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oldies ... the Mil Mi-6 heavy lift helicopter the old brother of the mi-26

Kabe2:
@S400 , what are your thoughts on the above. I will like to pick your brain.

libyans both camps have sold there country to foreigners , the two camps offer the futur management of oil and gaz in libya to the societies of the countries which would help them to control the country

Hafter on his side has the United Arab Emirates, Egypt, Saudi Arabia and now Russia . with russian's Wagner mercenary private military company

Government of National Accord (GNA) has with him turkey , qatar , they are linked to the Muslim Brotherhood ideology , thats why egypt and golf countries are against them .

Turkish are saying that russia sent about 6 mig 29 and two sukhoi 24 with russian contractors pilots , Turkey are deploying air defense systems near misrata (MIM-23 Hawk spotted on satelitte ) ,

the Egyptian president SISI , threatened to intervene militarily in libya against the GNA.

Algeria changed its constitution which prohibited its army from carrying out operations beyond its borders surely because of the situation in Libya, to respond to any kind of agression towards its territory or airspace .

so it's going to be a big mess these next months .

kilo 636M sub , Kalaat Beni Hammed Landing Ship tank , and meko A200 , algerian navy

midget pilot

first helmet is the Zsh-7 , used for mig 29 and sukhoi 30

the second is used for Aero L-39

Super Lynx Mk-130 [Rescue] algeria

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. the reality

The burka is from wahabism and traditionnal clothes before islam in some aeras , its not from the true islam , during mohamed era , his wifes wear only hijabs , the burka fashion came later from wahabism and extremists .

The hijab

soumam school ship , algerian navy

just returned this days from an upgrade in china

Ximenez:
So you are saying those excerpts are really from the Quran. Well, I'm not here today to compare both religions. But it's clear now where Boko Haram have gotten their mission from.

well if you are serious in your question , not just trolling , i have verified on a quran book, yes the sentences exist , some of the sentences you shared are not innocently modified a little in the meaning , the number 11 with boaling water , melting skin bellies describe hell punishments ,

but i shared some of the bible exemples to point something , that the sentences you shared on the pic are out of their context , the versets are talking about some historic fights between mohamed army ( fidels) and mekka army ( infidels) and discibes some specific events and figths . (like bible could tell the story of david and goliath or describe a specific war that happened between fidels christians and infidels who fight them ) . but there is some sentences in bible that even of their context are too cruel

so yeah some stupid criminals as boko haram or other terrorists can take this sentences out of their context and use them to justify their crimes . and for facts most terrorist victims are muslims them self ( irak, afghanistan, libya, syria, algerian in 90's ect...)

for my self , the three religions books are copies in their principle and are too violent and backward

[quote author=Ximenez post=89880659][/quote]"Killing and destruction are referenced slightly more often in the New Testament (2.8%) than in the Quran (2.1%), but the Old Testament clearly lead more than twice that of the Quran in mentions of destruction and killing (5.3%)."

(Samuel 15 : 3) [/b] : Now go and strike Amalek and devote to destruction all that they have. Do not spare them, but kill both man and woman, child and infant, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’”

(Psalm 137:9) : “Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.”

(Matthew 10:34) Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

(Jeremiah 48:10) “A curse on anyone who is lax in doing the Lord’s work , A curse on anyone who keeps their sword from bloodshed!

(Deutéronome 20:16-18) But in the cities of these peoples that the Lord your God is giving you for an inheritance, you shall save alive nothing that breathes, but you shall devote them to complete destruction

(Joshua 6) Then they devoted all in the city to destruction, both men and women, young and old, oxen, sheep, and donkeys, with the edge of the sword.

(Romans 1:27) “In the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the death penalty for their error.”

(1 Timothy 2:12) : I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.”

(Ephesians 5:22): “Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.”

(1 Peter 2:18) : “Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.”

and there is a loooot moooore from holy bible .

and for hijab here from the bible also (Corinthiens 11:6) For if a woman is not veiled, let her also be shorn: but if it is a shame to a woman to be shorn or shaven, let her be veiled.


so the two religions book are just shit

in another hand a festival in algeria for exemple


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LfuZwsK50Y

or the happy cover in fifferent town in algeria


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK7iUVBLzf4


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwDSslZDsjQ

GabrielYulaw:
My apologies, but you don't appear to understand how weapon and aircraft acquisition works. Say I went and bought a hundred F-22s, that would be very nice, right?

However, not all of the aircraft can be available for missions at all times. Aircraft availability is never 100% and varies widely. So, if I want the greatest possible aircraft to be available for missions, one way to do that is to buy as many as possible.
So, buying a hundred F-22s and supposing they have a 70% availability rate means around 70 will be available at any time. Buying only 50 of those planes and with their availability rate means less than 40 available at any one time.

That sucks. And that's why I can never be a fan of the NA buying weaponry in trickles from every country on the globe, when it should be buying in quantity.

You are also right- buying hardware does not make you powerful. You need to know how to use it to be powerful.

That is the main reason the Arab countries have never been able to defeat Israel, because Israelis train harder than anyone else and value competency, while the Arabs value nepotism, corruption and loyalty to the regime above everything else.

Give the Arabs an F-22 and give Israel biplanes from World War 1 and they will still win, because they are superbly innovative and competent. I don't like them, but I do respect them.

That's also why little Chad was able to beat Ghaddafi silly during the Chadian-Libyan war. And capture huge quantities of materiel.

As for ISIS in Iraq, the Iraqi army at that time was corrupt and inept to the limit. There were more than a few ghost soldiers, added so money could be made.

The Iraqi soldiers lacked the will to fight and were very poorly led. They abandoned perfectly good M1 Abrams tanks in the face of ISIS advances, even though ISIS lacked any notable anti-tank weaponry bigger than RPG 7s. They just ran because they didn't want to fight at all and it wasn't what they signed up for.

need to add some details here :

- for mighty israel superbly trained and competent. that lost miserably against small hezbollah group in lebanon 2006 , you forget Mighty USA in the equation , israelian army is built to resist a war few weeks until USA hudge military bridge and help come . without US mother they cant sustein a long war , egyptian army alone will erase them in one month or two . ( that's my own opinion about this )


- For tchad libyan war , same , some poeple forget , that france was dierectly involved , that libyan army was going to take even ndjamenna and south tchad with rebels but french army launched operation Tacaud ( 18 french military died, two planes lost ) , that stopped libyan army 430 km before ndjamenna , than Manta operation ( with 8 Jaguars, 2 C-135F, 7 Mirage F1C, 2 Breguet Atlantic , 26 C-160 Transall , 3 DC-8 and 30 hélicopters between (SA 341/342 Gazelle et SA330 Puma). Crotale air defense systems SNERI and Spartiate radars thousand soldiers , than last hudge epervier operation that stopped libyan at the 16th parallel and helped tchadian to reverse the situation ( french lost 158 soldiers in tchad) , and there is a lot of other small french operation to protect tchad , even US intelligence services were directly involved and cooperated with french .

here a very intersting site in french : detailing all this war and the French operations during the war http://aerohisto..com/2013/12/de-manta-epervier-operations-aeriennes.html

and all french miliary bases around the region are meant for this kind of operations , nigerian army is surrounded with french bases , as all african armies in the region should be aware of this danger

- and for irak it was an internal religious civil war , the shiit and sunits iraki factions got into a bloody war , realy difficult to stop an armed uprising of hudge part of its population.

Kabe2:
Morocco's contract includes 30 million for ammunition. This means they would get 37 units like Indonesia.

Indonesian 170 milions contract include ammunition too , but let wait official contract

Kabe2:
How many are they getting, and February is long gone.

it was supposed to be officialy annonced during french president visit to morocco on february , and then covid 19 arrived .

indonesia got 37 ceasar for 170 millions , so with 200 millions contract , morocco could receive around 42 to 50 systems , and same for other past casear contracts with saudi , danish , indonisian , it will take 2 or 3 years for delivry

F16 block 52+ morocco

Nexter Caesar self-propelled guns for Moroccan army

These are two fine contracts for French arms manufacturers. According to concordant sources, Nexter recently signed a 200 million euro contract for the sale of Caesar truck artillery systems (170 million) and its ammunition (30 million) . In addition, according to our information, the missile MBDA sold in 2019 for 200 million euros of VL-Mica land missiles . Contracts that could be announced during Emmanuel Macron's visit to Morocco on February 12 and 13..

source in french : https://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/industrie/aeronautique-defense/armement-le-maroc-achete-un-peu-de-made-in-france-mais-enormement-de-made-in-usa-837558.html

Morocco secures loan to buy weapons from MBDA ; likely to be for VL MICA VL Short range air defense missile system
May 22, 2020

Morocco has announced that it secured a $209 million loan from BNP Paribas that will be used to pay for weapons made by MBDA.
The weapons are likely to be the VL MICA air defense missile system. La Tribune had reported earlier this year that the country intends to buy four sets of the system for approximately the same amount of money.

https://alert5.com/2020/05/22/morocco-secures-loan-to-buy-weapons-from-mbda-likely-to-be-for-vl-mica/#more-81935

Toju200:
beautiful..
I thought Algeria already operates The MI171helicopters with President-s DRICM never new it was only Egypt.
Until now

nope the mi171sh had only a FLIR system from Thomson CSF (pic1) , we heard about an upgrade of 42 mi171sh in 2018 , and thats first that was delivred .

off course president-S system is operational on algerian mi26 and mi 28NE

Algerian AF received its 1st upgraded Mi-171 SH helicopters from russia

the helicopter deeply modernised by integrating president-s DRICM system , ataka lazer guided ATGM ,LCD flat panel displays and GEO-ONV1-01M new night vision goggles for crew

joshingjosh:
Please who can give me the exact date or something close to when NAF Panthers was created

according to this NAF interesting documentary . NIGERIAN AIR FORCE regiment was etablished in 1978 (02:05 on the video) , , for NAF special forces it was etablished in 2015 ( 07:08 on the video)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gosthl6HKNo


the list of the NAF SF units are listed from 05:57 to 06:50 on the video

Hadampson:
@Algerian2

I'm anticipating the pictures of Annaba, Jijel and Djelfa

If you have pictures of the emboldened, please share... Merci d'avance

Annaba, Jijel and Djelfa are small towns more known for their nature , landscapes but i will try to share small towns too

Annaba city

algiers great mosque

nemesis8u:
The irony is that the British army hanged/shot hundreds of their soldiers on charges of cowardice which were actually cases of shell shock .

Decades later the British army apologized and asked for forgiveness . Later on the use of word ' shell shock ' was banned to hide their guilt .

If the guy was in a firefight , than matters r different

But since the guy was in a ied explosion therefore things r not same.

No sane soldier will rant against his coas unless he lost it completely . The last thing anyone can accuse him is of being a coward.

A human mind is fragile, like flour , mould it , twist it on ur whims

Just to put into context

Do you know how sound played on a unwilling victim can render the victim more pliable to brainwashing or if one wants render the victim completely mad within one hour or so .

Won't share details for obvious reasons but my intent is to show how fragile a human mind is and hence stress not to judge based on emotions as in this case there is enough circumstantial evidence to prove otherwise. Cases of shell shock r very common in a warzone.

You said
" information warfare is very important against guerrillas, terrorists and even in classic wars "

I agree
But let me play the devil's advocate here

We are willing to create space for foolish citizens who r dumb and idiotic enough to fall prey to information warfare from terrorists no less but we r not willing to provide the necessary space to soldiers who r victims of war, just because we r not aware of the extreme psychological damage , forget about physical injuries that a unfortunate soldier encounters during his duties. Damage to the mind is worse than damge to the body . Just because we can't see it doesn't mean everything's ok .


Note : I agree with u regarding the OPSEC part , hence I removed that portion from ur quote.

From the medical view , i cant explain it correctly in english specially for psychiatry , but it has nothing to do with shell shock , ( shell shock symptoms to simplify it's more an mutic attitude and position (sometimes the soldiers will tell you he is deaf or dumb, or blind), sometimes you will find him folded in half or in a squatting position with inability to get up , sometimes totally paralyzed or hemiplegic or paraplegic; even when the clinical examination showed no lesion capable of explaining these attitudes. So nothing to do with what this soldiers did . its even the opposite

Also if you suspect an acute stress disorder to simplify you will find a subjective sense of numbing, detachment, or absence of emotional responsiveness . same for the Posttraumatic stress disorder , the main caracteritics of this two disorders is that the patient systematically avoids any event or discussion leading to his emotions or the subject. There is also in both case and exageration of danger feeling . the patient fell himself always in danger unsecure ,


You will not take your phone when terrorists are maybe not far , connect to your instagram , facebook and make a video to your followers to talk about what happened and share your feelings easily + i'm not sur if the operation area have good 4G network to upload live video but if its found that he uploaded the video later when returning to the basment or a town , his case will be worst .

And even if we suspect a traumatic neurosis the elements do not match. but I am not a psychiatrist and even psychiatrists can't make an accurate diagnosis from a short video . but from my little experience with psychiatric cases of soldiers . Playing the psychiatric card will be difficult for him .


For the military view , first thing you learn unconsciously during formation or service is whatever the shit and hardness of the training or the situation, you do not complain to people outside , on social media and especially not to your family. when your family calls you , even if its like hell for you , you say mam everything is fine . what will his poor mother and family feel when they see his video ? , without talking about military reserve obligation and the fact he should report his problems to his hierarchy not on social media's , that there is military doctors in operational units , psychiatrists in military health system that i'm sure have a lot of cases with this war , so for me this cry baby is a shame for his military brothers . feeling fear is normal , even going hysteric maybe , running for his life it happen, but nothing can justify sharing a video on social media's and say what he said .

donnie:
You always have a whitewashed version of everything to give. From fake white Egyptian images to white Moors.
You so much hate your black ancestry. By the way Leo Scipio Africanus is his name, so what? He was a Roman General, not African.
Africa is a black continent...deal with it.

keep thinking as you like , anything that can make you sleep well my child , you just copy past blackwashed funny conspirency theories from your village marabout stories , trying to stole glory and history of others civilisations and poeple , you even talk about things you dont know , mixing Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus with leo africanus ( more than 1600 years gap between them) , and even telling jokes that scipio gave his name to the continent , go hide your mediocrity ! my ancestrors the berbers are the first called africcans since antiquity , my ancestrors gave the name africa to the continent , thats only facts , and berbers since antiquity to now days are caucasoid with white skin that facts , even if racist like you dont like it . ,


As for algerian skin color , any one can check on google " algerian protest " or " hirak" in local language and you will find pics , videos of thousand of them during last protest and you can see there skins . these are aborigene berbers skin . and if you want historic berbers region presence you can check " kabyle " on google . and see for yourself

For poeple interesting about algeria : here my thread about it : https://www.nairaland.com/4155711/welcome-algeria-pics .

You will see some true vestiges and history that there is also some stupids that served me the same racist soup there . anada that there black skin algerians too and there origine regions . (from berbers migration from their north teritory to south sahara and mixing with sub saharian populations )


last comment for me , keep swimining in you fantasy history . bye

eplanning:
LOL @ white Africans

whats funny is the amount of ignorance here , the first people called with the name africcans during antiquity are the berbers in north algeria, tunisia and a part of libya now days ( red on the map pic 1) , the name africa and africcans was generalized to the rest of the continent many centuries after , so yes , for your information the first affricans are the berbers ( causaoid with white skin)

the name "Africa" comes from the Berber word "afer" or "ifri" that designated a tribe , not like the joke that a read above of the roman general Leo Africanus wich is Scipio Africanus not leo , leo Africanus is another man , diplomat and author , he was a berber who lived in andalous (spain now) in 1500's . so the general Scipio Africanus earned him the agnomen Africanus. after wining the African campaign againt hannibal and carthage , not the opposite same as his brother Scipio Asiaticus Lucius Cornelius Scipio Asiaticus who also earned him the agnomen Asiaticus after the Battle of Magnesia.