.

you just need a national compagny that control all your oil gas industry and ressouce , not letting foreigners compagnies take most of the wealth.

why nigeria havnt nationalized this compagnies ? look at Sonatrach , the algerian national oil and gas compagny , the first compagny in africa in terms of revenue . algeria nationalized its oil industry in 1971 (9 years after independency) after fighting with foreigners compagnies that was controlling algerian oil gas industry .

if nigerian gouvern do the same , foreign compagnies and countries will put a lot of pressure and threats . but after some years the revenues and budgets will rise a lot . from current very low 23 Billions dollars to more than 100 Billions

kabe1:
GlobalEye surveillance aircraft.

This would be a very important system for the Nigerian Air Force. Although we currently have the ATR-70 which is currently undergoing deep upgrades in Germany and the King Air ISR, I think this system would give us more of an edge in surveillance.

i think the nigerian air force have a lot of other priority before thinking of getting an AWACS !

Obalufon:
what do we have here are you telling me berbers are not mixed ...berbers are mixed Mr man.. algerian are the worse mixed

every time you're cornered with source and evidence you jump and invent new thing . there is a lot of serious DNA studies of maghreb populations that was done and they are easy to find on google , i dont have have the patience to continue playing around , There are none so blind as those who will not see .

so last post for me in this thread , for this yoruba origin thread here a source from a serious DNA study from national geographic Geno 2.0 project , : https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations-next-gen/


you can see that for youruba, they have only 3% DNA from north african berbers but are mostly western central africans 89%

have a nice day.

Obalufon:
you are a monkey just as you white teacher called you .. i'm not berber but it would be nice to hear from the horse's mouth

, look for the last time , your touareg , blue man . live mostly in Niger (more than 2 millions ) 9% of its population , mali (550.000 ) 3% of its population , burkina .....

in maghreb they are very few around 2000 in tunisia 0.018% of the population , less in moroco , and around 70.000 in algeria 0.17% of the population , they live in the extrem south of algeria , nothing to do with berbers historic territory ,north african ancestrors , or aborigene .

so you have berbers 99,83% of the population for the case of algeria , that ramses and i , are talking about ! and the touaregs 0.17% of the population , from berbers migration to the south of sahara and mix with sub saharians population . south sahara was never part of algerian historic kingdoms , only with french colonization , the sahara was added to algerian territory , its common knowledge


check this interesting video of africcan kingdoms and evolution in the history it will help you to understand ,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzKejJIwieE

pic 1 ; touareg region
pic 2 : numidia and maghreb aborigene